EPTOn December 23 2009 10:02 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
lol you're really hung up on this aren't you. I was referring to Koreans as people living in Korea. It's not an ethnic thing, it's a language thing. Yeah, some people who are ethnically Korean live in the States or elsewhere, but I wasn't referring to them. And yeah, some Koreans (living in Korea) have learned English. See below.
Obviously there are plenty of native speakers who have terrible English grammar, but I don't think it's a stretch to assume non native speakers have on average worse English grammar.
Would you be flipping out about this if someone had written this fic in error filled Korean, and someone suggested it was a foreigner? Would you be spouting stuff like "yeah because no foreigners live in Korea and none of them speak Korean. Also, only foreigners make grammatical errors."? No, it's ridiculous. It's not offensive at all to see some fucked up Korean and think maybe a foreigner wrote it. It's not offensive at all to see some messed up English and wonder if a non native speaker wrote it. This being a site about Starcraft, and the fic being about Starcraft, the first group of non native speakers that comes to mind is naturally Koreans (people living in Korean, growing up speaking Korean). This is a ridiculous thing to get offended about.
lol you're really hung up on this aren't you. I was referring to Koreans as people living in Korea. It's not an ethnic thing, it's a language thing. Yeah, some people who are ethnically Korean live in the States or elsewhere, but I wasn't referring to them. And yeah, some Koreans (living in Korea) have learned English. See below.
Obviously there are plenty of native speakers who have terrible English grammar, but I don't think it's a stretch to assume non native speakers have on average worse English grammar.
Would you be flipping out about this if someone had written this fic in error filled Korean, and someone suggested it was a foreigner? Would you be spouting stuff like "yeah because no foreigners live in Korea and none of them speak Korean. Also, only foreigners make grammatical errors."? No, it's ridiculous. It's not offensive at all to see some fucked up Korean and think maybe a foreigner wrote it. It's not offensive at all to see some messed up English and wonder if a non native speaker wrote it. This being a site about Starcraft, and the fic being about Starcraft, the first group of non native speakers that comes to mind is naturally Koreans (people living in Korean, growing up speaking Korean). This is a ridiculous thing to get offended about.
Oh right, because only Koreans have language barriers that prevent them from writing their gay progamer fanfics with proper grammar. How many non-native speakers do you know that use words like orifice, oral crevice or whence? Also, most foreigners in Korea probably don't speak Korean, so yeah, I guess I would spout that stuff. They teach English for a reason. Then again, I was being sarcastic in my original post, implying that there were Koreans living in not-Korea and that people who spoke other languages that were not English would probably be just as predisposed to making mistakes as Koreans.
In any case, the errors aren't even that bad.
