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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On March 09 2009 07:08 IntoTheWow wrote: Kwanroll or sKyHigh please. KWWAAANNROLLLL!!! It is the only word on TL.net you can put in all caps and still be fashionable every time. + Show Spoiler + Warning: being fashionable does not prevent you from being banned by the moderators. | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On March 09 2009 07:30 iloveHieu wrote: I'm going to stay up for this so SavioR better play!!!! You have just jinxed this thread. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On March 09 2009 07:56 littlechava wrote: gah why can't this be on at 12:00 instead of ace vs ogn Because it is at a better time for the Korean community. No one wants to miss KTF vs CJ while at work and come home to ACE vs OGN. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On March 09 2009 07:56 littlechava wrote: gah why can't this be on at 12:00 instead of ace vs ogn Because this match actually has playoff implications, so they want to put it on primetime. It sucks for us, but oh well. | ||
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Origami
United States266 Posts
If CJ wins: CJ will be first place overall for this round and KTF will be forced down to 4th place due to SKT having more net points. If KTF wins 4-0: KTF will become second place overall and CJ will be forced down to third losing either playoff seed. If KTF wins 4-1: CJ and KTF will both be exactly tied at 8-3 with +10 points. I don't know how these tiebreakers work, but this is a very important tie for second place seeding. If KTF wins 4-2: KTF places 3rd and CJ places 2nd. If KTF wins 4-3: CJ and Oz are forced into tie for first place. Someone double check me on this. Scores I'm basing this off of from here: CJ 8-2 +13 Oz 8-3 +12 KTF 7-3 +7 SKT 7-4 +8 EDIT: Does anyone know how the tiebreakers work? | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On March 09 2009 07:54 l10f wrote: nbs>luxury nbs>sair nbs>tempest nbs>flash nbs > KTF Fat chance. If it did happen, then CJ would have yet another up and coming pro on their team. They already have: The Zerg duo, Effort and Kwanroll, Skyhigh, and Movie. These are equally balanced by Much, Iris, and sAviOr (who can take teach 2 pupils per game because he is just that good.). | ||
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darktreb
United States3017 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:04 Origami wrote: Also potential standings changes from this match: If CJ wins: CJ will be first place overall for this round and KTF will be forced down to 4th place due to SKT having more net points. If KTF wins 4-0: KTF will become second place overall and CJ will be forced down to third losing either playoff seed. If KTF wins 4-1: CJ and KTF will both be exactly tied at 8-3 with +10 points. I don't know how these tiebreakers work, but this is a very important tie for second place seeding. If KTF wins 4-2: KTF places 3rd and CJ places 2nd. If KTF wins 4-3: CJ and Oz are forced into tie for first place. Someone double check me on this. Scores I'm basing this off of from here: CJ 8-2 +13 Oz 8-3 +12 KTF 7-3 +7 SKT 7-4 +8 EDIT: Does anyone know how the tiebreakers work? I would guess that if KTF and CJ are tied and KTF beat CJ, then KTF comes out ahead, right? Since KTF gains a lot for winning 4-1 or better, I think they're going to send Flash second and go for the 4-1. | ||
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eatmyshorts5
United States1530 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:04 Origami wrote: Also potential standings changes from this match: If CJ wins: CJ will be first place overall for this round and KTF will be forced down to 4th place due to SKT having more net points. If KTF wins 4-0: KTF will become second place overall and CJ will be forced down to third losing either playoff seed. If KTF wins 4-1: CJ and KTF will both be exactly tied at 8-3 with +10 points. I don't know how these tiebreakers work, but this is a very important tie for second place seeding. If KTF wins 4-2: KTF places 3rd and CJ places 2nd. If KTF wins 4-3: CJ and Oz are forced into tie for first place. Someone double check me on this. Scores I'm basing this off of from here: CJ 8-2 +13 Oz 8-3 +12 KTF 7-3 +7 SKT 7-4 +8 EDIT: Does anyone know how the tiebreakers work? I think your wrong. Taken from most recent proleague article: + Show Spoiler + They're up against Stars in the last game which is going to be just awesome suspense. I'm thinking STX or OGN take the spot with CJ finishing as the top seed since CJ play KTF in the last game and Lecaf can't make up the points difference. | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:04 Origami wrote: Also potential standings changes from this match: If CJ wins: CJ will be first place overall for this round and KTF will be forced down to 4th place due to SKT having more net points. If KTF wins 4-0: KTF will become second place overall and CJ will be forced down to third losing either playoff seed. If KTF wins 