On February 25 2009 13:55 exkgb wrote:
so, if his PvZ is 2nd best in the world, who has the best PvZ? free? kal?
so, if his PvZ is 2nd best in the world, who has the best PvZ? free? kal?
Nal_rA, of course.
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QibingZero
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On February 25 2009 13:55 exkgb wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote: Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal. Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT. Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway. so, if his PvZ is 2nd best in the world, who has the best PvZ? free? kal? Nal_rA, of course. | ||
Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:54 LunarDestiny wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote: Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal. Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT. Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway. Since when is PvZ Bisu worst matchup. This resurgence? Just revolutionizing a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup. His PvT and ESPECIALLY his PvP are better than his PvZ, as amazing as that is. His PvP is so freaking godly it makes Best look pretty scrubbish during his streak. Edit: Kal used to have better PvZ but he's been kinda... bad lately. So you can have 1st if you want it, doesn't really change the point. | ||
Mooncat
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:55 Atrioc wrote: WHAT IS THE SECRET OF THE 13013? no idea but that commercial with him looking in the mirror scared me | ||
Yaqoob
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StalinRusH
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Fontong
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:56 mog87 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2009 13:54 AttackZerg wrote: On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote: Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal. Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT. Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway. who the fuck is better then bisu pvz? Right now Free, his style isnt as impress with the multitasking and harrass but he just wins through brute strength and map control, Others may say Kal as well. Either way I think its fair to say there isnt really an undisputed zerg king atm. I think anybody who doesn't believe that bisu is the strongest protoss against zerg in the history of the game is a fucking retard... Free isn't a champion zerg slayer but yes very solid. Kal can beat jaedong but not average zergs (weird). Just because a protoss can beat jaedong doesn't make them the best PvZ in the world. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:57 Yaqoob wrote: Who are they saving for RH3 if this fails? Darkelf? Memory? Skyhigh? sKyHigh, but I think the idea is that Iris will win and can then play a TvT. Honestly, at this point I don't see anyone stopping Bisu until RH3. | ||
5tarscream
Singapore459 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:51 rushz0rz wrote: I want to see Kwanro next, and then Savior. 3 CJ zergs getting raped in one night would be awesome. LOL if that happens, it like a WTFpwnage from a Protoss. | ||
IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:56 Mooncat wrote: Damn... Even Kwanro would have been a better choice than Iris. Neo Harmony is a freakin 72.7% favored towards Z... but if iris wins he has a good chance to win the rush hour match as well which would be hard for kwanro | ||
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Mooncat
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:56 Jayme wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2009 13:54 LunarDestiny wrote: On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote: Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal. Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT. Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway. Since when is PvZ Bisu worst matchup. This resurgence? Just revolutionizing a matchup doesn't make it your best matchup. His PvT and ESPECIALLY his PvP are better than his PvZ, as amazing as that is. His PvP is so freaking godly it makes Best look pretty scrubbish during his streak. Edit: Kal used to have better PvZ but he's been kinda... bad lately. So you can have 1st if you want it, doesn't really change the point. Bisu's Matchup stats (not counting today's matches) vT: 66-43 (60.55%) vZ: 59-31 (65.56%) vP: 50-28 (64.10%) His PvT is not as good as Jangbi PvZ is currently the best PvP is not as good as Best | ||
Kentor
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:56 mog87 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2009 13:54 AttackZerg wrote: On February 25 2009 13:52 Jayme wrote: Well sending a Terran or Protoss without a special build against Bisu is pretty suicidal. Bisu's worst matchup is PvZ and by "worst" I mean like still 2nd best in the world but not as unstoppable as his PvP or PvT. Edit: I agree about Effort being slightly overrated. He's not quite as godly as some people seem to think... yet anyway. who the fuck is better then bisu pvz? Right now Free, his style isnt as impress with the multitasking and harrass but he just wins through brute strength and map control, Others may say Kal as well. Either way I think its fair to say there isnt really an undisputed zerg king atm. Is this the same free who just got rolled by Oversky? What has he ever done besides beat Jaedong with help from byzantium? Beside that he cant even get far enough in a league to test his vs z in a bo series. Free would not be doing anywhere near as good as Bisu if he had the same vs z opponents. | ||
mog87
United States1586 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:55 Matoo- wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2009 13:47 eatmyshorts5 wrote: On February 25 2009 13:45 rushz0rz wrote: On February 25 2009 13:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Especially considering FlaSh and Jaedong are better than Bisu, yeah Bisu is definitely not Bonjwa. Never seen someone be so wrong... Maybe Jaedong... MAYBE... but Flash? FLASH? You are retarded.... Flash is way better than Bisu but if flash wasn't in school and his team didn't suck mabye he could be destorying both starleagues. Yeah and if Boxer didn't go to the army and if Boxer wasn't nearly 30 and if blabla he would'be raping left right and center right now. Bisu's current form >>>>>> anyone's current form, including JD and Flash. Your analogy isnt very good, and your statement about current forms is incorrect, as Bisu as evidenced Bisu also initially failed to make top 16 in both starleagues. And Flash literally does have to carry his team which caused him to forgo practicing for important starleague matches. And lastly who cares about stupid terms like bonjwa or the even more useless ELO, all 3 are damned good. Except Flash and JD, dont fuck up seedings and try to give themselves easy groups and then lose, but they are all exceptional players. | ||
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eatmyshorts5
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