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Predictions:
 Stork > Kal
This is a real tossup for me since both are amazing PvP but I'm going with Stork
 firebathero <  July
This is out of pure fanboyism but firebathero will probably win 
oDin < Calm
Calm is the more tried and tested player of the two so good luck to him
JangBi > Hwasin
I have no faith in Hwasin anymore and Jangbi is playing phenomenal.
ACE: Stork < Kal
Stork has another game tonight but it's PvP so it wouldn't be terrible for him to play another game. Either him or FBH. STX will have either Kal or July.
STX 3-2
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United States3824 Posts
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FBH + TvZ twice a week
awesome
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This should be crazy :D cant wait GO STX~!
Stork < KaL (Stork just cant beat the shank toss -_^)
FBH < July (Just no)
oDin < Calm (calms got a pretty good zvz)
JangBi > Hwasin (just cause someone will lose a game and hwasin is getting shit on lately)
JangBi < July (julys best mu and the odds are good to play vs a Toss and if they pick FBH he has a greater chance to win then everyone else besides maybe calm)
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
I think Khan will win 3-1, dropping the 3rd set.
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I really love July, but it's hard to imagine July beating the best TvZer on earth ATM. Especially since he has only won 2 KESPA-sanction TvZ since April.
STX will probably play either July or Kal in the ace match and Khan will play Jangbi or FBH. It will prob be Kal > FBH, Jangbi > Kal, July > Jangbi, or FBH > July. I think STX will most likely play July and count on KHAN sending out Jangbi/Stork, since Medusa is such a death trap for Terrens. But if KHAN wants to risk sending FBH on Medusa, they might luck out and July/Calm gets chosen.
Calm has been playing phenomenal ZvT lately, so a Calm/FBH ace match would be awesome also.
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Hope July sits on FBH if he wins
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Stork
FBH
Calm
Jangbi
Jangbi>Kal for ace.
The usual suspects.
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july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh
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3 - 0 Could go both ways. But of course STX hwaiting.
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Exciting games.
minus odin vs calm, obviously.
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On December 28 2008 07:49 mrgerry wrote:Predictions: ACE: JangBi < KalThey won't use Stork again since he has another game tonight so since it's Medusa I'd expect them to be using their Protoss players. STX 3-2
Jangbi play in gom tonight too. If it goes to ace it'll probably be FBH v. Kal, in which case I think it's a tossup. I really think Samsung will win 3-1 though, with Calm winning for STX.
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On December 28 2008 07:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Stork
FBH
Calm
Jangbi
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United States12607 Posts
Kal
FBH
Calm
Hwasin, I hate JangBi
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Should be some good games,
On December 28 2008 10:31 jwd241224 wrote:
Kal
FBH
Calm
Hwasin, I hate JangBi
is what I'm hoping withing realistic bounds (no way July is beating FBH), but I think NoTestosteroneToss will win and the ace match will either be Kal vs Stork or Kal vs Jangbi. Should be good games!
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On December 28 2008 09:37 tKd_ wrote:
july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh
when july is playing well there is no player better
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Stork < Kal
FBH> July
Odin< Calm
Jangbi> Hwasin
Jangbi> Kal
3-2 Khan.
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On December 28 2008 10:54 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 09:37 tKd_ wrote:
july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh when july is playing well there is no player better
Jaedong, Savior, Flash, Bisu
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Stork v Kal
Kal is too inconsistent, and Stork is playing very well atm, also, stork has better overall pvp.
FBH v July
July won his golden mouse then went on a 6 month siesta at White Castle, FBH will rape.
Odin v Calm
Calm is the better Zerg overall imo, he should take this one.
Jangbi v Hwasin
Jangbi is probably the best PvT toss player out there and Hwasin isint a great TvP player. Jangbi should take this.
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On December 28 2008 11:01 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
Stork v Kal
Kal is too inconsistent, and Stork is playing very well atm, also, stork has better overall pvp.
FBH v July
July won his golden mouse then went on a 6 month siesta at White Castle, FBH will rape.
Odin v Calm
Calm is the better Zerg overall imo, he should take this one.
Jangbi v Hwasin
Jangbi is probably the best PvT toss player out there and Hwasin isint a great TvP player. Jangbi should take this.
One thing very consistent about Kal is his ability to thrash Stork. Honestly, anyone who thinks Stork is going to beat Kal, has not payed attention to the Stork/Kal rivalry.
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On December 28 2008 10:54 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 09:37 tKd_ wrote:
july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh when july is playing well there is no player better
except pepe
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Why the fuck would they send July out on Sin Chupung-Ryeong? His ZvT is really terrible at the moment and it's a good map for Terrans to begin with.
July should be used exclusively for sniping Protoss players until he gets his ZvT working again.
I love July, but he doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell vs FBH.
3-1 for Khan.
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Well, July has 1/3 chance of getting FBH as opposed to Stork or Jangbi. Khan players are pretty versatile when it comes to maps. FBH could've easily have played on Harmony instead.
This is hard to judge, because Kal is so inconsistent you just can't predict his games. If he loses to Stork, this one's over for STX. If he wins and we go to ace, I expect Jangbi vs. Kal or a zerg, in which case it's very hard to determine the winner.
One thing to note is that both Jangbi and Stork have GOM after this. So I think if the match lasts too long, FBH might be the only ace possibility left because of schedule conflicts.
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Didn't notice Jangbi had a game as well, hmmm they might send either of them out there anyways. Stork is playing PvP against Backho tonight so extra practice isn't a bad thing :D I'll update prediction for Stork in ACE 
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if it goes to ace, khan will have to send a P since it's medusa. Kal has 11-1 stats on this map btw
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July is 7-7 this PL. Not bad old timer.
Considering how terrible his ZvT is... really nice old timer.
Doing better than so many big name zergs.
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On December 28 2008 11:41 SuperJongMan wrote:
July is 7-7 this PL. Not bad old timer.
Considering how terrible his ZvT is... really nice old timer.
Doing better than so many big name zergs.
July is on a 5 game winning streak in PL right now.
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On December 28 2008 11:47 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 11:41 SuperJongMan wrote:
July is 7-7 this PL. Not bad old timer.
Considering how terrible his ZvT is... really nice old timer.
Doing better than so many big name zergs. July is on a 5 game winning streak in PL right now.
Where do you two get your data?
July is 7-4 this PL and on a 4 game streak.
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Hoping for the boys of STX! Kal, Calm, July, and Hwasin, (and tossgirl) hwaiting!
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FBH has taken down stronger zergs than July. Golden Mouse in his resume?
FBH > Tyrant, MaBonjwa.
At the very least, 1-3 STX. FBH guaranteed to win, and July's guaranteed to eat his feelings afterward.
LEE SUNGEUN!! LEE SUNGEUN!!
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Stork > Kal - Both are chokers, but I have more faith in Stork
FBH > July - FBH has good TvZ, I think July just got kicked out of GSI because of a Terran
Odin < Calm - Dunno
Jangbi > Hwasin - Jangbi is on a roll lately.
Khan 3 - 1 STX
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oh wait, I LBed for STX wtf..
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On December 28 2008 11:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 11:47 Ideas wrote:On December 28 2008 11:41 SuperJongMan wrote:
July is 7-7 this PL. Not bad old timer.
Considering how terrible his ZvT is... really nice old timer.
Doing better than so many big name zergs. July is on a 5 game winning streak in PL right now. Where do you two get your data? July is 7-4 this PL and on a 4 game streak.
lol my bad, I forgot about that S2 game.
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Baa?21244 Posts
Dear God,
Please let July win.
Thank you.
FBH needs to die in a corner. Fuck.
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july pulled that crazy zvt out of his ass last year when he took out sea he has it inside of him still and i think he needs a tvz monster to bring it out of him
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On December 28 2008 10:59 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 10:54 Kuja900 wrote:On December 28 2008 09:37 tKd_ wrote:
july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh when july is playing well there is no player better Jaedong, Savior, Flash, Bisu
I stand by my statement a primed july can take any of those players out. Julys originally had the best zvt of any zerg when he came on the scene except maby yellow it is july who stopped oovs 27 tvz win streak in an epic series. He has a complete player inside of him and i think hes going to prove it tonight.
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No one can take Jaedong's ZvZ.
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On December 28 2008 13:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No one can take Jaedong's ZvZ.
I beg to differ july and jaedong played bo3 in the wcg before last and july beat him twice on the same day.
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On December 28 2008 13:24 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 13:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No one can take Jaedong's ZvZ. I beg to differ july and jaedong played bo3 in the wcg before last and july beat him twice on the same day.
The fact is that they are 2-2 overall. I assume we're saying in a BoX series with both players at their best. Because if not, then anyone can be anyone else if enough things go their way. So, are you saying July > Jaedong when they're both playing at their best?
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On December 28 2008 13:24 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 13:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No one can take Jaedong's ZvZ. I beg to differ july and jaedong played bo3 in the wcg before last and july beat him twice on the same day.
July hasn't really had the fire inside of him for a while (outside of ZvP). His win vs ggplay was his 1st ZvZ win since WCG.
Don't get me wrong, I want July to destroy FBH as much as the next July fan, but I'm not getting my hopes up :\
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On December 28 2008 13:14 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 10:59 d(O.o)a wrote:On December 28 2008 10:54 Kuja900 wrote:On December 28 2008 09:37 tKd_ wrote:
july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh when july is playing well there is no player better Jaedong, Savior, Flash, Bisu I stand by my statement a primed july can take any of those players out. Julys originally had the best zvt of any zerg when he came on the scene except maby yellow it is july who stopped oovs 27 tvz win streak in an epic series. He has a complete player inside of him and i think hes going to prove it tonight.
Prime July hasn't been around for a LONG time, although it does show up from time to time in ZvPs. Unfortunately, this is a ZvT, against the best TvZ player in the game on a Terran-biased map.
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On December 28 2008 13:14 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 10:59 d(O.o)a wrote:On December 28 2008 10:54 Kuja900 wrote:On December 28 2008 09:37 tKd_ wrote:
july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh when july is playing well there is no player better Jaedong, Savior, Flash, Bisu I stand by my statement a primed july can take any of those players out. Julys originally had the best zvt of any zerg when he came on the scene except maby yellow it is july who stopped oovs 27 tvz win streak in an epic series. He has a complete player inside of him and i think hes going to prove it tonight.
Although you have to factor into the new macro maps and the playstyle that doesn't bode well with July's low-econ flair.
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Predictions:
Stork > Kal
firebathero > July
oDin > Calm
Khan 3-0 STX
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Corinthos
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On December 28 2008 13:38 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 13:14 Kuja900 wrote:On December 28 2008 10:59 d(O.o)a wrote:On December 28 2008 10:54 Kuja900 wrote:On December 28 2008 09:37 tKd_ wrote:
july is one of those players that tend to upset and win over ppl who are way better than him at the moment with his aggressive all-in like play, gain an advantage, then eco up and micro the shit out.
july>fbh when july is playing well there is no player better Jaedong, Savior, Flash, Bisu I stand by my statement a primed july can take any of those players out. Julys originally had the best zvt of any zerg when he came on the scene except maby yellow it is july who stopped oovs 27 tvz win streak in an epic series. He has a complete player inside of him and i think hes going to prove it tonight. Although you have to factor into the new macro maps and the playstyle that doesn't bode well with July's low-econ flair.
