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How to watch
1. Daum Sports
2. Corinthos Stream: mmsh://75.126.18.2:2618 (Do not share around!)
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Pure < Bisu
Mind > s2
Nal_keke > by.fantasy
RorO < BeSt
FOX Ace > SKT1 Ace
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Pure < Bisu - Obviously
Mind > s2 - Even if s2 has been winning, he has no chance vs Mind.
keke < Fantasy - Fantasy is pretty good vs zerg. Hope to see the mech build!
RoR0 < Best - Obviously
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Pure is so slumping. Last season he was like unstoppable. Like 25 won out of 30. Now he's losing everything. Only 2 wins in the last 12 games.
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
wemade vs skt1 vlc stream:
mmsh://75.126.18.2:2618
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On December 15 2008 18:34 Corinthos wrote:
wemade vs skt1 vlc stream:
mmsh://75.126.18.2:2618
thanks man 
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K T Y Fighting!
Really nice games, I wish I could see them 
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owww, live reports please.
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On December 15 2008 18:34 Corinthos wrote:
wemade vs skt1 vlc stream:
mmsh://75.126.18.2:2618
sweet, thanks
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I am going to watch and live report the Bisu[Shield] game and go to sleep depending on how tired I am.
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2. Corinthos Stream: mmsh://75.126.18.2:2618 (Do not share around!)
Who would I tell that wouldn't also be on tl?
p.s. thx Corinthos
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Game start! Pure at 3 in red, Bisu at 7 in White.
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Pure at 3 o'clock @ Medusa and Bisu in the bottom middle.
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They both make a pylon in their main and none of them decides to scout after pylon.
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Bisu decides to scout after gateway and is scouting the wrong way and will find Pure last. Pure has not scouted yet even after making assim.
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Both of their gateways finish and Pure decides to scout and is scouting the right way. Pure goes 14 core and Bisu makes a pylon instead and it seems he is going 18 core.
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Pure scouts before Bisu does.
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I wanna see Mind vs Best or Bisu in ace or even Fantasy . I hope that it will get to ace .
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Both players are just chasing each others zealot around their base. Bisu's core is not finished and Pure's is already researching range.
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Bisu with 2 zeals out and mining the mineral patch outside his temple and pure with 1 zeal/1 goon and chasing the probe that is in his main. Bisu is getting range and Pure adds a robo.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
both players mine away the minerals at the temples
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Bisu decides to add a 2nd gateway and Pure is now mining out the minerals outside his tempe and placing a pylon near his mineral only and adds a second gateway. Pure with 3 goons + 1 zeal and Bisu with 2 goons/2 zeal.
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Bisu adds a robo and Pure is trying to scout with a probe whether Bisu has range. Pure adds a support bay and is moving in with his range goons. Pure has a shuttle out and Bisu has moved back into his main.
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Pure snipes Bisu's scouting probe with his 3 goons and makes an observator. There will be a moment where Pure will have a shuttle and reaver and Bisu will not and already Pure is up +1 goon.
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Actually it seems Bisu has 1 more goon and Pure is moving towards the main of Bisu like he wants to drop and is sending his army to Bisu's natural. Bisu moves goons to defend and I think has scouted Pure's army with his Ob. Pure has a second reaver out and it seems that Bisu is perhaps waiting on his 1st or maybe second reaver,
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Bisu just loaded up a reaver and Pure loaded up his second reaver and is looking to take his natural.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Bisu takes his nat and Pure snipes his obs.
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Bisu expands to his natural and Pure has not yet expanded. Bisu still ahs 3 goons in his main for reaver drops and is adding pylons in his natural to atract scarabs if Pure attacks. Bisu with 2 reavrs out and Pure is ATTACKING.
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Pure doesn't realize how close that battle was.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Bisu holds off the attack and takes out a reaver. Reaver count is still 2-1 in favor of Pure.
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Bisu doesn't have his shuittle in his nat and loses 1 reaver to reaver fire. Bisu defending amazing and kills the shuttle of pure. and is left with 1 goon and 1 reaver/shuttle and takes out the reaver of pure. Pure is just making his expo. Bisu puts up a shield battery. Pure adding a 3rd gateway and Bisu already has 3 and Pure's expo is still not done and Bisu has been mining from his for a while now. Bisu easily in the lead.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Pure is going to attack again and I think he is significantly ahead in goon count.
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He snipes the shuttle of Pure as it tries to drops Bisu's main and is sending 3 goons to take out the load reaver. Pure with alot of goons.
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You both forget to mention Bisu's shuttle was away to pick up the second which Pure saw with an obs and then moved in the snipe Bisu's reaver with his two scarabs. Bisu wasn't there to pick it up and it almost cost him the game.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
lol wtf Bisu snipes out Pure's reaver on the cliff. I don't know what pure was trying to do there.
edit: oops, missed part of the game
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Actually Bisu decides to take the reaver out with his reaver in his shuttle and is adding 2 more gateways to mke 5.
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Bisu attacking and has good shuttle micro and draws alot of goon fire to his shuttle but keeps mving it back and keeping it aliove. he loses his first reaver and then his shuttle and has 1 reaver and 4-5 goons alive but microing the reaver and saves it but final loses it. PURE HAS NO GOONS AND BISU has 2 goons left and its firing on the probes of Purea nd Bisu has shuttle and reaver out again and bringing in about 7 goons.
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Bisu now flooding in with Dragoon's. This is over for Pure
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Bisu moving in with about 9 goons and takes out the reaver.
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3 Lions
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Bisu brings in the reabver and takes out all the goons and shuttle of pure and kills a lot of probes and Pure GG's
TOO EASY FOR BISU!
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Bisu's micro was a lot better! Pure's shuttle/reaver pickup wasn't s-class at all!
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gg, nothing really that wasnt expected there, pure lost too many reavers there
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
thats right kim taek yong fightinggggg
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thanks for the stream corinthos, daum was lagging too bad :/
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When Bisu attacked Pure it was amazing how he can luring Pure into trying to snipe his shuttle and moving it back and the goons would move into the reaver/goon fire. Really top notch micro from Bisu.
