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[SPL] Playoffs - STX SouL vs Samsung KHAN Day2 - Page 45

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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#881
On July 19 2009 16:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:26 darktreb wrote:
Yeah but that gets balanced out by having TWO BO7s before....


That makes it even more ridiculous. You put time and effort into making a potential 14 games, but STILL have the ultimate outcome decided by one game.


By that logic, isn't every series in the end decided by 1 game (the last game played)?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#882

I'm not calling Khan to give the win to STX, I'm not a big fan of either of the teams. I'm just saying that I don't like the format.


Yep, me too. Not sure why everyone's getting so serious lol =/
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#883
xd jangbi
and everyone doubted him
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#884
On July 19 2009 16:27 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:26 darktreb wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:25 3clipse wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote:
Hahaha are people really complaining about the format? Both teams knew very well how it worked. They understood that matches mattered, not games. KHAN did what it needed to win on fair ground?

The fact that both teams understood the system doesn't lend it any sort of credibility. The entire point of a bo7 is to reduce variance and let the most skilled team win. You throw all that out the fucking window when you stage a bo1 as a tiebreaker.


Yeah but that gets balanced out by having TWO BO7s before....

Exactly.

This format strikes a perfect balance between matching team depth and matching ace player skill.


The bo7 doesn't reduce variance at all, it simply lends a chance to the players who play much less during the regular season to play during playoff and really show the team's lineup. what does reduce variance is having TWO of them. using an ace tie break is perfectly logical and has very fair and is used widely in every sport.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#885
On July 19 2009 16:29 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:26 darktreb wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:25 3clipse wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote:
Hahaha are people really complaining about the format? Both teams knew very well how it worked. They understood that matches mattered, not games. KHAN did what it needed to win on fair ground?

The fact that both teams understood the system doesn't lend it any sort of credibility. The entire point of a bo7 is to reduce variance and let the most skilled team win. You throw all that out the fucking window when you stage a bo1 as a tiebreaker.


Yeah but that gets balanced out by having TWO BO7s before....

I could potentially beat a progamer if I 5pooled him.

No, no you wouldn't.

stop bawwing about the format and just accept that STX lost.

BOTH teams had to prepare for the format, and the better team won.

if STX is such a great team with such amazing TEAM DEPTH LOL then why did they lose the first bo7 in the first place?

move on
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#886
Quick partial translation of the interview with JangBi by XYoonZ! All credits to him <3.

Commentator: "It was a hard match congrats"
Commentator: "did you decide to go out? or did the coach pick?"
JangBi: "i was ready to go out as Ace. The ace was different from game 5. I was panicked in game 5 so i got composed and decided to win the ACE. During all of game 5, i was panicked."
Commentator: "Did you think you would win with the zealot rush?"
JangBi: "I knew i would win when I saw the scourge pop."
Commentator: "CJ has advanced."
JangBi: "It doesnt matter which team advances cuz it will be tough matches. As long as we prepare we can win."
Commentator: "Will you have a ceremony?
JangBi: "My body isnt made for that..."

Again, props to XYoonZ for the translation!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#887
On July 19 2009 16:27 faseman wrote:
Can't comment on basketball. Don't know anything about it.

If you compare it to tennis it's like losing 7-5 in sets and THEN playing a tie-break. Just doesn't make much sense.

No, it's like winning 76 26 76
Arf
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 19 2009 07:31 GMT
#888
Whine all you want. It doesn't matter when SKT rapes whichever team they go up against. ^_^
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
July 19 2009 07:32 GMT
#889
On July 19 2009 16:29 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:26 darktreb wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:25 3clipse wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote:
Hahaha are people really complaining about the format? Both teams knew very well how it worked. They understood that matches mattered, not games. KHAN did what it needed to win on fair ground?

The fact that both teams understood the system doesn't lend it any sort of credibility. The entire point of a bo7 is to reduce variance and let the most skilled team win. You throw all that out the fucking window when you stage a bo1 as a tiebreaker.


Yeah but that gets balanced out by having TWO BO7s before....

No, this is absolutely retarded logic. Having each team win one of the bo7's shows you that they're fairly close in skill. The best way to discern who is better when they are obviously close is to play MORE games as opposed to less. A single game in SC can be a coinflip- I could potentially beat a progamer if I 5pooled him.


Your argument got worse sentence by sentence, until you ended with the golden "I could beat a progamer if I 5 pooled".
Presony-Boy
Profile Joined April 2007
Israel812 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 07:32:40
July 19 2009 07:32 GMT
#890
it just nice how all the khan fans make it sound like this format is perfect.
if jangbi wouldve lost, then khan fans wouldve whined about the format.
so seriously just let us the stx fans whine for a while till we all get over it, u dont even have to respond (talking to all the non-stx fans).
Hwasin fan since 15 February 2007 - Hwasin/Calm/Kal Fighting~!
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
July 19 2009 07:33 GMT
#891
On July 19 2009 16:18 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I hate my life so much.