4-1: CJ and KTF will both be exactly tied at 8-3 with +10 points. I don't know how these tiebreakers work, but this is a very important tie for second place seeding. If KTF wins 4-2: KTF places 3rd and CJ places 2nd. If KTF wins 4-3: CJ and Oz are forced into tie for first place. Someone double check me on this. Scores I'm basing this off of from here: CJ 8-2 +13 Oz 8-3 +12 KTF 7-3 +7 SKT 7-4 +8 EDIT: Does anyone know how the tiebreakers work? Your scenarios are all correct. As for the tiebreakers, I know that during the regular Proleague season, if a tie like this occurred at the end of the season then they would have a one-game playoff for the seed. I don't know what the protocol is for Winners League though, they may do the same thing, or the tiebreaker may be head-to-head record. | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:10 eatmyshorts5 wrote: I think your wrong. Taken from most recent proleague article: + Show Spoiler + They're up against Stars in the last game which is going to be just awesome suspense. I'm thinking STX or OGN take the spot with CJ finishing as the top seed since CJ play KTF in the last game and Lecaf can't make up the points difference. Fzero made a mistake in that article. Read the comments. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
All the top players that they have beaten have come from a different player. Iris took down Bisu, Kwanroll took down JangBi, sAviOr took down Yellow and Leta, Skyhigh took down Jaedong. When it comes down to beating Luxury or Flash, which player is going to be the one, if any at all? | ||
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eatmyshorts5
United States1530 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:12 Qwertify wrote: What really pisses me off, if that STX beat CJ 4-0. If that didn't happen, they would be in much better shape right now. This, and the fact that they could not take down Kal in any game really makes me wonder how good of a team CJ really can be. All the top players that they have beaten have come from a different player. Iris took down Bisu, Kwanroll took down JangBi, sAviOr took down Yellow and Leta, Skyhigh took down Jaedong. When it comes down to beating Luxury or Flash, which player is going to be the one, if any at all? Iris has Luxury's number and i bet CJ has been training a ton to snipe flash. Thats what they did with Jaedong. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
XD would like to see orion out there, in that big chinese tourney he looked strong why do you guys bother addding savior to the all-kill poll, might as well make it who other than savior do you want to all kill! | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
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eatmyshorts5
United States1530 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:15 Qwertify wrote: I think KTF sent out Luxury first because they want the all-kill. Why Luxury and not Flash? Maybe the coach feels more confident in Luxury because he is still in both Starleagues. Maybe. Thoughts? Luxury... for all kill? I think your logic is flawed. They would have less confidence in luxury since he's in both starleagues because he MUST be practicing for them and have you noticed that Luxury has been dropping a lot of proleague games recently? Thats because he's focusing on the starleagues. They would have much more confidence in flash cause all he is practicing for must be proleague right now. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:14 eatmyshorts5 wrote: Iris has Luxury's number and i bet CJ has been training a ton to snipe flash. Thats what they did with Jaedong. Mmm, I see. However, it is hard to snipe a player like the Rainbow Giants, J/B/F because their momentum and mechanics are so strong. Even if you plan strategies to counter their play, it can be difficult to overcome their micro/macro. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:15 Qwertify wrote: I think KTF sent out Luxury first because they want the all-kill. Why Luxury and not Flash? Maybe the coach feels more confident in Luxury because he is still in both Starleagues. Maybe. Thoughts? Yeah, and Samsung can probably count on Stork for some all-kills because he's in both leagues eh? Coaches obviously aren't going to lose faith in a player like Flash because he dropped out of individual leagues, that's ridiculous. He's 17-3 in WL.. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On March 09 2009 08:17 eatmyshorts5 wrote: Luxury... for all kill? I think your logic is flawed. They would have less confidence in luxury since he's in both starleagues because he MUST be practicing for them and have you noticed that Luxury has been dropping a lot of proleague games recently? Thats because he's focusing on the starleagues. They would have much more confidence in flash cause all he is practicing for must be proleague right now. Yeah, this is true. I forgot to consider this. | ||
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Origami
United States266 Posts
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