Anyways, I am going to go to sleep. I just wanted to see Bisu own Pure and now I can sleep happy.
edit: Thank you Corinthos for the stream because it is amazing
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dang pure looks like a wood elf
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Wow, I like the commentators screaming at each other
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Time for Mind to kick some s2 ass !
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what program do i need to get corinthos stream
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On December 15 2008 19:02 7itachi7 wrote:
what program do i need to get corinthos stream
vlc
btw nice name... ~.~
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thx a lot guys nice name itachii too
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my mind says mind my heart says s2 hurhur
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GO MIND! Need Fantasy PL Points!-_-
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Mind takeing his gas hmm intresting .
And walls in .
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mind pimp move
uses rax sight to kill ovie
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Mind manages to snipe an overlord using his lifted rax
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vultures attempt a runby but stop because of the sunken
hydras out, ebay going up
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spire going up
trades 2 vults for 2 hydras
golis out
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HATCHERY WALL
S2 HAS WALLED IN HIS NAT
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s2 has his 5th hatch building too
pretending he has a contain on mind and doing some harass with hydras
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s2 sniping random mines around the map and has transferred his drones to the gas expo @ 3
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s2 loses a scouting overlord carelessly
evo going up
MUTAS BUILT
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A random golaiths takes out the overload behind the natural of Mind. s2 massing vultures and about 6 vults manage to kill 1 hydralisk. s2 has 2 evolution chambers. Mind moves his vult to the expo @ 3 and lays minds their but the overloada and mutas + hydras stop anything from happening.
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muta harass gets a few kills for not much else
VULTS GOT TO S2'S 3RD AND KILL 4-5 DRONES!
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s2 is trying to harass with muta int he main but is pushed away by goliaths and Mind moves his vults and snipes 6-7 drones at the 3 oclock expo of s2 before them being killed by muta/hydra
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On December 15 2008 19:19 Yaqoob wrote:
A random golaiths takes out the overload behind the natural of Mind. s2 massing vultures and about 6 vults manage to kill 1 hydralisk. s2 has 2 evolution chambers. Mind moves his vult to the expo @ 3 and lays minds their but the overloada and mutas + hydras stop anything from happening.
gold :p
thanks for the live reports though^^
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2 VULTS RUN INTO S2'S MAIN
mutas kill a few badly positioned units
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s2 is killing a random turret behind the main of Mind and kills some golaiths. meanwhile mind sneaks 5 vults pass some hydra. 2 surive and head to the main of s2 but are killed by the mutas that return to defend.
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VULTS GET A TON OF DRONES AT 1
but mind is still 2 base vs 4 now
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Mind sends 2 vults to top right and kills 3-4 drones and lsays some mines before being taken out my muta and hydra with speed overlords. Mind without about 4-5 tanks and looking to move out.
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This is quickly building up to a mini version of the flash vs jd fight on katrina
S2 ATTACKS MIND'S 3RD BUT CAN'T GET THE CC AND LOSES A TON TO MINES AND MIND'S ARMY
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Mind is floating a CC to 8 o'clocka nd is laying mind and moving his army out. S2 is moving around the map and taking out mines. he has a big amry but it doesn't look big enough. He moves in and treies to take out the expo and runs his hydra into alot of mines.
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mind going for a fast 4th now
s2 desperately trying to apply pressure
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Mind returns and defends it with easy. He puts his vults in front and s2's muta tries to kill them but is pushed back by mass goliath.
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no idea what s2 is trying lol, get some defilers!
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mutas trying to harass, but mind has a wall of turrets
2 vessels scare them away, but don't get irrads out
DEFILER MOUND COMING UP
s2 now building beyond his half of the map
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Mind with a big army and with a sci vessel. Mind moving aroundt he map with vultures and has tones of turrets in his main and s2 trying to haras but pushed back. S2 getting lings and is done his hive and getting defiler temps. Some vults encounter s2 army in the middle and are taken out. s2 tests the defences of mind and doesn't attack s2 taking out a random ebay.
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s2 moves his muta to bottom left aand is taking out scvs and mine brains back his sci vessels and irriadtes them but s2 does an amazing job of spilting muta's
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lol that looked almost like a PvT attack 
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S2 is attacking. he is losing alot of units to mines and Mind has alot of tanks but they are taken out by mass hydra and overloads dropping lings. Mind looks worried.
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3 irrads destroy the vessel cloud
WOW THAT'S ALOT OF TANKS
MINES PROTECT THEM SO WELL
BUT GOLIS OUT OF POSITION
HYDRAS MANAGE TO KILL TANKS
PIMPEST PLAY
USES OVERORD CLUMP TO ABSORB GOLI FIRE SO THEY DON'T GET THERE TILL TOO LATE
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Swarms out, cleaning up the golis with hydra ling
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s2 is moving in with another big army. Seems he has crackings. he takes out 1 sci vessel and throws up a dark swarm. Mind seems like he is in trouble and s2 retreats his army.
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It is now 5 base Zerg versus 4 base terran.
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why not wait for defiler before engage?
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s2 moving in a handful of goliaths and trying to clear out the turrets below the 8 o'clock expo of mind possibly so he can use overloads with drops.
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s2 taking the 3rd right above mind's base!
TONS OF VULTS RUN BY
but they only get a few drones
Very nice play by s2
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s2 finally takes out the floating ebay and expands to the 5 o'clock base right nex to Minds main.
Mind moving about 6 vults to top right and minds are taking a lot of units. s2 has ultra tech. The vultures don't really take out hat many drones but just being annoying and laying mines.
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s2 has like, 2/3 of the map under control
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Mind has 3-4 vulture firing on the expo @ 5 but they are taken out.
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mind is playing like crap,he cant tvz with mech.
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When Mind mines out one more base he's dead.
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s2 amassing a huge hydra ball
mind can't even take out the expo at one of his 3rds
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wow mind is a turtling cunt he hasnt done shit except for vult harass and building 9000000000 turrets
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Insane amount of turrets in Mind's base.