Yeah if i were stx and i saw an old map like neo requiem in the pool id send the vet i dont understand why calm over july on neo requiem noway he knows that map better than july. It also is much more accessible to julys low-econ imo.
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Who knows?
Maybe July wants his try at queens. lewlewlewl.
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The question, is whether firebathero will successfully humiliate another zerg legend. Savior-Jaedong-July.
go.go July,show us something the others couldn't! (otherwise he's fucked)
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Thanks a lot. The ppstream quality was kind of bad.
Wow, old uniforms for Khan today. I like their new black ones better.
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(P)(P)Stork < Neo Harmony > (P)(P)Kal
(T)(T)firebathero < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > (Z)(Z)July
(Z)(Z)oDin < Neo Requiem > (Z)(Z)Calm
(P)(P)JangBi < Colosseum 2 > (T)(T)Hwasin
ace: stork > kal (yeah, idk)
TY corinthos.
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Corinthos, thank you so much.
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stork
fbh
calm
janbi
3-1 khan's win.
bold: my prediction correct so far.
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you don't fucking fast exp vs stork -.-
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
it was all stork after the gas steal
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No one LR? I'll try to summarize the first game then.
Kal top left.
Stork bottom left.
Both players scout in the right direction.
Stork gas steals, Kal manner pyloned.
Due to gas steal, Kal was forced to make 4 zealots, forge first. Then expanded
Stork went 2 gate reavers.
Stork marched into Kal's base and his shuttle reaver just wiped the floor with Kal's army.
Kal GGs.
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On December 28 2008 14:20 Cambium wrote:
you don't fucking fast exp vs stork -.-
The gas steal fucked him up.
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I'm not a Protoss player but it seemed like Kal sorta did the right thing in that game in the position he was in. He had less gas than Stork but more minerals. Seems like he just needed a few more cannons or something.
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Stork runs over Kal effortlessly.
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firebathero has outrageously long hair
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FBH is looking suitably EMO the longer and longer his hair gets.
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I will donate 100 dollars to charity if July wins.
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July Blue Z Upper RIght
FBH Green T Lower Left
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july top right, fbh bottom left, no early pool from july
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On December 28 2008 14:32 SuperJongMan wrote:
I will donate 100 dollars to charity if July wins.
I'm quoting you on this.
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No early game trickery from either of them it seems.
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12 hatch from july, first rax going up for fbh
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FBH sends out a scout. Sees Standard.
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FBH expos after 1 marine.
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This game is going to be sick.
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1 rine > command center from fbh
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July rushes Lair, and FBH almost don't scout it. It looks like July cheated some lings there.
Somebody imitates FBH's crotch dance. FBH's going for an academy. 3 rax timing after expo to fend off the 2 hatch muta.
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jesus christ that is long hair
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However, July throws down a den.
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July expands at upper right; takes second gas.
FBH throws down a thrid rax waits for muta to come. July snipes a SCV with 4 lings.
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July skipped muta and it's pretty obvious to FBH it seems. FBH's looking to be aggressive.
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July rips apart FBH's aggressive group of MnM.
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LOLOLOLO FBH GOT HIS SHIT DESTROYED
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July is trying to backstab, but messes it up.
Spire and Queen's nest going down for July.
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Hive morphing in. Starport going up for FBH.
FBH is still on 3 raxes and 1 fact, haha. Still hasn't taken his second gas.
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2nd port going up for FBH. A few (2) muta out for July...
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July better have an epic plan. And that plan involves a greater spire, wtf.
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July tries muta harass but FBH is more than ready. July July July what is your plan.
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greater spire versus 2 starports =
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July actually doing some really good muta harass. Lots of stuff dies.
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wtf at greater spire vs 2 starports
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Guardians razing nat, lings come in forcing FBH to life.
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holy CRAP fbh is still alive
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Holy shit, FBH just got dominated.
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omg july
a LITTLE more patience and you could have infested then and there
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JUly is trying to infest FBH's CC!@
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Damn it, July was THIS close to infesting the CC
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FBH trying to come back in this! Die, July, die!
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I'm soooooooo surprised that FBH is still in the game
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man this always happens to fbh; it looks like he's about to lose but always makes an amazing comeback and wins
lets hope it happens again
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FBH now on 6 rax, and counter pushing. July is low econing his was out of the push, but is losing so many drones to harassing wraith at upper left.
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FBH just picked off three lurkers for free...
god, he is GOOD
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On December 28 2008 14:46 whatusername wrote:
man this always happens to fbh; it looks like he's about to lose but always makes an amazing comeback and wins
lets hope it happens again
no matter how much eco damage you do it always seems like terran/toss just rebuild in a couple of seconds >: (
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July re macros an army. That is, 4 lurkers. FBH is also doing a great job of remacroing. They're trying to trade armies. July 's coming out on top.
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United States12607 Posts
Why the hell is July powering muta?? This strat will not work against SK Terran.
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Guardians again. July needs to expand or drone up, one of the two.
Fuck July's muta get irridated. All of them .
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LOL FBH IS SICKO. !!! MIRACLE IRRADIATE!!!
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HOLY SHIT
july just lost about 6-8 mutas
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FBH CRUSHES THE MUTAS OMGGG
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On December 28 2008 14:48 jwd241224 wrote:
Why the hell is July powering muta?? This strat will not work against SK Terran.
Seriously, he was great up until now.
July treis to nat break again. Actually does a reasonable job.
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FBH YOUR MY HERO WIN OR LOSE YOUR AWESOME!!!
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Guardian/ling in FBH's nat.
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as long as FBH doesnt win a starleague...
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Nat CC dgoes down, FBH retreats and D's up. He also has swarm in his main.
Queen Queen Queen Queen please.
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Nice plague! Catches all 4 vessels! FBH's getting stoned.
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my stream is dying
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Muta snipes a bunch of Vessels.
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Scourage clean up the rest of them.
FBH gg's.
July is the king of low econ.
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wow, just brutal rape from july, unbelievable
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July does it for the charity!!!
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jullllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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On December 28 2008 14:32 SuperJongMan wrote:
I will donate 100 dollars to charity if July wins.
Edit: nvm you already brought it up 
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I FUCKING LOVE JULY!!!!!!! IM FAITING OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FBH displays great MnM, picking off the 3 lurkers stacked literally ON the ramp, but he GGs to the guardians.
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On December 28 2008 14:32 SuperJongMan wrote:
I will donate 100 dollars to charity if July wins.
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i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
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On December 28 2008 14:32 SuperJongMan wrote:
I will donate 100 dollars to charity if July wins.
What's your charity? Post your Receipt once you've donated.
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On December 28 2008 14:32 SuperJongMan wrote:
I will donate 100 dollars to charity if July wins.
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On December 28 2008 14:32 SuperJongMan wrote:
I will donate 100 dollars to charity if July wins.
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to be honest I never saw that coming
July is fabulous
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Tough luck FBH great MnM micro though woot!
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When July wants to win, he wins. Nothing can stop him.
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OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG OMG
BEST GAME EVER
TUSHIN IS BACK
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On December 28 2008 14:51 jwd241224 wrote:
FBH gg's =(
F U July
watch ur mouth youngin
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Holy shit, that was a GREAT build by July, and his muta harass did massive damage to FBH's expo.
While glorifying july's fucking amazing build, we can't ignore FBH's skills. FBH was in the game for longer than anyone expected, and he almost made a comeback.
They are both amazing, fuck.
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On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said.
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Holy shit, that was a sexy strat executed PERFECTLY, except he fucked up the ensnare -- should have ensnared the front of the army so all the marines behind would lag
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On December 28 2008 14:52 Sunyveil wrote:
When July wants to win, he wins. Nothing can stop him.
please....
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Baa?21244 Posts
I LOVE YOU JULY I LOVE YOU
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YES! I'm glad I stayed up for this one.
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My name is Park Sung Joon, the God of War, the ender of streaky TvZers. I use queens and guardians. I solved oov. I solved 27-0. FBH is just another meal for me.
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July and Boxer shows that mindgames is always the best way to win!
Too bad the progamers have so many games a week they cant really prepare like this like Garimto said in his interview.
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On December 28 2008 14:53 Cambium wrote:
Holy shit, that was a GREAT build by July, and his muta harass did massive damage to FBH's expo.
While glorifying july's fucking amazing build, we can't ignore FBH's skills. FBH was in the game for longer than anyone expected, and he almost made a comeback.
They are both amazing, fuck.
Yea, I have no idea how FBH comes back fighting when everyone else would have been dead. Casy's like that too.
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as much as i love FBH that was a great GGplay from july
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............................................................WTF?????????????????????
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nice to see queens getting some action now
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Got to admire FBH's fighting spirit. He played very well under the circumstances.
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On December 28 2008 14:54 sushiman wrote:
Got to admire FBH's fighting spirit. He played very well under the circumstances.
Even in losing he shows us why he is the best TvZer at the moment.
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Oh man, I traded Bisu for FBH. ><
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July's build order rocks!
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On December 28 2008 14:53 StRyKeR wrote:
Holy shit, that was a sexy strat executed PERFECTLY, except he fucked up the ensnare -- should have ensnared the front of the army so all the marines behind would lag
He fucked up that part HUGE, regardless of his intention.
a) Ensnare was originally meant for vessels when they try to irradiate the guardians, and the scourges can pick them off. Lost all scourges.
b) Ensnare was meant for MM so that guards can pick them off from afar, fucking up huge on both control and timing.
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On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said.
I don't even know why he sent the queen there.
A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range.
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On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said.
Yeah an infest would have been so damn sexy. Ofc comparing an infest to July himself wouldn't do July justice.
Or was that the other way around...
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The ensnare would've made the game, but July got massive economic damage -> winning the game anyway.
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On December 28 2008 14:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
July does it for the charity!!!
which one?
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On December 28 2008 14:54 Sprite wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:54 sushiman wrote:
Got to admire FBH's fighting spirit. He played very well under the circumstances. Even in losing he shows us why he is the best TvZer at the moment.
heh, no, he did nothing special to recover except get 2 wraith
july timed that infest a lil early, and he pulled back his guards instead of pushing forward and lost them all to wraith
if he'd done either one of these the game'd have ended lot sooner if not right there
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korean commercials never fail to amuse me
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On December 28 2008 14:53 soudo wrote:
My name is Park Sung Joon, the God of War, the ender of streaky TvZers. I use queens and guardians. I solved oov. I solved 27-0. FBH is just another meal for me.
lol. exactly!
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Wow, nice play by July.
Terrans certainly are pretty imba when it comes to defense. I almost thought FBH would pull another one out of his ass, but July made the right choice and expanded to solidify his advantage.
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agreed, Cambium
July should have won then and there -- ensnare vessel, ensnare front of marine army, wait before queen. That would have been possibly the best midgame tactic ever.
By fucking up some small but important hings July pretty much set up the perfect come-back scenario for FBH. Notice that he produced NO more drones. Basically, if he didn't win in the next 2 minutes he was toast.
