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- Your team was destroyed at Round 2
▲ During sets 1, 2 and 3 I was incredibly furious. During Set 1, Juni should've done the OBVIOUS and reacted against the build like everyone should've done, yet he chose the absolute worst strategy. During set 2, FBH was ahead so so much yet he decided to ruin everything. Set 2 made me angry because it was a very important set for us, but FBH's early build was scouted immediately and did nothing about it. And set 3, yoOn didn't go as we originally planned and decided to do his own bad build.
- But you still had your poker face on
▲ I couldn't be screaming during a playoff game so I decided to keep my cool to calm my team down. Now that we finished our game, these boys need some discipline back in the dorms.
Suprised that noone has commented on this yet.
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Bahaha just rewatched the Stork vs Modesty game, that game is pure gold, especially thanks to the awesome, energetic commentary provided by the MBC commentators. When Stork was destroying everything at Modesty's nat/third with his Archon/Zeal army, you can hear the commentators go ARCHON!!! all in unison at the same time, so awesome. They do this again when they see 4 DTs walking around, all yelling out DARKU TEMPLAR!!! at the same time again haha.
I myself would be very interested in the Khan vs STX interviews, seems like January especially has a lot of interesting things to say
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On July 20 2009 14:27 Kreedit wrote:Show nested quote +- Your team was destroyed at Round 2
▲ During sets 1, 2 and 3 I was incredibly furious. During Set 1, Juni should've done the OBVIOUS and reacted against the build like everyone should've done, yet he chose the absolute worst strategy. During set 2, FBH was ahead so so much yet he decided to ruin everything. Set 2 made me angry because it was a very important set for us, but FBH's early build was scouted immediately and did nothing about it. And set 3, yoOn didn't go as we originally planned and decided to do his own bad build.
- But you still had your poker face on
▲ I couldn't be screaming during a playoff game so I decided to keep my cool to calm my team down. Now that we finished our game, these boys need some discipline back in the dorms. Suprised that noone has commented on this yet.
I thought it was common knowledge (or at least a widespread rumor) that January was one of the strictest coaches?
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On July 21 2009 00:13 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2009 14:27 Kreedit wrote:- Your team was destroyed at Round 2
▲ During sets 1, 2 and 3 I was incredibly furious. During Set 1, Juni should've done the OBVIOUS and reacted against the build like everyone should've done, yet he chose the absolute worst strategy. During set 2, FBH was ahead so so much yet he decided to ruin everything. Set 2 made me angry because it was a very important set for us, but FBH's early build was scouted immediately and did nothing about it. And set 3, yoOn didn't go as we originally planned and decided to do his own bad build.
- But you still had your poker face on
▲ I couldn't be screaming during a playoff game so I decided to keep my cool to calm my team down. Now that we finished our game, these boys need some discipline back in the dorms. Suprised that noone has commented on this yet. I thought it was common knowledge (or at least a widespread rumor) that January was one of the strictest coaches?
-insert sexual innuendo here-
I'm pretty sure that's what he was looking for.
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On July 20 2009 14:27 Kreedit wrote:Show nested quote +- Your team was destroyed at Round 2
▲ During sets 1, 2 and 3 I was incredibly furious. During Set 1, Juni should've done the OBVIOUS and reacted against the build like everyone should've done, yet he chose the absolute worst strategy. During set 2, FBH was ahead so so much yet he decided to ruin everything. Set 2 made me angry because it was a very important set for us, but FBH's early build was scouted immediately and did nothing about it. And set 3, yoOn didn't go as we originally planned and decided to do his own bad build.
- But you still had your poker face on
▲ I couldn't be screaming during a playoff game so I decided to keep my cool to calm my team down. Now that we finished our game, these boys need some discipline back in the dorms. Suprised that noone has commented on this yet.
whats it matter, they won they advance now.
