Second pregnant 'man' ? Wtf?

On January 27 2010 06:46 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote:
Oh god who's gonna delivering the baby

On January 27 2010 06:52 Corrupt wrote:
Schwarzenegger was the first pregnant man.. right?

On January 27 2010 06:53 Neos wrote:

I'm wondering how it's gonna get delivered.

On January 27 2010 06:54 Stratos.FEAR wrote:


lawl i was just thinking of that movie haha...can't remember the name tho

On January 27 2010 07:27 DorF wrote:
One question and one question only , how the fuck can this be ok while other things are not such as stemcells or gay marriage o_O

On January 27 2010 07:36 meeple wrote:
Kinda fucked up... but I've seen worse things.

On January 27 2010 07:39 freelander wrote:


like the MSL finals lol

On January 27 2010 07:34 n3m0 wrote:
Abomination

No pregnant person should be denied healthcare just because they are a man.’

On January 27 2010 07:33 D10 wrote:
Because its done on a personal level where people cant interfere that much.

Edit: dont you think people would ban homosexuality as a whole if they could ?

On January 27 2010 07:33 D10 wrote:
Because its done on a personal level where people cant interfere that much.

Edit: dont you think people would ban homosexuality as a whole if they could ?

On January 27 2010 08:05 redtooth wrote:
two words: breast feeding
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On January 27 2010 08:29 banana wrote:


omg :< why bring up this fact, I was disturbed by the picture, but now this image crawling in my head *head explodes*

On January 27 2010 08:40 meeple wrote:



Aha... this came to me immediately

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkcucXIuVI

On January 27 2010 06:44 TeH_Mentalist wrote:
Just like shemales....disgusting. wow lesbians gay pregnant. I don't think there can be anything else they haven't yet done

On January 27 2010 06:21 valaki wrote:


I don't really know what to say....Thoughts?

On January 27 2010 08:51 fusionsdf wrote:


whoa whoa whoa

shemales are NOT disgusting

On January 27 2010 07:05 ViruX wrote:
She's not a man argh. Every single one of her cells in her body lack a Y chromosome.

On January 27 2010 08:46 redtooth wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +meeple once again proves he doesn't read the thread before posting.

On January 27 2010 09:08 StarsPride wrote:
i hope they rrealize society wont accept them, and i hope the law puts some bans on shit like this... And if u disagree with me.
Imagine dating them and finding out later on.
I dont know about u guys but i have enough worries going on, i don't want the possibility being that my girlfriend was actually a man. that is just..
o god
I rest my argument

On January 27 2010 09:08 StarsPride wrote:
i hope they rrealize society wont accept them, and i hope the law puts some bans on shit like this... And if u disagree with me.
Imagine dating them and finding out later on.
I dont know about u guys but i have enough worries going on, i don't want the possibility being that my girlfriend was actually a man. that is just..
o god
I rest my argument

On January 27 2010 08:02 Zoler wrote:
One thing I do find wierd tho is that first they were lesbians but now they're like gay men? what is this I dont even....

On January 27 2010 09:08 StarsPride wrote:
i hope they rrealize society wont accept them, and i hope the law puts some bans on shit like this... And if u disagree with me.
Imagine dating them and finding out later on.
I dont know about u guys but i have enough worries going on, i don't want the possibility being that my girlfriend was actually a man. that is just..
o god
I rest my argument

On January 27 2010 09:21 D10 wrote:


Thats the most stupid thing ive ever read, and ive read some pretty stupid shit!

If the only reason you date your girlfriend is beceause she has a pussy just ask every woman you meet if shes not a shemale and you wont have problems.

If I dated a girl and found out later shes a shemale I wouldnt care, firstly because I really dont care, and secondly because we should respects people choices and differences.

A relationship is not about a dick meeting a pussy, its about 2 persons connecting into an intimate level.

On January 27 2010 09:21 D10 wrote:


Thats the most stupid thing ive ever read, and ive read some pretty stupid shit!

If the only reason you date your girlfriend is beceause she has a pussy just ask every woman you meet if shes not a shemale and you wont have problems.