On the other hand, it's REALLY refreshing to see a Zerg plan for midgame superiority unlike every other ZvT, where Zergs will do anything to buy time to go to Hive.
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July = fucking beast. Hero.
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So close to infested CC T_T
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This+Jaedong= I'm sensing a long needed revitalization in ZvT.
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We can really see how a better queen usage would have finished that game faster. An better ensnare would have completly destroyed taht mnm army, and infest would have killed off the CC. Queen owns!
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Omg... this game was just so pimpely played by July!
I just love his extraordinary low economy builds, and as he plays them it's just so great!
But still.. respect to FBH, even though I'm a July fan, he played really well. I kinda thought it was over after that first guardians + lurks + lings go, but he defended well and was almost able to do a comeback. I was bibbering in those moment when it was looking good for FBH again :D So really well played by both!
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On December 28 2008 14:57 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
July does it for the charity!!! which one?
I dunno, let's pick one -_-;;
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On December 28 2008 15:01 SuperJongMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:57 Cambium wrote:On December 28 2008 14:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
July does it for the charity!!! which one? I dunno, let's pick one -_-;;
one drop foundation!!
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On December 28 2008 14:52 .risingdragoon wrote:watch ur mouth youngin
lets fuck him up
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On December 28 2008 14:59 baubo wrote:
Wow, nice play by July.
Terrans certainly are pretty imba when it comes to defense. I almost thought FBH would pull another one out of his ass, but July made the right choice and expanded to solidify his advantage.
July didn't expand to solidify his advantage -- he produced barely any drones to put to the expos. They were pretty bare -- he only used the expos for extra gas, which was indeed a brilliant move.
It was a closer game than ppl might think -- if FBH defended well and amassed a ball of rine+med+vessel, July wouldn't have had a chance. July played it perfectly with his lead, being ultra aggressive and preventing the ball from forming.
I was worried that by losing the game ppl would think "see, ensnare sux balls July lost cuz of ensnare". But if you look at the game, well-placed ensnares + queen infestation would have really made a HUGE difference. Basically, done right, Ensnare + Queen would have been awesome in this game.
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On December 28 2008 14:57 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:54 Sprite wrote:On December 28 2008 14:54 sushiman wrote:
Got to admire FBH's fighting spirit. He played very well under the circumstances. Even in losing he shows us why he is the best TvZer at the moment. heh, no, he did nothing special to recover except get 2 wraith july timed that infest a lil early, and he pulled back his guards instead of pushing forward and lost them all to wraith if he'd done either one of these the game'd have ended lot sooner if not right there
Tell me his splits against those lurkers wasn't sweet at the end. I love Tushin btw
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If July actually got off that Infest, I probably would've wet myself =d
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Awesome build by July. Destroying that first mnm force gave him total control until his guardians popped. guardian lurker dream combo versus mnm. Like people said, slightly better use of Queen and game would have probably have ended in a pimpest play humiliation.
Still holding on to win anyway, especially after so many mutalisks got toasted, was again really fucking impressive.
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On December 28 2008 15:02 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:59 baubo wrote:
Wow, nice play by July.
Terrans certainly are pretty imba when it comes to defense. I almost thought FBH would pull another one out of his ass, but July made the right choice and expanded to solidify his advantage. July didn't expand to solidify his advantage -- he produced barely any drones to put to the expos. They were pretty bare -- he only used the expos for extra gas, which was indeed a brilliant move. It was a closer game than ppl might think -- if FBH defended well and amassed a ball of rine+med+vessel, July wouldn't have had a chance. July played it perfectly with his lead, being ultra aggressive and preventing the ball from forming. I was worried that by losing the game ppl would think "see, ensnare sux balls July lost cuz of ensnare". But if you look at the game, well-placed ensnares + queen infestation would have really made a HUGE difference. Basically, done right, Ensnare + Queen would have been awesome in this game.
Well the thing about the low drone thing is that that's July's style. Super low econ, not very many drones.
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Odin's ID is now "espada"?
wtf
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Odin Red Z 6
Odin Green Z12
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calm's got a fire lit under his ass right now
he's more likely to win now
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Here we go, ogrezerg vs. Calm on Neo Requiem.
oDin in Teal at 12, Calm in red at 6
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On December 28 2008 15:05 thunk wrote:
Odin Red Z 6
Odin Green Z12
YEEA
dual odin go!
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I just want to say Odin sucks...
But hope he proves me wrong.
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On December 28 2008 15:05 thunk wrote:
Odin Red Z 6
Odin Green Z12
Man...this guy beats himself every game
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On December 28 2008 15:01 SuperJongMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:57 Cambium wrote:On December 28 2008 14:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
July does it for the charity!!! which one? I dunno, let's pick one -_-;;
Hm.. nothing peace-related, July wouldn't approve. Maybe feeding starving children?
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Hmm...Odin 9 pools, Calm (Red Z6, sorry) gases-> pool
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they are both so lame, i don't even know who i'm cheering for
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On December 28 2008 15:06 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:01 SuperJongMan wrote:On December 28 2008 14:57 Cambium wrote:On December 28 2008 14:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
July does it for the charity!!! which one? I dunno, let's pick one -_-;; Hm.. nothing peace-related, July wouldn't approve. Maybe feeding starving children?
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like july would approve of giving food to someone else
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Both start Lair, at about the same time actually.
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On December 28 2008 15:06 Cambium wrote:they are both so lame, i don't even know who i'm cheering for
WTF man, Calm is pretty cool. I hear he's dating Tossgirl?? That has to be worth your support.
Also, if you are a true T1 fan you will root against KHAN in almost all circumstances.
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odin spire building, calm built second hatch, and spire late
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What an insanely apm intensive build imo i mean managing a queen ontop of lurk/ling/guard and later defiler+muta aswell all at the same time. If you get a good muta harass off and have 350-450apm this is a great build to transition into i really loved how it even allowed you to make mistakes in a zvt which no other build does and still let you win i mean the ensnare/infest mostly failed and he lost 8 muta stack and then won the game 25seconds later. I love this build sooooooooo much.
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Send the $100 as a gift. Or buy him a present first before sending it to him.
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Second hatch going down for Calm, Spire down for Odin then Calm.
Basically, Odin's build allowed him to get all of his tech out faster, but Calm was able to cheat in a second hatch (before Calm's, he also threw down a second hatch).
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On December 28 2008 15:08 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:06 Cambium wrote:they are both so lame, i don't even know who i'm cheering for WTF man, Calm is pretty cool. I hear he's dating Tossgirl?? That has to be worth your support. Also, if you are a true T1 fan you will root against KHAN in almost all circumstances.
tossgirl is dating THAT?
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There's going to be a bunch of muta out for both of them. HOWEVER, because Calm threw his hatch down first, he has more larva, and hence more muta.
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I think the commentators are talking about lava because Calm saved a few more for mutas. Looks like he will have the bigger air army initially.
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On December 28 2008 15:06 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:01 SuperJongMan wrote:On December 28 2008 14:57 Cambium wrote:On December 28 2008 14:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
July does it for the charity!!! which one? I dunno, let's pick one -_-;; Hm.. nothing peace-related, July wouldn't approve. Maybe feeding starving children?
lol
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wow calm is raping odin...
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You know, that build was pretty cool on Calm's part. Odin now blows a bunch of muta on scrouge. And has lings.
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On December 28 2008 15:09 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:08 jwd241224 wrote:On December 28 2008 15:06 Cambium wrote:they are both so lame, i don't even know who i'm cheering for WTF man, Calm is pretty cool. I hear he's dating Tossgirl?? That has to be worth your support. Also, if you are a true T1 fan you will root against KHAN in almost all circumstances. tossgirl is dating THAT?
Well, keep in mind + Show Spoiler +Tossgirl isn't actually that smoking herself...I mean come on
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On December 28 2008 15:06 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:01 SuperJongMan wrote:On December 28 2008 14:57 Cambium wrote:On December 28 2008 14:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
July does it for the charity!!! which one? I dunno, let's pick one -_-;; Hm.. nothing peace-related, July wouldn't approve. Maybe feeding starving children?
why dont we go ask the man ourselves
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Yea, Calm is destroying Odin. It's not even close.
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oDin getting destroyed, closeup on Calm's sexy glasses of DOOM
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such a pathetic rape.... =.=
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Samsung Khan does have bad zergs...
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Odin GG's. I've never seen that build before but I never play ZvZ so...
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nothing special, just nicely played by calm
and if it's true, calm get's some present tonight 
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On December 28 2008 15:12 thunk wrote:
Yea, Calm is destroying Odin. It's not even close.
Does anyone know what happened to by.great? He's been doing well all season long, I have no idea why KHAN decides to throw games by playing oDin instead.
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Was the samsung coach frustrated for once?
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As a KHAN fan I am disgusted, that was some of the worst ZvZ I have ever seen. Get Odin out of the PL lineup and get Juni in there.
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On December 28 2008 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Samsung Khan does have bad zergs...
Odin is Khan's 3rd best zerg behind Great and Juni. Why is he playing though? I think January was smoking weed when she was filling up the lineup card.
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I think the key is that Calm cut his pool to get his gas faster to be able to throw down that second hatch faster. I have no idea how getting gas will help but Calm had 2 more muta than Odin when the battle took place. Didn't help that Odin busted out on some scourge.
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I don't want to see Great in there either, his recent ZvZs have been turtling with spore colonies. Even when he wins it is unimpressive. IMO Juni is the best ZvZ KHAN has.
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I thought tossgirl was dating creation toss?
Gotta be favoring July for Ace at this point, unless Hwasin surprises me.
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time for hwasin to get raped
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On December 28 2008 15:15 thunk wrote:
I think the key is that Calm cut his pool to get his gas faster to be able to throw down that second hatch faster. I have no idea how getting gas will help but Calm had 2 more muta than Odin when the battle took place. Didn't help that Odin busted out on some scourge.
I think this might have been an issue of larva management - I think I noticed oDin making a few more lings than Calm, that might have left him with a few fewer larva when the spires popped?
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On December 28 2008 15:14 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Samsung Khan does have bad zergs... Odin is Khan's 3rd best zerg behind Great and Juni. Why is he playing though? I think January was smoking weed when she was filling up the lineup card.
maybe she was being a nice person and giving him another chance
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On December 28 2008 15:14 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Samsung Khan does have bad zergs... Odin is Khan's 3rd best zerg behind Great and Juni. Why is he playing though? I think January was smoking weed when she was filling up the lineup card.
All zergs are having problems now, hard to say. Samsung's pretty deep, too, so maybe Great has some OSL/MSL games to play in, I can't remember where Great stands in that respect, and January thought she could get away with not putting in an A team. Who knows, Samsung's been doing reasonably well.
I actually have no idea how the teams are doing right now. Does anyone have rankings?
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Interesting how in the lineup thread people were praising Khan for having the sickest lineup choices, how they always choose the right people for the right maps. Make up your mind, will you
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On December 28 2008 15:16 Deletrious wrote:
I thought tossgirl was dating creation toss?
Either one of us is incorrect, or Tossgirl is making rounds at the STX house. Once she gets through the A-team, B-team, practice partners, and coaches, she'll go for July.