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Mind's 4-5 vultures run into some lings and the first ultra ling of s2 and are killed without doing any damage. s2 almost takes out a sci vessel with his hydra. It seems he is waiting for more ultras and mind is massing more turrets in his main and s2 is using lings to get rid of mines on the map. Does an awesome mine drag ^-^
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A few zerglings drag a TON of mines
Mind playing turret defense at his main and the left side of the map
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omg, stop building more turrets, he is not going to fucking drop.
its going to be starving mind to death.
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sounds like a great match!
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Mines rape a ton of ultras
BUT THEY JUST KEEP COMING AND TAKE OUT MOST OF THE TANKS
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s2 is attacking with dark swarm/ultra and lings and dark swarms like the whole army of Mind and takes out 1-2 sci vessel. it seems all his hatchers are rallied to that place because untis are streaming in. Some mines rape a couple of tanks and scourge take out another sci vessel.
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Looks like mind wants to expo to 5 and has a command center floating their but s2 already has and expo there.
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s2 should build soome sunkers at his lower righthand base
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Mines destroy s2's army again
not sure if he can keep this up
mind planning on taking 5, taking out the hatch with a tank finally
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why doesn't he just plague? ds is doing nothing
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s2 attacking with a bunch of ultra/lings but mines are really dealing a ton of damage to s2's army and a tank is taking out the expo @ 5 from the cliff above it. a ling drags a mine into a tank and mind uses defensive matrix to save the tank. nice move.
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Mind will be at 1 mining base soon!
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god fucking damnit
why do zergs keep making ultralisks against mech
its SOOOO BAD
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s2 has thrown away so many units with those attacks.
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s2 attacking with a small army. Mind is moving closer and closer to s2 and his expos. s2 is just not doing enough damage and attacking with not enough units at once.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
S2 had a wonderful hydraling attack early on.
But now he's just wasting his advantage with crappy ultraling/swarm attacks.
And where the fuck is plague?
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looks like mind is slowly winning
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Looks like Mind is going to secure 5 o clock
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
S2 is playing brainlessly, just brainlessly.
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S2 needs to up his level of play.
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Plagues... 3 vessels instead of an army?
mind has 5
s2 about to lose 4...
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MinD very solid defences!
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fucking should make swarm instead of plauge
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god s2 is so shitty. he just threw waves and waves of units away at mind's nat.
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i don't know much about how zerg should play against mech terrans, but can someone please explain why s2 isn't taking the 10 oclock expo? i would think that, with his units are in the middle of the map, he would protect against vult harass pretty effectively.
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s2 is adding alot of sunkens to his highground expo 2 3 (the one with teh 2 small ramps) and plagues the vessels of mind. He consumes aot of lings but 1 or 2 of his defilers are irridated. Mind will soon be able to fire on the hatch. Mind moves the tank and is firing on the hatch.
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+2 Mech army is pure rape
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When all else fails
RUN YOUR ARMY INTO MINES FOR THE THIRD TIME!
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mind is playing like a fag
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s2 attacks and is losing too many units to mines and vultures because he sends in the lings first. very very very sloppy attack
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Fourth mine rape!
Mind didn't win this game, s2 lost it
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how to lose an incredibly won game, by s2
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
On December 15 2008 19:34 BlackStar wrote:
S2 needs to up his level of play.
He needs to grow a fucking brain.
Like right now he is playing like hes facing SK.
He's swarming, plaguing vessels only.
Damn he even made a sole muta for the vessel snipe, completely forgetting about goliaths.
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mind's going to take this. i tuned in really late, but it seems like s2 really threw this one away.
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s2 got outplayed, and he is shitty.
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s2 trying to attack the expo @ 8 but is getting raped by tank vults + mines and does no damage. Mind moving with a mass army of tank/goliath/vult and finally takes out the expo @ 3/4
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let this be a lesson to all of you why you shouldn't go ultras vs mech t.t
i mean look how nicely things were going w/ muta/ling/hydra
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Wow, s2 was doing well, until he decided to go ultraling. Don't ever, ever, ever go ultras against mech.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
On December 15 2008 19:36 disciple wrote:
S2 is playing like a fag
I agree, he really dropped the soap on this one.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
See what i did thur??
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s2, i think you need to attack more minefields with ultra ling
You can't lose if you do that again and again
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s2 still hasn't expoed to 11. I don't know why not. Mind moving towards the expo @ 3 with the big ramps with some vults and ming stuffs and is taking out some drones but s2 uses drone micro to screw up vult ai. 1 mine takes out 4-5 vults.
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Mind moving tanks onto the highground of 4 and has a turrent. It seems he wants to take that expo.
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s2 has no working bases, and Mind is just pushing up the map
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dont fuckin quote me like that, 4lines of turrets = faggy play
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Mind is moving his army throught he bridges and irridates a ultra and s2 attacks and loses his army agains and gg's.
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lol best high fives ever.
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I am hoping for Ace Match with Bisu.
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i cant believe i stayed up and watch this while i got finals to study.
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On December 15 2008 19:39 disciple wrote:
dont fuckin quote me like that, 4lines of turrets = faggy play
if you attack like s2 did, you completely deserve to lose. that was horrible decision making on the zerg's part.
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with the amount that the skt1 terrans used to go mech against zerg, how can s2 not have any clue how to play against it late game??
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god i hate u mind
go win the next 2 please skt1!!
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
On December 15 2008 19:39 disciple wrote:
dont fuckin quote me like that, 4lines of turrets = faggy play
You have to agree though, S2 played like a retard.
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Those ultras were soo useless. Hydramuta should have worked just fine? With plague, not dark swarm.
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On December 15 2008 19:39 disciple wrote:
dont fuckin quote me like that, 4lines of turrets = faggy play
sexy play when flash makes 3 lines of turrets against jd
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Wow. For a while there I thought s2 was actually going to pull it out over Mind... Well, I guess in the end he IS s2. And you'd think he'd actually know how to play against mech with all the practice he did against Fantasy.