I think you should just Calm down a minute... oh wait, lololol.


I lol'ed!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 19 2009 07:33 GMT
#892
before someone claims "omg spoilers on other game banwtf" during the game they did show small updates on the other PL match being played/results
dats racist
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
July 19 2009 07:33 GMT
#893
On July 19 2009 16:31 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:27 faseman wrote:
Can't comment on basketball. Don't know anything about it.

If you compare it to tennis it's like losing 7-5 in sets and THEN playing a tie-break. Just doesn't make much sense.

No, it's like winning 76 26 76


Can you expand? I don't quite get what you're saying.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
July 19 2009 07:33 GMT
#894
ah fuck. this is going to be a sad couple of weeks for me lol
Free Palestine
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
July 19 2009 07:34 GMT
#895
On July 19 2009 16:32 Presony-Boy wrote:
it just nice how all the khan fans make it sound like this format is perfect.
if jangbi wouldve lost, then khan fans wouldve whined about the format.
so seriously just let us the stx fans whine for a while till we all get over it, u dont even have to respond (talking to all the non-stx fans).


No, I'm pretty sure the Khan fan would have shrugged his shoulders and called it a day.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 19 2009 07:34 GMT
#896
On July 19 2009 16:29 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:26 darktreb wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:25 3clipse wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote:
Hahaha are people really complaining about the format? Both teams knew very well how it worked. They understood that matches mattered, not games. KHAN did what it needed to win on fair ground?

The fact that both teams understood the system doesn't lend it any sort of credibility. The entire point of a bo7 is to reduce variance and let the most skilled team win. You throw all that out the fucking window when you stage a bo1 as a tiebreaker.


Yeah but that gets balanced out by having TWO BO7s before....

No, this is absolutely retarded logic. Having each team win one of the bo7's shows you that they're fairly close in skill. The best way to discern who is better when they are obviously close is to play MORE games as opposed to less. A single game in SC can be a coinflip- I could potentially beat a progamer if I 5pooled him.

HAHAHA this is pure gold
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
July 19 2009 07:34 GMT
#897
On July 19 2009 16:31 Mystlord wrote:
Quick partial translation of the interview with JangBi by XYoonZ! All credits to him <3.

Commentator: "It was a hard match congrats"
Commentator: "did you decide to go out? or did the coach pick?"
JangBi: "i was ready to go out as Ace. The ace was different from game 5. I was panicked in game 5 so i got composed and decided to win the ACE. During all of game 5, i was panicked."
Commentator: "Did you think you would win with the zealot rush?"
JangBi: "I knew i would win when I saw the scourge pop."
Commentator: "CJ has advanced."
JangBi: "It doesnt matter which team advances cuz it will be tough matches. As long as we prepare we can win."
Commentator: "Will you have a ceremony?
JangBi: "My body isnt made for that..."

Again, props to XYoonZ for the translation!

JangBi "decided to win" the ACE. Haha

Must be confident against such easy opposition.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
July 19 2009 07:34 GMT
#898
On July 19 2009 16:34 Nitan wrote:
No, I'm pretty sure the Khan fan would have shrugged his shoulders and called it a day.


ur funny!
TranslatorBaa!
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 07:35:18
July 19 2009 07:34 GMT
#899
On July 19 2009 16:31 deathgod6 wrote:
Whine all you want. It doesn't matter when SKT rapes whichever team they go up against. ^_^


Hahaha, this.

Thanks for posting that translation Myst. ^_^
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 07:36:50
July 19 2009 07:35 GMT
#900
On July 19 2009 16:32 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:29 3clipse wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:26 darktreb wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:25 3clipse wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:21 OneOther wrote:
Hahaha are people really complaining about the format? Both teams knew very well how it worked. They understood that matches mattered, not games. KHAN did what it needed to win on fair ground?

The fact that both teams understood the system doesn't lend it any sort of credibility. The entire point of a bo7 is to reduce variance and let the most skilled team win. You throw all that out the fucking window when you stage a bo1 as a tiebreaker.


Yeah but that gets balanced out by having TWO BO7s before....

No, this is absolutely retarded logic. Having each team win one of the bo7's shows you that they're fairly close in skill. The best way to discern who is better when they are obviously close is to play MORE games as opposed to less. A single game in SC can be a coinflip- I could potentially beat a progamer if I 5pooled him.


Your argument got worse sentence by sentence, until you ended with the golden "I could beat a progamer if I 5 pooled".

It is improbable, but certianly possible.
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