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On December 28 2008 15:17 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:14 baubo wrote:On December 28 2008 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Samsung Khan does have bad zergs... Odin is Khan's 3rd best zerg behind Great and Juni. Why is he playing though? I think January was smoking weed when she was filling up the lineup card. All zergs are having problems now, hard to say. Samsung's pretty deep, too, so maybe Great has some OSL/MSL games to play in, I can't remember where Great stands in that respect, and January thought she could get away with not putting in an A team. Who knows, Samsung's been doing reasonably well. I actually have no idea how the teams are doing right now. Does anyone have rankings?
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July impressed tonight, and then calm rode the waves
now it's time for jangbi to turn it UP
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Actually, Samsung and SKT1 (SKT1 more so than Samsung) have been doing reasonably well with terrible zergs. And Lecaf was going down last time I checked so it seems that having good zergs doesn't do much to augment a team. Who knows though I dont' know where any of the teams stand.
And Lecaf beat SKT1 with 2 Jaedong wins and STX might beat Samsung with two Zerg wins.
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On December 28 2008 15:17 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
Interesting how in the lineup thread people were praising Khan for having the sickest lineup choices, how they always choose the right people for the right maps. Make up your mind, will you
Well, they did do pretty well to catch Kal in a PvP, snipe a Z with FBH, and catch Hwasin in a TvP. I'm pretty sure any one of Kal, July, Calm, or Hwasin could absolutely thrash oDin.
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Anyone enjoying watching this chick?
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On December 28 2008 15:18 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:16 Deletrious wrote:
I thought tossgirl was dating creation toss?
Either one of us is incorrect, or Tossgirl is making rounds at the STX house. Once she gets through the A-team, B-team, practice partners, and coaches, she'll go for July.
after today you can bet your ass july has first dibs
-tossgirl said that creationtoss actually gives her alot of shit about her play in her interview noway she dating him.
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P.S. This girl that's on the stream right now is toofine
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On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont....
Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit.
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I guess Jangbi will beat Hwasin.
And then we have ACE on Medusa. Stork vs July anyone?
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On December 28 2008 15:18 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:17 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 15:14 baubo wrote:On December 28 2008 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Samsung Khan does have bad zergs... Odin is Khan's 3rd best zerg behind Great and Juni. Why is he playing though? I think January was smoking weed when she was filling up the lineup card. All zergs are having problems now, hard to say. Samsung's pretty deep, too, so maybe Great has some OSL/MSL games to play in, I can't remember where Great stands in that respect, and January thought she could get away with not putting in an A team. Who knows, Samsung's been doing reasonably well. I actually have no idea how the teams are doing right now. Does anyone have rankings? ------------------->
Thanks. Spiral updates teh R&S without posting a newspost.
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On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit.
Actually, Queens do auto-infest.
Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest.
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On December 28 2008 15:17 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
Interesting how in the lineup thread people were praising Khan for having the sickest lineup choices, how they always choose the right people for the right maps. Make up your mind, will you
I kind of made that post in jest. In actuality, considering that Calm is STX's ace(or co-ace with Kal), it wasn't actually a bad idea to have your worst player face him. Note that Khan has the MU advantage in all other games.
On December 28 2008 15:17 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:14 baubo wrote:On December 28 2008 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Samsung Khan does have bad zergs... Odin is Khan's 3rd best zerg behind Great and Juni. Why is he playing though? I think January was smoking weed when she was filling up the lineup card. All zergs are having problems now, hard to say. Samsung's pretty deep, too, so maybe Great has some OSL/MSL games to play in, I can't remember where Great stands in that respect, and January thought she could get away with not putting in an A team. Who knows, Samsung's been doing reasonably well. I actually have no idea how the teams are doing right now. Does anyone have rankings?
Khan's #2, 1/2 a game behind Lecaf.
I have to think that they didn't expect zerg on this map, because Odin's ZvZ is just crap. They might've had him in there to snipe Kal perhaps?
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On December 28 2008 15:17 YEAHHHH BOIIII wrote:
Interesting how in the lineup thread people were praising Khan for having the sickest lineup choices, how they always choose the right people for the right maps. Make up your mind, will you
What are you talking about? Stork in one of his two strongest matchups, Firebathero in one of his two strongest matchups, Jangbi in his strongest matchup, and the token throwaway zerg. Meanwhile on the other end, not one of the players is in his best matchup. Samsung looks more than on top of things than ever.
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On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O
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On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O
do they?
really? wtf
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On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O
Yea, I remember having to move Queens away from CC because it'd go on its own, even when there's like 10 turrets which would mean it'd be running into a suicide.
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On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O
Somebody go try this out, it's definitely worth looking into.
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On December 28 2008 15:14 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Samsung Khan does have bad zergs... Odin is Khan's 3rd best zerg behind Great and Juni. Why is he playing though? I think January was smoking weed when she was filling up the lineup card.
Well, if you look at the lineup there is basically no way for STX to win
Obviously Stork > Kal, FBH > July, and Jangbi > Hwasin. Then there's ACE where you can put one of the top players.
Maybe Odin plays like a god in practise, but chokes due to lack of confidence in live matches. If only he got more wins under his belt he'd do better in the future thus strengthening the Khan roster. Sending Odin is just a calculated risk.
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On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O
Probably cause people rarely ever use queens lol
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On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit.
She said Soo.
Now shut up about that, not important.
Game 4 starting baby!!!
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On December 28 2008 15:20 thunk wrote:
Actually, Samsung and SKT1 (SKT1 more so than Samsung) have been doing reasonably well with terrible zergs. And Lecaf was going down last time I checked so it seems that having good zergs doesn't do much to augment a team. Who knows though I dont' know where any of the teams stand.
And Lecaf beat SKT1 with 2 Jaedong wins and STX might beat Samsung with two Zerg wins.
Eh, Lecaf only has Jaedong as far as good zergs. Of course, he's worth any other 2 zergs.
As far as Lecaf going down, I believe they're in 1st again now, or at least tied with Khan.
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On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest.
you have to right click it once first.
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Right...who is the Hwsain Red T bottom left
Jangbi Yellow P upper right
I hope I have the players right.
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On December 28 2008 15:25 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. you have to right click it once first.
No, that's the point -- you don't have to do ANYthing. It auto-goes.
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I have to think that they didn't expect zerg on this map, because Odin's ZvZ is just crap. They might've had him in there to snipe Kal perhaps?
Whoa, whoa whoa
oDin's best MU by far is ZvZ, and nobody in their right mind would send a Zerg to "snipe" Kal, whose best MU is PvZ.
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On December 28 2008 15:25 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. you have to right click it once first.
It auto infest, go try it out
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On December 28 2008 15:25 Onisparda wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:25 d(O.o)a wrote:On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. you have to right click it once first. It auto infest, go try it out
Queen has CC fetish. It goes even if you don't ask it.
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Jangbi 12 nexuses while Hwsain gas-raxes and walls off.
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On December 28 2008 15:24 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. She said Soo. Now shut up about that, not important. Game 4 starting baby!!!
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On December 28 2008 15:25 StRyKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:25 d(O.o)a wrote:On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. you have to right click it once first. No, that's the point -- you don't have to do ANYthing. It auto-goes.
yes but it'll take extra damage
GOD FOCUS ON THE GAME RIGHT NOW
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On December 28 2008 15:25 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +I have to think that they didn't expect zerg on this map, because Odin's ZvZ is just crap. They might've had him in there to snipe Kal perhaps? Whoa, whoa whoa oDin's best MU by far is ZvZ, and nobody in their right mind would send a Zerg to "snipe" Kal, whose best MU is PvZ.
Unless that zerg is Jaedong. See the match between Lecaf and STX in a few days.
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Jangbi almost steals an SCV kill. Hwasin throws down a CC.
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On December 28 2008 15:26 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:24 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. She said Soo. Now shut up about that, not important. Game 4 starting baby!!! creationtoss is soo's other nick dumbdumb lol ^_^
wtf u talking about? u're confused
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On December 28 2008 15:26 QibingZero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:25 jwd241224 wrote:I have to think that they didn't expect zerg on this map, because Odin's ZvZ is just crap. They might've had him in there to snipe Kal perhaps? Whoa, whoa whoa oDin's best MU by far is ZvZ, and nobody in their right mind would send a Zerg to "snipe" Kal, whose best MU is PvZ. Unless that zerg is Jaedong. See the match between Lecaf and STX in a few days.
To defend my original statement on a technicality, I don't think sending JD for Kal is a "snipe" as much as an evenly-matched pairing that was probably anticipated by both coaches.
Point taken about JD, but we do remember what happened the last time he played Kal
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Some people in this thread has never played the Zerg campaign ehh??
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On December 28 2008 15:26 QibingZero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:25 jwd241224 wrote:I have to think that they didn't expect zerg on this map, because Odin's ZvZ is just crap. They might've had him in there to snipe Kal perhaps? Whoa, whoa whoa oDin's best MU by far is ZvZ, and nobody in their right mind would send a Zerg to "snipe" Kal, whose best MU is PvZ. Unless that zerg is Jaedong. See the match between Lecaf and STX in a few days.
Jaedong's not fair, he snipes everyone. He takes out SKT1's two best vZ players, in back to back matches. I'm not sure SKT1 was supposed to do about that.
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god damn, the top of my stream keeps flickering. Seizure incoming! @_@
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On December 28 2008 15:24 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O Somebody go try this out, it's definitely worth looking into.
I can do it. I'll post the results in the ZvT ensnare thread with reps.
Another thing about queens is that if the CC is destroyed while the queen is inside it, the queen will also be destroyed.
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On December 28 2008 15:27 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:26 Kuja900 wrote:On December 28 2008 15:24 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. She said Soo. Now shut up about that, not important. Game 4 starting baby!!! creationtoss is soo's other nick dumbdumb lol ^_^ wtf u talking about? u're confused
oh snap i am confused i put july i meant soo woops
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Hmm, they're both just macroing up if anyone wants to know what's going on. Jangbi is going for some sort of templar or arbiter rush.
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On December 28 2008 15:24 QibingZero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:20 thunk wrote:
Actually, Samsung and SKT1 (SKT1 more so than Samsung) have been doing reasonably well with terrible zergs. And Lecaf was going down last time I checked so it seems that having good zergs doesn't do much to augment a team. Who knows though I dont' know where any of the teams stand.
And Lecaf beat SKT1 with 2 Jaedong wins and STX might beat Samsung with two Zerg wins. Eh, Lecaf only has Jaedong as far as good zergs. Of course, he's worth any other 2 zergs. As far as Lecaf going down, I believe they're in 1st again now, or at least tied with Khan.
+ Show Spoiler +
Lecaf is first tonight no matter what.
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Super fast arb tech from JangBi, looks like he's on 2 gates and has stargate and archives coming
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On December 28 2008 15:28 village_idiot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:24 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O Somebody go try this out, it's definitely worth looking into. I can do it. I'll post the results in the ZvT ensnare thread with reps. Another thing about queens is that if the CC is destroyed while the queen is inside it, the queen will also be destroyed.
You should go make a new thread/blog about it it's just going to get lost here. I'll look forward to the results.
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Jangbi takes his third, DTs out for him. Hwsain has turrets out, so no big deal.