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s2 did do a very good attack to take out 12-15 tanks when Mind set-up and took the expo @ 8 but everything went downhill from their
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
I hope this game answers the question of why Zerg go Hydra/muta/ling in ZvT mech.
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On December 15 2008 19:35 Sandster wrote:
i don't know much about how zerg should play against mech terrans, but can someone please explain why s2 isn't taking the 10 oclock expo? i would think that, with his units are in the middle of the map, he would protect against vult harass pretty effectively.
he wanted to deny terran (by taking terran expansion spots) from taking expansion (to dry him up) but as usually vs mech it fails.
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Fun game to watch, if nothing else.
Mind Bisu ace please!
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everyone here seems to be an expert in starcraft lol, stop bashing s2.
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Well at least s2 tried to attack.
Mind just turtled the WHOLE game. The only time he left his base was with a bunch of vultures.
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On December 15 2008 19:42 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 19:35 Sandster wrote:
i don't know much about how zerg should play against mech terrans, but can someone please explain why s2 isn't taking the 10 oclock expo? i would think that, with his units are in the middle of the map, he would protect against vult harass pretty effectively. he wanted to deny terran (by taking terran expansion spots) from taking expansion (to dry him up) but as usually vs mech it fails.
ah thanks, it still doesn't make sense to me but then again neither does going ultra. it'd be great if fantasy goes mech next game and loses to proper lategame zerg play.
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i think it was more suicide then attack
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On December 15 2008 19:40 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 19:39 disciple wrote:
dont fuckin quote me like that, 4lines of turrets = faggy play You have to agree though, S2 played like a retard.
yes I do, but this is not changing the fact that mind played like the terran fag he is. and no, flash's 3lines of turrets vs JD and vs bisu on bs and katrina were not sexy. god I hate it when the terran do the "fuck you, I have my 3 gas up, now I will turtle like a pussy, get my 3/3 ups maxed out army and roll over you". I know this is like the thing you must do when playing terran but they could make it less obvious by not making a ton of turrets like a BGH noobs
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and the thing is he threw like 2 groups of ultraling everytime why cant he wait for like 10 groups to actually do something as 2 groups only clear the mines
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GJ Mind see you in Ace match . Better earn me does extra points !!!
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On December 15 2008 18:34 Corinthos wrote:
wemade vs skt1 vlc stream:
mmsh://75.126.18.2:2618
Thank you so much :D
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On December 15 2008 19:49 ColdLava wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 18:34 Corinthos wrote:
wemade vs skt1 vlc stream:
mmsh://75.126.18.2:2618 Thank you so much :D
ehm mms://75.126.18.2:2618
without h
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the kespa guy is going in keke's booth to tell him he is gonna get raped
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keke will respond to that with a 1pool
On December 15 2008 19:54 disciple wrote:
the kespa guy is going in keke's booth to tell him he is gonna get raped
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On December 15 2008 19:56 Sazchu wrote:keke will respond to that with a 1pool Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 19:54 disciple wrote:
the kespa guy is going in keke's booth to tell him he is gonna get raped
So that means he's gonna kill 3 of his initial drones and proceed to 1 pool. I like that!
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 15 2008 19:56 Sazchu wrote:
keke will respond to that with a 1pool
1pool = suiciding 3 drones, mining with the last one, making a pool with it, and then just chilling with nothing mining until getting killed?
gosu strat imo. i should try it out
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keke with just 3 sunks? he needs at least 5 more... thank god Pure didnt made 59 cannons agains bisu
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Fantasy been taking some lessons from Rage
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Why do we even have to see stuff like that in a pro game?
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And Nal_keke rapes him
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
jaedong vs foreigner lings
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great keke, not quite 1pool but good enough ^^
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i can't believe he forgot to block his choke with the medic. i always thought fantasy was overrated, but this was just...
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Anyone care to explain what happned?
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wtf fantasy
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Brillliant runby from keke, totally raped Fantasy. GG!
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and whose mother was that
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Wtf I tune in to see Fantasy with one base, one firebat, one SV, one medic, one rax, one fact, one starport, one comsat, one refinery, one CC
Wtf kind of build is this?
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~fantasy must feel like shit
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On December 15 2008 20:05 kemoryan wrote:
Anyone care to explain what happned?
keke 2hat muta, fantasy 1rax into tech, and moves out after his first medic. he just walks around the middle of the map for no reason, forgets to block his choke, and gets overran by lings.
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On December 15 2008 20:06 Itachii wrote:
and whose mother was that
fantasy's. the commentators said that
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On December 15 2008 20:05 kemoryan wrote:
Anyone care to explain what happned?
I'm not really good at SC, but apparently Fantasy was teching and sent his rines and stuff out, and keke did a speedling runby into fantasy's base and dealt lots of damage to scvs and economy. Then the mutas came in and cleaned up.
Fantasy never really massed enough units to defend :\
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On December 15 2008 20:06 BanZu wrote:
Wtf I tune in to see Fantasy with one base, one firebat, one SV, one medic, one rax, one fact, one starport, one comsat, one refinery, one CC
Wtf kind of build is this?
better then a 1 pool build i must say !!
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On December 15 2008 20:06 BanZu wrote:
Wtf I tune in to see Fantasy with one base, one firebat, one SV, one medic, one rax, one fact, one starport, one comsat, one refinery, one CC
Wtf kind of build is this?
The Power Of One
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Fantasy looks sad
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i hope best doesn't fail against zerg again
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never bring your mother to watch your games if you are planning to rape. no mother wants her son to be a rapist
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ok BeSt please win, SKT1 is counting on you to keep the streak alive!!
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by the way what the hell is up with these commentator commercials? lol
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Everything is going according to plan i expect Mind to dish out the rape in the Ace match !
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Ok this is what I see: Best wins and we'll see Bisu vs Mind ACE with Bisu winning and my fantasy rank going 20 spots up!
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Roro wont let this go to ace.
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That's true, always nice when things go according to play line they are now(wouldnt mind RorO winning but i don't think that'll happen)
On December 15 2008 20:11 raga4ka wrote:
Everything is going according to plan i expect Mind to dish out the rape in the Ace match !
