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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/pachi/banner/SPL_080930.png) Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 Round 2 Week 5
How to watch?
- Channel: OGN
- Daum Sports (low quality) :: DIRECT LINK
- Daum Player (high quality)
- Yaoyuan
- Daumsports WMP (hangs on VLC): pending - DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOUR DAUMSPORTS STREAM IS ALREADY PERFECT
- P2P Hanguo (Use Internet Explorer, click "P2P")
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man was wondering if people forgot about this lol... holiday season so its understandable
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Geee Sunyveil you sure do suck at making LR threads
At least TLPD-ize it.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Okk game starting Luxury is the purple zerg at 7, Hyun is the Red zerg at 1.
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wow, your stream is like 5 minutes ahead...
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Luxury with a slightly earlier lair timing, looks like both have expos but I wasn't paying attention to the drone timings.
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Hyun just broke Luxury's nat, has about 8-9 lings in his base and is killing the expo hatch.
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Russian Federation386 Posts
Replace WStars pic with KTF plz
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Hyun has a crapton more lings than luxury, his nat is going to die.
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Fast game is fast, Luxury gets kill by lings, GG!
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daum sports link leads to cj vs woonjin...
edit: nvm. fixed it
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wow cant get in2 teh stream 2 save my life
jesus
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On December 27 2008 14:07 Cambium wrote:
wow, your stream is like 5 minutes ahead...
Ok, looks like Boxer's natural is going to fall, yep thats it GG. Savior wins his 5th MSL.
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geez my fuckin stream stops every 5 seconds and has to buffer
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Corinthos
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Looks like I'll keep live reporting since no one else is getting a stream.
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Fuck what? With Luxury dropping game one, it looks like KTF's going to lose fielding the first decent (read: not retarded) lineup we have all season.
Also, Corinthos, you are a god.
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once again u save us.... thanks corinthos
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Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in. THANK YOU!
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Too much copy+paste from the other thread (the team pics don't match).
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Did Lux cancel his creep colony or did Hyun kill it? My stream is lagging so much I can't tell
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wow nvm not even cornithos's stream can help out.... ill just stay and listen 2 LR's then 
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ROFL as i say that my stream works... heh
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just in time for flash heh
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On December 27 2008 14:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Too much copy+paste from the other thread (the team pics don't match).
Yeah, he made the thread basically right when the stream went live. It just last minute since no one made it.
Looks like game 2 is about to start.
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Ok game starting
Flash is white at 11
Jaehoon is teal at 7
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Oh and by the way Flash is playing terran this game.
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ok how has noone caught this yet the OP put the wj/cj logos at the top and its mbc v ktf
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On December 27 2008 14:24 Kuja900 wrote:
ok how has noone caught this yet the OP put the wj/cj logos at the top and its mbc v ktf
omg..
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On December 27 2008 14:24 Kuja900 wrote:
ok how has noone caught this yet the OP put the wj/cj logos at the top and its mbc v ktf
I will shoot him an IM to fix it, lol.
Flash walling in and putting up a fac.
Jaehoon with 1 gate core and sending out a zlot to harass.
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On December 27 2008 14:26 ilovejonn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 14:24 Kuja900 wrote:
ok how has noone caught this yet the OP put the wj/cj logos at the top and its mbc v ktf omg..
you know what
NO LOGOS FOR YOU
I did the thread in like 2 seconds -.-
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Looks like Jaehoon is going DTs, he is hiding a citadel in the corner of his base.
Flash moving out with an FD, 5 rines 1 tank 1 SCV.
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Jaehoon is gonna lose his natural nexus, Flash just runs in and lays mines between the nat//main and kills it. He might get run over right now too.
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1 DT out, the game is going on to hinge on what happens with this one units. Or not, since Flash knows it is out.
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cmon flash sounds like u have the advantage
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holy hell my stream is laggy D:
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Jaehoon survives but is in terrible shape, Flash has his nat up and mining while Jaehoon lost his nat nexus and took some probe damage.
2nd fac going up for flash. He has mines and turrets in his main to defend the DTs.
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Jaehoon has so few probes mining, no nat and his DTs are failing to do damamge.
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On December 27 2008 14:12 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 14:07 Cambium wrote:
wow, your stream is like 5 minutes ahead... Ok, looks like Boxer's natural is going to fall, yep thats it GG. Savior wins his 5th MSL.
teehee
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streams horribly for me not even worth watching.
i c jaehoon putting his nat now and has a shuttle over flash ledge... slideshow npw
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flash: brb let me macro a bit, then I'll kill you
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Ok, so Jaehoon took the min only behind his base, I missed that. He has more probs than I thought then. Not that it matters.
