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On December 17 2008 16:35 RaGe wrote: I'm pretty sure Jangbi delayed his +1 attack to get his second archon faster. Unorthodox, but in this case wise decision. Yeah I noticed this. When you expect to face mostly hydras you don't need +1 as badly.
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On December 17 2008 16:36 Tianx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:32 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:29 shavingcream66 wrote: why didn't stork play instead of jangbi? Because stork is weaker than Janbi against Zerg and they have similar pvp strength. The second part isn't true. Stork's PvP is much, much stronger than Jangbi's.
Well, lets just say that they are both better than free.
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On December 17 2008 16:35 RaGe wrote: I'm pretty sure Jangbi delayed his +1 attack to get his second archon faster. Unorthodox, but in this case wise decision.
Interesting. I didn't think about this.
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Is anyone finding the 'next match' screen kind of funny with the announcers just yelling and being like 'YAAAAAaaaa"
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On December 17 2008 16:32 EntertainMe wrote: Not many team coaches send out a player with a loss as an ace because that's just a huge risk to take. If that player loses again, then he'll definitely feel responsible for the team loss, thus his confidence drained. A bad move by Stars Coach.
Huh? This happens all the time. Fantasy got sent out to lose twice yesterday to lose. Fail logic.
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why are commentators going nuts seeing the new matches? i'll never understand them...
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Ok, time for SKT to step up next. Show Samsung wsup.
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LOL. The next game Samsung vs SKT. They say "YAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH song gyung bu kim taek yong."
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On December 17 2008 16:35 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:32 EntertainMe wrote: Not many team coaches send out a player with a loss as an ace because that's just a huge risk to take. If that player loses again, then he'll definitely feel responsible for the team loss, thus his confidence drained. A bad move by Stars Coach. Oh dear god, you are so wrong... would you please stop trying to analyze (incorrectly btw) every little thing that has such a minimal impact?
Yeah, it could just be that that player happened to be picked as the best candidate for the ace before hand because of the other team and the map. From what I know, many of the coaches usually prepare two of their players for a possible ace match and then pick from one of the two. They only decide on the spot when 1) did not have time to prepare for the ACE, or 2) did not expect to get into ace, as when playing the Airforce.
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On December 17 2008 16:36 hacpee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:36 Tianx wrote:On December 17 2008 16:32 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:29 shavingcream66 wrote: why didn't stork play instead of jangbi? Because stork is weaker than Janbi against Zerg and they have similar pvp strength. The second part isn't true. Stork's PvP is much, much stronger than Jangbi's. Well, lets just say that they are both better than free.
hacpee is correct.
Jangbi >>> stork pvz Stork > Jangbi at pvp
So Jangbi is the better pick if you're not sure if they're sending a P or Z (obviously they weren't sending a T, if there was a high chance of a T, THEN we would have seen Stork).
Oversimplifying a bit, and of course Stork is still spectacular at PvZ, but hopefully you get the point.
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On December 17 2008 16:32 SuperJongMan wrote: All the Woongjin Zergs lost today. Wow lame. Fuckn.. they should just say fuck you and 3 hatch chogoling crush. -_-;;
Wow, they say Jangbi's Zealot Archon rush was actually about 15 seconds faster than normal. SICK.
15 seconds? Wow. That's probably like, 4% of the build's total time, I wonder where it came from >.>
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On December 17 2008 16:36 Tianx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:32 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:29 shavingcream66 wrote: why didn't stork play instead of jangbi? Because stork is weaker than Janbi against Zerg and they have similar pvp strength. The second part isn't true. Stork's PvP is much, much stronger than Jangbi's.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83518
Read this. Jangbi is the best player on the Khan roster in practice games, it doesn't mean he shows it in real games, but even Stork admits that jangbi rapes him daily.
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On December 17 2008 16:36 hacpee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:36 Tianx wrote:On December 17 2008 16:32 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:29 shavingcream66 wrote: why didn't stork play instead of jangbi? Because stork is weaker than Janbi against Zerg and they have similar pvp strength. The second part isn't true. Stork's PvP is much, much stronger than Jangbi's. Well, lets just say that they are both better than free.