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On July 20 2009 13:24 Musoeun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2009 10:58 Creationism wrote:On July 20 2009 05:14 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I dont get how Jangbi beat calm so thoroughly, did he do a tricky build order and thus confuse calm that he was going +1 speed zelots? He seemed so utterly under prepared [and I skimmed through, admittedly] Calm thought it was fast dts, he was researching ovie speed when the commentators showed it in the replay. hydra + ovie speed 4 hatch b4 lair... im guessing counter dt fast break? im guessing thats what he was trying. Watching it, I was guessing that Calm was thinking +1/archon timing attack, and planning to hydra-break before that happened. And while I'd tend to agree with the "should have scouted", the question really is, "with what?" Lings weren't going to make it in, and with the OL having to go around the cannon would he actually have seen anything? But whether or not he "should" have scouted, the key to the game was that Calm never saw the extra gates that Jangbi put down. On the other hand, Jangbi was also rushing blind - he couldn't get a probe in to scout. Just imagine if Calm had out-guessed him and gone fast lurkers. It would have looked like a BackHo-level fail on Jangbi's part.
jangbi's rush was relatively quick. he was cutting probes. calm wouldn't have gotten lurkers out in time. the only way he wouldve gotten lurkers out in time would be if he went 2 base lair, which is absurd on colo.
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On July 20 2009 13:24 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2009 16:12 d(O.o)a wrote:
NOOOOO I QUIT STARCRAFT LIFE FOR TONIGHT Okay after taking some time to think I've come to the only possible conclusion that it's pretty obvious protoss is overpowered, I think that jangbi and stork should be banned from participation in the proleague finals and through association their team BANISHED from korea and in it's place STX will replace them of course samsung will not be left without honor, they can dress their entire team in STX uniforms and watch from the audience slapping anybody nearby them that utters any jokes about Julyzerg. Uh, wouldn't their hands get sore though?
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On July 21 2009 07:59 sk` wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2009 13:24 d(O.o)a wrote:On July 19 2009 16:12 d(O.o)a wrote:
NOOOOO I QUIT STARCRAFT LIFE FOR TONIGHT Okay after taking some time to think I've come to the only possible conclusion that it's pretty obvious protoss is overpowered, I think that jangbi and stork should be banned from participation in the proleague finals and through association their team BANISHED from korea and in it's place STX will replace them of course samsung will not be left without honor, they can dress their entire team in STX uniforms and watch from the audience slapping anybody nearby them that utters any jokes about Julyzerg. Uh, wouldn't their hands get sore though?
This is part of their punishment.
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It's pretty obvious that Calm just had no idea how to react. The +1 speedlot is a bit faster than the 4 gate archon, and the tell tale sign is an early working forge, which Calm either failed to notice, or interpret correctly.
Also the lack of sairs is a dead giveaway :|
January is a strict coach though :O
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On July 21 2009 09:12 FragKrag wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Calm just had no idea how to react. The +1 speedlot is a bit faster than the 4 gate archon, and the tell tale sign is an early working forge, which Calm either failed to notice, or interpret correctly.
Also the lack of sairs is a dead giveaway :|
January is a strict coach though :O
well, lack of sairs was supposed to have been made up for the two stargates. Jangbi would have been screwed against 3 hat muta into 5 hat hydra, but that just didn't happen. As soon as jangbi saw that there was only scourge popping, then he knew that he was golden.
His build hit right as +1 finished, and calm might have thought that jangbi was just faking a +1 speedzeal (it's not common, especially on colo off of only 3 gates)...
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it all coulda been avoided if calm had his olord in JB's base and not just outside the entrance 
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On July 20 2009 13:24 Musoeun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2009 10:58 Creationism wrote:On July 20 2009 05:14 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I dont get how Jangbi beat calm so thoroughly, did he do a tricky build order and thus confuse calm that he was going +1 speed zelots? He seemed so utterly under prepared [and I skimmed through, admittedly] Calm thought it was fast dts, he was researching ovie speed when the commentators showed it in the replay. hydra + ovie speed 4 hatch b4 lair... im guessing counter dt fast break? im guessing thats what he was trying. Watching it, I was guessing that Calm was thinking +1/archon timing attack, and planning to hydra-break before that happened. And while I'd tend to agree with the "should have scouted", the question really is, "with what?" Lings weren't going to make it in, and with the OL having to go around the cannon would he actually have seen anything? But whether or not he "should" have scouted, the key to the game was that Calm never saw the extra gates that Jangbi put down. On the other hand, Jangbi was also rushing blind - he couldn't get a probe in to scout. Just imagine if Calm had out-guessed him and gone fast lurkers. It would have looked like a BackHo-level fail on Jangbi's part.
