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Are ret and IdrA too ugly to represent the foreigner community?
Title says all folks. I think that came off the wrong way. No, I don’t think ret and IdrA are really hideous or anything, I just think they’re not handsome enough to really represent the foreigners like Jaedong Bisu and Flash do in the Korean scene. Granted Flash isn’t quite as hot as Jaedong or Bisu, he’s still miles above IdrA or ret in my humble opinion. Now, like I said, IdrA and ret definitely aren’t ugly, they’re just “too ugly to represent the foreigner community” since the standards are so high there. Personally I think ret would be kinda cute if he lost some weight and IdrA could totally put on the moves if he lost the glasses. And I’m not saying that to be really mean or anything. It’s just that all the Koreans are really superficial – based on rekrul’s words – and they don’t like fat guys or ugly looking guys.
It’s just that… when I used to play starcraft, it was all about mondragon! And sometimes Draco. When you have a beefcake stud like mondragon and a person as gorgeous as Draco, it really helps to suck people into the game – especially girls, which would be really nice for the community in general. Now, it seems like mondy and draco have fallen off their pedestal but I don’t think IdrA or ret can adequately fill their shoes. Sure, ret and IdrA would school mondy or Draco with their insane mechanics and modern strategies but it just feels different (for me at least) when I watch IdrA play and when I watch Mondragon play. Mondy is just so much more handsome! Now, I know IdrA and ret probably don’t care too much about their physical appearance, but I really think they should. Maybe you could even attract girls into e-sports! I mean, it’s almost certain neither of you can reach the physical attractiveness of Mondi or Draco but you guys could still probably be a close second if you cared a bit more about your fans.
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why would looks matter? as long as you can put up results... ever heard of JulyZerg? he's got a golden mouse. nobody can question his ability as a progamer which is all that matters.
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Beauty comes from the inside
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I should represent the foreigners then. ^_____________________________________________^
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i bet a good amount of people on this forum don't know what half the foreigners look like
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Netherlands4511 Posts
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Korean girls love success and money, stop worrying about looks when even gamers like Hiya and Go.go have fangirls. Just win and the poon will come.
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United States43181 Posts
On December 31 2009 23:38 WillowCrow wrote:
your fans.
Who?
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
On December 31 2009 23:41 distant_voice wrote:
why would looks matter? as long as you can put up results... ever heard of JulyZerg? he's got a golden mouse. nobody can question his ability as a progamer which is all that matters.
Actually, i think July is a really underappreciated player.
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On December 31 2009 23:44 ret wrote:
you hurt my feelings ;(
F** him ret, we still love ya! You handsome devil, you! 
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I don't know what you mean. If ret loses 50 pounds, the girls will be all over him. Idra on the other hand is a lost cause. Only plastic surgery can save that person.
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United States43181 Posts
On December 31 2009 23:48 hacpee wrote:
I don't know what you mean. If ret loses 50 pounds, the girls will be all over him. Idra on the other hand is a lost cause. Only plastic surgery can save that person.
All white guys look the same to them. He's practically Harry Potter.
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On December 31 2009 23:48 hacpee wrote:
I don't know what you mean. If ret loses 50 pounds, the girls will be all over him. Idra on the other hand is a lost cause. Only plastic surgery can save that person.
haha ^_^
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Jaedong handsome?
must be troll
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
On December 31 2009 23:48 hacpee wrote:
I don't know what you mean. If ret loses 50 pounds, the girls will be all over him. Idra on the other hand is a lost cause. Only plastic surgery can save that person.
Lol. Proper haircut to compliment his stoic image and he'll be alright.
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postin' in an epic thread
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What!?
Ret is a sexy mofo!
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You hurt ret's feelings, troll! 
Anyway, when Idra actually had some makeup(and hairstyling?) on for his televised GOM games, he looked decent iirc.
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On December 31 2009 23:49 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 23:48 hacpee wrote:
I don't know what you mean. If ret loses 50 pounds, the girls will be all over him. Idra on the other hand is a lost cause. Only plastic surgery can save that person. All white guys look the same to them. He's practically Harry Potter.
That was such a bad good thread.
edit:
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hey that was my thing with the harry potter and idra stuff 'shop
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There are a lot of ugly progamers (fantasy, hiya, go.go...).