Gols+armory out for Hwsain, looks like there's no ups coming though.
Arbiter coming for Jangbi, this is like the greediest build ever.
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you know its really not worth looking into, and I dont think there can be "results" of seeing whether or not a queen auto infests a cc. It either does or it doesn't, there cant be data. Unless your joking? 
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On December 28 2008 15:30 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:28 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 15:24 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O Somebody go try this out, it's definitely worth looking into. I can do it. I'll post the results in the ZvT ensnare thread with reps. Another thing about queens is that if the CC is destroyed while the queen is inside it, the queen will also be destroyed. You should go make a new thread/blog about it it's just going to get lost here. I'll look forward to the results.
I'm curious as to whether a queen will "auto-infest" a CC that's in its line of sight if that CC was above the required level of HP when it originally came into the queen's vision.
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Vults roaming the map for Hwasin. Jangbi macroing up, throwing up robo.
Hwsain floating his third cc.
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On December 28 2008 15:30 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:28 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 15:24 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O Somebody go try this out, it's definitely worth looking into. I can do it. I'll post the results in the ZvT ensnare thread with reps. Another thing about queens is that if the CC is destroyed while the queen is inside it, the queen will also be destroyed. You should go make a new thread/blog about it it's just going to get lost here. I'll look forward to the results.
Hmmm, yeah, maybe.
I'll try it with blind queens too. It might be that the auto-infest work even if there is no vision. The queen just checks for any infested CCs within a certain radius, maybe.
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has hwasin not scanned jangbi's main btw? the flicking top screen in my stream is really fucking up my attention, I havent even noticed. If he hasnt scanned yet he could be REALLY fucked.
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Jangbi looking to take it fourth, seems.
Hwasin finally takes his third.
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Oh god, Hwasin foolishly wastes 2 scans on a retreating DT. He's really going to regret that when he sees this first arbiter.
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There's two dropships out for Hwasin how the hell did I miss that. And Jangbi scouts it too, with a random probe. Wow, how anti climatic.
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On December 28 2008 15:33 Dazed_Spy wrote:
has hwasin not scanned jangbi's main btw? the flicking top screen in my stream is really fucking up my attention, I havent even noticed. If he hasnt scanned yet he could be REALLY fucked.
He has gols, I'm pretty sure he has scanned.
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JB has maphack probe which sees 2 dropships leaving Hwasin's main, presumably headed for his new expo at 2
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On December 28 2008 15:32 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:30 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 15:28 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 15:24 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 15:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 15:22 StRyKeR wrote:On December 28 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 14:56 village_idiot wrote:On December 28 2008 14:53 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 14:52 benjammin wrote:
i never thought i would say this, but missing the infest kept fbh alive longer, it would've been gg there
It would have been so PIMP if he finished it off. He just needed to bring the queen in a little later. More patience, as someone said. I don't even know why he sent the queen there. A little known fact is that queens infest command centers automatically, you just have to have it within the queen's vison range. No they dont.... Tossgirl said July gave her a lot of shit. Actually, Queens do auto-infest. Just leave it next to CC, and when CC is at 750/1500, Queen will auto infest. Wow, what the fuck? How has this not come up in ten years of starcraft for me?. o.O Somebody go try this out, it's definitely worth looking into. I can do it. I'll post the results in the ZvT ensnare thread with reps. Another thing about queens is that if the CC is destroyed while the queen is inside it, the queen will also be destroyed. You should go make a new thread/blog about it it's just going to get lost here. I'll look forward to the results. I'm curious as to whether a queen will "auto-infest" a CC that's in its line of sight if that CC was above the required level of HP when it originally came into the queen's vision.
no, there's no point to let it auto-infest cus itll just take unnecessary damage
HOLY SHIIT RECALLLL
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Recal in main, storm the shit out of the scvs
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Recall into Hwasin's main, but it really did the damage it needed to.
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And, here comes a recall into Hwasin's main with storm
Hwasin is totally boned, he obviously did not expect this
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The two dropships are trying to take down Jangbi's fourth, probably suceeded.
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OMG what a recall!! and those storms afterward! great play by jangbi so far, really impressive.
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On December 28 2008 15:36 faculty.aCe. wrote:
OMG what a recall!! and those storms afterward! great play by jangbi so far, really impressive.
Yes he has.....made a fast arbiter and used recall?
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oh my... hwasing looking like a big noob
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recall on hwasins army lol
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There's going to be another recall in Hwasin's main, I can see it coming. Nah, it's in Hwasin's third, but Jangbi just threw away all those units.
Jangbi's fourth is still going down (Hwasin's kind slow at getting around to it) while Jangbi throws down another one bottom right.
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Hey Jangbi....
STOP giving a bad name to recalls!!
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ok, that recall was dumb :D There weren't any tanks sieged, so i don't see a reason why he did do that oO somehow a waste.
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Hwasin has shut down 2, JangBi decides to recall on top of Hwasin's army and that gets wiped out pretty quick. JangBi now taking 4:00 nat
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jangbi recalls on top of a massive tank army
for some reason
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Ah, wow, I think Hwasin is running out of scans.
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JangBi's probe saturation seems really, really low
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Jangbi jocking for position, seems like Hwasin is going to drop on Jangbi's inside nat (he does). Elevators a pretty big army in, Jangbi defends.
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Hwasin stops mining at JB's nat with these dropships, he is using them quite effectively.
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Jangbi's expo at 2:00 going to be taken out.
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jangbi isnt protecting his expos
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On December 28 2008 15:38 jwd241224 wrote:
JangBi's probe saturation seems really, really low
His macro seems really weak for some reason, but maybe that's because I'm used to watching Best.
Jangbi snipes 1 dropship. Hwasin's units are all over the place, I wonder if he knows he's probably missed his timing window already.
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WOW INSTANT LAST SECOND CONTROL TO KILL TEMPLAR AT NAT
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jangbi's macro's not weak at all
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Hwasin doing some vulture harass, catches a maynard of probes out in the open and then cleans out the 4:00 main before dying to cannons
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Hwasin is moving out. Jangbi better make more probes, because Hwasin is just killing them.
Jangbi engages Hwasin, statises, backs off. Hwsain's army looks suspiciously small now though.
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wow, some nice emp right there
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oh man, I had flash's of nony's charge in the last game of courage, I almost shit myself. Luckily Jangbi did not repeat Nony's mistakes.
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HERE COMES A BIG ATTACK EMP EMP STASIS FIELDUUU
JB withdraws, having killed a few tanks but lost many goons
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On December 28 2008 15:40 StRyKeR wrote:
WOW INSTANT LAST SECOND CONTROL TO KILL TEMPLAR AT NAT
I noticed that too, was pretty sweet.
Hwasin's playing really well, and wow he has a lot of tanks and manages to hold off jangbi's push easily even after some statises.
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hwasin's army is plenty big he just hides most of it in choke
it's rather intelligent.
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both players have been sloppy this game
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On December 28 2008 15:42 Dazed_Spy wrote:oh man, I had flash's of nony's charge in the last game of courage, I almost shit myself. Luckily Jangbi did not repeat Nony's mistakes.
JB was also not fighting a 200/200 2/3 Terran army
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hwasin pushing
jangbi doesn't want to commit to any battles; his army would lose
waiting for rallied units/arb energy..
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Hwasin tries again though. Jangbi's going to flank and kill him, just wait.
Jangbi expands again to upper right (remember, he has lower right main+nat plus his original main).
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Wow man, hwasin is nailing all those emps
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Players now battling across the middle, this is turning into quite a good game!
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this over, seems like hwasin has it. jangbi didn't protect his first expos at the top right.
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jangbi's army getting worn down
HEROIC PUSH BREAK by jangbi
obs misses most of it wtf
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HWASIN TIMING IS NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
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JB's reinforcements getting wasted by mines, Hwasin has a firm hold on 4:00 now
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This is Hwasin's timing.
What is he doing!
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errr but only broke half of t
still ~14 tanks pounding away
jangbi looks dead
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Jangbi can't defend both nat and main of lower right. Hm, Hwasin is going to expand there.
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AHHHH EMP
Hwasin is lookin' good. Has position over 5 o'clock.
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would almost be more worth it to recall those probes out of his dead expos to continue mining at his top right.
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Yes~ looks like Khan loses again!
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Is Hwasin mining anywhere?
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Jangbi is expanding again, He's goign to recall again.
Jangbi tries to recall again on Hwasin's army.
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wow nice recall and stasis, but too bad hwasin as reinforcements rdy.
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Pretty sexy Recall just went down...
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Jangbi need some obs man, he's losing quite a lot of units to mines in the middle of the map...
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both players have like no economy, hwasin with a military advantage.
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On December 28 2008 15:45 DownMaxX wrote:
Is Hwasin mining anywhere?
He has his 3rd expo.
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Jangbi runs his army into lower right, he doesn't have enough units to raze it though.
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wow... how do pros get such nice stasis and recalls? they always make the best of the spell. for recall is it better to target the ground rather than the middle unit?
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wow hwasin messed that up
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Arbiters are what 4 psi? Jangbi has 24 psi in arbiters.
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probes joining the fight at bottom rights expo lol
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hahaha wow jangbi has a shitload of arbiters, may as well use those to snipe as many tanks as possible
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On December 28 2008 15:48 rushz0rz wrote:
hahaha wow jangbi has a shitload of arbiters, may as well use those to snipe as many tanks as possible
Hwasin ain't got shit for goliaths either.
Jangbi attacking 5 o'clock
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Basically, this game is terrible. They're both trying to attack and defend with armies that are really, really small because they couldn't defend their econ investments.
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hwasin MIGHT be mining on two bases [if his 3rd is up] compared to 3 for Jangbi, soon to be two.
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So ridiculous how JangBi was able to come back..
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wow.... 6 arbs... just stasis the better half of hwasin's army and demolishes the other half.
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Colloseum PvT is really hard to center fight. It's wiser to avoid terran a lot.
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Lol, I'm sorry but Jangbi does not deserve to win this. Sad times.
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Wow, Hwasin is proving that he cannot win a game.
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wow jangbi very nice killing 5 expo now
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holy shit, this game is pretty epic
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jangbi's arbs' 10 damage phase disruptors making the difference in this game
clearly hax
queen glave wurm -> removed
sci vessel missiles -> removed
protoss is the ez race
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this is over hwasin is barely mining, mass arbiter rocks lol
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hwasin has like six scv's mining...WOW. this is over
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Jangbi razes both the bases in lower right, has 2 bases in upper right. Hwasin is making good use of Emps, and in general making Jangbi micro.
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On December 28 2008 15:50 Fontong wrote:
Wow, Hwasin is proving that he cannot win a game.
jangbi is just abusing his 6 arbiters to the full extent that is possible and getting really nice recalls and stasis.
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holy fuck that was insane...
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On December 28 2008 15:49 QibingZero wrote:
Lol, I'm sorry but Jangbi does not deserve to win this. Sad times.
And Hwasin does? O.o
He's just the most overrated player ever
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You suck Hwasin
suck hard.
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wow hwasin played suprisingly well
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Omfg I can't believe Jangbi won that..
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That was a beautiful comeback.
