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I think neo medusa now favors T, and god's garden. Which is why I picked T everytime:p I think jaedong will be even extra motivated to crush movie to avenge his loss. I dont see him losing to a fresh faced pro like Movie twice in a row.
On April 26 2009 17:29 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Rediculously sexy match ups tonight.
Flash Hiya Nada Jaedong
I think neo medusa now favors T, and god's garden. Which is why I picked T everytime:p I think jaedong will be even extra motivated to crush movie to avenge his loss. I dont see him losing to a fresh faced pro like Movie twice in a row.
This is a pretty good GOM day, with Flash, Hiya, Nada and JD out here to prove they deserve their reputation I did liquibet all the favorites! Hope we don't get any more surprises :x
His drops are actually doing pretty well, although he's not keeping stuff alive, the DTs actually did a decent job. imo. His defense hasn't been good though. I'm not going to argue he's playing brilliantly, he's obviously losing, but it's hard to find many holes in what he's trying to do.
Normally I defend Flash's style for the subtle genius in everything he does, but I have to admit that game he just played as safely as possible and rolled.
Anyone that knows how to fix streams please pm me. I'm so pissed, my internet is working fine, tested at 500 kbps but I can't vlc or gom player to actually load the stream. I just get a can't connect error. My firewall is turned off.
On April 26 2009 18:37 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Anyone that knows how to fix streams please pm me. I'm so pissed, my internet is working fine, tested at 500 kbps but I can't vlc or gom player to actually load the stream. I just get a can't connect error. My firewall is turned off.
On April 26 2009 18:48 Musoeun wrote: I like how Tasteless is reassuring viewers, "Pure's build was supposed to work," what, like we thought he was trying to lose?
i think your trying too hard to criticize something
On April 26 2009 18:50 freelander wrote: why does flash have to play these matches these should be autowin for him
I mean he is the most solid player ever at raping lesser players
Yeah, more than any other player, Flash pretty much NEVER loses to players below a certain cutoff of skill, especially without extenuating circumstances (such as Battle Royal).
On April 26 2009 18:48 Musoeun wrote: I like how Tasteless is reassuring viewers, "Pure's build was supposed to work," what, like we thought he was trying to lose?
i think your trying too hard to criticize something
What, I said I liked it, what's wrong with that? o.O
From my expierence on iccup, even though I'm obviously no where near the pro level, I find that vult drop is an extremely weak build for tvp. Good for tvz though
There are so many ways P can kill a vult drop. Offensively and defensively.
P almost always comes out with an advantage if they play safely.
Hiya is fucked Stats finally ferrying units above the wall in, but backs off? God damnit I'm gonna have to watch another long pvt on destination where on player is at a huge advantage?
Ok Stats ferrying goons up... ok o r he could run his shuttle wherever?
On April 26 2009 19:11 -slo.m1ke- wrote: Why did he NOT wall-in ? EGO ?
I didn't see his position but walling in costs a lot mining time and/or money.
If, from practice games, he has expierenced very few early ling builds; there is no need for a wall in.
He had plenty of time to wall-in but elected to put his second Supply Depot somewhere else instead inexplicably. His Machine Shop was almost done when the Zealot busted its way in!
Also he was facing Protoss so the early ling part is irrelevant.
On April 26 2009 19:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Reports appreciated please, never could get my gom player to connect, even after I did a system restore. Maybe it's full?
On April 26 2009 19:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Reports appreciated please, never could get my gom player to connect, even after I did a system restore. Maybe it's full?
On April 26 2009 19:20 hideo wrote: why is there this trend of 12 nexus vs 10/15 gate now?
They are the build orders that are most likely to put you at an advantage on a map like neo medusa.
The 10/15 by killing scvs/tanks/depots to catch up from a weaker economy. Basically you're hoping to just flat out win by some small T mistake(very easy to happen). However at this level it's probably too much of a gamble as Ts defensive skills are nearly flawless.
The 12 nex by maintaining a constantly superior economy and defending it throughout the game while denying T his 4th.
On April 26 2009 19:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Reports appreciated please, never could get my gom player to connect, even after I did a system restore. Maybe it's full?
are u trying the english one or the korean one?
The english one.
I used to have the korean one..but for some reason it switched.
On April 26 2009 19:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Reports appreciated please, never could get my gom player to connect, even after I did a system restore. Maybe it's full?
Yea I tried that, same effect as with gom. Thats why I did the system restore.
I honestly think its this really old motorola router but thats basically superstition Or "Geek sense"?
