Poll: Who do you want to all-kill? (Vote): Fox: Nada (Vote): Fox: Mind (Vote): Fox: keke (Vote): OGN: YellOw[ArnC] (Vote): OGN: Leta (Vote): OGN: Horang2 (Vote): Not: go.go
Here's hoping Horang2 gets some action. Although with his MSL group tonight that seems more unlikely than ever. Gogo OGN anyway, give me a reason to not trade you for ACE in Fantasy PL.
(I still voted for Nada in the poll despite having Horang2 and OGN on my fantasy team, what's wrong with me )
its Lee Yoon Yeol i think. Any ways Its hard for wemade, hero will loose the first game then mind wins a couple the loses then shine comes and wins and loses and so on and on and on......... i just hope WeMade friking wins this shit!
On February 07 2009 12:40 Apex wrote: Gogo Mind for the reverse all-kill! Odds are OGN is going to win though with Leta and all. :[
Mind is only player on wemade with the ability to take leta straight up, if that game happens id say odds are 50/50 down the middle impossible to call.
Ohh dropship is coming for go.go but stops short on seeing hero's pylon picket line.
go.go is successfully denying Hero's 3rd base with good vulture play while he takes his own. Nex and CC go down at about the same time. Vulture play around the map is really restricting heros movement.
go.go has a pretty solid force going now, looks like about 8 tanks moving out into between the two bases. go.go drops the nat of hero! he takes out some probes and uses the opportunity of hero's army being distracted to advance his tanks
^^your stream is a lot behind mine lol, like 1-2 mins....
SOMEHOW Hero dodges gollies with great drops and kills off a large part of go.go's army again, this reaver play is art! go.go being forced farther and farther back, this is a great turn around.
i'm speechless hero played really well but somehow go.go manages to kill he's army and win this one. that gg was totally unexpected
Yeah, the proxy was totally failed and losing 2 shuttles and 2 reavers withound doing any damage isn't .. well .. good. The 3rd reaver did a REALLY good job.
Edit: yeah that was possibly one of the most unexpected GGs I've ever seen lol. Hero was play very well and I'm 90% sure he would have won had he not done stupid shit like put his gates/core in the middle of the map. That was just massively stupid since nothing ever came of it and he just lost them for free.
Hero also lost 2 reavers for free in the beginning and then failed a bulldog to try and kill go.go right there. I'm pretty sure he also cut probes to actually get that bulldog going too.
His speedzeals were basically nonexistant by the end as well, that definitely wasn't good.
GoGo also pulled Scvs out at the end. It seems like he was trying to be bad mannered with them since they appeared to be going to the main of Hero not to do anything like block dragoons.
It is 8:30pm here. :D Perfect starcraft watching time. I'm unhappy about this TvT though hehe.
Watching the replay, Hero was LOW LOW LOW on probes. When go.go killed some with harass his economy was in literally terrible condition. That explains the GG.
And WOW go.go is so bm. I thought he was maynarding SCVs out of his main to his 3rd at the end but instead he was using them to attack... bm even after Hero fought a tough fight just to get back in the game.
go.go is moving out now with many vults. nada has a lot too, im not sure what his plan is. this is kind of annoying that the observer is only fousing on Nada's base and not so much on go.go's.
Seige mode standoff between the two player's bases. Nada has a significant advantage in tank number now, gogo didn't tank advantage of vulture mobility when he had nly about a million of them. go.go has his 3rd CC up now while nada does not.
Nada is coming to do a drop on Gogos main! He is now elevatoring units in with 2 dropships! He has a good positions established but gogo is moving into Nada's nat with a large force Nada drops units on it and kills some tanks, should hold that off. Gogo lost a lot of buildings.
go.go seige up outside the small entrance of Nada's nat. This is looking pretty over. Despite the damage nada did to go.go's economy, he was just mining from more bases for longer.
go.go trying to maynard to his 5th at 11:30 but the worker AI is confused due to the temple.
Nada pushes back the tanks at his nat but he is semi contained.
OH go.go is pushing in with a large force + dships. He is now hitting the nat of nada. Wow nada manages to push him back using dropship play.