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I wonder what Roro has in planned here. He's obviously sent in as Best's sniper seeing how this is Best's map.
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BeSt will rape RoRo with ease. Then rape again the the Ace match. Unless they send Hyuk lol.
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Best at 1
Roro at 11
roro scouting correctly
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9pool speed, not overpool
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Lair after 3 hatches at 3 bases
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this is just wrong....darn...
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Didn't RoRo update ling's speed ?
WTF is RoRo doing leting the scout in ... and what happent to the speed ?
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BEST SNEAKS A PROBE IN AND SCOUTS THE SPIRE!
saving 1000th post for an epic lr
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
afaik its a corinthos relay ie one of our users is relaying the stream for everyone to enjoy
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BeSt did a REALLY good job scouting. He hid a second scouting probe after his first died, and the second probe scouted everything (3 hatch muta).
edit: nwm. Roro getting scourages.
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Roro not very alert this game.
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the lings were kind enough to let the probe pass right through them on its way back.
best going reaver/sair
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MrHoon
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HAHA BURROWED LING STOPS BESTS 3RD
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This is shaping up to be a long game. Haven't seen sair/reaver for a while now. Although every time I do now, it reminds me of Stork/GGPlay.
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Roro has 5 hatcheries now. A burrowed ling prevents best from making another expo lol.
BeSt has at least 2 OL snipes and has done a great job kliling scourage.
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HYDRAS SNIPE THE SHUTTLE WITH THE REAVER
D:
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MrHoon
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LOL best is fucking everything up
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Best's playing very sloppily, lost the shuttle
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Frick, I don't know if BeSt can take this anymore
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Oh god mass hydra incoming
and best has only a dt and non shuttled reaver to defend
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dts hold!
hydras so willingly clump up for best's scarabs
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burrow saves drones form dts
slow ovies try to defend!
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MrHoon
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best's 3rd finally going up
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On December 15 2008 20:29 MrHoon wrote:
lol burrow is awesome
Yeah Best's probe was like WTF @ trying to place the nexus
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BEST WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOINGGG
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Burrow winning the game for Roro right now.
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lol best wtf are you doing
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Pimp lurker eggs blocking ramp
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
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Shuttle sniped by scourge
assuming there were reavers in there...
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 15 2008 20:29 Vivi57 wrote:
best's 3rd finally going up
congratulations sir you are now a corsair
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yeah lose more shuttles best
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wow... best is playing sooooooooooo sloppy. losing so many shuttles >.>
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MrHoon
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OOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG
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OMG STORMS ON LIKE 8 LURKER EGGS
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OH GOD EPIC STORMS ON THOSE LURKER EGGS, KILL OFF SO MANY LURKERS
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On December 15 2008 20:31 motbob wrote:congratulations sir you are now a corsair
yeyz
hive incoming...
5 bases vs 3?
12 LURKER EGGS STORMED
THEY AL DIE
RORO PULLING A JAEDONG
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OH SNAP 8 LURKER EGGS DIE TO TWO STORMS
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STORM KILLED LIKE ALL THE LURKER EGGS WOOOOOOOO TIMINGGGGG
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LOOOOOOL OMFG THAT WAS PERFECT HAHAHA
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ALL THE LURKER EGGS DIE TO STORM OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PERFECT TIMING + STORM BY BEST!
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MrHoon
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oh my god I cant stop laughing lool
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woah, that was sexy timing o.O
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How the hell did best win that? O_o
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that was such an oov-like game.
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lol best is so lucky that he found all those morphing lurks...
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WTH how did Best get such a huge army advantage?
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HOLY SHIT
GG
Best looks like he's in shock
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WTF RoRo can't macro at all ...
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GG from Roro
Wtf happened with the lurkers, and where were the lings in that game?
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Wow, that was fucking crazyyyyy, lurks get raped ggnore
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
there goes the game lololol
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Bisu for ACE pleaseeeee!!
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
goddamn that is almost as fail as Flash vs GGplay
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Best got that game handed to him on a silver platter when he saw that "YES CLUMPED LURKERS STILL IN THEIR EGGS!"
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I was reading on how Best is losing shuttles and behind and I open stream to see a massive army storming lurker eggs and rolling Roro.
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Holy shit Best, that was fucking divine timing.
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best lost those shuttles on purpose so roro wouldnt feel so bad after losing
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Bisu for Ace to win for SK would be great for fantasy proleague. However, I think pretty much every team has Bisu so I probably won't gain a lot of places with it.
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haha I adore best's pvz. everytime he is trying to be bisu for like 5 min, he fails miserably , then he makes like a ton of shit and kills his helpless opponent :D
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rofl that made my night/morning
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Between roro and s2, I can see why zergs are failing so badly...
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Way to go Roro ^_^ You still suck =D
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MrHoon
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BISU VS MIND PLZZZZZZZZZZ
On December 15 2008 20:34 Vivi57 wrote:
Between roro and s2, I can see why zergs are failing so badly...
seriously. Not to mention Jaedong vs Kal
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OOV FOR ACE!!!
CALLING IT RIGHT NOW!
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On December 15 2008 20:32 rA.Hippie wrote:
How the hell did best win that? O_o
Anyway yaay! ace match
What? He never seemed behind. PvZ with equal base/gas count is very bad for the zerg. Add to this the best macro the protoss have to offer and ypu have it.
Yeah, he lost some shuttles/reavers but it really never seemed Best was behind at any point.
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WTF, Roro had advantage after killing 2 shuttles, but from where come Best's army ?
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oh well, things are goin according too plan, yet so close to going so righlty wrong.
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Hoping for Bisu vs. Mind here.
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crazy thing is, even if those lurks morphed, it would still more or less an even fight. best lost a lot early in the game but roro lost a lot of hydras, too.
anyway mind games (no pun intended) for ace should be interesting. it'll be either bisu or best, so do you send a terran (and get rolled by best) or a zerg (and get raped by bisu)? probably will be mind though.