I get this message: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://65.49.46.28:8901/view.cgi?syst...mp;title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3'. Check the log for details.
On April 26 2009 19:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Reports appreciated please, never could get my gom player to connect, even after I did a system restore. Maybe it's full?
Yea I tried that, same effect as with gom. Thats why I did the system restore.
I honestly think its this really old motorola router but thats basically superstition Or "Geek sense"?
I get this message: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://65.49.46.28:8901/view.cgi?syst...mp;title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3'. Check the log for details.
Don't mean to offend if this is a dumb question but you're sure you didn't paste in the TL-forum formatting shortened version of the link (the one that says "syst...mp" in the middle) as opposed to right clicking on the link, hitting "copy link location", and pasting that in instead?
On April 26 2009 19:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Reports appreciated please, never could get my gom player to connect, even after I did a system restore. Maybe it's full?
Yea I tried that, same effect as with gom. Thats why I did the system restore.
I honestly think its this really old motorola router but thats basically superstition Or "Geek sense"?
I get this message: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://65.49.46.28:8901/view.cgi?syst...mp;title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3'. Check the log for details.
You've gotta copy the link location...not the text of the post.
On April 26 2009 19:19 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Reports appreciated please, never could get my gom player to connect, even after I did a system restore. Maybe it's full?
Yea I tried that, same effect as with gom. Thats why I did the system restore.
I honestly think its this really old motorola router but thats basically superstition Or "Geek sense"?
I get this message: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://65.49.46.28:8901/view.cgi?syst...mp;title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3'. Check the log for details.
Don't mean to offend if this is a dumb question but you're sure you didn't paste in the TL-forum formatting shortened version of the link (the one that says "syst...mp" in the middle) as opposed to right clicking on the link, hitting "copy link location", and pasting that in instead?
Lol omfg.
And that brings me to my next point...don't smoke weed kids.
VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://65.49.46.42:8900/view.cgi?systype=500&subtype=30&hid=160&nid=99&key=0&imp&url=0&cid=9999&title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3'. Check the log for details.
ok 2 tanks are hitting stats 4th again, hiya's got a huge army theres an arb in hiyas base adn does a recall in the main near the cc meanwhile hiya's just a moving into stats main and thats a gg =P
On April 26 2009 19:30 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://65.49.46.42:8900/view.cgi?systype=500&subtype=30&hid=160&nid=99&key=0&imp&url=0&cid=9999&title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3'. Check the log for details.
On April 26 2009 19:30 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://65.49.46.42:8900/view.cgi?systype=500&subtype=30&hid=160&nid=99&key=0&imp&url=0&cid=9999&title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason3'. Check the log for details.
On April 26 2009 19:45 MorningMusume11 wrote: wow that rear nex just went down, and then hiya picks up his surviving two tanks and ferrys them back to base
Seriously?
Wow what epic timing failure by P.
The dropship mustve come a lot faster than he was used to.
On April 26 2009 19:45 MorningMusume11 wrote: wow that rear nex just went down, and then hiya picks up his surviving two tanks and ferrys them back to base
Seriously?
Wow what epic timing failure by P.
The dropship mustve come a lot faster than he was used to.
no joke, he's putting a nex bottom left, and upping his gateway count to 7ish
tasteless said that stats waiting for his nexus to die before dropping was making his commentating look bad but I think that it was tasteless' commentating making stats' play look bad
wow hiya goes for that ridge again, and stats had like 7 goons on there (some dropship micro hehe) but hiya kills em, and puts more troops on there it gets cleaned up buy zealots however
On April 26 2009 19:56 nothingbutzerg wrote: Stats is sooo afraid for no reason
Being down in supply against T is a pretty good reason to be afraid You need to maintain a solid force or youll be run over so you have to pick your spots very carefully and abuse storm.
a low hp arbier dies near hiya's main rear cc (tried a recall?) hiyas running his 4th now stats trying to break the contain again but has to back off (byong lol) recall at hiya's 4th
On April 26 2009 20:04 Shikyo wrote: Somehow Hiya always loses to noob tosses in single league, but is amazing in proleague vs Protoss. Choke much?
I think he just plays on Proleague maps a shit load. On only a small amount of time (possibly his free time?) is used playing GOM maps.
Well game 3 was a proleague map but he seemed to be pretty lost (besides his early/mid dropship play, which still wasn't so perfectly executed by progamer standards) :x
ya i thought Pure would actually bring his A game, like then when he was pwning the Proleague. Although he didnt play bad at all, Flash is just Flash, strong as a rock.