If I dated a girl and found out later shes a shemale I wouldnt care, firstly because I really dont care, and secondly because we should respects people choices and differences.

A relationship is not about a dick meeting a pussy, its about 2 persons connecting into an intimate level.

On January 27 2010 09:34 ilj.psa wrote:

wtf?trust me 99% of males would.

On January 27 2010 09:36 BlackJack wrote:


He's from Brazil. Finding out your date has a penis is like a standard 3rd date there. jk

On January 27 2010 09:37 D10 wrote:


Altho its a joke, its more common than you imagine!

On January 27 2010 09:39 BlackJack wrote:
I'm certain you are speaking from experience

On January 27 2010 09:37 D10 wrote:


Altho its a joke, its more common than you imagine!

On January 27 2010 09:43 seppolevne wrote:
How the fuck are people offended/grossed out by this? Grow up, people aren't all exactly like you.

On January 27 2010 09:43 seppolevne wrote:
How the fuck are people offended/grossed out by this? Grow up, people aren't all exactly like you.

On January 27 2010 09:44 kaisr wrote:


Yeh, this is perfectly natural. Same with incest.

On January 27 2010 09:45 BabyRhino wrote:
what are the the possible complications to the child??? respecting their sexuality is one thing, i mean, gay marriage cool, transgender, whatever... but is this fair to the unborn child? if there are clear risks of giving a child under such circumstances, is it a responsible decision to have a child?

On January 27 2010 09:40 D10 wrote:


No more comments...

On January 27 2010 09:37 D10 wrote:


Altho its a joke, its more common than you imagine!

On January 27 2010 09:58 D10 wrote:


Hey, we are not going into horrible african genocide countries to stop people from being born with aids, lack of the most basic needs and etc...

What gives us right to tell someone who will be able to give their child education, shelter, food, and etc... that they cant have a child when so many people all around the world are having child sub human conditions subjecting them all kind of enviromental trauma.

On January 27 2010 09:30 Fearliss wrote:
This is sick.

Two girls change into guys so they can marry each other. Why not just stay girls then?

On January 27 2010 10:12 EvilSky wrote:
Typical women imo, what wont they do to get attention :o

On January 27 2010 10:06 ilj.psa wrote:

bringing an example of a child subject to horrible living conditions.won't make this case of a child in bads living conditions any better.you know?

On January 27 2010 07:34 nttea wrote:
i find it disturbing, but that's definitely my problem and not theirs. Good luck to them :p

On January 27 2010 06:40 Whiplash wrote:
So they were lesbians... and now they are gay.... and pregnant....

On January 27 2010 10:06 ilj.psa wrote:

bringing an example of a child subject to horrible living conditions.won't make this case of a child in bads living conditions any better.you know?

On January 27 2010 10:20 GogoKodo wrote:

To BabyRhino, what risks?
To ilj.psa what bad living conditions?

On January 27 2010 10:33 Mastermind wrote:
I feel sorry for the kid. His life is gonna be fucked up.

On January 27 2010 10:19 PanN wrote:


The asshole section is located on 4chan.

On January 27 2010 11:00 EvilSky wrote:

Oh yeah? What about the humorless cunt section? where is that ?

On January 27 2010 10:49 BabyRhino wrote:


my question exactly, is the kid going to be born like any other normal healthy baby? if there are sure complications that will come to this baby because of the circumstances under how its born, then my question is, is that responsible?

if the kid is going to be just as healthy as any other female born baby, then I guess they can do what they want. but fact is, despite normal health, the child will face hardship socially.

On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
so who is the real father, ie:sperm doner? of this child... or did i miss some abominable scientific breakthrough that allows 2 females that tries to pretend to be males, to have children like a normal family unit?

i have no issues with transgenders as i believe in freedom of choice, its their own life and body that they wish to desecrate if it is their choice then so be it. what i cannot stand is that these people claim with their twisted reasoning and logic to justify how their actions and choice are "normal" and should be "accepted" by the general populace. and how they abuse the term "ignorance" and "open-minded" is disgusting, were they not the people that were ignorant about their own sexual orientation? were they not the one's that cannot accept who they truly are? (unless if ur a hermaphrodite). there are lines in nature and humanity that u do not cross, u crossed it now u have accept the consequence of ur own free choice. they became an abomination of nature by choice, and they will rightfully be branded as such.