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On December 15 2008 20:34 hymn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 20:32 rA.Hippie wrote:
How the hell did best win that? O_o
Anyway yaay! ace match What? He never seemed behind. PvZ with equal base/gas count is very bad for the zerg. Add to this the best macro the protoss have to offer and ypu have it. Yeah, he lost some shuttles/reavers but it really never seemed Best was behind at any point.
Best was at 3 bases vs 5
It felt like he'd lost any chance to shut down expos so he was trying a last ditch effort to hurt the main
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Mind vs. Bisu match coming up, I think. Best may be a macro beast but he can't handle Mind's TvP when it's at its zenith.
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On December 15 2008 20:34 disciple wrote:
haha I adore best's pvz. everytime he is trying to be bisu for like 5 min, he fails miserably , then he makes like a ton of shit and kills his helpless opponent :D
QFT :D
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when zergs stops with the stupid +1 range attack they might start doing good again, but until then they are just stupid imo.
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On December 15 2008 20:35 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 20:34 hymn wrote:On December 15 2008 20:32 rA.Hippie wrote:
How the hell did best win that? O_o
Anyway yaay! ace match What? He never seemed behind. PvZ with equal base/gas count is very bad for the zerg. Add to this the best macro the protoss have to offer and ypu have it. Yeah, he lost some shuttles/reavers but it really never seemed Best was behind at any point. Best was at 3 bases vs 5 It felt like he'd lost any chance to shut down expos so he was trying a last ditch effort to hurt the main
It was kinda 3 base vs 4 base which is pretty equal.
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On December 15 2008 20:33 kemoryan wrote:
WTH how did Best get such a huge army advantage?
Zerg saced lategame 4-5 base play for a very hardcore 5 hat hydra. He cut drones and eco overall. He didn't even have speed that late dt drop happend, because he put everything to stop bests third. and then took his fourth late. He realized his error and dual expoed at 7 while going 3 evo and planning for hydra/lurker defence. Its sad that alot of bottom tier pro zergs are sacing lategame for midgame aggression without even throwing in a tech switch t.t.
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Might have been Bul_T dancing
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On December 15 2008 20:37 Vivi57 wrote:
WAS THAT BEST DANCING?
YES SIR
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On December 15 2008 20:35 baubo wrote:
Hoping for Bisu vs. Mind here.
Would be hype.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On December 15 2008 20:35 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 20:34 hymn wrote:On December 15 2008 20:32 rA.Hippie wrote:
How the hell did best win that? O_o
Anyway yaay! ace match What? He never seemed behind. PvZ with equal base/gas count is very bad for the zerg. Add to this the best macro the protoss have to offer and ypu have it. Yeah, he lost some shuttles/reavers but it really never seemed Best was behind at any point. Best was at 3 bases vs 5 It felt like he'd lost any chance to shut down expos so he was trying a last ditch effort to hurt the main
he never was at 3 vs 5 bases...
the 5th base was just being built when the game ended, not sure how many drones were at the 4th base
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What the hell is on the stream?
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On December 15 2008 20:35 monstar123 wrote:
WTF, Roro had advantage after killing 2 shuttles, but from where come Best's army ?
Ok, what kind of an advantage did he had?
Was he able to take expansions freely all over the map or was he able to attack and kill Best right when the two shuttles have died?
I didn't see any sort of a decisive advantage for Roro. Not that it's good losing shuttles like that but in this game it really didn't matter and the shuttle death only prolonged the outcome.
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My bad then, I wasn't following to too closely, I just looked at the minimap and watched maynards to that corner
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Best just in another gaming world than RoRo
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haha Zerg promotion MSL ad.
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s2 vs mind rematch please =D
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Shit, I missed Best dancing.
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On December 15 2008 20:37 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 20:35 Vivi57 wrote:On December 15 2008 20:34 hymn wrote:On December 15 2008 20:32 rA.Hippie wrote:
How the hell did best win that? O_o
Anyway yaay! ace match What? He never seemed behind. PvZ with equal base/gas count is very bad for the zerg. Add to this the best macro the protoss have to offer and ypu have it. Yeah, he lost some shuttles/reavers but it really never seemed Best was behind at any point. Best was at 3 bases vs 5 It felt like he'd lost any chance to shut down expos so he was trying a last ditch effort to hurt the main It was kinda 3 base vs 4 base which is pretty equal.
With 4 drones on the 4th base which is pretty much nothing at this point of the game. Seriously.
A last and desperate attack at the main? Did we watch the same game? Best had an army advantage far too big to beat with this macro Roro displayed. I mean pure hydra with a lurker here and there vs 3 control groups zeal/goon/ht and a reaver that died but it didn't even matter.
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What i dont understand is Roro had lurk tech for a long time, if had enough gas to morph 12 at once, why didnt he make a few earlier?
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OMG, Best didnt dance,that was Bul_T
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OH SNAP FANTASY VS MIND
Oh lol that was bisu?
On December 15 2008 20:44 Myxomatosis wrote:
fantasy vs mind. sick.
No it's fantasy vs mind... you liar
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fantasy mind. nice choice
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go fantasy kill that turtling mind!!!
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2 TvTs in both streams ! TT
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yep those two can make tvt bearable to watch.
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fantasy's current hair style makes him sort of look like boxer.
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Rematch from incruit comeing yay .
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Fantasy better be the map expert or something, because how could they not send out Bisu or Best knowing a terran's playing?
I hope they don't regret giving Wemade a chance to win this series.
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On December 15 2008 20:46 CapO wrote:
fantasy's current hair style makes him sort of look like boxer.
Looks a LOT like boxer. Can't wait til Boxer gets back into SKT1. Then for Ace everyone'll be like "crap was that boxer or fantasy??!?!?"
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Ugh such a good opportunity for Bisu/Best vs Mind lost here =(
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
doh, i was so happy Fantasy lost since i didn't have him in my fantasy team(no pun intended).
now they send him out to ace, but i need him to win anyway to earn me heaps of team points
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i don't mind the tvt but...i do mind skt not sending their best choice (best) against mind -_-
seriously best is like 3-0 in ace.