On April 26 2009 20:04 Shikyo wrote: Somehow Hiya always loses to noob tosses in single league, but is amazing in proleague vs Protoss. Choke much?
I think he just plays on Proleague maps a shit load. On only a small amount of time (possibly his free time?) is used playing GOM maps.
Well game 3 was a proleague map but he seemed to be pretty lost (besides his early/mid dropship play, which still wasn't so perfectly executed by progamer standards) :x
On April 26 2009 20:31 StylishVODs wrote: that ebaymove is actually quite common and used alot by leta lately, followed up with 2port wraith. but this wont be 2port wraith i guess
Oh well, tasteless can't be right 100% of the time I guess.
On April 26 2009 20:32 Naib wrote: How come Danielman doesn't know H_Falcon_W ? Well I guess he's new as a progamer, but damn he's been playing SC for as long as I can remember.
On April 26 2009 20:32 Naib wrote: How come Danielman doesn't know H_Falcon_W ? Well I guess he's new as a progamer, but damn he's been playing SC for as long as I can remember.
he debuted early 2008 and he's only 21 or so
so i doubt he's been around forever
I rephrase: I've seen his replays and knew his name ages ago. He wasn't a progamer back then, but if I knew him (I didn't know most of nowadays good players back then, not even Stork), others should know him too.
It seemed as if NaDa's game sense failed him, like he thought he was far behind after the muta harass and needed to turtle to have a chance. While he in reality he was far ahead and could have a-moved his 12 gollis and won ><.
NaDa playing the same build as he did versus savior in that epic game on longinus in the OSL finals I think. Walling into 1 rax cc -> vessel. And there goes the rax, yay
Falcon did a mistake by letting Nada stay in this game, and concentrating on macro instead. Nada's upgrades start to kick in as he's switching to standard SK.
On April 26 2009 21:11 Elric wrote: That was fucking awesome. Nada showing us some true comeback magic (admittedly after playing very shit for the 1st half)
SDM made a good observation during the comeback: the moment he stopped wasting money on valkyries, he started climbing back.
On April 26 2009 21:13 MorningMusume11 wrote: so u guys think mnm play is viable on this map too?
Not really, you can still get flanked so easily on this map and your main is so easy to harass because muta's are covered by the high ground. And vulture play is still really good vs zerg on medusa. I really wouldn't go m&m on medusa.
On April 26 2009 21:13 MorningMusume11 wrote: so u guys think mnm play is viable on this map too?
Not really, you can still get flanked so easily on this map and your main is so easy to harass because muta's are covered by the high ground. And vulture play is still really good vs zerg on medusa. I really wouldn't go m&m on medusa.
On April 26 2009 21:13 MorningMusume11 wrote: so u guys think mnm play is viable on this map too?
Not really, you can still get flanked so easily on this map and your main is so easy to harass because muta's are covered by the high ground. And vulture play is still really good vs zerg on medusa. I really wouldn't go m&m on medusa.
On April 26 2009 21:13 MorningMusume11 wrote: so u guys think mnm play is viable on this map too?
Not really, you can still get flanked so easily on this map and your main is so easy to harass because muta's are covered by the high ground. And vulture play is still really good vs zerg on medusa. I really wouldn't go m&m on medusa.
Looks like Nada is going bio
Oh my bad I thought you were talking about medusa still, reviewing the last game.
mnm on gods garden is definately more viable than on medusa, easier to defend against mutas even though the map is so big and the middle doesn't provide a lot of cover. I think mnm is as good as mech on this map.
2 starports going up for nada, looks like some sk terran ultra cavern finishes nada is moving out with his army falcon has 7 sunkens up hatchery going up at top left main
By the way, isn't Falcon's picture wrong on the liquibet page? That picture doesn't really look like the player :s. Maybe I didn't get a good look at him in the stream though.
Beh it looks like he didn't even practice on this maps. He won game 2 because of straight muscle play / multitasking but other than that a series of failed timings and wierd as fuck building placement.
lol the korean um is "ja" =P if u hear the korean commentators saying that all the time think of it as an "um" =P This Scarab show is pretty fun to watch~~
As WeMade has already mentionned, Nada is training for starleagues a lot. So i guess he doesn't practice too much on maps like "Neo"Medusa and God's garden. That still doesn't explain his weak performance on destination though....
On April 26 2009 21:32 EvoChamber wrote: Falcon seems more macro-oriented than Jaedong. Definitely someone to look out for, since he's clearly way better than ggaemo (and lomo).