Flash pushing out with a lot of vultures and 4 tanks. Jaehoon with about 12 goons.
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Jaehoon gets run over by vults and unseiged tanks, GG.
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Flash just pushed out and jaehoon gg. Too easy for Flash
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w/e flash wins im happy as is... stream is so bad mine as well catch vods later
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CA10825 Posts
someone gif the jaehoon dance
he's got some major chair micro
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Game summary:
Flash: Does a standard FD rush to expo.
Jaehoon: Does a 1gate core ---> DT rush while taking nat at same time:
Moral: Don't tech and expand at the same time.
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flash is a monster. check out tlpd. 10-0 TvT, very good in others. his "worst" mu is tvz probably only because jaedong is there
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At least Flash hasn't failed.
And the stream is sooo bad. I got up at freaking 6 am to watch that but the stream is sooooo bad... And somehow I can't use the link provided by Corinthos
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On December 27 2008 14:39 Lebesgue wrote:
At least Flash hasn't failed.
And the stream is sooo bad. I got up at freaking 6 am to watch that but the stream is sooooo bad... And somehow I can't use the link provided by Corinthos
I had the same problem. You need to be using IE and download TvAnts.
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^^I am using daum sports, It works fine for me almost all the time.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
loool Jaehoon upgrades AW 1 to trick flash but flash with his stingy personality sees the dragoon and just leaves hahahahaha
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I'm hoping that Sea vs Tempest will be an exciting game instead of a 1 sided rape like these other games have been. Also neo requiem will help Tempest, which he needs against free.
Edit: I mean, Sea
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On December 27 2008 14:42 Tianx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 14:39 Lebesgue wrote:
At least Flash hasn't failed.
And the stream is sooo bad. I got up at freaking 6 am to watch that but the stream is sooooo bad... And somehow I can't use the link provided by Corinthos I had the same problem. You need to be using IE and download TvAnts.
you just need to keep refreshing (f5) the page until the stream works smoothly. You can tell by how it buffers; if it buffers in increments of 15% or higher, it will probably work, if it's like 2-3% then you have to refresh it
(referring to DAUM sports
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United States12607 Posts
Let's go Sea!! Crush these KTF fools!
(OK seriously, Sea has to win because the only way to beat KTF is in 4 sets or less)
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Thanks guys. Hopefully it will work fine now.
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Tempest has had some exasperating games since beating Jaedong a few weeks ago. He has some talent, he just makes these awful mistakes.
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Ok looks like the game started:
Sea is the blue terran at 9
Tempest is the green protoss at 12
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I still hope that either Tempest or Firefist can take a game and then everything will be up to Flash.
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I really hope Tempest picks it up. His timing and mechanics seem good enough, but his decision-making is occasionally piss-poor.
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^^Edit: very true, the 3set of free vs tempest, it really pissed me off when tempest blew his lead and lost the game.
Sea is walling in. Tempest going gate core gate.
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Tempest gets reallly close toe breaking Sea's ramp, but spamming repair and a timely tank saves it. Seige mode out now so it looks like he will be OK.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
goddamn Sea is fucking amazing
its like he fucking has maphack or something
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Sea has a starport with add-on, could be he is getting wraiths to counter the popular shuttle builds that are used on this map.
Tempest with a shuttle out, he is bulldoging his way in!
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
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Sea gets his wall broken and loses all his tanks to the Bulldog! He needs another tank to pop now, Sea defending only with SCV!
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That was some baller defending by Sea
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Sea blocks everything! The proleague king definately!
Sea sees the robo bay too.
Sea might turn the game around very easily because this is neo requiem
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Sea gets another tank out and manages to force tempest out of his base. He lost a lot of SCV though, so he will be pretty behind. Tempest with no expo yet though.
Lol Sea with an SCV drop to scout Tempests base. cute!
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WOW maphack much tempest? kk
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Looks like an elevator maybe? Yes, Tempest drops a reaver with 6 goons in seas base. Yet again Sea loses all his tanks.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
omfg this game is fucking amazing
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i cant tell who's winning!
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Tempest double expanding now since Sea doesn't really have an army of any kind.
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Tempest with his nat nexus warped in and a 3rd warping now, it is spotted by vults though. Wraith out now for the shuttle. Sea with no expos still.