It is a big problem for nada now that he is a base down.
edit: actually i take that back because go.go might now be mining from his 3rd due to seiged tanks hitting the minline, not sure though. Nada trying to take a 4th but go.go denied it with dropship play.
yes observer confirms that gogo is only on 3 base 4 gas.
On February 07 2009 14:02 Fontong wrote: edit: actually i take that back because go.go might now be mining from his 3rd due to seiged tanks hitting the minline, not sure though. Nada trying to take a 4th but go.go denied it with dropship play.
Yes. Nada is playing on one mining base Go.go has two. (he took 6o clock)
oh no... wemade, you're gonna let go.go allkill you...? AND WHY THE HECK ARE WE 3 MATCHES IN IN BOTH MATCHES AND NO Z'S? what a useless WL day, worst WL day ever thus far.
Can anyone tell me why Nada took such a late 3rd? He had the advantage in tank numbers in the early game after gogo fudged an attack so why didn't he expand then?
anyone who is better at starcraft than me...why does pure suck now? What is he lacking that he had before? Bad decision making, bad mechanics? What is he doing wrong?
On February 07 2009 14:25 Dazed_Spy wrote: anyone who is better at starcraft than me...why does pure suck now? What is he lacking that he had before? Bad decision making, bad mechanics? What is he doing wrong?
TBH he never was too good. Just overhype, like, say, Lucifer.
On February 07 2009 14:25 Dazed_Spy wrote: anyone who is better at starcraft than me...why does pure suck now? What is he lacking that he had before? Bad decision making, bad mechanics? What is he doing wrong?
TBH he never was too good. Just overhype, like, say, Lucifer.
the difference is that Pure was actually destroying people for a while in the middle of 2008
On February 07 2009 14:25 Dazed_Spy wrote: anyone who is better at starcraft than me...why does pure suck now? What is he lacking that he had before? Bad decision making, bad mechanics? What is he doing wrong?
TBH he never was too good. Just overhype, like, say, Lucifer.
Errr...yeah he was good. Lucifer was doing cheesy strategies. Pure was playing completely standard and demolishing everyone.
Edit: proxy gateway leaves pure ahead, if idra has taught tl one thing, it is that proxy gate is imba
On February 07 2009 14:25 Dazed_Spy wrote: anyone who is better at starcraft than me...why does pure suck now? What is he lacking that he had before? Bad decision making, bad mechanics? What is he doing wrong?
TBH he never was too good. Just overhype, like, say, Lucifer.
This is so wrong, Pure was very good on Shinhan Prolegue 08. Acording to tlpd he was the best with a 14-4 record. Maybe he wasnt that good but just overhype? nope.
Pure has great mechanics excellent reaction time(watch his replays) who knows why he blows now. Whats up with Jaehoon though, was he ever good...all he does is lose. But hopefully pure will come back in form, he is a protoss player I really liked, as someone put it he has an elegant style.
On February 07 2009 14:47 mog87 wrote: ok just as i posted pure is now handling go.go...GoGo's pvt is lacking like his friend fbh.
Well he had a short flash of brilliance put the economy advantage is really showing for go.go right now. He has kills tons of probes and is on even bases. Pure just hasn't been able to bass up a really good army yet to contend with him.
On February 07 2009 14:56 Fontong wrote: Good god, someone else LR this TvT please.
I'll LR this.
Hopefully it ends up being a shorter than usual TvT.
I hope it's shorter, I might report on some parts of it, but then again i might also walk away in the middle of it. TvT's can be so boring, especially on the current macro maps
man, those wraiths are getting their value in in terms of kills, I thin kthey've gotten 12 or so scv kills. Mind has had his expo up for slightly longer, so he should be able to replace his scv count faster, but it's going to be close. I think that gogo's tank count is slightly higher as well right now, so it all comes down to how much time gogo gives mind.
gogo gets his own expansion up as well, and he has more scv's to saturate it
On February 07 2009 15:16 GHOSTCLAW wrote: man, those wraiths are getting their value in in terms of kills, I thin kthey've gotten 12 or so scv kills. Mind has had his expo up for slightly longer, so he should be able to replace his scv count faster, but it's going to be close. I think that gogo's tank count is slightly higher as well right now, so it all comes down to how much time gogo gives mind.
gogo gets his own expansion up as well, and he has more scv's to saturate it
mind's left with 2 or 3 gol, that also has range. He has about 12 scv's at his main, and probaly about 8 at his nat at this point. Mind is really far behind, i'm not sure what he can do to catch up.
