The reason it's so frustrating is that there's so much hope. The newcomers (Hoejja, Tempest, Stats) all have heaps of potential and Luxury might step it back up any day now. If they would start winning some games, we could see KTF compete with the likes of Samsung and Lecaf - but until then, we just have to pray that Flash is allowed to play a second time.

Cambium

United States16368 Posts

December 27 2008 07:25 GMT

#187

On December 27 2008 16:15 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Does anyone have the total win/loss (individual game wise) record for KTF?

34-37 as of Dec. 22

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80882

Avidkeystamper

United States8552 Posts

December 27 2008 07:30 GMT

#188

On December 27 2008 16:25 Cambium wrote:

Show nested quote +

34-37 as of Dec. 22

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80882

So Flash is 17-6, rest of team is 21-36. Ouch.

Rostam

United States2552 Posts

December 27 2008 07:33 GMT

#189

On December 27 2008 16:30 Avidkeystamper wrote:

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So Flash is 17-6, rest of team is 21-36. Ouch.

Wouldn't they be 18-34? Assuming that the 34-37 was already counting their match on Dec. 22.

Hot_Bid

Braavos36374 Posts

December 27 2008 08:11 GMT

#190

hehe why do people keep saying BC is fucking around when late game against survivor mode zerg, BC's are way better than more vessels because:

a) you already have a lot of vessels to take care of and you rarely use all the irradiates
b) BCs don't require a lot of babysitting, you just move and attack and leave them
c) BCs can harass expos that ground armies can't (due to lurker+swarm)
d) BCs require a ton of gas for the Z to kill, which really really hurts the starving survivorzerg

BCs are the smart, proper choice to maintain the lead, not fuck around!

SuperJongMan

Jamaica11586 Posts

December 27 2008 16:30 GMT

#191

On December 27 2008 16:24 Tianx wrote:
The reason it's so frustrating is that there's so much hope. The newcomers (Hoejja, Tempest, Stats) all have heaps of potential and Luxury might step it back up any day now.

lol.. delusional hopes of KTF fans.

I just wanted to say Light is on fire and Super Terran User Light is back!!!!
He still sucks at TvT like he used to, but even then, his losses have been only TvT to the best

mog87

United States1586 Posts

December 27 2008 16:42 GMT

#192

On December 28 2008 01:30 SuperJongMan wrote:

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His play against Forgg was excellent..against Mind not so much..but Mind can beat anyone in TvT and has done so, (maybe not fbh on record?)

Lukeeze[zR]

Switzerland6838 Posts

December 27 2008 17:59 GMT

#193

Sea and Light are solid PL performers, but i'd like to see ruby getting more playtime too ~_~

Ver

United States2186 Posts

December 27 2008 19:12 GMT

#194

Mind has never beaten Flash ^_^ (0-4)

Luxury is so bad after coming to KTF sheesh. I can't believe KTF is doing worse than last season with him; although having Lucifer suck now does hurt.

eXigent.

Canada2419 Posts

December 27 2008 19:40 GMT

#195

I really enjoyed the game between sea and tempest. Sea fought off a strong push that broke his wall, and would normally be extremely hard to stop. From there, he stops a reaver combined with shuttle elevator, and still manages to use his vultures to kill enough probes from tempest's 3 bases to get him back into the game. It was a really nice display of holding alot of pressure, and then finding a way to catch back up.

mog87

United States1586 Posts

December 27 2008 20:12 GMT

#196

On December 28 2008 04:12 Ver wrote:
Mind has never beaten Flash ^_^ (0-4)

Luxury is so bad after coming to KTF sheesh. I can't believe KTF is doing worse than last season with him; although having Lucifer suck now does hurt.

I meant individual games..because He took a game off flash in the Gom suprise tournament finals (3-1 Flash).

DanceCommander

United States1808 Posts

December 27 2008 20:26 GMT

#197

yay sea beat tempest

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

December 27 2008 22:26 GMT

#198

On December 27 2008 17:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
hehe why do people keep saying BC is fucking around when late game against survivor mode zerg, BC's are way better than more vessels because:

a) you already have a lot of vessels to take care of and you rarely use all the irradiates
b) BCs don't require a lot of babysitting, you just move and attack and leave them
c) BCs can harass expos that ground armies can't (due to lurker+swarm)
d) BCs require a ton of gas for the Z to kill, which really really hurts the starving survivorzerg

BCs are the smart, proper choice to maintain the lead, not fuck around!

Yeah, I'd say they're a very good unit. If you have them as part of a ball they like never, ever die and clean up ultras quite nicely (and they one hit fairly damaged zerglings) Even with the loss of irradiate, Yamato is only 100/100 and actually better in a few instances because while it has a chargeup, the damage comes all at once. The ability to fly around and wreck expansions fairly easily once a certain number is reached is also quite nice.

Oh, and they cleanup doom drops without hydra or defilers like cake if you've built up enough of them and anticipated a drop. My friend dropped like 20 lurkers on me which ordinary would be a death sentence, but I killed them all and all he destroyed was like two barracks and a depot or two...

Fontong

United States6454 Posts

December 27 2008 23:51 GMT

#199

Ok, but from the fact his was floating a CC over Firefist's hatchery I was getting the impression that he was just being bm.

FF was taking a hell of a long time to leave.

huameng

United States1133 Posts

December 28 2008 00:00 GMT

#200

Well that base was actually closer to Light's base than Firefist's, I think he was just trying to expand there and then, "oh, look what we have here :|".

That being said, I hope he gets angry and plays a little better next game.