Eh, I disagree. Jangbi and Free were both raped about equally hard by Bisu in the MSL, and Free can match any player in the world right now but Stork and Bisu. Zero was a good choice, as Free is outclassed by Stork. A pity he got totally crushed.
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Wrong. Jangbi > stork in most of their practice games. Jangbi is the better PvP player. Woongjin dont have any strong terran, they send Jangbi out
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On December 17 2008 16:39 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:32 SuperJongMan wrote: All the Woongjin Zergs lost today. Wow lame. Fuckn.. they should just say fuck you and 3 hatch chogoling crush. -_-;;
Wow, they say Jangbi's Zealot Archon rush was actually about 15 seconds faster than normal. SICK. 15 seconds? Wow. That's probably like, 4% of the build's total time, I wonder where it came from >.> I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but they say it comes from not upgrading +1 as quick for atk.
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On December 17 2008 16:38 SuperJongMan wrote: Ok, time for SKT to step up next. Show Samsung wsup.
I hope they do. The Samsung-SKT1 rivalry could have some real fire to it if SKT1 would stop sucking.
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On December 17 2008 16:39 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:36 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:36 Tianx wrote:On December 17 2008 16:32 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:29 shavingcream66 wrote: why didn't stork play instead of jangbi? Because stork is weaker than Janbi against Zerg and they have similar pvp strength. The second part isn't true. Stork's PvP is much, much stronger than Jangbi's. Well, lets just say that they are both better than free. hacpee is correct. Jangbi >>>> stork pvz Stork >> Jangbi at pvp So Jangbi is the better pick if you're not sure if they're sending a P or Z (obviously they weren't sending a T, if there was a high chance of a T, THEN we would have seen Stork). Oversimplifying a bit, and of course Stork is still spectacular at PvZ, but hopefully you get the point. Storks PvZ is very strange.
He seemed dominant when he annihilated Jaedong in the WCG, but looked terrible when he lost playing against Luxury.
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On December 17 2008 16:38 Sandster wrote: why are commentators going nuts seeing the new matches? i'll never understand them...
"Samsung KHAN again!!!! AGAINST SKT!!!"
"Christmas Eve!!! Don't go anwaywhere!! But watch the proleague instead!! I say from the experience. ANYWHERE you go, it will be crowded, NOT WORTH YOUR TIME! STAY HOME AND WATCH THE FASCINATING PROLEAGUE!. Look! We even have many give aways for that day!"
just creating much excitement. ;P
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United States10774 Posts
On December 17 2008 16:40 Tianx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:36 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:36 Tianx wrote:On December 17 2008 16:32 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:29 shavingcream66 wrote: why didn't stork play instead of jangbi? Because stork is weaker than Janbi against Zerg and they have similar pvp strength. The second part isn't true. Stork's PvP is much, much stronger than Jangbi's. Well, lets just say that they are both better than free. Eh, I disagree. Jangbi and Free were both raped about equally hard by Bisu in the MSL, and Free can match any player in the world right now but Stork and Bisu. Zero was a good choice, as Free is outclassed by Stork. A pity he got totally crushed. well, i wouldn't say both of them getting raped by bisu means that they are equal. bisu is better than both of them, but jangbi is a better pvper than free. free has been historically weak(er) at the matchup
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On December 17 2008 16:40 Tianx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2008 16:36 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:36 Tianx wrote:On December 17 2008 16:32 hacpee wrote:On December 17 2008 16:29 shavingcream66 wrote: why didn't stork play instead of jangbi? Because stork is weaker than Janbi against Zerg and they have similar pvp strength. The second part isn't true. Stork's PvP is much, much stronger than Jangbi's. Well, lets just say that they are both better than free. Eh, I disagree. Jangbi and Free were both raped about equally hard by Bisu in the MSL, and Free can match any player in the world right now but Stork and Bisu. Zero was a good choice, as Free is outclassed by Stork. A pity he got totally crushed.
Jangbi is a fantastic PvP player, extremely capable of handling the inconsistent Free.
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