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On December 15 2008 20:45 De4ngus wrote:
Whaaaa? Why not Best???
Fantasy is mad cause he played like a disabled dude with chopped off left arm in his tvz and wants to redeem himself.
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Haha, + Show Spoiler +eSTRO/OGN has a TvT ace match also.
Let's see if Mind can get revenge for getting knocked out of Incruit.
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9070 Posts
time to redeem yourself fantasy ! really wished for best/bisu because of my fpl team but I <3 fantasy so much
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On December 15 2008 20:46 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 20:46 CapO wrote:
fantasy's current hair style makes him sort of look like boxer. Looks a LOT like boxer. Can't wait til Boxer gets back into SKT1. Then for Ace everyone'll be like "crap was that boxer or fantasy??!?!?"
LOOOOL
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
should've been oov vs nada!
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On December 15 2008 20:50 Carnac wrote:
should've been oov vs nada!
I almost cum in my pants imagining this...
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9070 Posts
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
starting, Mind red @ 7, Fantasy green @ 2
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Fantasy took his refinery before rax
Proxy factory by mind
edit; No one cares =(
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LOL both going for proxy fact.
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fantasy scouts mind's proxy!!
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On December 15 2008 20:59 imDerek wrote:
fantasy scouts mind's proxy!!
Fantasy: :o
Mind: >:o
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Mind loled when he got scouted.
lol!
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fantasy chasing down and killed mind's 2 tanks!!!
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Crazy TvT . Mind's Micro is amazing !!!
Minds Level above compatition
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Damn it Fantasy needs TANKS
Ah it's gg Mind has siege mode
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all right, i havte tvt, amazing GAME
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Seriously, i feel sorry for Fantasy :<
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Mind's mine kills 3 goals >;o
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Fantasy contained
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It's amazing how many matches T1 has lost because for some inexplicable reason Best/Bisu aren't automatically chosen for Ace.
Edit: Nevermind. For some reason I thought Mind already had his expo. So Fantasy's not done yet.
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i don't think it's as over as you guys make it seems
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MrHoon
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come on fantasy make a comeback!!
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MrHoon
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bad wireless router = gay
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Both players running out of minerals from 1 base !!!!
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Good thing Fantasy didn't win the OSL. Two stupid mistakes losing them 2 games, assuming this is going to be won by Mind of course.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
haha Mind's mine saw the dropship
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
fantasy needs some boxer vultures to turn this game around
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Mine of fortune right there.
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Fantasy is out of minerals now...
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Fantasy is out of minerals.... gg
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dammit fantasy is mining out and hes still contained
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Fantasy oficially Mined out !!!
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It pisses me off how stubborn pros are about deviating from what they practiced. I WONT BUILD TANKS LALALALALA! He had every opportunity to kill the proxy factory (so 2 fact vs 0 fact), then the bunker, but he decided to do neither, and push tanks with just vultures and scvs.
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lol Mind has a turret way behind so he still can't land his CC.
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Oh god, here comes Mind's turret ring again.
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Mind making turrets all around fantasy
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fantasy is so fucked right now I bet he can feel the cock up to his throat.
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MrHoon
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Haha, turrets kill fantasy's floating CC
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Fantasy lost a CC to turrets...
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this is what happens when you have both bisu AND best on the team and then send out some guy who's done nothing since getting wrecked in the finals.
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MrHoon
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man mind is just fucking cruel
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Fucking dumb SKT1 coach. Why didnt he send either Best or Bisu???
Better chance of winning and no boring tvt.
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On December 15 2008 21:14 Sandster wrote:
this is what happens when you have both bisu AND best on the team and then send out some guy who's done nothing since getting wrecked in the finals.
Lol fantasy is 2nd in proleague fantasy rank.
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 my fantasy PL points thanks a lot fantasy
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This is painful to watch.
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Fantsay is playing SO well! I pity him for the hopeless position he's in.
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GG from Fantasy
Damn it...
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GG! Nice mind. Go WEMADE!
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Russian Federation386 Posts
Yes, Mind ^^
He's carrying the team now and I'm happy he's winning.
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Everything went according to play, fantastic, Mind dominates
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Mind is pumped after that one.
Crown ranking for him, too.
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damn mind can be good , really an opponent that at any given time can defeat anyone, but also loose to anyone
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He would have won from a way behind position if he made sure cloak actually started when he meant to start it.
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Why didn't they send out BeSt or Bisu?
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
hmmm BeSt is getting +1 for streak today, right?
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2nd best Terran for sure, gets the benefit of the doubt over Sea for actually getting somewhere in Starleagues
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On December 15 2008 21:19 Carnac wrote:
hmmm BeSt is getting +1 for streak today, right?
yup
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wow, by.baby looks grown up since last time i saw him.
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9070 Posts
fantasy didnt destroy the bunker ... why for fuck sake
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I was laughing my ass off every time Mind foils one of Fantasy's move. They are both great terran players but Mind simply played ingeniously in this game.
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On December 15 2008 21:20 MrHoon wrote:I still think a Bisu/Mind game would've been more interesting
Me too. Even Best/Mind
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On December 15 2008 21:15 kemoryan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 21:14 Sandster wrote:
this is what happens when you have both bisu AND best on the team and then send out some guy who's done nothing since getting wrecked in the finals. Lol fantasy is 2nd in proleague fantasy rank.
true, i guess i was referring to the fact that he's just not that great at tvt (him getting dismantled by flash is still lingering on my mind). best's pvt or even bisu's would be much more reliable than fantasy's tvt.
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damn i have so mixed feelings after that game ;p
i really wanted sktt1 to win, but still mind is my favorite terran and i'm happy he won 2 games xD
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On December 15 2008 21:15 Highways wrote:
Fucking dumb SKT1 coach. Why didnt he send either Best or Bisu???
Better chance of winning and no boring tvt.
Abso-fuckin-lutely, you have the 2 of top 3 progamers and send mr. 1 hit wonder to get destroyed.