Its just that ret/IdrA are white, can't speak korean and they're very different from koreans in general. I think if ret/IdrA could perfectly speak korean, koreans would notice them and hang around with them (if ret/IdrA are cool to them ofc^^).
Koreans are just too shy to communicate with foreigners. For example: I love to travel to other countries where I've to speak english/other languages, its just great and cool experience ^^
I think its just the different attitude and the language barrier which makes it hard for ret/idra to integrate in the korean community.
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ibtl +1
im calling suspension for hacpee
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On December 31 2009 23:44 ret wrote:
you hurt my feelings ;(
^^^^^^
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On December 31 2009 23:53 Niton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 23:49 KwarK wrote:On December 31 2009 23:48 hacpee wrote:
I don't know what you mean. If ret loses 50 pounds, the girls will be all over him. Idra on the other hand is a lost cause. Only plastic surgery can save that person. All white guys look the same to them. He's practically Harry Potter. That was such a bad good thread. edit:
AHAHAHA AWESOME ! xD
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On December 31 2009 23:50 ZhenMiChan wrote:
Jaedong handsome?
must be troll
Hey I like JD's looks.... >
On December 31 2009 23:53 Niton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 23:49 KwarK wrote:On December 31 2009 23:48 hacpee wrote:
I don't know what you mean. If ret loses 50 pounds, the girls will be all over him. Idra on the other hand is a lost cause. Only plastic surgery can save that person. All white guys look the same to them. He's practically Harry Potter. That was such a bad good thread.
LOL Fantasy looks so natural in that pose xD
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On December 31 2009 23:41 distant_voice wrote:
why would looks matter? as long as you can put up results... ever heard of JulyZerg? he's got a golden mouse. nobody can question his ability as a progamer which is all that matters.
July is cuddly.
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pretty harsh.. but I had to laugh.. Modragon the beefcake stud lol..
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very smart op, you know that ret and idra are reading this right? Besides its not even true, ret could compete with the best looking foreigners if he sets his mind to do so. Idra would also look quite good with a more daring and open facial expression and posture.
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I doubt looks really matter in progaming. Just look at go.go and HiyA
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Considering how ugly Go.Go, by.hero (i fucking hate people who look like they're 12) and miracle look to name a few, I don't think koreans would care about ret or idra.
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Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. Then
when you do criticize that person, you'll be a mile away and
have his shoes.
And don't dizz ret's mojo! I'd give that guy a piece of my lovin any day!
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Lol... rets got sick looks and seeing the kind of koreans that play starcraft, I think its pretty clear there's no physical appearance aspect of it. Flash looks like he got kicked in the face... and fantasy's head is basically a wedge shaped.
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This is such a troll thread... I think I need to call the German Security Council and point them to this thread...
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You made my day. Thx sir.
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everyone loves ret, the koreans will too. He looks humble and well-hearted, whats not to like.
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On January 01 2010 00:20 aqui wrote:
everyone loves ret, the koreans will too. He looks humble and well-hearted, whats not to like.
I second that.
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i hope you are a girl WillowCrow
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Send LuckyFool, myself, and Torenhire. We'll show all those Koreans what's up.
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On January 01 2010 00:06 cokencheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2009 23:41 distant_voice wrote:
why would looks matter? as long as you can put up results... ever heard of JulyZerg? he's got a golden mouse. nobody can question his ability as a progamer which is all that matters. July is cuddly.
So maybe ret has to gain 50 pounds
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July and Effort on the other hand are/were really hot ...
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I wouldnt say no to either.
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konadora
Singapore66355 Posts
i think both of them are pretty good looking
especially idra
yep.
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On January 01 2010 00:43 konadora wrote:i think both of them are pretty good looking especially idra yep.
LOL!!!
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Wow, what a superficial thread. I guess OP will have to turn 50+ before understanding that judging people based on looks is extremely immature.
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they will stand out in a crowd regardless of their looks.
when idra starts destroying koreans left and right, his appeal will increase as well
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You have to read some threads first to believe that they are for real.
Wrong, just all wrong.
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On December 31 2009 23:53 Jayson X wrote:
What!?
Ret is a sexy mofo!
haha this
but @OP .. Super-handsome Draco worked out great in Korea didn't it?!
+ Show Spoiler +no it didnt so go away plz ty
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I'd hit it.
Just think what they could do with their hands. 
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My girlfriend thinks ret is cute 
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On January 01 2010 01:00 DrainX wrote:My girlfriend thinks ret is cute
hell I think ret is cute. in a devilish sorta way.
