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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
February 25 2009 05:05 GMT
#581
On February 25 2009 14:04 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:02 Jayme wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:00 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:56 Jayme wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:54 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote:
Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal.

Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT.

Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway.


Since when is PvZ Bisu worst matchup.

This resurgence? Just revolutionizing a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup. His PvT and ESPECIALLY his PvP are better than his PvZ, as amazing as that is. His PvP is so freaking godly it makes Best look pretty scrubbish during his streak.

Edit: Kal used to have better PvZ but he's been kinda... bad lately. So you can have 1st if you want it, doesn't really change the point.


Bisu's Matchup stats (not counting today's matches)
vT: 66-43 (60.55%)
vZ: 59-31 (65.56%)
vP: 50-28 (64.10%)

His PvT is not as good as Jangbi
PvZ is currently the best
PvP is not as good as Best


Those are both incorrect imo. I mean.. he is at least as good as Jangbi in PvT if not better. PvP it's no contest, he's plain better than Best at PvP, especially right now.

Against just being the best in a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup, you didn't see some of his epic PvP's against Stork or Jangbi recently it seems. PvP is probably his best matchup.



no, he really isn't better than Jangi PvT. Jangbi's been on the top of the PvT game for YEARS. Bisu's only been called a PvT "god" very, very recently.

Jangbi's only been a top-tier player for less than a year, what are you talking about.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 25 2009 05:05 GMT
#582
On February 25 2009 14:04 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:03 Ace wrote:
Iris is always a fearful player vs anyone. He also has some super super aggressive TvP which going against Bisu's style is going to be sick to watch.



I agree ... although poor iris is facing the toss with the best micro in the world =(


yea sadly

but Iris has some crazy micro moments too, I just hope it's an early game slugfest ^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
xray333
Profile Joined January 2008
United States131 Posts
February 25 2009 05:05 GMT
#583
i want cj entus to win x-[
they haven't been doin that good since that kal all kill
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
February 25 2009 05:06 GMT
#584
On February 25 2009 14:05 xray333 wrote:
i want cj entus to win x-[
they haven't been doin that good since that kal all kill

IRIS REVIVAL.

IRIS ALL KILL MARK MY WORDS
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
xray333
Profile Joined January 2008
United States131 Posts
February 25 2009 05:06 GMT
#585
bisu scouting wrong way, 1zlot out for bisu ~~
iris scouts the right way
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 25 2009 05:06 GMT
#586
On February 25 2009 14:05 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:04 Ace wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:02 Jayme wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:00 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:56 Jayme wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:54 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote:
Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal.

Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT.

Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway.


Since when is PvZ Bisu worst matchup.

This resurgence? Just revolutionizing a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup. His PvT and ESPECIALLY his PvP are better than his PvZ, as amazing as that is. His PvP is so freaking godly it makes Best look pretty scrubbish during his streak.

Edit: Kal used to have better PvZ but he's been kinda... bad lately. So you can have 1st if you want it, doesn't really change the point.


Bisu's Matchup stats (not counting today's matches)
vT: 66-43 (60.55%)
vZ: 59-31 (65.56%)
vP: 50-28 (64.10%)

His PvT is not as good as Jangbi
PvZ is currently the best
PvP is not as good as Best


Those are both incorrect imo. I mean.. he is at least as good as Jangbi in PvT if not better. PvP it's no contest, he's plain better than Best at PvP, especially right now.

Against just being the best in a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup, you didn't see some of his epic PvP's against Stork or Jangbi recently it seems. PvP is probably his best matchup.



no, he really isn't better than Jangi PvT. Jangbi's been on the top of the PvT game for YEARS. Bisu's only been called a PvT "god" very, very recently.

Jangbi's only been a top-tier player for less than a year, what are you talking about.



:/

I said Jangb's PvT! He's ALWAYS been known for it. It's just he always sucked ass vs Z so he never got much recognition. Being top-tier for a year or not has nothing to do with how dominant he is in one matchup.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
February 25 2009 05:07 GMT
#587
On February 25 2009 14:05 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:04 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:03 Ace wrote:
Iris is always a fearful player vs anyone. He also has some super super aggressive TvP which going against Bisu's style is going to be sick to watch.



I agree ... although poor iris is facing the toss with the best micro in the world =(


yea sadly

but Iris has some crazy micro moments too, I just hope it's an early game slugfest ^_^



Thats why I think it sucks, his best micro tricks don't compare imo to bisus t.t. Iris is like the underdog terran I root for.
xray333
Profile Joined January 2008
United States131 Posts
February 25 2009 05:07 GMT
#588
On February 25 2009 14:06 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:05 xray333 wrote:
i want cj entus to win x-[
they haven't been doin that good since that kal all kill

IRIS REVIVAL.

IRIS ALL KILL MARK MY WORDS

i sure hope so :D
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
February 25 2009 05:07 GMT
#589
On February 25 2009 14:00 Nick_54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 13:56 mog87 wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:54 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote:
Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal.

Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT.

Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway.

who the fuck is better then bisu pvz?



Right now Free, his style isnt as impress with the multitasking and harrass but he just wins through brute strength and map control, Others may say Kal as well. Either way I think its fair to say there isnt really an undisputed zerg king atm.


Is this the same free who just got rolled by Oversky? What has he ever done besides beat Jaedong with help from byzantium? Beside that he cant even get far enough in a league to test his vs z in a bo series. Free would not be doing anywhere near as good as Bisu if he had the same vs z opponents.



