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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 10 2009 10:07 GMT
#341
On February 10 2009 19:02 404.Nintu wrote:
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On February 10 2009 18:59 Shikyo wrote:
On February 10 2009 18:56 404.Nintu wrote:
On February 10 2009 18:52 ZoW wrote:
Holy crap effort is good... he saw that small opening nada left and just went all out ...

T_T Savior vs nada will have to wait


On February 10 2009 18:51 Shikyo wrote:
Really, really good play by Effort.


On February 10 2009 18:54 Ash wrote:
holy fucking shit ... effort is good. CJ is a sick team in this format


Guys, I hate to break it to you, but countering an empty Terran natural when Terran moves out is a D+ level play. Don't get your panties in a knot. Nada simply made an EXTREMELY silly mistake. That didn't make Effort good, it made Nada temporarily bad.

Efforts mutalisk harrass was really good, and the counter's timing was good as well, as well as everything else, as was his macro and drone timing, as was his hatchery timing and defense of the expansion. Yawn.


Effort's mutalisk harrass was progamer level. Nothing above. The build was good and well executed and the defense of the expansion was also strong.

That being said, winning the game the way he did simply didn't display anything spectacular to warrant such comments. He didn't do anything special, he just abused a huge mistake by Nada.

Actually, the muta harrass was better than many progamers I've seen. In any case, it's silly to assume I'd judge the game just by the moment he won the game, although that was really well performed as well. And it definitely warrants such comments in my opinion.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
epjx31
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United Kingdom324 Posts
February 10 2009 10:07 GMT
#342
eh what happpen,

They said roro's brother died or something, is that true?

Mind for OSL!
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 10 2009 10:08 GMT
#343
orange vs yellow is ugh, please red/green them mbc
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
February 10 2009 10:09 GMT
#344
roro forgot about the 3 lings by the temple?
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 10 2009 10:09 GMT
#345
On February 10 2009 19:06 404.Nintu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2009 19:02 SimonB wrote:
On February 10 2009 18:56 404.Nintu wrote:
On February 10 2009 18:52 ZoW wrote:
Holy crap effort is good... he saw that small opening nada left and just went all out ...

T_T Savior vs nada will have to wait


On February 10 2009 18:51 Shikyo wrote:
Really, really good play by Effort.


On February 10 2009 18:54 Ash wrote:
holy fucking shit ... effort is good. CJ is a sick team in this format


Guys, I hate to break it to you, but countering an empty Terran natural when Terran moves out is a D+ level play. Don't get your panties in a knot. Nada simply made an EXTREMELY silly mistake. That didn't make Effort good, it made Nada temporarily bad.

I don't see it that way. I think Nada realized he was taking a risk, but he probably thought he had to since he was up against 4 base hive zerg still with almost all his mutalisks.

Did Effort even see that Nada moved almost his entire army toward the bottom left corner? It looked to me like Nada tried to get out as quickly as he can so he wouldn't be seen. Effort might have just gotten phenomenally lucky to attack at just the right time.


There were a few issues. He got supply stuck. He was probably relying on fresh troops to enforce his defense and it turned out he got supply stuck.

If Effort didn't see Nada move out, then he was extremely lucky. If he did see Nada move out, it wouldn't take a progamer to see that as a time to attack.

He was against 3 gas fast hive, no lurkers. Which means there is a huge timing to push. Nada got supply stuck and moved out at a silly time and lost his main.


The timing against the haran build (Mutalisk into Ultra) is not easy to hit. Especially on Andromeda where bases are far apart its really hard for Terran to use the small timing window you have. I'm not saying this because I'm a NaDa fanboy. He clearly made the wrong decision with moving out and leaving nothing behind. He could have stayed in his base and maybe abuse drops and tanks on his cliff to defend against ultra. I don't know.

EffOrt won because he played better and with less mistakes. GG.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
February 10 2009 10:09 GMT
#346
Faster lair for Roro, Effort has hatch at nat
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 10 2009 10:10 GMT
#347
yellow getting more lings than orange, orange gets a sunken in base as response and uses lings to surround his spire for defense
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
February 10 2009 10:10 GMT
#348
EffOrt doing what Jaedong does usually.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
February 10 2009 10:12 GMT
#349
rofl roro is about to get raped... hard
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
February 10 2009 10:12 GMT
#350
Seemingly ridiculous difference in skill levels this game
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 10 2009 10:12 GMT
#351
orange has a lot of mutas but weak econ, yellow has spores and strong econ
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 10 2009 10:13 GMT
#352
So....why did RorO spend all of his time chasing zerglings around the middle of the map when he could have been dancing in and out of spore fire and devastating EffOrt's economy? Seems like he just waited around to die.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 10 2009 10:13 GMT
#353
roro only has like 3 drones left lol. looks like he's screwed
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 10 2009 10:13 GMT
#354
roro should just GG, he has 2 drones and effort has 2 basess and probably 20 drones
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
February 10 2009 10:14 GMT
#355
terrible, terrible effort by roro
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
February 10 2009 10:14 GMT
#356
WTFFFF
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
February 10 2009 10:14 GMT
#357
Haha sweet play from effort, 3 spores at each base, roro can't come back in a million years with his 3 or 4 drones.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 10 2009 10:15 GMT
#358
RorO has 2 drones...type out already man T_T
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 10 2009 10:15 GMT
#359
actually roro's strategy may be to simply wear out effort so mind can beat him
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 10 2009 10:15 GMT
#360
RorO has decided to help EffOrt stay warm for the next game.
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