On January 27 2010 06:21 valaki wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1246153/Second-pregnant-man-Scott-Moore-birth-baby-boy-month.html

A pic (kinda disturbing):
(note : they were/are still WOMEN, just took hormones..lots of them)

+ Show Spoiler +

I don't really know what to say....Thoughts?

On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
so who is the real father, ie:sperm doner? of this child... or did i miss some abominable scientific breakthrough that allows 2 females that tries to pretend to be males, to have children like a normal family unit?

i have no issues with transgenders as i believe in freedom of choice, its their own life and body that they wish to desecrate if it is their choice then so be it. what i cannot stand is that these people claim with their twisted reasoning and logic to justify how their actions and choice are "normal" and should be "accepted" by the general populace. and how they abuse the term "ignorance" and "open-minded" is disgusting, were they not the people that were ignorant about their own sexual orientation? were they not the one's that cannot accept who they truly are? (unless if ur a hermaphrodite). there are lines in nature and humanity that u do not cross, u crossed it now u have accept the consequence of ur own free choice. they became an abomination of nature by choice, and they will rightfully be branded as such.

i respect the courage(or stupidity, it goes both ways) of these people to go through with their own choice in life, and it made them a happier person probably... this is not an adventure in some fairy tale after u go through loads of bullshit to achieve ur goals finally things will end in "happily ever after". they do not deserve any sympathy, but pity...

On January 27 2010 13:10 seppolevne wrote:

uhhh... Y chromosomes are useless. You take an X from a woman and another X from a woman and BAM! female baby.


So who someone truly is is based on whether they have a penis or a vagina? It has nothing to do with hormone levels that cause them to develop a female/male brain and identify as one in the other's body? What are these so-called "lines u do not cross" and who picks them? You? The Bible? The majority? Fuck that.

On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
i have no issues with transgenders as i believe in freedom of choice

On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
abominable

On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
twisted

On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
disgusting

On January 27 2010 12:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
an abomination of nature

On January 27 2010 13:39 armed_ wrote:

You cannot claim to believe in freedom of choice and then proceed to label those who choose differently from you as inhuman.

On January 27 2010 13:37 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote:



That's not how the reproductive system works....it's not as simple as X and Y....takes 23 pairs to make a cell not 2.

On January 27 2010 13:37 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote:



The question here is where did the sperm come from? We can't just merge 2 eggs and get a baby....and both of them have eggs only unless SOMEWHERE they obtained a set of testes to produce their own sperm, so then why dont u just adopt a baby?? It's defnitely not natural (IMO) for a man to have babies....but then again, nothing is natural about this topic

On January 27 2010 13:37 TwoSugarsAndACream wrote:



That's not how the reproductive system works....it's not as simple as X and Y....takes 23 pairs to make a cell not 2. The question here is where did the sperm come from? We can't just merge 2 eggs and get a baby....and both of them have eggs only unless SOMEWHERE they obtained a set of testes to produce their own sperm, so then why dont u just adopt a baby?? It's defnitely not natural (IMO) for a man to have babies....but then again, nothing is natural about this topic

On January 27 2010 13:59 randombum wrote:
How is she a "man" though? She was born a woman, still has woman sex organs, but she took hormones to look like a man. If anything, she's simply a very man looking woman.

On January 27 2010 16:28 Hanners wrote:
You know what?

Fuck all y'all.

Bunch of haters.

Those of you "worried about the kid" should consider why. Maybe because your hateful views are similar to most people's who are willing to be just as, if not more, vocal/active about it?

The problem is not with these people, their conditions, or their choices. If no one else in the world existed and it was just that family, they would be relieved of a lot of their hardship. No. It sucks to be them because of people like 90% of the responders in this thread. Bunch of bigots who insist that their reality is the only one and considers any challenge to what they know to be "true" (how fucking pretentious is that?) to be a threat and instead of looking within themselves to truly question and understand *why* they find it disturbing, they prefer to sling mud at that perceived threat.

