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On December 14 2008 13:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2008 13:08 Vasoline73 wrote:For ace it's going to be a guessing game for both teams. For instance... KTF would want to send Flash if they suspected Stork was coming out Khan would PROBABLY want to send out FBH to fight Flash (Jangbi has a 50/50 chance IMO) Against FBH ideally KTF would want to send Luxury. I think that FBH's TvT is more likely to snipe Flash than his TvZ sniping Lux (assuming Lux is in form, which he may not be...) Jangbi has the best chance of beating Flash and Lux so he could be Khan's safest choice. He'll need an early game cheese/risk to beat Flash though... and thr map will help him there. A funny but unlikely ace would be Stork V Lux  . I think ace will be FBH V. Flash though I believe that Stork>Jangbi in all Matchups. Maybe not PvZ but I'm still iffy, all Jangbi has shown in his PvZ lately is that he can macro. No outstanding Reaver/Sair usage or tricky tech switches. There is a lot more to pvz than macro, which is why Stork is subpar at it. Jangbi understands the match up, he has good game sense and good multitasking. You don't need to have amazing sair/dt in order to be a great pvz player.
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i personally think sin chupon reyong favors t over p.
so if it comes down to that matchup i think ktf takes this
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I think Samsung wins 3-1. Possibly even, dare I say.. 3-0???
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stork<flash
juni<tempest
fbh>815
jangbi>luxury
closer:
stork<flash
i guarantee that flash is not going to lose to stork... and this lose in this proleague match will put him in a slope and never make it past round of 16 in osl
p.s. if fbh lose to 815 ima just slit my wrist lol...
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damn worst comes to worst flash might have to play six games today
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I think 3-1 Samsung is a total possibility. But if KTF steps up they'll take it for sure
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as soon as i saw this line up i shouted "OH DOO DOO!"
I'm excited.
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stork vs flash OMGGG
who to cheer for
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Predicting:
Flash > Stork- Flash is too awesome to lose in a macro game on a t map.
Tempest > Juni- I don't know who this is, but Tempest just beat Jaedong
815 < Firebathero- TvZ beast when he needs to be
Luxury < Jangbi- I think they are about the same level, but I want to see an ace match
Flash > Jangbi- Flash abuse
awesome lineups
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On December 14 2008 13:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2008 13:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 14 2008 13:08 Vasoline73 wrote:For ace it's going to be a guessing game for both teams. For instance... KTF would want to send Flash if they suspected Stork was coming out Khan would PROBABLY want to send out FBH to fight Flash (Jangbi has a 50/50 chance IMO) Against FBH ideally KTF would want to send Luxury. I think that FBH's TvT is more likely to snipe Flash than his TvZ sniping Lux (assuming Lux is in form, which he may not be...) Jangbi has the best chance of beating Flash and Lux so he could be Khan's safest choice. He'll need an early game cheese/risk to beat Flash though... and thr map will help him there. A funny but unlikely ace would be Stork V Lux . I think ace will be FBH V. Flash though I believe that Stork>Jangbi in all Matchups. Maybe not PvZ but I'm still iffy, all Jangbi has shown in his PvZ lately is that he can macro. No outstanding Reaver/Sair usage or tricky tech switches. There is a lot more to pvz than macro, which is why Stork is subpar at it. Jangbi understands the match up, he has good game sense and good multitasking. You don't need to have amazing sair/dt in order to be a great pvz player.
Stork is not subpar at PvZ, he's decent, just like Jangbi. Jangbi shows a sufficient understanding of PvZ. Like vs Effort, he took his nat and pressured at the same time, but his attack was ineffective and gave a slight advantage to Effort. Jangbi is not great at PvZ, actually, it's more accurate to say that his PvZ is untested. We can't say if he's good at it or not unless he actually beats real players, and his lose to Effort does not help his cause. Don't say effort is on a tear; he was on a tear, but he's inconsistent. Effort didn't play godly in that game either, but he did play great, something that Jangbi has lost to.
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On December 14 2008 13:35 zhaoli86 wrote:
why 6 games?
maybe another draw? remember the last flash vs jangbi.
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On December 14 2008 12:01 Fontong wrote:That was Yarnc, I bet Luxury is looking to avenge his zerg twin though.
I always mixed them up.
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FBH should be sent out if it comes to the ace match, since KTF has no Protoss gosu enough to take him on.
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noone is gosu enough to take on fbh
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On December 14 2008 13:56 OSWater wrote:
noone is gosu enough to take on fbh
Any Protoss that appeared in the RO8 of both Starleagues last season, plus a couple of others like Pusan could take him on.
Edit: Of course, I'm referring to taking him on at Starcraft. If it were a dancing contest on the other hand...
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On December 14 2008 13:54 Jyvblamo wrote:
FBH should be sent out if it comes to the ace match, since KTF has no Protoss gosu enough to take him on.
good point. FBH is decent enough to take on Flash and definitely more than capable of taking down Luxury... but seriously, why send out FBH when you have Jangbi? ; )
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On December 14 2008 13:44 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2008 13:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 14 2008 13:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 14 2008 13:08 Vasoline73 wrote:For ace it's going to be a guessing game for both teams. For instance... KTF would want to send Flash if they suspected Stork was coming out Khan would PROBABLY want to send out FBH to fight Flash (Jangbi has a 50/50 chance IMO) Against FBH ideally KTF would want to send Luxury. I think that FBH's TvT is more likely to snipe Flash than his TvZ sniping Lux (assuming Lux is in form, which he may not be...) Jangbi has the best chance of beating Flash and Lux so he could be Khan's safest choice. He'll need an early game cheese/risk to beat Flash though... and thr map will help him there. A funny but unlikely ace would be Stork V Lux . I think ace will be FBH V. Flash though I believe that Stork>Jangbi in all Matchups. Maybe not PvZ but I'm still iffy, all Jangbi has shown in his PvZ lately is that he can macro. No outstanding Reaver/Sair usage or tricky tech switches. There is a lot more to pvz than macro, which is why Stork is subpar at it. Jangbi understands the match up, he has good game sense and good multitasking. You don't need to have amazing sair/dt in order to be a great pvz player. Stork is not subpar at PvZ, he's decent, just like Jangbi. Jangbi shows a sufficient understanding of PvZ. Like vs Effort, he took his nat and pressured at the same time, but his attack was ineffective and gave a slight advantage to Effort. Jangbi is not great at PvZ, actually, it's more accurate to say that his PvZ is untested. We can't say if he's good at it or not unless he actually beats real players, and his lose to Effort does not help his cause. Don't say effort is on a tear; he was on a tear, but he's inconsistent. Effort didn't play godly in that game either, but he did play great, something that Jangbi has lost to. What top players is Jangbi suppose to fucking beat? Every zerg play sucks ass right now, beating the plethora that he has, is as legitimate as any player beating roughly 60% of a race's good players, decisively.
Jangbi's pvz is very good, Storks is mediocre.
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