But Jangbi is awful with Arbiters and shouldn't try to be Best.
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Geee Geeeeeee :D
The Archons and Zealots chasing the Tanks down was one of the coolest things I have seen in awhile .
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Looks like Jangbi has this, Hwasin doesn't have the expansions he needs. Yeah, CHE GE
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That match was hilarious lol.
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O.M.G. Those STX uniforms are sleek.
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On December 28 2008 15:51 spydernoob wrote:
wow hwasin played suprisingly well
what the fuck
he threw away a massive advantage
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Both played like shit. I thought Jangbi was going to dominate b/c he opened greedy as if Hwasin couldn't do shit against him (which he didn't) and then blew his advantage trying to play like Stork.
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wow AMAZING comeback by jangbi... I was sure hwasin had it when recalls failed
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July for Ace, July for Ace, come on...
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id love to see a jangbi vs kal grudge match
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Jangbi did a fantastic recall in the beginning, and everything after that was pure crap. Then he finally realized that he needed to do some shit or Hwasin decided it's his turn to be sloppy. And then Jangbi won. Yay.
That was entertaining to watch though.
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let me clarify/ he played well in the early to midgame
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LOL, late late game Colloseum is so hard for terran if they haven't killed P.
Arbiters are so abusive. Mech can't move fast enough. ~_~
Jangbi's PvT -_-;; lololol.
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On December 28 2008 15:51 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:50 Fontong wrote:
Wow, Hwasin is proving that he cannot win a game. jangbi is just abusing his 6 arbiters to the full extent that is possible and getting really nice recalls and stasis.
He wasn't even, really. Hwasin's EMPs were better targetted - Jangbi just had assloads of arbiters the entire game.
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wow Hwasin you suck -.-
if he had made goliaths at ANY point during midgame, he would have been able to keep arbiter numbers down and won
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hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw
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Man that was prob. the worst PvT I've seen from both players in a long time :O
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On December 28 2008 15:53 Ideas wrote:
Man that was prob. the worst PvT I've seen from both players in a long time :O
Agree
and im not even a fan of stx.
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Awesome game. Hwasin showing better play than I expected and didn't just roll over.
Ace? Has to be Jangbi IMO for Khan given that STX has both zerg and protoss. I think Calm for STX.
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On December 28 2008 15:53 Bill307 wrote:
It's like, "When Jangbi came out with 12 zeals, I JIZZED IN MY PANTS."
ROFL.
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On December 28 2008 15:51 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:50 Fontong wrote:
Wow, Hwasin is proving that he cannot win a game. jangbi is just abusing his 6 arbiters to the full extent that is possible and getting really nice recalls and stasis.
It's just that Hwasin had wayyy to few goliaths, he really should have won that. Jangbi was looking terrible especially after 2 stupid recalls that did no damage.
Neither player deserved to win that, especially not Jangbi.
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I enjoyed this game, stop ruining my fun people
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On December 28 2008 15:53 Ideas wrote:
Man that was prob. the worst PvT I've seen from both players in a long time :O
hell nah
slugfest's fun too
doesn't have to be super neat game to be a gg
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On December 28 2008 15:52 QibingZero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:51 rushz0rz wrote:On December 28 2008 15:50 Fontong wrote:
Wow, Hwasin is proving that he cannot win a game. jangbi is just abusing his 6 arbiters to the full extent that is possible and getting really nice recalls and stasis. He wasn't even, really. Hwasin's EMPs were better targetted - Jangbi just had assloads of arbiters the entire game.
Yea, Jangbi's micro was so bad. Like both of them had so much energy it was hard not to use all that spell casting. Look how many of Jangbi's Templar were sniped or just didn't cast storm? Or the number of units that just ran into mines? That game was terrible terrible.
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On December 28 2008 15:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw
I say this all the time, people fail to interpet statistics properly or meaningfully.
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On December 28 2008 15:53 Bill307 wrote:Wow, the fans get so excited over a little macro. It's like, "When Jangbi came out with 12 zeals, I JIZZED IN MY PANTS."
lol nice one
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Hwasin needs to change his name to 2007. Because that is the last time he was good.
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Yes hot girl to make up for the shitty game!
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damn..invincible jangbi
funnest player to watch
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On December 28 2008 15:54 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw I say this all the time, people fail to interpet statistics properly or meaningfully.
I say this all the time xD
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Wow, this is the first time I've seen anybody say anything negative about jangbi's pvt ever.
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On December 28 2008 15:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw
Hey, then you need to consider his wins to Bisu. All three of them.
That was a low-blow.
You could say the same thing about Much's PvZ.
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On December 28 2008 15:53 Ideas wrote:
Man that was prob. the worst PvT I've seen from both players in a long time :O
That is so true. I can't think of a worst PvT right now.
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On December 28 2008 15:52 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:51 spydernoob wrote:
wow hwasin played suprisingly well what the fuck he threw away a massive advantage
People need to explain statements like this. What exactly did he throw away? Was he ever up in bases? He did a damn good job considering he was dealing with fast arbiters he wasn't exactly prepared for, and especially considering the limitations of not having mobility on a large map like that.
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the game reminded me too much of nony vs kunio
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On December 28 2008 15:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw Hey, then you need to consider his wins to Bisu. All three of them. That was a low-blow. You could say the same thing about Much's PvZ.
low blow against whom? I like both jangbi and hwasin
and who does much lose his pvz to? wait, don't tell me, I don't care, never cared for much xO
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The outfit on that girl emphasizes/highlights her boobs. Anyone else notice?
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On December 28 2008 15:57 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 28 2008 15:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw Hey, then you need to consider his wins to Bisu. All three of them. That was a low-blow. You could say the same thing about Much's PvZ. and who does much lose his pvz to? never cared for much xO
Do you mean besides Mumyung?
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On December 28 2008 15:58 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:57 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 28 2008 15:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 28 2008 15:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw Hey, then you need to consider his wins to Bisu. All three of them. That was a low-blow. You could say the same thing about Much's PvZ. and who does much lose his pvz to? never cared for much xO Do you mean besides Mumyung?
I meant last season.
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On December 28 2008 15:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The outfit on that girl emphasizes/highlights her boobs. Anyone else notice?
Did you think they were using a girl to explain a game because of her talent?
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Jangbi had to micro his arbs to avoid emp so his unit control wasn't that great, esp during that first push. Hwasin had like 5 science vessels waiting to get that lucky emp on jangbi's arb clump.
Also, his 2 recalls into hwasin's 2nd expo weren't that bad. They at least came even since jangbi killed a bunch of tanks and scvs in both of them, esp the 2nd recall on the 2nd expo.
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On December 28 2008 15:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The outfit on that girl emphasizes/highlights her boobs. Anyone else notice?
I think they are fake, I've never seen a korean with boobs that big.
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On December 28 2008 15:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The outfit on that girl emphasizes/highlights her boobs. Anyone else notice?
They are pretty big...
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That chick has sexy legs :O
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On December 28 2008 15:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The outfit on that girl emphasizes/highlights her boobs. Anyone else notice?
I think your just projecting ..... why would a gaming channel care about boobs?
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On December 28 2008 15:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The outfit on that girl emphasizes/highlights her boobs. Anyone else notice? Every girl on tv is always hot, has big boobs, usually shows a lot of skin, and does what she can to make her male viewers horny. Its what works, lets be honest. lol.
Edit: Studies have actually shown that male recall is attached to facts and not emotional based content, but when sex is involved, males remember only that which makes them horny, and tend to "forget" everything else in the situation.
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Much's losses to Jaedong/Luxury make up a third of his total losses in PvZ.
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i'm sorry, but much's just weak in pvz in general
which P ISN"T WEAK TO jaedong? why waste time saying that?
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Oh god Jangbi/Kal MSL rematch! Hype!
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Jangbi vs Kal.
Gooooooooooo JANGBI
You can't lose after winning that last game.
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On December 28 2008 15:59 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:58 Fontong wrote:On December 28 2008 15:57 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 28 2008 15:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 28 2008 15:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
hwasin's tvp's not as bad as people think, of his 26 losses, 10 are to bisu
he's just bad vs bisu
nice tvp slugfest btw Hey, then you need to consider his wins to Bisu. All three of them. That was a low-blow. You could say the same thing about Much's PvZ. and who does much lose his pvz to? never cared for much xO Do you mean besides Mumyung? I meant last season.
Yeah, It is true that his PvZ was good last season. Pretty damn good actually, then he just lost a bunch of games to Jaedong, Lux, and Hoejja. No shame in that I guess. Besides those losses he looks pretty good.
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Stork vs calm i'm betting.
Edit: nvm, its kal vs jangbi
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On December 28 2008 15:56 QibingZero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:52 Puosu wrote:On December 28 2008 15:51 spydernoob wrote:
wow hwasin played suprisingly well what the fuck he threw away a massive advantage People need to explain statements like this. What exactly did he throw away? Was he ever up in bases? He did a damn good job considering he was dealing with fast arbiters he wasn't exactly prepared for, and especially considering the limitations of not having mobility on a large map like that.
Jangbi basically takes a greedy build and gains a massive advantage. He hard counters Hwasin build. Like he could have not entered mid-game better. He sees the dropship tech, still lets it take down his fourth.
Jangbi then double expands to bottom left. Hwasin takes it down. At this point, Hwasin is ahead (I actually think they're about even) Hwasin double expands as does Jangbi.
They basically start stabbing at each other, like 10 units at a time, until Jangbi has 6 arbs and Hwasin has 4-8 vessels. They start spell casting each other with no fighting units. Jangbi eventually wins because Arbs can stasis AND do 10 damage and eventually goes on to win the game.
It was a terrible game.
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On December 28 2008 15:53 Bill307 wrote:Wow, the fans get so excited over a little macro. It's like, "When Jangbi came out with 12 zeals, I JIZZED IN MY PANTS."
I was reading this post and I JIZZED IN MY PANTS.
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On December 28 2008 15:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The outfit on that girl emphasizes/highlights her boobs. Anyone else notice?
The outfit makes her head look too small for the rest of her body. It's unnerving.
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Haha. The "blur" to hide the players' identities doesn't work nearly as well when it's Kal. The guy must be at least 6-3.
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Cmon, Kal, you and your massive jaw must win so khan will lose!
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Oh wow, that was my first time watching an ACE match revealment, so dramatic, a bit too dramatic.
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jangbi gooooooooo
gotta love grudge matches
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On December 28 2008 16:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Much's losses to Jaedong/Luxury make up a third of his total losses in PvZ.
And luxury isn't even very good at ZvP. -.-
Much's sweet probe micro and crazy play make up for it though.
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Who called the Kal-Jangbi grudge match? Props to them.
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good thing i traded for jangbi!
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rofl at anouncers reading for the khan
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SCREW THIS NO HOTLINKING THINGS
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Club Day MSL Ro4 rematch.
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what? by the khan for the khan there fore khan win
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Shank toss/Kal/Goojilla fighting!!! Epic clash between 2 of the 6 dragons.
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It's official folks! Samsung KHAN win!