On April 26 2009 21:39 Hammy wrote: As WeMade has already mentionned, Nada is training for starleagues a lot. So i guess he doesn't practice too much on maps like "Neo"Medusa and God's garden. That still doesn't explain his weak performance on destination though....
when it comes to starleagues if gamers wouldnt mind losing on, this would be it right?
On April 26 2009 21:32 EvoChamber wrote: Falcon seems more macro-oriented than Jaedong. Definitely someone to look out for, since he's clearly way better than ggaemo (and lomo).
Isnt Lomo a T?
So? He just said that Falcon is better than Lomo, although i disagree
On April 26 2009 21:47 538 wrote: Why are the stats they mention different from the tlpd ones? (usually they have a lot higher number of matches ) What does GOM count that tlpd doesnt?
that attack was delayed but much bigger than normal, jaedong didnt see it coming due to the first one failing but the first one was much weaker due to delayed gateway construction and a shitload of extra probes
strong play, i really do think this kid is gonna make something of himself eventually
On April 26 2009 22:02 ret wrote: jaedongs hydras were super super late i wonder what he was thinking
yeah honestly, he didnt even compensate with mass sunks for it... any B level toss on iccup probably would have run him over °_°
this is why movie's build was so effective
after the first attack on jaedong's nat, jaedong assumed movie would stop making corsairs and try to expand, and get storm to defend the eventual hydra switch. jaedong made mutas so he could try to harass or even prevent the third base from protoss
but movie had different ideas and ran jaedong over
It's kind of funny how completely useless tasteless and daniel have become as commentators, it's like they don't even watch the game anymore they just ramble on about inane shit
On April 26 2009 22:02 Malinor wrote: JD basically lost the first game in the exact same fashion as he lost in PL against Movie, just a different map.
Build Hydras, please
??? totally different games
I just mean the pattern. Of course there were canons behind minerals stuff. But basically JD building mutas and lings till the end of time and movie responding with archons, mass corsairs and speedlots.
On April 26 2009 22:06 floor exercise wrote: It's kind of funny how completely useless tasteless and daniel have become as commentators, it's like they don't even watch the game anymore they just ramble on about inane shit
IMO rambling on about inane shit is better than telling you things that you can already see.
Does anyone know if its a condition that oov, magma, and move have with their eyes? i seen some ppl irl with that glaring into the sun look but idk what it is.
On April 26 2009 22:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: hey hey hey hey
everyone thinking jaedong played bad or whatever, that was 100% movie's victory not jaedong's loss, movie's build timing was sick
jaedong didnt play bad he just got worked
I disagree completely. Sure Movie played well and all, but Jaedong's hydras were EXTREMELY late, and he had no sunkens to turtle up.
hey they weren't "late" i posted about this two pages ago check it out
jaedong got fooled, for what his intentions were you can't say his hydras were "late"
thats like saying a terran's goliaths were "late" when a protoss hides stargates 30 minutes into a game and makes a buncha carriers and the terran doesnt see it
Shuttle incoming at Jaedong's back nat! 2 zealots 1 goons dropped, drones run away, attacking the spire!! Jaedong's drones come back but the spire goes down!
Jaedong had a steady stream of drops into movie's base. Started with some ht snipes with some mutas, which then harassed movie's completely undefended main (his only cannons were at his nat because he'd sniped the spire). Then dropped two lurkers and a bunch of hydras, reinforced with the mutas and a couple scourge, took out all four reavers with the mutas (and a bunch of hydras at the end) and an obs with scourge. Started killing gateways. Reinforced with more dropped hydras and lurkers. Sniped another obs. Took out robo and more gateways. Reinforced again. gg
Can we send Jaedong a request to always go hydra vs toss now? Every single toss is afraid of losing to mutas vs. him and thus he can take advantage of this fear by just destroying them with his great hydra play!
On April 26 2009 22:25 boredcouch wrote: Can we send Jaedong a request to always go hydra vs toss now? Every single toss is afraid of losing to mutas vs. him and thus he can take advantage of this fear by just destroying them with his great hydra play!
Well his mutas were pretty key to winning this game. He just needs to mix it up sometimes. Maybe let the toss snipe his spire so he can do shit like this...
On April 26 2009 22:25 boredcouch wrote: Can we send Jaedong a request to always go hydra vs toss now? Every single toss is afraid of losing to mutas vs. him and thus he can take advantage of this fear by just destroying them with his great hydra play!
