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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
June 10 2009 06:20 GMT
#781
Jangbi hiding his scouting probe.. happens to me all the time lol
Writerptrk
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
June 10 2009 06:20 GMT
#782
On June 10 2009 15:18 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2009 15:14 MuffinDude wrote:
Its really lame, because once people's favorite player loses, they blame map imbalance and crap. God's garden is slightly tipped in terran's favor, 6 - 10, 37.5%. But that doesn't mean I blame the map for jangbi's loss. Jangbi could of done better against the vultures. Fantasy's harass was better than jangbi's. Yes, I am a khan toss fan and I can admit that my player was outplayed. Now I want to see other people stop blaming the fcking map imbalances. IF bisu was as good as people say he was, little harasses like that shouldn't of hurt him DAT MUCH. GET OVER IT GUYS, STORK PLAYED A BETTER GAME. and yes, the map favored stork a bit.

Sigh.

I don't care who won. Bisu vs Stork, I cheer for Bisu but I'm not overly bummed he lost (now if it was vs a zerg player, I'd be sad if Bisu lost, I have PvZ pride rooted deep).

You have to be able to talk about WHY someone lost without people being "omg stop crying". Not like anyone has said "god, it was all the positions, stork is such a lucky chobo".


Sorry, it just sounded like a lot of people were blaming the map for stork's good harass.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 10 2009 06:20 GMT
#783
range going up for bisu...jangbi's scout in a corner of bisu's base, hiding.....2 gates for jb....and bisu with his 2nd just going up..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-10 06:21:16
June 10 2009 06:20 GMT
#784
On June 10 2009 15:20 Elyvilon wrote:
So if Jangbi loses here, can I put 50+% of the blame on the positions?

yes if you can explain how the positions are imbalanced. go ahead. go.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 10 2009 06:20 GMT
#785
oh nvm it's done.....goon chasing the scout.....
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 10 2009 06:21 GMT
#786
robo for jangbi....range done for bisu...
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 10 2009 06:21 GMT
#787
Support Bay for both players.
God Bless
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
June 10 2009 06:21 GMT
#788
robo up for both players

jangbi has faster support bay
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 10 2009 06:22 GMT
#789
range rape time...aww, jangbi with range too....tells bisu to fuck off....bisu's robo is a little late...
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 10 2009 06:22 GMT
#790
jangbi with a faster bay......
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#791
reavers out for both players

goon armies clashing in the middle!
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#792
LOL?!?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#793
Armies almost perfectly traded wow. Sick micro by both.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
thanhbao86
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada199 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#794
How do you really defend against those storm drops or reaver drops? Stork flied from the high ground and then suddenly appeared, Bisu didn't have the vision.
You can say put like goons/ cannons/ high templars and then obs so that you can see the shuttles coming. However, Stork had like 2 shuttles, so how many should you put. Anyway, you wasted money right there in the beginning of the game which cost even more later. You say like you know the drops coming that way, what happens if Stork attack at the front and Bisu has his units all over the place to defend against drops. Now its easy to say but remember there is no clear choice for Bisu to defend at that time. I don't need to even say about building cannons, it wastes money and make you even more behind. For Bisu, its much harder for him to harrass, by the time he drops his reavers in Stork base, some goons already back and the shuttle need to fly a long way to get out of his base. --> obviously, Stork had the advantage.
When you have an advantage, you are more confident so you play better. This makes perfect sense.
I would say the other drops later didnt matter that much, the game was done right when two shuttles with 3 reavers killed a lot probes.
Lets see this game. Bisu has the advantage in position.
Fat Dragoon
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#795
Haha, scuffle in the mid. Bisu comes out on top one goon.
God Bless
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#796
Nice little battle by both players.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#797
jangbi loads 1 reaver and moves out..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Polus
Profile Joined June 2008
United States25 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#798
incredible
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#799
this is called position balance.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 10 2009 06:23 GMT
#800
That was some awesome reaver shuttle timing
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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