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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-23 12:32:56
December 23 2008 12:32 GMT
#1101
Seems to me, as long as he doesn't ultra-rush, Jaedong's zvp chances are really good.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 23 2008 12:32 GMT
#1102
Epic ace match.

Sad to see Bisu lose though. Great game however...
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 23 2008 12:33 GMT
#1103
On December 23 2008 21:31 MuShu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2008 21:30 DoX.) wrote:
Bisu didn't guard his third and fourth well enough....once his got contained and starved out of minerals it was over IMHO

Well, that's hard to do when you just lose a battle-deciding fight and lose your army.


I think Bisu had a pretty decent army when he was getting his third up (? not sure) and JD just sent in a control group of hydras to snipe the nexus
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
December 23 2008 12:35 GMT
#1104
TT ,
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
December 23 2008 12:35 GMT
#1105
The deciding factor were the muta sniping ht, and then the reavers in the main battle. Bisu didn't expect the mutas and that costed him the game. And of course jd defended very well against harassment.
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
December 23 2008 12:39 GMT
#1106
On December 23 2008 21:35 arbiter_md wrote:
The deciding factor were the muta sniping ht, and then the reavers in the main battle. Bisu didn't expect the mutas and that costed him the game. And of course jd defended very well against harassment.


Right. Most zergs just don't time a switch back to muta to snipe the high templars. Other than Jaedong, most zerg players just brute force a push with mostly hydras, and that is exactly what players like Bisu want. That is really what sets Jaedong apart.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 23 2008 12:39 GMT
#1107
This thread already has more replies than the SKT vs KHAN match :D
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 23 2008 12:40 GMT
#1108
Jaedong has recently dismantled both Flash and Bisu.
Huhuhuhuhu, Lecaf fans must be so happy.... lucky.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 23 2008 12:45 GMT
#1109
On December 23 2008 21:40 SuperJongMan wrote:
Jaedong has recently dismantled both Flash and Bisu.
Huhuhuhuhu, Lecaf fans must be so happy.... lucky.

FEEL MY PAIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

I don't mind if flash loses to Jaedong

I DO mind when flash loses to jaedong in the most retarded fashion due to his stinginess
dats racist
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
December 23 2008 12:45 GMT
#1110
On December 23 2008 21:40 SuperJongMan wrote:
Jaedong has recently dismantled both Flash and Bisu.
Huhuhuhuhu, Lecaf fans must be so happy.... lucky.

Samsung fans are still laughing though, I'm sure. Stork is recently untouched by Jaedong, and FBH laughs in the face of all zerg, it would seem. Meanwhile us CJ fans weep and wait.
dmfg
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom591 Posts
December 23 2008 12:49 GMT
#1111
This was a beautiful day. Hiya was never taking down Best and young had no chance against Bisu so today was always going to be about whether Jaedong could deliver the goods against Fantasy and the ace match, and he did in glorious fashion.

Queens ensare wtf. I'm just going to leave the VODs on repeat all today.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
December 23 2008 12:49 GMT
#1112
Pardon me for a bit OT but don't Koreans celebrate Christmas and New Year!? Just since they're always playing even on those days.
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abakben
Profile Joined April 2007
United States308 Posts
December 23 2008 12:49 GMT
#1113
It looks like JDs medicine is only FBH.
Three big B's (BEST-BISU-BOXER) fighting for SKT1. All we need is a good zerg to dominate the Proleague:)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 23 2008 12:50 GMT
#1114
JD:
ZvZ: Jaedong's ZvZ is probably the best match-up of any player in the history of Starcraft, save iloveoov's TvZ
ZvP: Just beat clearly the best PvZ player in the world in his peak of dominance, in an extremely convincing fashion although Bisu played better than any other Protoss could ever play
ZvT: Beat Flash and Fantasy recently, but that's still his least proven MU.

I'd say, if Jaedong keeps playing like this, he'll take both of the Starleague titles.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 23 2008 12:52 GMT
#1115
On December 23 2008 21:49 3nickma wrote:
Pardon me for a bit OT but don't Koreans celebrate Christmas and New Year!? Just since they're always playing even on those days.

With the economy down the shithole right now, nobody has time to play in Korea.

Hell even Im working on Christmas

Then I'll walk the ronery road home with no one to warm my frozen heart.
dats racist
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 23 2008 12:58 GMT
#1116
On December 23 2008 21:50 Shikyo wrote:
JD:
ZvZ: Jaedong's ZvZ is probably the best match-up of any player in the history of Starcraft, save iloveoov's TvZ
ZvP: Just beat clearly the best PvZ player in the world in his peak of dominance, in an extremely convincing fashion although Bisu played better than any other Protoss could ever play
ZvT: Beat Flash and Fantasy recently, but that's still his least proven MU.

I'd say, if Jaedong keeps playing like this, he'll take both of the Starleague titles.


This is the 2nd time this happened. But I would say all 6 dragons are just as good at PvZ and Jaedong will have a hard time beating all of them considering that Stork and Free beat him recently. Also Jaedong will have problems if he runs into Forgg once again who is 70%+ in TvZ or FBH who is just as good TvZ. ZvZ vs Jaedong is gg no re. He is a good contender for 1 title but winning both or being a favourite for both is unlikely.
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abakben
Profile Joined April 2007
United States308 Posts
December 23 2008 13:01 GMT
#1117
Actually winning both titles with the intense calendar nowadays is nearly impossible. If you remember Stork lost to Kal because of it.
Three big B's (BEST-BISU-BOXER) fighting for SKT1. All we need is a good zerg to dominate the Proleague:)
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
December 23 2008 13:01 GMT
#1118
On December 23 2008 21:58 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2008 21:50 Shikyo wrote:
JD:
ZvZ: Jaedong's ZvZ is probably the best match-up of any player in the history of Starcraft, save iloveoov's TvZ
ZvP: Just beat clearly the best PvZ player in the world in his peak of dominance, in an extremely convincing fashion although Bisu played better than any other Protoss could ever play
ZvT: Beat Flash and Fantasy recently, but that's still his least proven MU.

I'd say, if Jaedong keeps playing like this, he'll take both of the Starleague titles.


This is the 2nd time this happened. But I would say all 6 dragons are just as good at PvZ and Jaedong will have a hard time beating all of them considering that Stork and Free beat him recently.


Bisu's PvZ is clearly the best atm. (free[gm] comes a close second).

In a bo5 Bisu has the best chance out of any Protoss.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 23 2008 13:20 GMT
#1119
Do not underestimate Free's PvZ.
It is monstrous.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 23 2008 13:24 GMT
#1120
Did somebody really just say the other protosses are as good at pvz as bisu ?

Welcome to 2008 where people believe the dumbest shit.

Bisu is by far the best PvZ player of all time, every mechanic and harrass is unique. The most effective builds and the best timming. One could argue that janbi has better storms, or free has better aggression, but .... seriously get real.
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