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BY THE KHAN FOR THE KHAN OF THE KHAN THEREFORE SAMSUNG KHAN
WIN
edit: lol what a funny sign (i hope samsung loses)
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Whoa, two of the dragons face each other O_o
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I wanted bogus-fbh grudge match lol
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On December 28 2008 16:02 QibingZero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Much's losses to Jaedong/Luxury make up a third of his total losses in PvZ. And luxury isn't even very good at ZvP. -.- Much's sweet probe micro and crazy play make up for it though.
Luxury's 6-2 against Much. That's skewed.
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says vs july in the predictions, wtufx, july will win even though he isn't playing?
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i hate both of these tosses.
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On December 28 2008 16:04 benjammin wrote:
ugh how long were u waiting for that? ^^
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On December 28 2008 16:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
BY THE KHAN FOR THE KHAN OF THE KHAN THEREFORE SAMSUNG KHAN
WIN
edit: lol what a funny sign (i hope samsung loses)
Awesome sign, awesome announcing.
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Hoped for July! But considering how much he must have been working on that build versus fbh I imagine he was not enthusiastic about being ace.
Come on Goojilla, use your megaton breath attack!
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On December 28 2008 16:04 CrimsonCaper wrote:
says vs july in the predictions, wtufx, july will win even though he isn't playing?
Predictions were made before the game started.
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On December 28 2008 16:04 CrimsonCaper wrote:
says vs july in the predictions, wtufx, july will win even though he isn't playing?
That was a prediction for who he thought will be playing the ACE match.
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On December 28 2008 16:04 rushz0rz wrote:i hate both of these tosses.
Me too, but I prefer Khan over STX. Go JangBi.
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On December 28 2008 16:01 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 15:56 QibingZero wrote:On December 28 2008 15:52 Puosu wrote:On December 28 2008 15:51 spydernoob wrote:
wow hwasin played suprisingly well what the fuck he threw away a massive advantage People need to explain statements like this. What exactly did he throw away? Was he ever up in bases? He did a damn good job considering he was dealing with fast arbiters he wasn't exactly prepared for, and especially considering the limitations of not having mobility on a large map like that. Jangbi basically takes a greedy build and gains a massive advantage. He hard counters Hwasin build. Like he could have not entered mid-game better. He sees the dropship tech, still lets it take down his fourth. Jangbi then double expands to bottom left. Hwasin takes it down. At this point, Hwasin is ahead (I actually think they're about even) Hwasin double expands as does Jangbi. They basically start stabbing at each other, like 10 units at a time, until Jangbi has 6 arbs and Hwasin has 4-8 vessels. They start spell casting each other with no fighting units. Jangbi eventually wins because Arbs can stasis AND do 10 damage and eventually goes on to win the game. It was a terrible game.
Your analysis is horrible. The biggest mistake is Janbi doubling bottom left. UM thats where Hwasin spawned douche.
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just in time for ace. nice
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On December 28 2008 16:04 benjammin wrote:
What about Stork vs Kal?
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On December 28 2008 16:02 thunk wrote:
Who called the Kal-Jangbi grudge match? Props to them. Me
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+ 08-11-13 ClubDay 2008 MSL (Twilight) Byzantium 2 (P)Kal Win
+ 08-11-13 ClubDay 2008 MSL (Jungle World) Athena 2 (P)Kal Win
+ 08-11-13 ClubDay 2008 MSL (Badlands) Destination (P)Kal Loss
+ 08-11-13 ClubDay 2008 MSL (Twilight) Medusa (P)Kal Win
+ 08-02-26 GOMTV MSL S4 (Jungle World) Loki II (P)Kal Loss
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+ 08-02-26 GOMTV MSL S4 (Jungle World) Loki II (P)Kal Win
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On December 28 2008 16:05 Shiznick wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
BY THE KHAN FOR THE KHAN OF THE KHAN THEREFORE SAMSUNG KHAN
WIN
edit: lol what a funny sign (i hope samsung loses)
Awesome sign, awesome announcing.
hell yea!
samsung ma win!!1
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On December 28 2008 16:06 hacpee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:01 thunk wrote:On December 28 2008 15:56 QibingZero wrote:On December 28 2008 15:52 Puosu wrote:On December 28 2008 15:51 spydernoob wrote:
wow hwasin played suprisingly well what the fuck he threw away a massive advantage People need to explain statements like this. What exactly did he throw away? Was he ever up in bases? He did a damn good job considering he was dealing with fast arbiters he wasn't exactly prepared for, and especially considering the limitations of not having mobility on a large map like that. Jangbi basically takes a greedy build and gains a massive advantage. He hard counters Hwasin build. Like he could have not entered mid-game better. He sees the dropship tech, still lets it take down his fourth. Jangbi then double expands to bottom left. Hwasin takes it down. At this point, Hwasin is ahead (I actually think they're about even) Hwasin double expands as does Jangbi. They basically start stabbing at each other, like 10 units at a time, until Jangbi has 6 arbs and Hwasin has 4-8 vessels. They start spell casting each other with no fighting units. Jangbi eventually wins because Arbs can stasis AND do 10 damage and eventually goes on to win the game. It was a terrible game. Your analysis is horrible. The biggest mistake is Janbi doubling bottom left. UM thats where Hwasin spawned douche.
That seems...unnecessary.
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I just noticed that corinthos stream has a chat nice!.
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Kal White P7 (Yellow P7? Who knows)
Jangbi Blue P3.
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Jangbi 5-4 against kal 3-1 recently...he'll probably win. Pvp looked much sharper, but Jangbi has been a little sloppy since his loss to Bisu. If "Good" kal shows up, he has a good chance. Otherwise Jangbi should roll this.
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looks like 1 gate core for both players
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Jangbi 3
Kal 7
Anyone need LR?
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On December 28 2008 16:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
BY THE KHAN FOR THE KHAN OF THE KHAN THEREFORE SAMSUNG KHAN
WIN
edit: lol what a funny sign (i hope samsung loses)
sig changed to awesome sign writing
feel the KHAN!!!
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Manner pylon by Jangbi. Two of them.
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On December 28 2008 16:08 malongo wrote:
I just noticed that corinthos stream has a chat nice!.
I'll see your 'hi' and raise you a 'hey'.
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jangbi taking a page out of kals book ;o
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double manner pylong by jangbi
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Sick double manner pylon by Jangbi. AND he gets Kal's probe.
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hahahaha wow jangbi got 2 manner pylons and kal got none.... this is so bad for Kal now.
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Jangbi double manner'd kal, and kal lost his scouting probe, and he added one more manner pylon trapping two more probes
kal is done
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AND HE TRAPPED 2 PROBES IN THE BACK!
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is that another pylon by Jangbi? That makes three.
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FOURTH manner pylon. Somebody stop this guy.
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added one more pylon right after it got destroyed.
now janbi has zealot raping probes inside kal's base
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omg AND AFTER KAL KILLED 1 PYLON, JANGBI REPLACED IT
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Jangbi's zeal's rallying in, Jangbi trying to kill probes. But they're all trapped behind manner pylongs, so he can't get to them.
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hahaha omg crazy manner pylons
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khan tosses are amazingly good... but without em, theyre pretty bad.
kinda like SKT, where bisu and best hold the fort, but the others still lose it.
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4th manner pylon! New record?
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Jangbi should have just gone all the way: double manner forge!
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zealot killed 2 probes.
now janbi has two zealots raping one both sides, I think three probes have died in total.
J still has one more zealot.
Manner pylon still trapping a probe
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Core-> gate for Kal (while this is all giong on).
I think Gate up for Jangbi, I don't think he has core though they didn't get a good shot of his base.
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OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG PYLON MASSSSS
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Wow, probe gets trapped behind minerals. What?
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god, this is like a pvp nightmare when this kind of shit happens. may as well type gg if they get 3 good manner pylons and you cant do the same to them.
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6 probes have died by my count.
J is upgrading range and making goons from two gates
one zealot still trying to kill probes
kill is on one gate
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Commentator 1: AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Commentator 2: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Commentator 3: AHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHH
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kal has slowned mining becuase of pylons and he just lost a few to zealot
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Jangbi has core. Kal has range spinning and has finally cleared out his main. Jangbi didn't have range spinning though.
Kal going DT>
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Kal just put down citadel of adun, going for quick DT as last resort.
junbi doesn't have robo up yet...
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two gate ranged goons vs one gate range + citadel for kal
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lol, Jangbi's been practicing his proxy plays since MSL finals it seems.
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kal going dt as an attempt to surprise jangbi and get back in this. but a robo goes up for jangbi.
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robo for janbi now, its over
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On December 28 2008 16:12 Fontong wrote:
Jangbi should have just gone all the way: double manner forge!
Yea, I thought he was going to forge too.
Jangbi has 2 gates, range spinning, Robo up.
Kal has templar up.
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janbi robo up, and is now about 1/3 done.
Should be in time if he makes ob right away
kal put down archive
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J has a much larger army thanks to his superior econ.
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Kal --> Dt's, Jangbi --> robo bay
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Jangbi's range finished, and he has more units for some reason. Jangbi better not skip obs.
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it could be gg right here actually...
5 goons vs 2 zealots + 3 goons
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shuttle before obs for jangbi
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Whew. He made an observatory.
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Kal is doing a good job pushing janbi back.
Jangbi is adding obe, should be okay for DT
Jangbi pushing kal all the way inside his base
Kal DT out, jangbi pulls back his goons.
Kal needs a fucking miracle.
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dragoon vs. dragoon with nice micro is the best battle to watch in StarCraft. Overall, Dragoon micro is wonderful to watch, ranked second after shuttle/reaver.
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Jangbi's small unit micro'ing for all it's worth. Secures himself a nice advantage. I think Jangbi delayed obs though...a little bit. Not much, he'll have obs out in time.
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kal shows his dt's, he has basically lost. I cant see him coming back from this deficit.
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On December 28 2008 16:14 thunk wrote:
Jangbi's range finished, and he has more units for some reason.
he had two gates
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Ooh, that was some tricky micro from both sides.
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Kal expands at min-only.
Obe out, dt dies
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Kal just threw up his second gate.
Jangbi shows that it takes two volleys from 10 dragoons to kill a DT.
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Kal is so badly outnumbered.
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Reaver. What an overkill this will be.
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a reaver in the butt will end it here
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kal adds a battery and a third gate.
jangbi presumably building reaver, expanded at nat
reaver out, picked up by shuttle.
Kal in full defensive mode.
Jangbi has about 10 goons and a reaver against 6 goons + dt + battery
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this should be over in a second unless jangbi forgets his obs and never notices a dt.
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Reaver out for Jangbi. The expo for Jangbi will be up soon too.
Kal too high ground min only and set himself up in a defensive position in his main. Micro micro micro.
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this is a rape and a half...
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OMG, Jangbi is not moving out with his vastly superior army. I think he's waiting for reaver harass first.
My stream is slow.
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hahaha WOW... that shuttle/reaver micro RAPED Kal so fucking hard.
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Jangbi's going to handily take this battle and that will be GG.
Kal gg's. Jangbi takes Ace.
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GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
RAPED since beginning...
Fucking janbi BALLER
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FUCK
had to play kal on a day
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4 manner pylons + zeal harass destroyed Kal's economy.
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thank god zerg have creep
don't have to deal with this manner pylon crap
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GG. Jangbi rapes Kal and his DTs.