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Sea's doing an excellent job of harassing three bases with what little he has.
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Sea drops 2 tanks and 3 vultures behind Tempests base, stopping mining for a little bit. Tempest cleans it up. But Sea does another drop in Tempests main! this is very good play by sea.
Looks like Sea now has his nat as well while Tempest is only mining from 1 base due to harass.
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On December 27 2008 14:12 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 14:07 Cambium wrote:
wow, your stream is like 5 minutes ahead... Ok, looks like Boxer's natural is going to fall, yep thats it GG. Savior wins his 5th MSL.
Blasphemy, Boxer never has any MSL success.
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Sea setting up to push into Tempests nat. Protoss has no zlots to deal with this, he is pretty dead.
Oh wtf, that shouldnt have worked. Tempest blunted the push with just goons
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Sea is really doing a good job of coming back in this. He has just the right unit balance and positioning to enforce a mini-contain and Tempest just suicided a lot of 'goons trying to break it.
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Sea moving in, Tempest with no units left to defend with. This is GG for sure.
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Amazing play from Sea. What a game.
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United States20661 Posts
Tempest goes and chucks the game away after building a decent advantage.
Nice harass/push play by Sea though. Very retro.
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Tempest is fucked
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Double expo really backfired in this game. Sea had nothing for a while, but he kept a dropship, a couple of tanks, and and a few vultures and that was enough to keep Tempest subdued with harassment until Sea got his own Natural up and got a good army.
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Man watching Sea plays sometimes really make me wonder why he hasn't done squat in the starleagues up to now. Such a great comeback.
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HNNNNNGGGGHH FIREFISTTTT
BE THE CHAMPION OF THE ZERG RACE TONIGHT
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On December 27 2008 15:11 baubo wrote:
Man watching Sea plays sometimes really make me wonder why he hasn't done squat in the starleagues up to now. Such a great comeback.
I know what you mean. Sea makes some of the craziest comebacks.
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how the fuck did luxury lose
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you did good tempest! i liked the timings!... but sea played perfect d
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Someone pushes sea out of the chair, hahaha
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On December 27 2008 15:15 Dazed_Spy wrote:
how the fuck did luxury lose
he lost in ZvZ.
ZvZ.
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United States12607 Posts
On December 27 2008 15:15 Dazed_Spy wrote:
how the fuck did luxury lose
Hyun is pretty fucking good and Luxury...Lux is Lux, sometimes he plays like his head is a foot up his ass.
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On December 27 2008 15:17 MrHoon wrote:he lost in ZvZ. ZvZ.
Luxury is the 2nd Best ZvZ.
That's like + Show Spoiler +
Hyun sucks,
ZvAnything.
Okay, so he's not bad.
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I'm sensing mech build, unfortunately... It seems only Sea and FBH ever go 100% M&M anymore.
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Gogo Light, this is mechfailmap.
Looks like light comes in on the bottom at 5, Firefist at 11.
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All the hope in Firefist...
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c'mon Jae Ho kick his ass!
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On December 27 2008 15:17 MrHoon wrote:he lost in ZvZ. ZvZ. Yeah, thats my point.
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firefist checking for proxies with his ovies and drone to scout base
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Looks like he didn't wall in
seems to be going bio.
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12 hatch from Firefist, nothing special there.
Looks like no fast gas from Light so maybe no mech, but I could be wrong. Also Light didn't wall in, so probably no mech.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On December 27 2008 15:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 15:17 MrHoon wrote:On December 27 2008 15:15 Dazed_Spy wrote:
how the fuck did luxury lose he lost in ZvZ. ZvZ. Yeah, thats my point.
its more of a rock-paper scissor lineup than everything
I didn't see the game but I doubt Luxury lost in a muta micro battle.
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Lol? Was Light checking for a proxy hatch or somthing? He scouted the expo at 8 with a marine.
Maybe he was looking to snipe an overlord.
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Firefist looked surprised.
"wut no mech?"
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Light going for a fast CC, he expanded with only 4 marines no bunker.
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Oh Light is moving out with about 10 marine 2 medic, and he runs by the sunkens!!!
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AHH...oh. Light's runby kills some drones but fails when he lingers in the nat too long. Mutas pop and kill his force just before they can deal damage. Few turrets for light now.
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Odd, FF has not seemed to take a 3rd
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5 marines 2 firebats stop FF's 3rd from morphing, gets cleaned up though. Light moving into the center with a fairly large MM force.
