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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-17 01:27:39
December 17 2008 01:27 GMT
#41
On December 17 2008 08:57 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2008 08:41 wswordsmen wrote:
KTF fans need to be less bias so they don't jinx the team and more importantly (T)Flash.


Truer words have never been spoken. In almost every KTF V. Random team I see "KTF 3-0" "KTF 3-1" etc etc.

Right now KTF is in a strange position and needs to really focus on their ace's winning consistently, which, is impossible because they can't win EVERY time. So, until they get Tempest, Sair, Firefist, Hoejja, or.. that other protoss (Stats?) preforming at a higher level they are handicapped.

Let's cheer the boys on, but be realistic! We are underdogs


you know what's retarded. to think that the expectations of us, the foreign community, has any effect on the teams and/or players.

i agree that there needs to be less pressure on the star players of KTF and more overall depth, but our blind fanboyism has no effect on this. let us be stupidly optimistic: it's starcraft, for god's sake, and there's very little things you can be stupidly optimistic about in the real world. might as well have faith in something with little practical relevance.

so again, 3-0 KTF STFU TY
manner
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 17 2008 01:31 GMT
#42
On December 17 2008 10:27 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2008 08:57 Vasoline73 wrote:
On December 17 2008 08:41 wswordsmen wrote:
KTF fans need to be less bias so they don't jinx the team and more importantly (T)Flash.


Truer words have never been spoken. In almost every KTF V. Random team I see "KTF 3-0" "KTF 3-1" etc etc.

Right now KTF is in a strange position and needs to really focus on their ace's winning consistently, which, is impossible because they can't win EVERY time. So, until they get Tempest, Sair, Firefist, Hoejja, or.. that other protoss (Stats?) preforming at a higher level they are handicapped.

Let's cheer the boys on, but be realistic! We are underdogs


you know what's retarded. to think that the expectations of us, the foreign community, has any effect on the teams and/or players.

i agree that there needs to be less pressure on the star players of KTF and more overall depth, but our blind fanboyism has no effect on this. let us be stupidly optimistic: it's starcraft, for god's sake, and there's very little things you can be stupidly optimistic about in the real world. might as well have faith in something with little practical relevance.

so again, 3-0 KTF STFU TY

Wow, I thought jinx was something supernatural and nonrealistic, thank you for opening my eyes to the light. O,o
Jaedong
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
December 17 2008 01:32 GMT
#43
On December 17 2008 08:01 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2008 07:20 Nitan wrote:
On December 17 2008 07:16 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 17 2008 07:12 Nitan wrote:
On December 17 2008 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 17 2008 06:42 Nitan wrote:
3-1 KTF with Stats failing to deliver as usual.
stats has lost a few really close games to really really strong terrans. Stats always comes ready to play. He's going to rape.


That's called failing to deliver. He does something nice and then falls apart. He's like Luxury vs. Best, taking a seemingly massive advantage within a few minutes of play and then failing miserably.

You cant say that dosent make him a player to watch, granted hes lost 2 games but they were very, very close, dont count him out


I wouldn't (and haven't) say he isn't a player to watch. Maybe he'll get better.

I'm not counting on it though. He'll probably have a run in a starleague, maybe knock Jaedong out of Gom, and just sit around in limbo.

Uh thats tempest your thinking of, he dose really well or horribly fails, imho stats > tempest


That's the joke.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
December 17 2008 01:42 GMT
#44
3-0 KTF
Aegraen #1 Fan!
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
December 17 2008 01:55 GMT
#45
On December 17 2008 10:31 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2008 10:27 d_so wrote:
On December 17 2008 08:57 Vasoline73 wrote:
On December 17 2008 08:41 wswordsmen wrote:
KTF fans need to be less bias so they don't jinx the team and more importantly (T)Flash.


Truer words have never been spoken. In almost every KTF V. Random team I see "KTF 3-0" "KTF 3-1" etc etc.

Right now KTF is in a strange position and needs to really focus on their ace's winning consistently, which, is impossible because they can't win EVERY time. So, until they get Tempest, Sair, Firefist, Hoejja, or.. that other protoss (Stats?) preforming at a higher level they are handicapped.

Let's cheer the boys on, but be realistic! We are underdogs


you know what's retarded. to think that the expectations of us, the foreign community, has any effect on the teams and/or players.

i agree that there needs to be less pressure on the star players of KTF and more overall depth, but our blind fanboyism has no effect on this. let us be stupidly optimistic: it's starcraft, for god's sake, and there's very little things you can be stupidly optimistic about in the real world. might as well have faith in something with little practical relevance.

so again, 3-0 KTF STFU TY

Wow, I thought jinx was something supernatural and nonrealistic, thank you for opening my eyes to the light. O,o


3-0 KTF.
Serious business.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-17 01:57:39
December 17 2008 01:57 GMT
#46
5-0Lecaf, take that!
Who stops at a measely 3 wins?
Jaedong
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-17 02:00:47
December 17 2008 01:57 GMT
#47
On December 17 2008 10:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
5-0Lecaf, take that!
Who stops at a measely 3 wins?


rofl

if KTF loses today get ready for long ass post/rant on the struggles of KTF.

from ME. I'm CHOMPING AT THE BIT
manner
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
December 17 2008 01:59 GMT
#48
ANYTHING can happen in this game. ANYTHING. except for (P)BackHo winning, of course.