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MrHoon
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But seriously, goddamn Mind is just cruel lol
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9070 Posts
at least SKT tosses are like 22-3 in the PL after this
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Mind in Line up 1
Mind won 2
Mind in Ace 2
Mind won Ace 2
WeMade won 1
BAM 8 for me :O
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On December 15 2008 21:20 darktreb wrote:
2nd best Terran for sure, gets the benefit of the doubt over Sea for actually getting somewhere in Starleagues
Leta?
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Yes Mind! I almost could not have hoped for better results. Keep it going...
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and fantasy had incredibly bad luck, the cloaking finished like 10 sec after his first wraiths got killed
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MrHoon
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On December 15 2008 21:27 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 21:20 darktreb wrote:
2nd best Terran for sure, gets the benefit of the doubt over Sea for actually getting somewhere in Starleagues Leta?
Leta and Sea are basically the same, except Sea is just 100x cooler.
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Maybe he could have like... ran the wraiths and came back after cloaking was done -_- not luck.
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9070 Posts
allowing mind to finish the academy ?
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That was a great Ace match, but I believe that they should have put in Bisu or Best. It's tough to put someone who's already lost in the ace match, if they lose again they must really really feel awful.
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MrHoon
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On December 15 2008 21:28 disciple wrote:
and fantasy had incredibly bad luck, the cloaking finished like 10 sec after his first wraiths got killed
I dunno, I found Mind much more unluckier than Fantasy
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In ace matches this season,
Bisu/Best: 4-0
Everyone else: 2-4.
T1 coaches needs to stop trying to be cute and just send Best or Bisu out there EVERY SINGLE TIME.
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Why didn't they send Bisu?
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MrHoon
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On December 15 2008 21:33 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:
Why didn't they send Bisu?
they probably thought Mind was going to lose to Fantasy because of the previous osl
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skt need more Best or Bisu ACE -.-
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FANTASY ARRRGHHH AAARADSFdafdafdasf
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there goes the winning streak
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ah Fantasy...thou hast broken my heart
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Mind is molesting Baby! Maybe hes getting his strength from baby?
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awesome Mind
now go and take another MSL!
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Everybody is asking why they did not send Bisu. Cause Mind vs Bisu 3:1. Ofcourse it is in the past.
But watching Mind's tvp he is in his higher form.
Anyway Best could do it!
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On December 16 2008 05:22 monstar123 wrote:
Everybody is asking why they did not send Bisu. Cause Mind vs Bisu 3:1. Ofcourse it is in the past.
But watching Mind's tvp he is in his higher form.
Anyway Best could do it!
Actually it was Mind who ended Best's 11 won game streak the only time they met.
Sending any Protoss against in form Mind on balanced or Terran favored map is idiotic decision. Especially when you have in your team a player who kicked him out of last OSL.
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Damn, Fantasy shouldn't lost his game vs Keke , but oh well, at least Bisu and Best won their games  .
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On December 16 2008 05:22 monstar123 wrote:
Everybody is asking why they did not send Bisu. Cause Mind vs Bisu 3:1. Ofcourse it is in the past.
But watching Mind's tvp he is in his higher form.
Anyway Best could do it!
When you've got the one of the best PvTer and the best player in the world, you shouldn't be afraid of freaking Mind, regardless of history. If Bisu or Best are afraid of Mind, then they're pussies.
Fantasy just looked outmatched there. It was quite painful to watch.
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On December 16 2008 10:16 baubo wrote:
Fantasy just looked outmatched there. It was quite painful to watch.
man.......what?
only reason fantasy lost is because that proxy factory put mind way ahead because he could set up a contain. that fantasy almost broke mind like 3 times is a testament to his skill.
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Mind is not just one of the smartest players around hes also got game too. Hes nice to watch. He should win moaR
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On December 16 2008 12:56 KOFgokuon wrote:
fantasy = fail
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On December 16 2008 12:29 traced wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2008 10:16 baubo wrote:
Fantasy just looked outmatched there. It was quite painful to watch. man.......what? only reason fantasy lost is because that proxy factory put mind way ahead because he could set up a contain. that fantasy almost broke mind like 3 times is a testament to his skill.
Fantasy's lack of experience made him deal with it badly. It was scouted, so this wasn't a proxy rush that caught him off guard.
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I guess Fantasy was supposed to "Snipe" Mind but he just did his ingame celebration with mass turrets ~~
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Fantasy thought he had the game in the bag with his floating CC plan, he was going to land it in Mind's main and SCV rush him. But it was foiled by Mind's turrets. DUN DUN DUN GO MIND :D
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On December 15 2008 21:22 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 21:15 kemoryan wrote:On December 15 2008 21:14 Sandster wrote:
this is what happens when you have both bisu AND best on the team and then send out some guy who's done nothing since getting wrecked in the finals. Lol fantasy is 2nd in proleague fantasy rank. true, i guess i was referring to the fact that he's just not that great at tvt (him getting dismantled by flash is still lingering on my mind). best's pvt or even bisu's would be much more reliable than fantasy's tvt.
Fantasy's TvT is very good top 5 material for sure right now, Unfortunately Mind's is as well, and losing to Flash...well umm basically everyone loses TvT's to Flash, no shame there.
Mind, Flash, Sea, are clearly the terran all around juggernaughts. Forgg is close behind, and Leta is pretty damn close to, he doesnt choke either just occasionally loses to top/top players, Fantasy is also in the same league as those 2. Then we have the Berserker and like Light or something...well whatever.
edit: forgot fbh, hes basically like the top 3, except with noticeable subpar tvp.
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On December 16 2008 13:55 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2008 12:29 traced wrote:On December 16 2008 10:16 baubo wrote:
Fantasy just looked outmatched there. It was quite painful to watch. man.......what? only reason fantasy lost is because that proxy factory put mind way ahead because he could set up a contain. that fantasy almost broke mind like 3 times is a testament to his skill. Fantasy's lack of experience made him deal with it badly. It was scouted, so this wasn't a proxy rush that caught him off guard.
The way Fantasy handled that game, beginning from the moment he was behind, in fact shows a great deal of experience.
A lesser player prob woulda never broke through the containment. Mind was just too great with the pressure.
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