If go.go all-kills I think the WeMade Fox making the playoffs thread should be immediately destroyed. I don't think there is any way that FOX can come back from this period, with Leta and Yarnc coming up.
Watching the replay after the game the observers show that Gogo saw Mind's scv going to a weird location. So a bit careless by Mind since I assume Gogo knew where Mind's start location was.
my dear idra: i know ure ugly, dont be mad my little hydralisk. anyway yellow is retired from progaming and playing poker, and reach is on ace (at least he plays on tv sometimes). Ure taking care of cj baths and estro had to give ur pro license by the face to take u away (couse they know u sux). PD: if toss doesnt exist and zerg havent ultras ull be top1 for sure
On February 07 2009 15:55 Mayday wrote: my dear idra: i know ure ugly, dont be mad my little hydralisk. anyway yellow is retired from progaming and playing poker, and reach is on ace (at least he plays on tv sometimes). Ure taking care of cj baths and estro had to give ur pro license by the face to take u away (couse they know u sux). PD: if toss doesnt exist and zerg havent ultras ull be top1 for sure
YellOw is in Ace sorry. When you try to insult at least make sure all of your insults are covered.
On February 07 2009 15:55 Mayday wrote: my dear idra: i know ure ugly, dont be mad my little hydralisk. anyway yellow is retired from progaming and playing poker, and reach is on ace (at least he plays on tv sometimes). Ure taking care of cj baths and estro had to give ur pro license by the face to take u away (couse they know u sux). PD: if toss doesnt exist and zerg havent ultras ull be top1 for sure
YellOw is in Ace sorry. When you try to insult at least make sure all of your insults are covered.
been retired is an insult? i dont care what yellow is doing with his life, its just that idra's attitude is wrong. Hes an ass, and if ure savior or smtg like that, ok, but talking like hes god when he cannot make his pro license by his own is a strange thing. Btw bisu is good looking why dont u name him?
On February 07 2009 15:55 Mayday wrote: my dear idra: i know ure ugly, dont be mad my little hydralisk. anyway yellow is retired from progaming and playing poker, and reach is on ace (at least he plays on tv sometimes). Ure taking care of cj baths and estro had to give ur pro license by the face to take u away (couse they know u sux). PD: if toss doesnt exist and zerg havent ultras ull be top1 for sure
What a terrible attempt at an insult.
Like seriously... I'm not saying this because I like IdrA. But you could've been a bit more creative.
On February 07 2009 16:06 FearDarkness wrote: Has a Protoss All-killed yet? I really want a protoss to all-kill especially in this era, even though i'm a Terran player.
I don't think so..GuemChi came very close to all-killing OGN but apparently he promised his dying father that he would not build any cannons in PvT, and so he fell short..
On February 07 2009 15:55 Mayday wrote: my dear idra: i know ure ugly, dont be mad my little hydralisk. anyway yellow is retired from progaming and playing poker, and reach is on ace (at least he plays on tv sometimes). Ure taking care of cj baths and estro had to give ur pro license by the face to take u away (couse they know u sux). PD: if toss doesnt exist and zerg havent ultras ull be top1 for sure
YellOw is in Ace sorry. When you try to insult at least make sure all of your insults are covered.
been retired is an insult? i dont care what yellow is doing with his life, its just that idra's attitude is wrong. Hes an ass, and if ure savior or smtg like that, ok, but talking like hes god when he cannot make his pro license by his own is a strange thing. Btw bisu is good looking why dont u name him?
I love it when I just know a guy's gonna get banned, and then he does.
On February 07 2009 15:55 Mayday wrote: my dear idra: i know ure ugly, dont be mad my little hydralisk. anyway yellow is retired from progaming and playing poker, and reach is on ace (at least he plays on tv sometimes). Ure taking care of cj baths and estro had to give ur pro license by the face to take u away (couse they know u sux). PD: if toss doesnt exist and zerg havent ultras ull be top1 for sure
YellOw is in Ace sorry. When you try to insult at least make sure all of your insults are covered.
been retired is an insult? i dont care what yellow is doing with his life, its just that idra's attitude is wrong. Hes an ass, and if ure savior or smtg like that, ok, but talking like hes god when he cannot make his pro license by his own is a strange thing. Btw bisu is good looking why dont u name him?