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I, frankly, don't share your opinion, WillowCrow.
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On January 01 2010 00:34 LordWeird wrote:
Send LuckyFool, myself, and Torenhire. We'll show all those Koreans what's up.
I don't think Koreans would like Torenhire's hair =P
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Not to be gay...
I find Ret looks cute
iDra looks funny, not ugly. He looks like Harry Potter in some shots, and a lot of girls would love to hook up with Daniel Radcliffe. iDra bringing Hogwarts to sc Pro scene o.o
In any case, I dont think looks matter at all. Only superficial guys are concerned about how girls looks, and girls concerned about themselves because they know a lot of guys are superficial o.o
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Yeah, that's what i'm sayin'
- We need a good looking guy with a HUGE FUCKING COCK to rep us foreigners!
The Koreans would be so impressed, oh my...
..Or we send two nerds who's actually good at the game, and is willing to spend all day long in a sweaty basement playing vs other nerds..
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If idra can stand up straight, he'd look 10x as better.
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in Korea they hardly even know that foreigners play Starcraft, let alone an American is on CJ B-Team
being attractive only helps if you get seen. I already think Idra and Ret are sexy enough as it is. Also if they moved to A-Team they'd probably have no choice to up their appearance with makeup and shit. Did Idra wear makeup on the first round of GOM?
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any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean)
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Most people will be impressed by your handsome look at first, but after a few conversations they'll know who you are and act accordingly.
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I have thought this for some time, one is a scrawny nerd, and the other is overweight. It would be nice to have someone vaguely good looking such as Mondi, Fisheye, Elky (at least he has style), or Tasteless representing the crackerlicious team.
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On January 01 2010 01:17 FridgeToss wrote:
any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean)
I don't think you speak for korean girls.
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Wtf does this matter. Anyway, to asian, most white people looks the same lol. Exept those very handsome one like Brad Pitt or some other movie stars O_O
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On January 01 2010 01:22 dasanivan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 01:17 FridgeToss wrote:
any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean) I don't think you speak for korean girls.
i on the other hand do speak for them.
they hate idra and love ret. not sure why but its a fact
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On January 01 2010 01:22 dasanivan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 01:17 FridgeToss wrote:
any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean) I don't think you speak for korean girls.
I think I would, because I've dated a korean exchange student and asked her and all of her friends about which gamers they thought were handsome. And by "asked" I mean shown them VODs and said "Do you think he's handsome?"
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On January 01 2010 01:26 FridgeToss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 01:22 dasanivan wrote:On January 01 2010 01:17 FridgeToss wrote:
any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean) I don't think you speak for korean girls. I think I would, because I've dated a korean exchange student and asked her and all of her friends about which gamers they thought were handsome. And by "asked" I mean shown them VODs and said "Do you think he's handsome?"
How did you miss Yellow.
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On January 01 2010 01:31 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 01:26 FridgeToss wrote:On January 01 2010 01:22 dasanivan wrote:On January 01 2010 01:17 FridgeToss wrote:
any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean) I don't think you speak for korean girls. I think I would, because I've dated a korean exchange student and asked her and all of her friends about which gamers they thought were handsome. And by "asked" I mean shown them VODs and said "Do you think he's handsome?" How did you miss Yellow.
As a matter of fact I did miss Yellow, he would probably be considered ok. He has big eyes, but he also has a low nose.
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On January 01 2010 01:26 FridgeToss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 01:22 dasanivan wrote:On January 01 2010 01:17 FridgeToss wrote:
any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean) I don't think you speak for korean girls. I think I would, because I've dated a korean exchange student and asked her and all of her friends about which gamers they thought were handsome. And by "asked" I mean shown them VODs and said "Do you think he's handsome?"
You are dead wrong that korean girls only like 3 progamers, if they did they wouldn't make up pretty much the whole audience
what about Hwasin girls LOVE him, even Grrr had tons of female fans back in the day. You can't generalize korean girls by sitting them down, making them watch vods, and asking their opinion. Theyd probably tell you anything to get out of there and have fun with their friend
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On January 01 2010 01:26 FridgeToss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 01:22 dasanivan wrote:On January 01 2010 01:17 FridgeToss wrote:
any korean girl will tell you that the only three remotely handsome progamers are reach, boxer, and bisu. additionally, they will tell you that they only are liked more because they are progamers; if they weren't, they'd just be normal guys (except bisu, because he's a "pretty boy", which they even have a phrase for in korean) I don't think you speak for korean girls. I think I would, because I've dated a korean exchange student and asked her and all of her friends about which gamers they thought were handsome. And by "asked" I mean shown them VODs and said "Do you think he's handsome?"