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Lurkers are out now, Firefist has a decent army but no 3rd base to speak of.
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This is reminiscent of last season's TvZ's. Ugh.
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it seems firefist is great at micro/macro individually but multitask is what he doesn't seem to excel in
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Can't anybody pull through for KTFlash?
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HE IS FUCKED WITH THOSE LURKERS
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Light is moving out with his Tank MM ball now, 1st vessel out. FF's 3rd is up now, pretty late though. Firefists army is just being trapped in a corner and forced back. He is just being forced back and whittled down with no possibility of a flank.
2nd army for FF is ready and defilers are popping.
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MrHoon
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On December 27 2008 15:31 darktreb wrote:
Can't anybody pull through for KTFlash?
I remember at the start of Proleague Flash and Luxury was such a great combo
but then Lux started slumping ever since that defeat from Bisu
And now he looks like Goodfriend.
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Control fail as about 20 lings get aggro'd and suicide into the terran ball. Even more suiciding now.
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JESUS WHAT WAS THAT?
THOSE LURKERS JUST GO INTO RANGE
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Terrible control from Firefist, units suiciding into the terran army all over the place. The zerg and terran are both on 3 base right now. Drops in FF main kill all the drones before getting cleaned up.
Only dark swarm is preventing FF from being run over by Light right now.
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That was the most fail display of defiler control and scourge I've seen.
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Ahh this is onesided rape.
Those lurkers got cornered in the beginning and it was all downhill from there.
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A failplaguuuu by FF only gets 1 vessel. Light is now right up to his opponents nat, and is now erasering the drones. This is just sad.
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On December 27 2008 15:36 Dazed_Spy wrote:
damn this is a good zvt
sarcasm?
If Light uses dropships, that could be game.
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United States12607 Posts
Flash: ALL YOU BASTARDS HAVE TO DO IS WIN ONE GAME
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scourge just got 2 dropships
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Light with a physics lab now, and is also floating a CC over one of FF's bases?
Manner CC ftw I guess.
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firefist is losing defilers left and right
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the cc is to let him infest! haha
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FF somehow managed to come back a bit. But they are on even bases.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
How the fuck is this any different from 2 seasons ago when Nal_rA was carrying the goddamn team.
Atleast 2v2 was a coin flip where it would be a win or a loss
Right now, the only coin flip we have is Luxury.
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haha, poor flash
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Okkk....Light is screwing around a lot now. 2 BCs, CC float about FF's base. I really hope he doesnt screw up and lose this game at this point, being that he is very far ahead.
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hahah <3 Jae Ho & the team MBC!
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Ooh, nice plague on the MnMs rummaging around the mouth of the bridge.
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flash is walter johnson and KTF is the ~1910 washington senators
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On December 27 2008 15:38 Avidkeystamper wrote:sarcasm? obv...even with light being a sloppy mother fucker, hes crushing firefist. I had such high hopes for ktf's zerg roster. come on luxury, get out of your slump and lead hoejja, firefist, and 815 to new heights!
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United States20661 Posts
Ultra ling swarm charge
fails
FF shakes his head and taps out
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FF made that twitch with his mouth that progamers usually do before tapping out.
Yeah. GG. I wonder how the KTF Team feels.
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once again, its just flash who wins and the ktf goes on to lose 1-3
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KTF T.T
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firefist gg-ed. mbc 3-1 ktf
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Firefist finally GG's. KTF is truly KTFlash.
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Light is overestimating his lead, fucking around with BC's is just stupid at this point :l
GOGO ZERG
edit: FUUUUCK,,,
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What did we learn from this?
KTF, excluding flash, is useless
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On December 27 2008 15:43 Sunyveil wrote:
What did we learn from this?
KTF, excluding flash, is useless
true but so sad
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Firefist is fail.
edit:What happened to Lux's game o.0
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Man, SKT1 Zergs are so lucky.
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Actually, I forgot about Hoejja. When Flash fades into mediocrity, he can be the one that wins when everybody else loses!
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luxury is turning out to be not worth the money KTF bought him for. I just hope he will step up.
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God, it doesn't even matter whether or not KTF fields Hery and Violet, they're going to go 1-3 every match anyways. I can't imagine it's good for your morale when you lose every match with the best Terran in the game on your team.
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Fuck... What's wrong with KTF... And waht's wrong with Lux. I am totally disappointed. KTF sucks so badly right now. Seriously, if not for Flash they would be worse than Ace...