I love it when I just know a guy's gonna get banned, and then he does.
I didnt love when someone suck another man dick just because hes good at one game.
On February 07 2009 15:55 Mayday wrote: my dear idra: i know ure ugly, dont be mad my little hydralisk. anyway yellow is retired from progaming and playing poker, and reach is on ace (at least he plays on tv sometimes). Ure taking care of cj baths and estro had to give ur pro license by the face to take u away (couse they know u sux). PD: if toss doesnt exist and zerg havent ultras ull be top1 for sure
What a terrible attempt at an insult.
Like seriously... I'm not saying this because I like IdrA. But you could've been a bit more creative.
and no liquibet for this one either? Who is resposible for liquibet, i know we got it for free, and we shouldnt complain but so many PL games are missing, that it hurts. Or i just missed them somehow?
On February 07 2009 18:45 Geo.Rion wrote: and no liquibet for this one either? Who is resposible for liquibet, i know we got it for free, and we shouldnt complain but so many PL games are missing, that it hurts. Or i just missed them somehow?
You just love to complain don't you.
I bet your sense of humor's bad too(lame tl.net inside joke, dont get all mad)
did the god gene attached to the ugly gene just activate in all the star players or something? wtf is with these all kills by the 2 ugliest terrans on the planet ;d i also used to hate both of them and i guess i still do. ugly bastards.
Ok, quick question. Why did 3/4 Wemade players do stupid cheesy shit that epic failed? Hero fucking proxied his core/gate on Colosseum which was useless. Pure did proxy gate that did no damage. Mind did double proxy raxes which he canceled once they were scouted.
It really makes no sense to me. All three of those players definitely could have beaten go.go in a straight up game. Pure was even playing him on Destination which is P>T. Pure isn't what he used to be but he is by no means a bad player at all. Hero displayed some great reaver play which almost brought him back into the game, what if he had done that without the failed rush? And wtf MIND of all people does not need to cheese against go.go
Someone please explain this to me...
On February 08 2009 04:07 Jaeden wrote: I thought the OP was tryin` to be funny with the results :|
That would have been a terrible joke in bad taste by me.
That's a rather formidable list of players that go.go just defeated. Of course, all the fox players have had better days, but that doesn't mean beating players like Mind and Nada is worth anything less.
On February 08 2009 05:09 Fontong wrote: Ok, quick question. Why did 3/4 Wemade players do stupid cheesy shit that epic failed? Hero fucking proxied his core/gate on Colosseum which was useless. Pure did proxy gate that did no damage. Mind did double proxy raxes which he canceled once they were scouted.
It really makes no sense to me. All three of those players definitely could have beaten go.go in a straight up game. Pure was even playing him on Destination which is P>T. Pure isn't what he used to be but he is by no means a bad player at all. Hero displayed some great reaver play which almost brought him back into the game, what if he had done that without the failed rush? And wtf MIND of all people does not need to cheese against go.go
I was going to ask the same. Times like these you really wonder what the hell got into the coaches...putting their player up with builds like those? It's the reason you have coaches that you don't get your whole team's ass handed to you by a fag.
Failed build from Hero. Pure's game was even more ridiculous. Failed proxy, losing 3rd expo to vultures only. Two completely pointless recalls that let gogo push right into his nat. Seriously why the fuck would you recall while gogo's entire army's still stuck at home? Pure played such a bad game I almost felt he deserved that bm cc in his nat.
Mind seriously did not need to fucking proxy. Poor Nada was slumping so hard he got outplayed the entire game. What a great day for wemade fans.
Let's not get carried away. Go.go is a very competent player. He has displayed great skill in TvT before especially. A very memorable game against Flash for example, when flash was on fire. Gogo adjusted to Flash's tendency to overexpand and cut scvs for a very strong 6 fact push with many vults + tanks and a few gols. Was a very smart and well executed game plan.
On February 08 2009 10:57 Zozma wrote: Why does everyone hate go.go?
He's BM, and his ugliness doesn't help his cause. But it's more people find his ugliness as another excuse to hate him, they don't hate him because he's ugly.