I dunno if that changes anything, since in order to prove what you originally said you'd need to have asked every existing Korean girl about every existing progamer. I get your point, but there are other progamers, hwasin and xellos to name a couple, who are considered good looking in korea.
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Sorry guys, I didn't ask every korean girl on planet earth about which progamers are handsome, and neither did I include every progamer ever in my list when I did ask the 7 girls I got a chance to ask.
But I will say that many american people find george clooney handsome.
Terrakin, like I said, they're considered handsome in the progaming community, which would make those girls in the audience progaming fans.
Lol sorry guys I'm so dumb, you sure told me. Enjoy your thread from here on out, it's rightfully yours.
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I don't understand most of your last post FridgeToss lol, you don't have to be a baby about it, just don't spread weird information with data you collect yourself.
Also I remember hearing from Tasteless (on a GOM cast) that alot of the Korean fangirls are there just so they can see their favorite player up close in person.
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wait. why are you mentioning their physical appearance?
because they don't get sent out?
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On January 01 2010 01:54 Terrakin wrote:
I don't understand most of your last post FridgeToss lol, you don't have to be a baby about it, just don't spread weird information with data you collect yourself.
Also I remember hearing from Tasteless (on a GOM cast) that alot of the Korean fangirls are there just so they can see their favorite player up close in person.
Sorry dude my information IS weird lol, wtf was I talking about george clooney for haha lol.
I gtg now I need to find somewhere to cry my infant eyes out.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
At least greg is beautiful on the inside.
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HURRY UP IDRA / RET! USE YOUR HANDSOME SKILLS FAST! GRAB YOUR VESSLES AND DEFILERS AND CAST HANDSOME SPELLS UPON YOURSELFS!
Seriously... what do you expect to gain from this thread? The feeling that you are not alone in complete superficiallity?
Ridiculous fucking thread. If I were an admin I would ip ban you (ip because obv you just made some random acct so your main one wouldn't be banned) for being so inconsiderate, abnoxious and straight up useless. Be happy that call is not mine.
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yes they are.. they are cute both of them!
i would cuddle ret tho! rofl
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Korean gamers like flash/bisu are caked in make up and picture perfect camera angles. If ret/idra had that TV magic i'd imagine they'd easily be better looking then 90% of progamers.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On January 01 2010 02:06 G5 wrote:
HURRY UP IDRA / RET! USE YOUR HANDSOME SKILLS FAST! GRAB YOUR VESSLES AND DEFILERS AND CAST HANDSOME SPELLS UPON YOURSELFS!
Seriously... what do you expect to gain from this thread? The feeling that you are not alone in complete superficiallity?
Ridiculous fucking thread. If I were an admin I would ip ban you (ip because obv you just made some random acct so your main one wouldn't be banned) for being so inconsiderate, abnoxious and straight up useless. Be happy that call is not mine.
We've been happy for sometime now that the call isn't yours eric.. remember ICCUP?
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Bisutopia19290 Posts
Unlocking another great gem for the 10 yr anniversary. Enjoy! Much love for Ret in this one.
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Is this the mod version of shitposting?
I mean I don't think this one even belongs in SC2 general.
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On August 05 2020 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Is this the mod version of shitposting?
I mean I don't think this one even belongs in SC2 general.
Why not? It's basically the opposite of Nada's body thread. Why is praise worthy of General, but scorn is not? I mean, I disagree with the OP: IdrA got all the girls swooning over Harry Potter, and Ret is just plain awesome. He also selectively "forgot" about a bunch of players more traditionally handsome. But seems like a general-worthy thread. Especially back in the day.
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Nony = Bisu
Idra = Jaedong
Ret = Flash
In terms of hot. With Nony having the slight upperhand over Bisu. Jaedong with the upperhand over Idra and Ret is more cute than Flash anyday.
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Frankly enough, I would say Trap was the most handsome korean player among others we had so far. Byun, both HerO and Polt also had good looks.
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10 years ago we didn't realize this was copypasta.