Predictions

(T)fOrGG < (Z)Luxury
Bad map statistically in TvZ, and I think TLPD has enough games to prove it.
(Z)Jaedong < (T)Flash
(T)Flash is in much better shape than (Z)Jaedong right now, and the map is not so good for JD either.
(P)Young > (P)Stats
I (T)Really don’t know about this one.
(P)BackHo < (T)SaiR
(T)SaiR ez, even if I wasn't biased against (P)BackHo.
Lecaf 1-3 KTF

SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-17 02:08:02
December 17 2008 02:06 GMT
#49
Fools.
Jaedong is INVINCIBLE!!!

Seriously. Jaedong will NEVER lose 4 games in a row again. Ever. That was like the low point of his career. It just won't happen. Not again, no, Jaedong's not going down that dark path. Easy win.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-17 02:10:03
December 17 2008 02:07 GMT
#50
On December 17 2008 10:32 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2008 08:01 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 17 2008 07:20 Nitan wrote:
On December 17 2008 07:16 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 17 2008 07:12 Nitan wrote:
On December 17 2008 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 17 2008 06:42 Nitan wrote:
3-1 KTF with Stats failing to deliver as usual.
stats has lost a few really close games to really really strong terrans. Stats always comes ready to play. He's going to rape.


That's called failing to deliver. He does something nice and then falls apart. He's like Luxury vs. Best, taking a seemingly massive advantage within a few minutes of play and then failing miserably.

You cant say that dosent make him a player to watch, granted hes lost 2 games but they were very, very close, dont count him out


I wouldn't (and haven't) say he isn't a player to watch. Maybe he'll get better.

I'm not counting on it though. He'll probably have a run in a starleague, maybe knock Jaedong out of Gom, and just sit around in limbo.

Uh thats tempest your thinking of, he dose really well or horribly fails, imho stats > tempest


That's the joke.


Wasnt a good joke at all,

On December 17 2008 11:06 SuperJongMan wrote:
Fools.
Jaedong is INVINCIBLE!!!


LOLOL
http://www.gomtv.net/videos/485
http://www.gomtv.net/videos/487
how on earth?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 17 2008 02:09 GMT
#51
On December 17 2008 10:59 3 Lions wrote:
ANYTHING can happen in this game. ANYTHING. except for (P)BackHo winning, of course.

Predictions

(T)fOrGG < (Z)Luxury
Bad map statistically in TvZ, and I think TLPD has enough games to prove it.
(Z)Jaedong < (T)Flash
(T)Flash is in much better shape than (Z)Jaedong right now, and the map is not so good for JD either.
(P)Young > (P)Stats
I (T)Really don’t know about this one.
(P)BackHo < (T)SaiR
(T)SaiR ez, even if I wasn't biased against (P)BackHo.
Lecaf 1-3 KTF


Luxury's last ZvT: 4-6
fOrGG's last TvZ: 8-2

Although, I think you have to realize that Lecaf purposely put their players on disadvantaged maps, I think, to prove a point. Especially for Jaedong.
Jaedong
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 17 2008 02:09 GMT
#52
Fags.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
December 17 2008 02:10 GMT
#53
Man, I've got my last final exam tonight starting at 8 PDT. I hope I can finish fast enough to get back in time for this.

My predictions: (GO Lecaf!)

(T)fOrGG < (Z)Luxury
(Z)Luxury's TvZ is still sublime, and Medusa is a haven for ZvT. That said, I hope Time Attacker can at least put up a good fight.
(Z)Jaedong > (T)Flash
Map's rough for ZvT, but I think (Z)Jaedong can take this one if he keeps his composure. A win here over his arch-rival would be great for his confidence.
(P)Young > (P)Stats
Two relatively new players here, and I've liked what I've seen from both. I think it's a tossup here, so I'll go with a bit of bias and choose (P)Young.
(P)BackHo > (T)SaiR
Yes, yes, Failho. I still love the kid, he's got spunk, and I think he can take this game against (T)SaiR whose TvP I'm uncertain on.

Ace: (If necessary)
I think we can all agree a rematch of (Z)Jaedong vs. (T)Flash would be too hype, with JD wining in an epic game.

Lecaf
3 - 1/3 - 2 KTF !!!
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
December 17 2008 02:11 GMT
#54
On December 17 2008 11:09 SuperJongMan wrote:
Fags.


rofl. +1
manner
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 17 2008 02:16 GMT
#55
ktf, be my saving grace.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 17 2008 02:33 GMT
#56
Yippie, two ZvTs with four players I really like. I'm gonna have to go with flash on this one. I hope I'm wrong though.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 17 2008 02:45 GMT
#57
Backho can show great games, however sometimes one wonders if he actually thinks when he plays. His PvZ awful. Other two matchups go depending on his state that day. Which Backho shows up to play?
God Bless
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
December 17 2008 02:49 GMT
#58
If the game drags out forgg will run over luxury like hulkamania. Million Marine March.
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
December 17 2008 02:51 GMT
#59
+ Show Spoiler +
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VS

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This is a match worth staying up for.
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
December 17 2008 03:10 GMT
#60
although (Z)Jaedong might be in a mini slump, he'll come out top over (T)Flash IMO
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