Great analysis, I do think Calm would have had to stretch mighty hard for lurkers to pull that off in the timing window JB took though. He barely had his scourge out by the time Jangbi showed up. researching and then morphing lurks and powering drones in that time frame would have been very hard to do. I'm not sure he could have countered it except with more lings + sunks.
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I'm glad khan won, but I still hate the format.
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On July 21 2009 00:13 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2009 14:27 Kreedit wrote:- Your team was destroyed at Round 2
▲ During sets 1, 2 and 3 I was incredibly furious. During Set 1, Juni should've done the OBVIOUS and reacted against the build like everyone should've done, yet he chose the absolute worst strategy. During set 2, FBH was ahead so so much yet he decided to ruin everything. Set 2 made me angry because it was a very important set for us, but FBH's early build was scouted immediately and did nothing about it. And set 3, yoOn didn't go as we originally planned and decided to do his own bad build.
- But you still had your poker face on
▲ I couldn't be screaming during a playoff game so I decided to keep my cool to calm my team down. Now that we finished our game, these boys need some discipline back in the dorms. Suprised that noone has commented on this yet. I thought it was common knowledge (or at least a widespread rumor) that January was one of the strictest coaches?
Artosis said that KHAN practices the least out of all progaming teams, though.
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On July 22 2009 03:30 illu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2009 00:13 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote:On July 20 2009 14:27 Kreedit wrote:- Your team was destroyed at Round 2
▲ During sets 1, 2 and 3 I was incredibly furious. During Set 1, Juni should've done the OBVIOUS and reacted against the build like everyone should've done, yet he chose the absolute worst strategy. During set 2, FBH was ahead so so much yet he decided to ruin everything. Set 2 made me angry because it was a very important set for us, but FBH's early build was scouted immediately and did nothing about it. And set 3, yoOn didn't go as we originally planned and decided to do his own bad build.
- But you still had your poker face on
▲ I couldn't be screaming during a playoff game so I decided to keep my cool to calm my team down. Now that we finished our game, these boys need some discipline back in the dorms. Suprised that noone has commented on this yet. I thought it was common knowledge (or at least a widespread rumor) that January was one of the strictest coaches? Artosis said that KHAN practices the least out of all progaming teams, though.
Well, has the least required number of practice hours, at least.
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On July 21 2009 09:12 FragKrag wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Calm just had no idea how to react. The +1 speedlot is a bit faster than the 4 gate archon, and the tell tale sign is an early working forge, which Calm either failed to notice, or interpret correctly.
Also the lack of sairs is a dead giveaway :|
January is a strict coach though :O
thats all i used to face when i started playing TT
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So is anyone planning on doing the winners interviews?
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Stork is the only one that held it together in the match, but then they send in Jangbi to rape Ace. Good move by KHAN.
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Wow, finally got around to watching this whole 13 game set. And I must say I'm pleasantly surprised by the result. Didn't really gave Khan a chance given their lack of depth. But they really got lucky. Miracle finally played well on TV. And Great somehow managed to pull out 2 ZvZs where it looked like he's screwed, but ended up winning.
Overall though, not very entertaining. Watching lesser modern SC players is like watching robots play. With Modesty v Stork as the shining example of how to suicide cracklings endlessly into triple-upgraded zealot/archon/temp army.
Also, got to add my 2 cents on the STX whining. What's with the whole "playoffs structure is unfair" deal with the STX fans? I mean, you all do realize that the playoffs in of itself is BAD for judging the best teams right? Right?
Best way to judge the quality of a team is by regular season record.
In which case, SKT1 should be the champion of the proleagues. And us non-T1 fans won't even be in a position to even think about being on top. Playoffs structure came about because of entertainment and $$$$$. And thank god there's the playoffs or the entire season would only be about T1 and Oz for the last months or so.
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why didn't stx send hero???
Hero is a superior choice vs toss, he's decent against terran and zerg too????
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