Are ret and IdrA too ugly to represent the foreigner community?
Title says all folks. I think that came off the wrong way. No, I don’t think ret and IdrA are really hideous or anything, I just think they’re not handsome enough to really represent the foreigners like Jaedong Bisu and Flash do in the Korean scene. Granted Flash isn’t quite as hot as Jaedong or Bisu, he’s still miles above IdrA or ret in my humble opinion. Now, like I said, IdrA and ret definitely aren’t ugly, they’re just “too ugly to represent the foreigner community” since the standards are so high there. Personally I think ret would be kinda cute if he lost some weight and IdrA could totally put on the moves if he lost the glasses. And I’m not saying that to be really mean or anything. It’s just that all the Koreans are really superficial – based on rekrul’s words – and they don’t like fat guys or ugly looking guys.
It’s just that… when I used to play starcraft, it was all about mondragon! And sometimes Draco. When you have a beefcake stud like mondragon and a person as gorgeous as Draco, it really helps to suck people into the game – especially girls, which would be really nice for the community in general. Now, it seems like mondy and draco have fallen off their pedestal but I don’t think IdrA or ret can adequately fill their shoes. Sure, ret and IdrA would school mondy or Draco with their insane mechanics and modern strategies but it just feels different (for me at least) when I watch IdrA play and when I watch Mondragon play. Mondy is just so much more handsome! Now, I know IdrA and ret probably don’t care too much about their physical appearance, but I really think they should. Maybe you could even attract girls into e-sports! I mean, it’s almost certain neither of you can reach the physical attractiveness of Mondi or Draco but you guys could still probably be a close second if you cared a bit more about your fans.
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I think they're both good looking and funny, no homo
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On August 05 2020 01:03 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2020 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Is this the mod version of shitposting?
I mean I don't think this one even belongs in SC2 general. Why not?
Because the thread is older than SC2 
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Bisutopia19290 Posts
On August 05 2020 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Is this the mod version of shitposting?
I mean I don't think this one even belongs in SC2 general.
I'm just having fun. I'm going to re-close these at the end of the week. Since they are in the closed section they aren't available to ever be seen or found.
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Northern Ireland25916 Posts
On August 05 2020 01:30 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2020 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Is this the mod version of shitposting?
I mean I don't think this one even belongs in SC2 general. I'm just having fun. I'm going to re-close these at the end of the week. Since they are in the closed section they aren't available to ever be seen or found.
Please leave open.
Alternatively could we have some kind of ‘classic threads ‘ listed somewhere and keep em closed but available for newbies and vets to peruse at our collective leisure?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37039 Posts
Fuck all lowercase titles. Thread has been renamed.
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your Country52797 Posts
Honestly, I'm not good at gauging this kind of thing in general but I assumed that IdrA was conventionally attractive and Ret was average.
On January 01 2010 00:48 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
This thread is so 2009.
This comment aged well.
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On August 05 2020 03:20 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2020 01:30 BisuDagger wrote:On August 05 2020 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Is this the mod version of shitposting?
I mean I don't think this one even belongs in SC2 general. I'm just having fun. I'm going to re-close these at the end of the week. Since they are in the closed section they aren't available to ever be seen or found. Please leave open. Alternatively could we have some kind of ‘classic threads ‘ listed somewhere and keep em closed but available for newbies and vets to peruse at our collective leisure?
As long as NaDa's body is pinned, that'd be cool.
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United States33465 Posts
On August 05 2020 00:17 Elentos wrote:
Is this the mod version of shitposting?
I mean I don't think this one even belongs in SC2 general.
staff shouldn't fight in public, so i'll say maybe this is a meta-thread meant to inform people on what kind of cringe material NOT to post on TL 
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This shouldn't have been re-opened. This is gross and offensive to the players named. Close and delete this shit.
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On August 05 2020 06:52 G5 wrote:
This shouldn't have been re-opened. This is gross and offensive to the players named. Close and delete this shit.
Idra was gross to whole community. Who cares
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On August 05 2020 06:52 G5 wrote:
This shouldn't have been re-opened. This is gross and offensive to the players named. Close and delete this shit.
Agree with this.
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Bisutopia19290 Posts
On August 05 2020 06:52 G5 wrote:
This shouldn't have been re-opened. This is gross and offensive to the players named. Close and delete this shit.
This Necro was in jest, but not meant to hurt feelings. I’ll take your cue. <3
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