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[WL] CJ Entus vs KTF MagicNs - Page 3

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eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 08 2009 23:28 GMT
#41
On March 09 2009 08:27 Origami wrote:
Regardless, I will be very surprised if the second player is not Flash. Very, very surprised.

Yeah if CJ can take down Luxury and Flash they got this game.
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
March 08 2009 23:38 GMT
#42
Sorry Lux, but Nbs has to win this. CJ for 1st seed. I predict that Effort or Savior will snipe Flash when he comes out. Or Movie will snipe him with proxy dts, he's been using this very well and getting a lot of wins with this build.
KT_Violet
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
March 08 2009 23:46 GMT
#43
Flash's TvZ has been so good lately. I don't know why other Terran players don't copy his recent bio builds, because they look almost invincible.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-08 23:47:56
March 08 2009 23:47 GMT
#44
On March 09 2009 08:22 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2009 08:17 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
On March 09 2009 08:15 Qwertify wrote:
I think KTF sent out Luxury first because they want the all-kill. Why Luxury and not Flash? Maybe the coach feels more confident in Luxury because he is still in both Starleagues. Maybe. Thoughts?

Luxury... for all kill? I think your logic is flawed. They would have less confidence in luxury since he's in both starleagues because he MUST be practicing for them and have you noticed that Luxury has been dropping a lot of proleague games recently? Thats because he's focusing on the starleagues. They would have much more confidence in flash cause all he is practicing for must be proleague right now.


Yeah, this is true. I forgot to consider this.


You guys are neglecting the fact that the first map is Medusa. KTF might have wanted Flash to go for a 4-0 with Luxury as a cleaner given that Lux is in both leagues, but even though Flash is AMAZING on Medusa, it still sucks a lot to have to prepare TvP Medusa (while also in theory preparing another 3 maps). Of course, who would have thought CJ would send Nbs first instead of Movie or Much.

I'm guessing KTF is telling Lux "you gotta win first, and try to beat the sniper that comes for you second game, then we send Flash and hope for the best".
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
March 08 2009 23:49 GMT
#45
On March 09 2009 08:46 SimonB wrote:
Flash's TvZ has been so good lately. I don't know why other Terran players don't copy his recent bio builds, because they look almost invincible.


I'm under the impression that perfect bio > perfect mech, but perfect bio's difficulty > (maybe even >>) perfect mech's difficulty.
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
March 08 2009 23:53 GMT
#46
Omg I need to watch this nooooooooow
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-09 00:06:21
March 08 2009 23:54 GMT
#47
On March 09 2009 08:49 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2009 08:46 SimonB wrote:
Flash's TvZ has been so good lately. I don't know why other Terran players don't copy his recent bio builds, because they look almost invincible.


I'm under the impression that perfect bio > perfect mech, but perfect bio's difficulty > (maybe even >>) perfect mech's difficulty.

I don't know, but Flash makes it seem so easy.

When Flash was on his 12 game winning streak, a lot of people said he looked unbeatable in TvT, and indeed, he was terrific, but his style of play against Terran relies so much on game sense (IE counter drops), so if you're just a little off, you can easily lose.

On the otherhand, Flash's bio builds against Zerg just seem fairly linear and easy. I don't really know what zerg can do to counter it, but Flash has dominated every game since adopting it.

The conventional approach is to get just enough defense to hold off mutas while you tech to vessels, but Flash's approach is to tech very very late (essentially wait until zerg switches to lurkers or until mutas aren't major threat anymore), and just pump tons and tons of marines and turrets. It's working so well.
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
March 09 2009 00:07 GMT
#48
Iris or skyhigh all kill hmph ! >.<!! Go CJ!!
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
March 09 2009 00:30 GMT
#49
Iris has been showing up good for CJ lately, I hope to see him play. He usually gets a couple of kills for them. I love his terran so much, even though I hate playing against vultures... his use of them seems pretty tough.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8147 Posts
March 09 2009 00:36 GMT
#50
CJ doesn't stand a chance.
Free Palestine
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-09 00:37:42
March 09 2009 00:37 GMT
#51
On March 09 2009 08:49 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2009 08:46 SimonB wrote:
Flash's TvZ has been so good lately. I don't know why other Terran players don't copy his recent bio builds, because they look almost invincible.


I'm under the impression that perfect bio > perfect mech, but perfect bio's difficulty > (maybe even >>) perfect mech's difficulty.


Bio doesn't have a skill/perfect cap while mech certainly does. That's why amazing bio terrans are hard to kill, ala Flash.

A lot of brave souls in here betting on Luxury winning a WL match. Silly people, Luxury doesn't practice for WL lolololol. CJ simply doesn't have a very good response to Flash. Terran are pretty decent on all of these maps.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
March 09 2009 01:03 GMT
#52
Wow... KTF's MagicN's protoss record makes me want to throw up.
Graphics
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
March 09 2009 01:03 GMT
#53
@ 18:00

damn daylight saving time T.T
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
Lockon Stratos
Profile Joined February 2009
United States126 Posts
March 09 2009 01:04 GMT
#54
CJ would be retarded to send a zerg at Flash, hes been spectacular in TvZ lately. And if Jaedong can't stop him, savior or effort don't stand a chance.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
March 09 2009 01:10 GMT
#55
if nbs all kills...


ill cry
fromis_9 enjoyer
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 09 2009 01:10 GMT
#56
On March 09 2009 09:36 Ideas wrote:
CJ doesn't stand a chance.

Samething everybody said about CJ vs SKT1
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 09 2009 01:16 GMT
#57
On March 09 2009 10:10 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2009 09:36 Ideas wrote:
CJ doesn't stand a chance.

Samething everybody said about CJ vs SKT1


Yea well SKT1 sent out Mujuk and Hyuk which are basically free wins.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
March 09 2009 01:36 GMT
#58
I don't know how CJ is first in WL but certainly some people don't take that to account too much.
Xellos <3
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
March 09 2009 01:36 GMT
#59
On March 09 2009 10:16 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2009 10:10 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
On March 09 2009 09:36 Ideas wrote:
CJ doesn't stand a chance.

Samething everybody said about CJ vs SKT1


Yea well SKT1 sent out Mujuk and Hyuk which are basically free wins.

They also sent out Bisu and BeSt, and MuJuK/HyuK aren't much worse than KTF besides Flash/Luxury
Entusman #12
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 09 2009 01:39 GMT
#60
On March 09 2009 08:28 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2009 08:27 Origami wrote:
Regardless, I will be very surprised if the second player is not Flash. Very, very surprised.

Yeah if CJ can take down Luxury and Flash they got this game.


Sounds like pretty much every team who's up against KTF?
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