• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:40
CEST 18:40
KST 01:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0
Community News
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)60Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition275.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 154
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I'm making videos again Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game Whose hotkey signature is this?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta Proposed Glossary of Strategic Uncertainty
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Stop the Construction YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1389 users

[GOM] Ro16, Day 3 - Page 24

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 36 Next All
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#461
kal going dt's out of desparation... kal has liek 8 probe sin total
midn has kals high ground again
kal gg's
sick game on a sick map
minds build was sick
Forever Young
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#462
Kal is soooo raped.

GG
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#463
Mind played that so perfectly.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#464
kal did surprisingly well considering his economy and the constant death of probes to vultures.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#465
that was awesome. the zs evaporated to those mines
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3812 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#466
Megachin 1 - 0 Negachin
: o )
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#467
Beautifull game. Mind's TvP is just art.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 21 2008 10:52 GMT
#468
Very GG by Mind, so impressive on this P >> T map.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
December 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#469
Mind pushing just put too much pressure on Kal so much and his economy was down
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
December 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#470
haha, awesome game! great low econ game by Mind, and smart drops and timing pushes. Kal had some good reaver control at the push also, but made a few mistakes.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#471
and mind, the scholar, wins with amazing play, helped by the fact that kal decided to expand to the 6 main instead of his own natural.

Kal's first reaver didn't do enough damage, and mind took advantage of it on this map, using a 3 fact and the short pathing distance to do enough damage with the first push to put kal far enough behind till the end of the game.
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
December 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#472
Incredible game. Mind's vulture control / spider mine planting etc......wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
December 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#473
On December 21 2008 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
You DO have to play non-standard on Neo Req. That's the point.


I think that is bad for the sport. If you are good at SC maps like this show it a little bit less. For example - it would be like adding hurtles and obstacles in a marathon to make runners run the race non-standard, as if it would show who the better runner is. So maybe it would make it more exciting for the viewer but worse for good players.

That is just my take. For me, game consistency > excitement. Maybe that is the difference.
CJ Entusman #24
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
December 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#474
very good game by Mind, although Kal did pretty well defending for such long
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#475
btw Neo req creates some of the most aggresive innovative 1 base tech plays. any1 who hates/believes this map as bad really doesnt appriciate sc
Forever Young
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 10:56:46
December 21 2008 10:54 GMT
#476
On December 21 2008 19:53 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2008 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
You DO have to play non-standard on Neo Req. That's the point.


I think that is bad for the sport. If you are good at SC maps like this show it a little bit less. For example - it would be like adding hurtles and obstacles in a marathon to make runners run the race non-standard, as if it would show who the better runner is. So maybe it would make it more exciting for the viewer but worse for good players.

That is just my take. For me, game consistency > excitement. Maybe that is the difference.


But this isn't a marathon. It's completely different. The different maps that force different styles highlight adaptability skills, micro, changing strategies, lots of different things. Strategies vary and are always changing, so forcing players to play the same style of maps over and over would not do StarCraft its justice.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 10:55:49
December 21 2008 10:55 GMT
#477
On December 21 2008 19:53 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2008 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
You DO have to play non-standard on Neo Req. That's the point.


I think that is bad for the sport. If you are good at SC maps like this show it a little bit less. For example - it would be like adding hurtles and obstacles in a marathon to make runners run the race non-standard, as if it would show who the better runner is. So maybe it would make it more exciting for the viewer but worse for good players.

That is just my take. For me, game consistency > excitement. Maybe that is the difference.


I disagree completely. Low-econ play like that one Neo Requiem is VERY much a part of StarCraft, look at the game's history.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 21 2008 10:55 GMT
#478
On December 21 2008 19:53 sung_moon wrote:
btw Neo req creates some of the most aggresive innovative 1 base tech plays. any1 who hates/believes this map as bad really doesnt appriciate sc

This is so true, I love to see shuttle play and there are many other good games here. Stork vs Bisu was so awesome.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
December 21 2008 10:55 GMT
#479
On December 21 2008 19:54 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2008 19:53 Qwertify wrote:
On December 21 2008 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
You DO have to play non-standard on Neo Req. That's the point.


I think that is bad for the sport. If you are good at SC maps like this show it a little bit less. For example - it would be like adding hurtles and obstacles in a marathon to make runners run the race non-standard, as if it would show who the better runner is. So maybe it would make it more exciting for the viewer but worse for good players.

That is just my take. For me, game consistency > excitement. Maybe that is the difference.


But this isn't a marathon. It's completely different.


I know. In that case compare that analogy to any sport.
CJ Entusman #24
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 21 2008 10:55 GMT
#480
On December 21 2008 19:53 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2008 19:48 KreaGata wrote:
You DO have to play non-standard on Neo Req. That's the point.


I think that is bad for the sport. If you are good at SC maps like this show it a little bit less. For example - it would be like adding hurtles and obstacles in a marathon to make runners run the race non-standard, as if it would show who the better runner is. So maybe it would make it more exciting for the viewer but worse for good players.

That is just my take. For me, game consistency > excitement. Maybe that is the difference.


wht? theres still consistency in Neo req. its not liek bisu/flash/stork/JD are dropping games 2 random no-names. your example of a marathon is pretty bad
Forever Young
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 36 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:55
FSL Team League: PTB vs ASH
Freeedom27
Liquipedia
OSC
15:00
Masters Cup #150 Qualifier
Liquipedia
Map Test Tournament
11:00
TLMC #15: Playoffs
ByuN vs LamboLIVE!
TBD vs Clem
WardiTV1646
ComeBackTV 1145
IndyStarCraft 287
Rex152
3DClanTV 70
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 287
Lowko206
Rex 152
ProTech108
BRAT_OK 48
Codebar 17
MindelVK 16
gerald23 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1649
Shuttle 1331
Mini 782
Flash 650
sSak 398
BeSt 379
firebathero 324
Soulkey 223
Hyun 115
Mind 93
[ Show more ]
Noble 89
Mong 58
Bonyth 55
Rock 40
Movie 32
soO 31
Backho 24
HiyA 24
ToSsGirL 23
zelot 22
Hm[arnc] 21
Yoon 20
Terrorterran 19
ivOry 17
JulyZerg 15
Sacsri 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
SilentControl 9
Dota 2
Gorgc9576
Counter-Strike
fl0m1919
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu493
Khaldor420
Other Games
singsing2141
FrodaN1679
B2W.Neo962
Beastyqt538
Skadoodle350
KnowMe201
Hui .130
ArmadaUGS91
Fuzer 81
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1235
BasetradeTV134
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 31
• Airneanach7
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2571
League of Legends
• Jankos2988
Other Games
• WagamamaTV428
• Shiphtur343
Upcoming Events
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1h 20m
Safe House 2
1h 20m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 20m
Map Test Tournament
18h 20m
TBD vs Spirit
TBD vs herO
OSC
19h 20m
IPSL
1d 2h
Bonyth vs Art_Of_Turtle
Razz vs rasowy
Afreeca Starleague
1d 17h
Barracks vs Snow
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Bisu
The PondCast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
WardiTV TLMC #15
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.