I'm going to let you fucks in on a secret: YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.

You think you do and are so egotistical as to believe that you are "right" when in reality you don't have any first-hand knowledge or experience in most everything that you think you know. Your judgments are based on *nothing*.

Weak-ass cowards.

On January 27 2010 06:40 Whiplash wrote:
So they were lesbians... and now they are gay.... and pregnant....

lol!

On January 27 2010 16:40 JohnColtrane wrote:


so you think its wrong to worry about a kid who will most likely be picked on?

edit: all yall

On January 27 2010 13:59 randombum wrote:
How is she a "man" though? She was born a woman, still has woman sex organs, but she took hormones to look like a man. If anything, she's simply a very man looking woman.

On January 27 2010 16:49 JohnColtrane wrote:
somehow i wont believe that unless i see some figures

On January 27 2010 16:57 Hanners wrote:


I'm in the industry. Trans girls get paid more and their material sells better than "vanilla" porn on average (aside from well-established porn stars of course).

On January 27 2010 17:06 fight_or_flight wrote:

Probably because there is less competition for trans porn actors. There are more prerequisites to become one....

On January 27 2010 17:07 fight_or_flight wrote:
So do massive amounts of male hormones screw a baby up?

On January 27 2010 17:06 Suc wrote:

Because an intelligent argument always begins with insulting the other party. I'm going to let you in on a secret: it doesn't.

It doesn't matter whether you think that this kid should not be picked on at all or why it will be, what matters is that it is going to happen no matter what. Moreover, discrimination will probably occur during adulthood if others find out about said child's situation.

If you want to argue your point properly and have people take you seriously, you should probably state it a bit more clearly minus the insults.

Also, (just reading further down) I agree with with JohnColtrane, where are your statistics?

Moreover, discrimination will probably occur during adulthood if others find out about said child's situation.

On January 27 2010 17:06 Suc wrote:

Because an intelligent argument always begins with insulting the other party. I'm going to let you in on a secret: it doesn't.

It doesn't matter whether you think that this kid should not be picked on at all or why it will be, what matters is that it is going to happen no matter what. Moreover, discrimination will probably occur during adulthood if others find out about said child's situation.

If you want to argue your point properly and have people take you seriously, you should probably state it a bit more clearly minus the insults.

Also, (just reading further down) I agree with with JohnColtrane, where are your statistics?

On January 27 2010 17:44 JohnColtrane wrote:
hanners what do you do in the industry?

On the flip side, a male taking female hormones for even a short length of time will be made permanently sterile. Even if they stop for whatever reason, its too late and they will simply be incapable of producing viable sperm (or much sperm at all for that matter)

On January 27 2010 17:40 R0YAL wrote:
this kinda stuff is kind of disturbing :x

On January 27 2010 17:22 Hanners wrote:


"The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" -Audre Lorde

I will not bow down to a thread full of people who have been so disrespectful and plead for consideration.

Oppressors are not deserving of my respect. I am not trying to have an intelligent argument (mostly because that is not possible on the interwebz and is a complete fallacy to try) You do realize that you are asking that these people validate their existence to you, right? Do you have *any* idea how degrading, humiliating, and insulting that is?

Do you not see through your own words?


Do you not see what is wrong with this? How does it not enrage you that someone is destined to be subjected to prejudice, discrimination, and hate because of who and what they are? Does it not occur to you that maybe a perspective shift is what is required? Try on some compassion. I'm sure if you were in his position, you wouldn't want to be subjected to the aforementioned horridness of society. In fact, I'm sure you'd prefer that it wasn't even an issue worthy of attention or note at all.

Unfortunately, I do not have a statistics page set up for sales. I only go by what producers tell me.

On January 27 2010 18:40 Garnet wrote:
So the child isn't quite "theirs" because the sperm is donated by a male friend. I would say adoptation might not have been a bad choice. But what do I know.