Jaedong always attacks when he doesn't know what to do. It costs him a lot of games, but this time it saved his ass. Movie would have overpowered Jaedong easily later on if that three step attack of hydralisk lurker drop, mutalisk snipe and the final doom drop didn't work out. Most zergs would have pressed SD instinctively trying to delay their death, but if there's one thing Jaedong does in the face of defeat, it's attacking with all his might. And it's quite a fierce attack too.
yeah there is a difference. JD over relies on his mutas... which cost him the game a lot of times. But at the same time they create epic games (like against iris). I say he is best with a mixture. It doesn't even have to be that much of a mixture just get 10 hydras =P. Another thing i notice is he works a lot better with a smaller eco rather than trying to macro crazy. Game 1 here showed his crazy macro style which failed (there are others but i'm too tired to remember them). His smaller eco builds work for him much better like 2 hatch mutas we see a lot as well as those epic queen games where he went fast hive on 2 gas. This is probably (or obviously) due to his insane micro/control.
Just my 2 cents (i watch a lot of jd games.. every one of them as well as rewatching them)
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote: Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.
eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
On April 26 2009 22:30 Letmelose wrote: Jaedong always attacks when he doesn't know what to do. It costs him a lot of games, but this time it saved his ass. Movie would have overpowered Jaedong easily later on if that three step attack of hydralisk lurker drop, mutalisk snipe and the final doom drop didn't work out. Most zergs would have pressed SD instinctively trying to delay their death, but if there's one thing Jaedong does in the face of defeat, it's attacking with all his might. And it's quite a fierce attack too.
that's very true. it's what is currently seperating jaedong from other zergs; when other zergs are that far behind they just delay their loss as much as they can. they still lose
jaedong will find away to turn the game around, and given his incredible control, it works out far more often than it should
snapcrackle: I definitely agree with you that Jaedong over relies on his mutas. However, I don't think you can say that his macro style is "bad". The low econ games that Jaedong wins just showcase how good his micro is and thus you think he should just stick with that strategy. Combine that godly micro with a stream of endless units and Jaedong is unstoppable.
The first game he lost because Movie tricked him and found an opening just as Jaedong was about to start pumping units. Either way, if Jaedong can continue to play at such a high level we may be seeing the GOAT of starcraft!
Jaedong's micro, concentration and reaction time was way sloppier than the usual standards we are used to seeing. For a player like Jaedong who relies so heavily on crisp execution rather than smooth management skills (like Savior in his prime), this really does cost him heavily.
Jaedong wouldn't have lost his first game had he used scourges to keep the corsair count to a bare minimum. His scourge micro was off, but his game plan was "set" for his usual top notch condition where his mutalisks are free to snipe the zealot archon army.
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote: Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.
eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote: Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.
eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.
To be fair, one of the maps is hardly different (Neo Medusa) and one is obviously not the most foreign (Destination). His only excuse if that were the case would be A Garden of GOD but he won so :>
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote: Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.
eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.
To be fair, one of the maps is hardly different (Neo Medusa) and one is obviously not the most foreign (Destination). His only excuse if that were the case would be A Garden of GOD but he won so :>
Well, I was speaking more generally, but yeah, the map pool had minimal effect on today's games. Like I said, Jaedong looked really tired, and wasn't his usal crisp self.
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote: Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.
eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.
To be fair, one of the maps is hardly different (Neo Medusa) and one is obviously not the most foreign (Destination). His only excuse if that were the case would be A Garden of GOD but he won so :>
Well, I was speaking more generally, but yeah, the map pool had minimal effect on today's games. Like I said, Jaedong looked really tired, and wasn't his usal crisp self.
Well 3 of the games he's lost lately can actually be excused in the next PR aslong as he starts playing good again now. (those games are the two games he had to face a new build and didn't have an answer for it, but my guess is you won't be able to do it one more time, and the last game is the cannonprox on outsider.) Jaedongs not slumping yet, just shown some weak games in a row, happens every once in a while to all dominating players.
On April 27 2009 03:52 Avidkeystamper wrote: Anyways, I just watched Movie vs Jaedong Game 3 and I'm curious how was Jaedong in complete control after his drop even when he was behind?