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On December 27 2008 15:46 iLoveKTF wrote:
luxury is turning out to be not worth the money KTF bought him for. I just hope he will step up.
he will. Lux just needs lil more time to getting used to the KTF's house 
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On December 27 2008 15:47 ambit!ous1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 15:46 iLoveKTF wrote:
luxury is turning out to be not worth the money KTF bought him for. I just hope he will step up. he will. Lux just needs lil more time to getting used to the KTF's house No dude. Luxury looks totally at home on the roster. Luxury has just been slipping for a while now, and finally took a nose dive. It was inevitable, wherever he was.
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obviously its already very frustrating for us KTF fans. Luckily the proleage is 5 rounds long.
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yea, seriously wtf wrong with ktf. Flash is 1 free win. They just need to work their asses off to get 1 more win from other 3 games, then Flash'll take the ace and win of course. Easy as shit but they cant do it.
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MrHoon
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On December 27 2008 15:49 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 15:47 ambit!ous1 wrote:On December 27 2008 15:46 iLoveKTF wrote:
luxury is turning out to be not worth the money KTF bought him for. I just hope he will step up. he will. Lux just needs lil more time to getting used to the KTF's house No dude. Luxury looks totally at home on the roster. Luxury has just been slipping for a while now, and finally took a nose dive. It was inevitable, wherever he was.
people wrote many threads of "Bisu really worth $200,000? more like $1" when bisu first came to SKT
He does need time, but the difference with KTF and SKT is that SKT actually has a fucking lineup.
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KTF is turning into the new Pantech
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they should play Lucifer and 815 more imo. They were really good the previous seasons.
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Oh my fucking god, why on earth dose luxury fail, i go to work and come back to see this T_T
at least flash won
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Did KTF put Hoejja on the proleague roster yet? I think they need to do that. I also think they should use Haran (instead of fucking Zergbong).
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KTF has got to be looking forward to the all kill round lol. Yeah, its gotta suck for team morale and for Flash.
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I think KTF roster isn't bad at all. It's just that everyone's inconsistent. So they'll have good days and bad days. We're not talking Ace players or T1 zergs here. They actually do have some talent.
Luxury turned south real quick though. I mean, it wasn't that long ago when he was tearing through WCG Korea and carrying OGN to the proleague finals. Either he's not used to KTF, or it's a very rapid decline.
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Crap I looked at the post where I said game 1 was starting and the post where I said GG...
They were at 14:06 and 14:10.
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On December 27 2008 15:49 iLoveKTF wrote:
obviously its already very frustrating for us KTF fans. Luckily the proleage is 5 rounds long.
... 3 more rounds of misery?
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Does anyone have the total win/loss (individual game wise) record for KTF?
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On December 27 2008 16:11 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 15:49 iLoveKTF wrote:
obviously its already very frustrating for us KTF fans. Luckily the proleage is 5 rounds long. ... 3 more rounds of misery?
That's excatly what I thought... And it is very frustrating indeed. But at least Flash is doing well recently.
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The reason it's so frustrating is that there's so much hope. The newcomers (Hoejja, Tempest, Stats) all have heaps of potential and Luxury might step it back up any day now. If they would start winning some games, we could see KTF compete with the likes of Samsung and Lecaf - but until then, we just have to pray that Flash is allowed to play a second time.
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So Flash is 17-6, rest of team is 21-36. Ouch.
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On December 27 2008 16:30 Avidkeystamper wrote:So Flash is 17-6, rest of team is 21-36. Ouch.
Wouldn't they be 18-34? Assuming that the 34-37 was already counting their match on Dec. 22.
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Braavos36374 Posts
hehe why do people keep saying BC is fucking around when late game against survivor mode zerg, BC's are way better than more vessels because:
a) you already have a lot of vessels to take care of and you rarely use all the irradiates
b) BCs don't require a lot of babysitting, you just move and attack and leave them
c) BCs can harass expos that ground armies can't (due to lurker+swarm)
d) BCs require a ton of gas for the Z to kill, which really really hurts the starving survivorzerg
BCs are the smart, proper choice to maintain the lead, not fuck around!
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On December 27 2008 16:24 Tianx wrote:
The reason it's so frustrating is that there's so much hope. The newcomers (Hoejja, Tempest, Stats) all have heaps of potential and Luxury might step it back up any day now.
lol.. delusional hopes of KTF fans.
I just wanted to say Light is on fire and Super Terran User Light is back!!!!
