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[WL] Playoffs: KTF vs OZ - Page 45

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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 22 2009 05:31 GMT
#881
On March 22 2009 14:30 Kentor wrote:
wtf guardians are large and mutas are small
guardians vs goliaths lol


mutas are medium actually :o

but the point stands
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
March 22 2009 05:31 GMT
#882
On March 22 2009 14:31 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:29 konadora wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:20 ShloobeR wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:18 maareek wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:08 ShloobeR wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:07 maareek wrote:
ForGG finally manages to defend and run JD off, but he's already taken an insane amount of damage. Guardians, I assume...


i hope he doesnt go guardians vs mass goliath O.o


Guardians are afraid of air units and little else. No vessels? Guard/hydra is very, very strong. Especially with an insane economy. Frankly, though, after that muta harass JD could have done pretty much anything and won.


although he had ridiculous amounts of gas there are still much simpler ways to win that fight then by charging into guardians vs mass goliath, plus JD loses everytime he makes guardians

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I suppose this is the game against Free.

You can also use his game against Flash this MSL. Again greater spire and again out of the MSL

Don't forget Bacchus OSL vs Flash.
POGGERS
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 22 2009 05:31 GMT
#883
On March 22 2009 14:28 ._. wrote:
why didn't forgg just go m+m..

Can any terran explain the advantages of going mech on medusa for me?

I can't see it.

2hat muta is really strong on Medusa.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 22 2009 05:31 GMT
#884
If you can afford to win with guardians, you can definitely afford to win without them.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#885
Man, I don't know about putting Luxury here...

And the next map is Rush Hour 3, so even if he does win, he'll be against Hiya/Lomo.
Xstatic
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States765 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#886
On March 22 2009 14:31 fiRe)HappyZerg wrote:
Luxury won yesterday, that's why he is gonna lose now <_<


Lux is playing JD. Jaedong excels at killing fellow zergs.
Lux is going to lose. (JD fanboyism ftw!)
GOGO JAEDONG ALLKILL
Snow - Protoss the way it was meant to be, one mindgame at a time ^^
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#887
On March 22 2009 14:31 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:30 Kentor wrote:
wtf guardians are large and mutas are small
guardians vs goliaths lol


mutas are medium actually :o

but the point stands


Nope, they're small!
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 05:33:01
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#888
On March 22 2009 14:30 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:28 ._. wrote:
why didn't forgg just go m+m..

Can any terran explain the advantages of going mech on medusa for me?

I can't see it.


you can lingtight wallin and runby very good with vults.

bio vs zerg on medusa is not good. Too hard to defend mutalisk harass and you need to hold zerg not only away from your natural but also from the temple.. its really hard.
Basically zerg only have to get half way to terrans base to put him in trouble.

Ah, thank you.
Map = Z > T

and

So I guess the "fantasy build" would be quite adaptable for a map like this?

but even so, forgg handled those mutas rather poorly, far too little turrets and none on the high ground for his main.
:D
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#889
On March 22 2009 14:31 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:30 Kentor wrote:
wtf guardians are large and mutas are small
guardians vs goliaths lol


mutas are medium actually :o

but the point stands


no, they're definitely small =\
the courage to be a lazy bum
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#890
Don't you need Greater Spire for level 3 ground upgrades?
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#891
the thing is about sending lux is that even IF lux wins RH3 is next.
i can almost guarantee lomo would then b sent out as hiya is prolly saved for the very end
plus chupeong is a very T>Z map.....

w/e game 3 started
Forever Young
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17040 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#892
On March 22 2009 14:31 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:30 Kentor wrote:
wtf guardians are large and mutas are small
guardians vs goliaths lol


mutas are medium actually :o

but the point stands


Really? I always thought Mutalisks were small.
Moderator
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#893
On March 22 2009 14:31 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:30 Kentor wrote:
wtf guardians are large and mutas are small
guardians vs goliaths lol


mutas are medium actually :o

but the point stands

they're small
http://classic.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/mutalisk.shtml
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
March 22 2009 05:32 GMT
#894
gogo Luxury, prove yourself as new Zerg king!
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 22 2009 05:33 GMT
#895
On March 22 2009 14:32 rushz0rz wrote:
Don't you need Greater Spire for level 3 ground upgrades?


Nope, you don't even need it for level 3 air upgrades. It's purely for the guardians/devourers.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
March 22 2009 05:33 GMT
#896
On March 22 2009 14:30 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:28 ._. wrote:
why didn't forgg just go m+m..

Can any terran explain the advantages of going mech on medusa for me?

I can't see it.


you can lingtight wallin and runby very good with vults.

bio vs zerg on medusa is not good. Too hard to defend mutalisk harass and you need to hold zerg not only away from your natural but also from the temple.. its really hard.
Basically zerg only have to get half way to terrans base to put him in trouble.



Also (not apart) but terran lategame bio, cannot fight the long map distances without losing there expo's, getting flanked, nydus flanked or anything else
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 22 2009 05:33 GMT
#897
Starting
GOGO JD
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
March 22 2009 05:33 GMT
#898
On March 22 2009 14:20 ShloobeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:18 maareek wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:08 ShloobeR wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:07 maareek wrote:
ForGG finally manages to defend and run JD off, but he's already taken an insane amount of damage. Guardians, I assume...


i hope he doesnt go guardians vs mass goliath O.o


Guardians are afraid of air units and little else. No vessels? Guard/hydra is very, very strong. Especially with an insane economy. Frankly, though, after that muta harass JD could have done pretty much anything and won.


although he had ridiculous amounts of gas there are still much simpler ways to win that fight then by charging into guardians vs mass goliath, plus JD loses everytime he makes guardians


He already had upgraded hydralisks and 5 bases with map control and a terran who was contained to 2 bases with a damaged economy. Guardians would force him to make even less tanks and be more susceptible to hydra when he finally pushed out. Muta could do the same, but when you're up by that far, style points are cool. It wouldn't have been pure gol against pure guardian.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7821 Posts
March 22 2009 05:33 GMT
#899
Luxury fighting!
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 22 2009 05:33 GMT
#900
On March 22 2009 14:32 rushz0rz wrote:
Don't you need Greater Spire for level 3 ground upgrades?


0_o
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