On January 27 2010 18:37 JohnColtrane wrote:


he isnt commenting on whether or not he thinks discrimination should occur or not, he is just saying it most likely will.

i dont know, i see gender based on your physical status rather than what you believe yourself to be. of course, people can do whatever they want with their bodies but i cant say that i am personally thrilled about it

On January 27 2010 19:05 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
The lack of tolerance for other opinions amongst the ones here preaching tolerance is incredible and hilarious.

On January 27 2010 17:15 fusionsdf wrote:



no, since the male hormones are stopped before/during pregnancy. If they were to continue to take hormones before/during pregnancy, then probably, but one of the side effects of giving male hormones to females is the stopping of menstruation and obviously then no pregnancy is possible in that state.

I would be more worried about the ovaries entering some kind of atrophy, but I dont know if they would for sure. On the flip side, a male taking female hormones for even a short length of time will be made permanently sterile. Even if they stop for whatever reason, its too late and they will simply be incapable of producing viable sperm (or much sperm at all for that matter)

On January 27 2010 19:12 Hanners wrote:


...and he, like many, will stand apathetically by while this person is subjected to this adversity.

Your perspective is one based off of "I don't understand it so I do not validate it."

There seems to be this idea that people go through this because it is fun and exciting or that they are sexual perverts. Shit's not true. Transition is one of the most unpleasant and painful things that a person can experience. You risk losing everything (family, friends, job, etc.).

It is a choice. But for many the choice is either to live or to kill themselves. Unfortunately, fully half or more choose the latter option.

The American Medical Association recognizes transsexualism as a legitimate condition. The solution acknowledged is transition, therapy, hormones, and surgery. Regardless, most insurance companies still refuse to cover these treatments. Therapists and doctors require transitioners to live at least one (often *two*) year(s) in the role of the gender they are transitioning to regardless of their "passability" before surgery is authorized. This is a process put in place to ensure that the person transitioning can withstand the hate, discrimination, and prejudices of society. Many suicides, suicide attempts, assaults and murders occur during this time period.

If you make it past all that and if you manage to save up enough money (anywhere from $15k-$100k depending on how sloppy of a job you are willing to subject your body to) on your own either through sex work or, funnily enough, the IT industry (because most businesses discriminate), then you are given the letters of reference to go through with it. You are then subjected to several months (years even) of recovery.

After all this shit, you are still expected to disclose your history and status to whom it may concern and subject yourself to the same bigotry and hatefulness that you've been experiencing your whole life.

People don't understand this. They'd rather write transsexuals off as freaks and perverts. That they're "sick in the head." That they are "confused."

If only they knew how horrifying the experience is. Maybe they'd get a clue as to why "that tranny bitch is crazy!" They may be crazy, but they understand themselves better than most could possibly hope to. They appreciate life more than most are capable of. They have to fight for everything and nothing is given to them.



The difference is that the "opinions" being preached against are merely prejudice based off of insecurity and baseless hate.

People don't get ostracized from society from preferring red over blue or thinking mustard is better than ketchup.

Transsexuals get murdered for who they are so kindly, go fuck yourself.

On January 27 2010 19:42 JohnColtrane wrote:


who are you arguing against here? all the guy said was the kid would face trouble in the future. he didnt talk about why or if he should so why are you berating him for it...?

i think your personal bias regarding this topic is making you go on a bit of a crusade when the guy didnt say anything in that regards

You say they get shit for who they are - wrong. They get shit for changing how they were born.
I just think people are going way too far with this kinda attitude of messing around with nature.

On January 27 2010 20:08 Hanners wrote:


My "personal bias" and "crusade" is spreading awareness to people who obviously don't have the first clue and would prefer to belittle and dehumanize others that they don't, can't, and never will understand.

There's no argument here.

This is called "education" for anyone willing to read.

My "argument" isn't against any one person here. I'm not trying to convince any one person in particular.

I'm planting seeds.