He still sucks at TvT like he used to, but even then, his losses have been only TvT to the best
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On December 28 2008 01:30 SuperJongMan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 16:24 Tianx wrote:
The reason it's so frustrating is that there's so much hope. The newcomers (Hoejja, Tempest, Stats) all have heaps of potential and Luxury might step it back up any day now. lol.. delusional hopes of KTF fans. I just wanted to say Light is on fire and Super Terran User Light is back!!!! He still sucks at TvT like he used to, but even then, his losses have been only TvT to the best
His play against Forgg was excellent..against Mind not so much..but Mind can beat anyone in TvT and has done so, (maybe not fbh on record?)
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Sea and Light are solid PL performers, but i'd like to see ruby getting more playtime too ~_~
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United States2186 Posts
Mind has never beaten Flash ^_^ (0-4)
Luxury is so bad after coming to KTF sheesh. I can't believe KTF is doing worse than last season with him; although having Lucifer suck now does hurt.
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I really enjoyed the game between sea and tempest. Sea fought off a strong push that broke his wall, and would normally be extremely hard to stop. From there, he stops a reaver combined with shuttle elevator, and still manages to use his vultures to kill enough probes from tempest's 3 bases to get him back into the game. It was a really nice display of holding alot of pressure, and then finding a way to catch back up.
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On December 28 2008 04:12 Ver wrote:
Mind has never beaten Flash ^_^ (0-4)
Luxury is so bad after coming to KTF sheesh. I can't believe KTF is doing worse than last season with him; although having Lucifer suck now does hurt.
I meant individual games..because He took a game off flash in the Gom suprise tournament finals (3-1 Flash).
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On December 27 2008 17:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
hehe why do people keep saying BC is fucking around when late game against survivor mode zerg, BC's are way better than more vessels because:
a) you already have a lot of vessels to take care of and you rarely use all the irradiates
b) BCs don't require a lot of babysitting, you just move and attack and leave them
c) BCs can harass expos that ground armies can't (due to lurker+swarm)
d) BCs require a ton of gas for the Z to kill, which really really hurts the starving survivorzerg
BCs are the smart, proper choice to maintain the lead, not fuck around!
Yeah, I'd say they're a very good unit. If you have them as part of a ball they like never, ever die and clean up ultras quite nicely (and they one hit fairly damaged zerglings) Even with the loss of irradiate, Yamato is only 100/100 and actually better in a few instances because while it has a chargeup, the damage comes all at once. The ability to fly around and wreck expansions fairly easily once a certain number is reached is also quite nice.
Oh, and they cleanup doom drops without hydra or defilers like cake if you've built up enough of them and anticipated a drop. My friend dropped like 20 lurkers on me which ordinary would be a death sentence, but I killed them all and all he destroyed was like two barracks and a depot or two...
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On December 27 2008 17:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
hehe why do people keep saying BC is fucking around when late game against survivor mode zerg, BC's are way better than more vessels because:
a) you already have a lot of vessels to take care of and you rarely use all the irradiates
b) BCs don't require a lot of babysitting, you just move and attack and leave them
c) BCs can harass expos that ground armies can't (due to lurker+swarm)
d) BCs require a ton of gas for the Z to kill, which really really hurts the starving survivorzerg
BCs are the smart, proper choice to maintain the lead, not fuck around!
Ok, but from the fact his was floating a CC over Firefist's hatchery I was getting the impression that he was just being bm.
FF was taking a hell of a long time to leave.
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Well that base was actually closer to Light's base than Firefist's, I think he was just trying to expand there and then, "oh, look what we have here :|".
That being said, I hope he gets angry and plays a little better next game.
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On December 28 2008 08:51 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2008 17:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
hehe why do people keep saying BC is fucking around when late game against survivor mode zerg, BC's are way better than more vessels because:
a) you already have a lot of vessels to take care of and you rarely use all the irradiates
b) BCs don't require a lot of babysitting, you just move and attack and leave them
c) BCs can harass expos that ground armies can't (due to lurker+swarm)
d) BCs require a ton of gas for the Z to kill, which really really hurts the starving survivorzerg
BCs are the smart, proper choice to maintain the lead, not fuck around! Ok, but from the fact his was floating a CC over Firefist's hatchery I was getting the impression that he was just being bm. FF was taking a hell of a long time to leave.
Reminds me of sAviOr vs NaDa on Blue Storm, where sAviOr either expanded under a floating CC or NaDa flew the CC over the existing expansion and built a Spore Colony to kill the CC...lol~
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