On April 27 2009 03:53 Metal[x] wrote: nada...well that's depressing T_T
qft. wtf is going on this season, with SKT1 and bisu/best/fantasy not participating and then stork/jangbi getting ownd in a fucking pvt. and now nada loses tvz against some noob.. fu fate, fu
On April 27 2009 03:53 Metal[x] wrote: nada...well that's depressing T_T
qft. wtf is going on this season, with SKT1 and bisu/best/fantasy not participating and then stork/jangbi getting ownd in a fucking pvt. and then now loses tvz against some noob.. fu fate, fu
I kept an eye on H_Falcon_W from the he got drafted to Oz, he is really good, and his muta harass is excellent, definitively Jaedong's padawan
On April 27 2009 03:52 Avidkeystamper wrote: Anyways, I just watched Movie vs Jaedong Game 3 and I'm curious how was Jaedong in complete control after his drop even when he was behind?
wat
Where did you see it? :<
Either gomtv.com or wfbrood.com, today wfbrood buffered quickly so i saw it there.
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote: Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.
eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
Who would you put above Jaedong on PR? Even if he's lost some games recently, the only people you can even consider putting above him are Bisu, Flash, Leta, or fantasy, none of whom I think actually should go above him.
Man with SKT1 dropping out and Stork and Jangbi taking serious upset losses, it looks like this season is gonna be the complete opposite of last. Poor protoss.
On April 27 2009 08:16 TwoToneTerran wrote: Man with SKT1 dropping out and Stork and Jangbi taking serious upset losses, it looks like this season is gonna be the complete opposite of last. Poor protoss.
After stuff like last season and Clubday MSL, they had this coming to them.
On April 26 2009 22:48 NovaTheFeared wrote: I'm glad Jaedong is finally out of his slump.
This made me lol. Just thought you should know.
You're welcome. I think it's utterly ridiculous to call a 3 game streak a "slump".
To be fair, it was 3 straight games after his OSL win, and they were all games of him playing poorly, compared to his performance the month prior. It was a mini-slump, in that he really was playing worse after all the exhaustion that is carrying your team through WL and winning an OSL.
I don't mind that he loses some iffy games against predominantly no names (Ganzi? come on) but it's not a stretch to assume that he's playing worse after an OSL win. I think every player except Boxer July and Nada did.
On April 26 2009 22:48 NovaTheFeared wrote: I'm glad Jaedong is finally out of his slump.
This made me lol. Just thought you should know.
You're welcome. I think it's utterly ridiculous to call a 3 game streak a "slump".
To be fair, it was 3 straight games after his OSL win, and they were all games of him playing poorly, compared to his performance the month prior. It was a mini-slump, in that he really was playing worse after all the exhaustion that is carrying your team through WL and winning an OSL.
I don't mind that he loses some iffy games against predominantly no names (Ganzi? come on) but it's not a stretch to assume that he's playing worse after an OSL win. I think every player except Boxer July and Nada did.
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote: Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.
eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
Who would you put above Jaedong on PR? Even if he's lost some games recently, the only people you can even consider putting above him are Bisu, Flash, Leta, or fantasy, none of whom I think actually should go above him.
to be quite honest i would not prefer anyone but jaedong on top as i am HUGE fan of his. But this month JD is 8/14 wile Leta and Skyhigh are both 5/6 and Fantasy is 5/8. Depending on how well the rest of this month plays Skyhigh and Leta look to be in better shape this month than JD. Sure you can say new maps justify this as JD is not use to it or what not but then again no progamer is. Also he lost 3 out of those 6 losses (half of them) to no namers (by no namers i mean Movie and Ganzi) he has won 3 of them to ZvZ (though this just heightens his ZvZ credit) and has no big wins (by big wins i mean against big players Flash Bisu Free Fantasy Leta Skyhigh (Currently top in ELO with himself) . Skyhigh on the other hand is 5/6 this month. 13/15 since february. He defeated Flash this month and Jaedong twice in the end of the last month (3/28). So who would i put above JD? Well in all honesty Leta and Skyhigh aren't looking shabby where JD this month isn't looking great (not saying he's looking but... just saying he isn't looking great)
Does anyone know where I can find gom classic streams with the english commentary besides gomtv.net? There are a decent number of them on Youku but it seems like halfway through season1 the uploader started posting the korean commentary instead of english. I'm in shanghai until end of may and gomtv.net streams are way too slow sometimes.. youku is incredibly fast (chinese site) but like i said.. switched to korean commentary. if theyre posted on youtube, i apologize.. i wouldn't know.. youtube was banned about 1 month ago. (even so, 85% of the time youtube is also too slow to stream). any other alternative hosts? I'm still going through season1.. about on the RO32 so far. if theyre available via torrents, that would work too