Maybe someone will see these posts and consider it worth their time to learn more about what it is to be a transsexual and maybe their opinion will change toward something not so closed off. Maybe they will allow that these people's lives are just as valid as anyone else's and that they have done nothing to deserve the amount of adversity they have to endure every day. Maybe they'll refrain from participating in prejudicial "jokes" or public mockery. Hell, maybe even they'll be swayed so much as to disapprove of someone trashing a transsexual and may actually speak up about it. Because each person who at the very least accepts that transsexuals are people worth the same basic respect and courtesy as anyone else makes each of those transsexual's lives just that much more bearable.

Yes, I am personally biased. I know more than a couple of transsexual girls who have "finished" transition. They have gotten the surgeries and everything. They are terrified to leave their homes because they have been assaulted and raped after disclosing their history. This pisses me off to no end because they are kind and they are beautiful and they have endured so much just so that they can live the lives they should have had, but are still being denied.

The common negative attitude towards transsexuals perpetuates this. They deserve more.



I'm going to let the irony of the fact that you are able to communicate your defense of "nature" to people in every corner of the globe simultaneously to sink in. I suppose you believe that children with other birth defects shouldn't get medical treatment either? Like the child with the impacted skull or a twisted vertebrate. When was the last time you saw a dentist or got a vaccination? I suppose your computer is made of wood and is powered by fairy dust?

GTFO "natural."

On January 27 2010 20:40 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Dude, are you a tranny?

On January 27 2010 21:05 endy wrote:
this is weird, if he could be pregnant it means he still had menstruations. and since he is a man now i guess he has no vagina anymore, how will the baby go out? o_o

On January 27 2010 21:05 endy wrote:
this is weird, if he could be pregnant it means he still had menstruations. and since he is a man now i guess he has no vagina anymore, how will the baby go out? o_o

On January 27 2010 21:15 JohnColtrane wrote:


it comes out of that little hole your piss goes out of

However, he could not afford the gender surgery, so still has female organs.

On January 27 2010 21:32 endy wrote:


Then why saying he is a man? T_T
Having a beard an small breast doesn't make you a man especially if you still have female organs...

On January 27 2010 21:32 endy wrote:


Then why saying he is a man? T_T
Having a beard an small breast doesn't make you a man especially if you still have female organs...

On January 27 2010 21:32 endy wrote:


Then why saying he is a man? T_T
Having a beard an small breast doesn't make you a man especially if you still have female organs...

On January 27 2010 21:38 FieryBalrog wrote:
This sorta shit better not be covered by health insurance.

On January 27 2010 21:38 FieryBalrog wrote:
This sorta shit better not be covered by health insurance.

On January 27 2010 21:42 seppolevne wrote:

Indeed, the nerve of some people. I mean honestly, having a baby!?

On January 27 2010 21:49 FieryBalrog wrote:


Not that; transgender surgery and all the expensive bullshit that goes with it. I'm tired of people claiming every lifestyle choice and elective procedure under the sun is now all of society's responsibility.

I'm also tired of the outrage-mongering in this thread. Wrapping yourself in the cloak of moral superiority doesn't deserve anyone's attention.

I hope in 100 years these moral idiocies and obsessions of our century will be as discredited and scorned as those of the 19th century are today.

On January 27 2010 22:16 Cloud wrote:
lol. It's pretty cool, who cares if it "goes against nature" (it doesn't). Showing disgust here is just one form of religious indignation.

On January 27 2010 13:53 seppolevne wrote:


And as for that second part, once again, maybe not happening here, but look up parthenogenesis.

On January 27 2010 19:42 prototype. wrote:

so the baby will only be not screwed up physically

On January 27 2010 20:40 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:


Dude, are you a tranny?

On January 28 2010 00:42 fusionsdf wrote:


no, but I am, so fuck you

On January 27 2010 21:49 FieryBalrog wrote:


Not that; transgender surgery and all the expensive bullshit that goes with it. I'm tired of people claiming every lifestyle choice and elective procedure under the sun is now all of society's responsibility.

I'm also tired of the outrage-mongering in this thread. Wrapping yourself in the cloak of moral superiority doesn't deserve anyone's attention.

I hope in 100 years these moral idiocies and obsessions of our century will be as discredited and scorned as those of the 19th century are today.