Uh.he dropped one game to overskys weird lurker drop build, whereas Bisu lost 0-2 to by.hero, and lost in an all zerg group. He beat JD yes, as well as other stronger opponents earlier in the season, not to mention savior in GOM. Besides JD what other zergs can you really brag about? Other than the oversky game, I only recall him losing to Saint earlier in the season when saint was playing pretty well, and saint is a competent ZvP player.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
February 25 2009 05:08 GMT
#590
On February 25 2009 14:06 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:05 Jyvblamo wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:04 Ace wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:02 Jayme wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:00 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:56 Jayme wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:54 LunarDestiny wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote:
Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal.

Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT.

Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway.


Since when is PvZ Bisu worst matchup.

This resurgence? Just revolutionizing a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup. His PvT and ESPECIALLY his PvP are better than his PvZ, as amazing as that is. His PvP is so freaking godly it makes Best look pretty scrubbish during his streak.

Edit: Kal used to have better PvZ but he's been kinda... bad lately. So you can have 1st if you want it, doesn't really change the point.


Bisu's Matchup stats (not counting today's matches)
vT: 66-43 (60.55%)
vZ: 59-31 (65.56%)
vP: 50-28 (64.10%)

His PvT is not as good as Jangbi
PvZ is currently the best
PvP is not as good as Best


Those are both incorrect imo. I mean.. he is at least as good as Jangbi in PvT if not better. PvP it's no contest, he's plain better than Best at PvP, especially right now.

Against just being the best in a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup, you didn't see some of his epic PvP's against Stork or Jangbi recently it seems. PvP is probably his best matchup.



no, he really isn't better than Jangi PvT. Jangbi's been on the top of the PvT game for YEARS. Bisu's only been called a PvT "god" very, very recently.

Jangbi's only been a top-tier player for less than a year, what are you talking about.



:/

I said Jangb's PvT! He's ALWAYS been known for it. It's just he always sucked ass vs Z so he never got much recognition. Being top-tier for a year or not has nothing to do with how dominant he is in one matchup.



JangBi NEVER sucked ass vs. Z.... He's over 60% vs. Z. PvP is his worst matchup. And that's also the reason he hasn't won a title yet.

"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
February 25 2009 05:08 GMT
#591
just got back.

huh i expected iris to do a 2 fact xD
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
February 25 2009 05:08 GMT
#592
Hmmm it seems like Winner's league and the lucky Batoo Wildcard is making Bisu's ELO a blind stat in a way
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
February 25 2009 05:08 GMT
#593
(P)Bisu ATTACKS
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CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
February 25 2009 05:09 GMT
#594
On February 25 2009 14:04 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:04 konadora wrote:
On February 25 2009 14:01 rushz0rz wrote:
WOW... IntoTheRainBOw highlights for once!!!!

Who's got that game vs. Midas?


It was part of the all_finals VOD pack, uploaded on the tracker.


Sweet. Thanks.

Is this it: MSL_All_Finals ?


Should be this. SPL_AllFinals
It's around 11GB, but that game's folder is MTL_2004_Tucson_SKT1_vs_GO, game 2.
POGGERS
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 25 2009 05:09 GMT
#595
For anyone that cares about the game.

Iris went 1 fac expand with Bisu going reavers.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
February 25 2009 05:09 GMT
#596
shit goon missed on flat land
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 25 2009 05:09 GMT
#597
On February 25 2009 14:07 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 14:00 Nick_54 wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:56 mog87 wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:54 AttackZerg wrote:
On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote:
Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal.

Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT.

Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway.

who the fuck is better then bisu pvz?



Right now Free, his style isnt as impress with the multitasking and harrass but he just wins through brute strength and map control, Others may say Kal as well. Either way I think its fair to say there isnt really an undisputed zerg king atm.


Is this the same free who just got rolled by Oversky? What has he ever done besides beat Jaedong with help from byzantium? Beside that he cant even get far enough in a league to test his vs z in a bo series. Free would not be doing anywhere near as good as Bisu if he had the same vs z opponents.



Uh.he dropped one game to overskys weird lurker drop build, whereas Bisu lost 0-2 to by.hero, and lost in an all zerg group. He beat JD yes, as well as other stronger opponents earlier in the season, not to mention savior in GOM. Besides JD what other zergs can you really brag about? Other than the oversky game, I only recall him losing to Saint earlier in the season when saint was playing pretty well, and saint is a competent ZvP player.


You missed the most important match where he defeats the ZvP god, Julyzerg.
xray333
Profile Joined January 2008
United States131 Posts
February 25 2009 05:10 GMT
#598
iris expo's bisu is going reavs
bisu just put down his nexus @ his nat.
bisu's reavers' out ;P, but iris put mines in his main cuz he's sexy like dat
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
February 25 2009 05:10 GMT
#599
I swear some of you guys in this thread argue really stupid shit just because you have nothing better to do. What is with all of the stupid 'bisu is this, bisu is that' opinions tonight ...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-25 05:11:12
February 25 2009 05:10 GMT
#600
Iris playing safe with turrets and mines. Easily fends off the reaver drop.

Edit: IRIS' VULTURES ENTER BISU'S MAIN, KILLS PROBES, SEES CITADEL TECH, KILLS A GOON TOO.
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