Twin Toss Towers carry it through for KHAN.
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A silver crown in addition to this ownage
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Tossgirl looks good still
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Holy shit! Jangbi's 3-0 this month in ace game. He's playing just ridiculous right now.
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Kal raped by both of the twin cannons.
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damnnn Kal got toyed with ;o
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anyone got their money on pepe later today??
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QUADRUPLE MANNER PYLON
SERIOUSLY THAT WAS SO BALLER
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jangbi played ace and now hes off to play in gom, what a hero. ;]
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That was a pretty thorough beatdown handed out by Jangbi. Congrats to him for getting the silver crown ranking.
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Well, recommended games: I don't know about Kal-Stork, but July-FBH was really good and if you're into ZvZ BO's Calm-Odin was slick. The rest of them weren't really watching.
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the samsung dragons rule the day
stx dragoon wooped twice xO
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That's what STX gets for not putting out TUSHIN
HE WHO DEVOURS KHAN
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FUCK!
You know the nice thing about creep, no manner pylons. July could have pulled a standard game out of his ass and played better than that.
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4 manner pylons TT just gg right there
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what's the highest ranking? gold crown?
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FBH getting embarrassed and Kal going 0-2
A good day.
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On December 28 2008 16:18 Onisparda wrote:
A silver crown in addition to this ownage
what's this silver crown for?
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
That was so GOOD by Jangbi OMG
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Why didn't they just play July again? Khan's got nothing for it.
On December 28 2008 16:19 Cambium wrote:
what's the highest ranking? gold crown?
They would keep going I'm guessing. Each crown is ten wins, I'm assuming from what we have so far since whenever a player reaches 10 wins, they get a silver crown.
10=Silver<--I'm sure of this.
20=Gold<=Guess
30=Platinum<=Guess
40=Diamond<=Guess
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apparently, games get evaluated (somehow) immediately after they are played.
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lol replay, everybody left already
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On December 28 2008 16:20 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Why didn't they just play July again? Khan's got nothing for it.
July probably only prepared one strat, and FBH would have raped July straight up...
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Does this put KHAN into first or just behind Lecaf still?
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Apparently the crown stuff isn't off straight wins.
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I don't care what anyone says, I enjoyed Jangbi VS Hwasin, and if you heard the screaming during the latter half of the game, it's easy to see the masses of korean spectators enjoyed them as well
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On December 28 2008 16:19 Ideas wrote:
That's what STX gets for not putting out TUSHIN
HE WHO DEVOURS KHAN
Yeah really, July would have wiped the floor with jangbi's dumpy ass. I mean really, July just owned the Terran ace for Khan, they really should have sent him out. But I guess they plan it beforehand or something...
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On December 28 2008 16:21 Balfazar wrote:
Does this put KHAN into first or just behind Lecaf still?
lecaf just killed ace 3-0
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They should have put up Julyfat. Kal got beaten quite handily.
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half a star per win, crown for ten wins and reset the star counter, pretty sure that is all that there is to it.
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On December 28 2008 16:22 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:19 Ideas wrote:
That's what STX gets for not putting out TUSHIN
HE WHO DEVOURS KHAN Yeah really, July would have wiped the floor with jangbi's dumpy ass. I mean really, July just owned the Terran ace for Khan, they really should have sent him out. But I guess they plan it beforehand or something...
I think they were afraid of FBH being sent for ace and July not having a build prepared for Medusa (or maybe he was rusty in ZvP because he practiced hardcore ZvT for his game vs FBH or something).
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On December 28 2008 16:23 Deletrious wrote:
half a star per win, crown for ten wins and reset the star counter, pretty sure that is all that there is to it.
ahh okay, thanks
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putting up kal was the conservative move
khan knew that of course
kal vs july woulda been pimp
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On December 28 2008 16:24 .risingdragoon wrote:
putting up kal was the conservative move
khan knew that of course
kal vs july woulda been pimp
How would that ever happen?
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On December 28 2008 16:24 .risingdragoon wrote:
putting up kal was the conservative move
khan knew that of course
kal vs july woulda been pimp
lol what? you mean jangbi vs july?
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The Samsung Dragons are breathing fire tonight, I almost feel sorry for pepe and Backho .
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I know July is a risk since they had fbh, but with both stork and jangbi winning, Khan would be making a hell of a gamble to put fbh out there. Maybe its decided before hand, but in hindsight July is the really obvious choice.
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okay time to kill that buddha
ahem jangbi vs july!!!!
On December 28 2008 16:26 Deletrious wrote:
I know July is a risk since they had fbh, but with both stork and jangbi winning, Khan would be making a hell of a gamble to put fbh out there. Maybe its decided before hand, but in hindsight July is the really obvious choice.
nah July is a risk cus they know samsung's gonna send a P onto medusa
kal's the right choice, jangbi just played better
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Shoulda put july in. I've been saying it all night >_>
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Any fucking way, July goes to 8 wins 4 losses in proleague, and has a great game versus one of the top three tvz terrans. He is looking good, I think he can go far in OSL again.
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July wasn't set up to take another game tonight. He had a special build prepared against FBH but that stuff really isn't made up on the spot anymore. He had to practice that build many times and he wouldn't have been able to work the same magic in a different matchup, a different map, and a different game.
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On December 28 2008 16:27 .risingdragoon wrote:okay time to kill that buddha ahem jangbi vs july!!!! Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:26 Deletrious wrote:
I know July is a risk since they had fbh, but with both stork and jangbi winning, Khan would be making a hell of a gamble to put fbh out there. Maybe its decided before hand, but in hindsight July is the really obvious choice. nah July is a risk cus they know samsung's gonna send a P onto medusa kal's the right choice, jangbi just played better
Yeah there is map balance to consider, but July's game versus protoss has been probably the best in starcraft, ehh sour grapes. fuck it.
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On December 28 2008 16:29 thunk wrote:
July wasn't set up to take another game tonight. He had a special build prepared against FBH but that stuff really isn't made up on the spot anymore. He had to practice that build many times and he wouldn't have been able to work the same magic in a different matchup, a different map, and a different game.
In interviews most players say they dont individually practice very much for ace match its kind of a wingit thing so July would have been fine.
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On December 28 2008 16:36 arb wrote:
....fbh what the fuck?
MINDFUCKED
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lol
kill expo
fail recall
epic fail recall
kill probes
kill probes
kill units for free
kill probes
????
terran gets raped
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On December 28 2008 17:04 IdrA wrote:
lol
kill expo
fail recall
epic fail recall
kill probes
kill probes
kill units for free
kill probes
????
terran gets raped
Yeah, pretty much sums it up. Jangbi played that game zerg-style and just put up bases faster than Hwasin can take them down. Freaking ridiculous what godly macro allows you to get away with.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On December 28 2008 17:04 IdrA wrote:
lol
kill expo
fail recall
epic fail recall
kill probes
kill probes
kill units for free
kill probes
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terran gets raped
terran too strong
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Yeah July, yeah, yeah, yeah! 
Where's your ceremony now FBeatcH?
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Good job KHAN : 3-2
July win vs FBH ? I go to watch the torrent on yaoyuan O_O;
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July used the same build Gorush used vs Savior on destination I think based on what I read in the live reports.
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Khan protoss to the rescue! Looking forward to the FBH July game VOD though.
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Why not july as ACE player vs such a protoss heavy team? O_O
Then again shity protoss favoured ace map.
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sad that stx lost Hwasin was so close to end this all. I can't understand why they never take july.. he wasn't an ace player for ... 1 year? I think he's a pretty strong player and especially in ZvP he has big chances of winning.
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Damn i wanted July in the ace match . Never doubted him even for a second againts FBH . I knew that he would rape FBH the moment i saw that he was matched against him , because The God oF War spares no one , not even FBH  .
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wait wtf stork > kal? july > fbh? what the hell happened
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On December 28 2008 17:04 IdrA wrote:
lol
kill expo
fail recall
epic fail recall
kill probes
kill probes
kill units for free
kill probes
????
terran gets raped
I guess thats the price hwasin pays for allowing jangbi to go fast arbiters.
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Kal was really off today. Btw, Jangbi played brilliantly in both games.
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On December 29 2008 01:34 hacpee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 17:04 IdrA wrote:
lol
kill expo
fail recall
epic fail recall
kill probes
kill probes
kill units for free
kill probes
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terran gets raped I guess thats the price hwasin pays for allowing jangbi to go fast arbiters.
You can't really stop a protoss from going fast arbiters...
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I made a picture.
July vs FBH rocked.
This is my tribute:
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On December 28 2008 18:36 samachking wrote:
July used the same build Gorush used vs Savior on destination I think based on what I read in the live reports.
WTF are u talking about ? How Gorush can use something vs Savior on destination ?
I cant undestand u . My BRAIN cant read this
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On December 29 2008 06:56 Trozz wrote:I made a picture. July vs FBH rocked. This is my tribute:
That is a really awesome picture. But why Ace Boxer when SKT Boxer was so rapetastic?
lol @ tossgirl and Jaedong
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wow 4 wins for Jangbi in one night gj!
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On December 29 2008 07:37 ambit!ous1 wrote:
wow 4 wins for Jangbi in one night gj!
well it was pepe >..>
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Jangbi is a beast. If he can improve his PvP he'll be unstoppable.
July raping FBH was awesome.
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On December 28 2008 17:04 IdrA wrote:
lol
kill expo
fail recall
epic fail recall
kill probes
kill probes
kill units for free
kill probes
????
terran gets raped
haha, pvt is such a balanced mu yes?
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On December 28 2008 17:04 IdrA wrote:
lol
kill expo
fail recall
epic fail recall
kill probes
kill probes
kill units for free
kill probes
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terran gets raped Well thats not an accurate depiction of the game...but sure....
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ya i only came in when it was equal bases and jangbi threw away 4 groups of units and 3 arbiters for 20 scvs, i mightve missed something before that.
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Idra you forget to mention that jangbi had 3 bases up and running very steady while doing the recalls on the 2 expo's of hwasin that killed a ton of scv's and a decent amount of vultures, effectively keeping hwasin in his base. Meanwhile Hwasin spends time attacking an expansion that jangbi didn't even need at the moment anyway, and spends way too much time there. By the time hwasin attacks jangbi's natural jangbi already has 2 expansions at the bottom up and running.
Hwasin never really came close to gaining an edge, when he finally wreaks havok at the bottom at the 20 minute mark he leaves his base behind way too vulnerable.
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anyone who can clarify what the crowns represents?
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On December 29 2008 13:09 parkin wrote:
anyone who can clarify what the crowns represents?
Silver crown = 10 wins.
I haven't seen any other types of crowns.
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On December 29 2008 07:03 monstar123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:36 samachking wrote:
July used the same build Gorush used vs Savior on destination I think based on what I read in the live reports. WTF are u talking about ? How Gorush can use something vs Savior on destination ? I cant undestand u . My BRAIN cant read this
Sorry, It was on Desperado, and Savior did play Terran in that match and it was epic humiliation. It was a real progame and not a joke.
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SHIT i still cant get over how fucking amazing that July game was.
Games like that are the reason he is my favorite player :D
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