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jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
November 25 2008 11:24 GMT
#161
This guy has some balls defusing mines left and right without obs
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2008 11:24 GMT
#162
On November 25 2008 20:13 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


Their stars, Bisu and Best, are 15-5. That's a ridiculously good record no matter how you look it. How can you blame them? The reason they lose is because Fantasy's only mediocre(5-4), while the rest of the team is WINLESS.

That's right. SKT1 has only THREE players with any wins at all.

Best losing to Tempest, Bisu losing to Tazza. Of course I don't blame them since I dislike SKT T1 -.-
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
LimitlessSky
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States434 Posts
November 25 2008 11:24 GMT
#163
Fantasy bringing some High Templars....
SKT1 Fighting! <3
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 25 2008 11:24 GMT
#164
WTF? Are OGN tosses going to go 2-0 here?
Meh
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 25 2008 11:25 GMT
#165
God the Daum Sports stream licks major assholes.
Graphics
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 25 2008 11:25 GMT
#166
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.


I think it's pretty damn excusable. His micro with goons + zeals was flawless.

His micro with reavers was god-like.

In mid-game PvP, that's all it is. The only problem is that Bisu didn't get reaver/ht - tech. Despite that fact, top tier players lose all the time, it's not like Bisu is slumping he'll get back in to it and hes allowed a loss or so once in a while.
We see things they'll never see
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 25 2008 11:27 GMT
#167
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.

Your theory makes absolutely no sense. Your statement implies that all Starleague winners should never lose any games (in their best MU), just because they're good at that certain matchup.
Graphics
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2008 11:27 GMT
#168
On November 25 2008 20:25 Tensai176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.


I think it's pretty damn excusable. His micro with goons + zeals was flawless.

His micro with reavers was god-like.

In mid-game PvP, that's all it is. The only problem is that Bisu didn't get reaver/ht - tech. Despite that fact, top tier players lose all the time, it's not like Bisu is slumping he'll get back in to it and hes allowed a loss or so once in a while.

That means that he should have gotten the tech. -.- The game isn't only about micro. And indeed, those few losses lose games for SKTT1
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 25 2008 11:28 GMT
#169
I need to change teams.
We see things they'll never see
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2008 11:29 GMT
#170
On November 25 2008 20:27 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.

Your theory makes absolutely no sense. Your statement implies that all Starleague winners should never lose any games (in their best MU), just because they're good at that certain matchup.

Of course they can lose games, but not to people in their first televised game -_-;;;;
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 25 2008 11:30 GMT
#171
On November 25 2008 20:25 Tensai176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.


I think it's pretty damn excusable. His micro with goons + zeals was flawless.

His micro with reavers was god-like.

In mid-game PvP, that's all it is. The only problem is that Bisu didn't get reaver/ht - tech. Despite that fact, top tier players lose all the time, it's not like Bisu is slumping he'll get back in to it and hes allowed a loss or so once in a while.


It's not an excuse when your team depends an you and you play without reavers or HT vs a lesser known player ...
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
November 25 2008 11:31 GMT
#172
This Haksoo guy is showing some ballsy play. He just did a 3 shuttle mass zealot break on Fantasy's choke, almost worked but they pretty much traded armies.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
November 25 2008 11:31 GMT
#173
lol t1 is shit
savior did nothing wrong
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11300 Posts
November 25 2008 11:32 GMT
#174
Shit, that was DAMN well defended by fantasy!
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 25 2008 11:33 GMT
#175
On November 25 2008 20:30 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:25 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.


I think it's pretty damn excusable. His micro with goons + zeals was flawless.

His micro with reavers was god-like.

In mid-game PvP, that's all it is. The only problem is that Bisu didn't get reaver/ht - tech. Despite that fact, top tier players lose all the time, it's not like Bisu is slumping he'll get back in to it and hes allowed a loss or so once in a while.


It's not an excuse when your team depends an you and you play without reavers or HT vs a lesser known player ...


Bisu probably was looking for a timing window where he can exploit the beginners skill. He was looking to probably kill a shuttle carrying 2 reavers and overpower him with gateway units, something of that nature. Just didn't expect that the protoss he was facing was going to be that good.

Fantasy pulling off a come back right now o_o
We see things they'll never see
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11300 Posts
November 25 2008 11:33 GMT
#176
Haksoo lost terribly much at that attack and suddenly fantasy has an additional expansion and is chasing him over the map. He might well win this now.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11300 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 11:35:43
November 25 2008 11:34 GMT
#177
Clutch stasis freezes half of fantasy's army! Haksoo coming back now??

Really cool game, fantasy on the ropes again, as Haksoo is macroing like crazy and taking bottom right.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 11:35:26
November 25 2008 11:35 GMT
#178
On November 25 2008 20:33 Tensai176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:30 raga4ka wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:25 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.


I think it's pretty damn excusable. His micro with goons + zeals was flawless.

His micro with reavers was god-like.

In mid-game PvP, that's all it is. The only problem is that Bisu didn't get reaver/ht - tech. Despite that fact, top tier players lose all the time, it's not like Bisu is slumping he'll get back in to it and hes allowed a loss or so once in a while.


It's not an excuse when your team depends an you and you play without reavers or HT vs a lesser known player ...


Bisu probably was looking for a timing window where he can exploit the beginners skill. He was looking to probably kill a shuttle carrying 2 reavers and overpower him with gateway units, something of that nature. Just didn't expect that the protoss he was facing was going to be that good.

Fantasy pulling off a come back right now o_o

Underestimating a player equals bad play. Sigh.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 25 2008 11:35 GMT
#179
On November 25 2008 20:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:13 baubo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


Their stars, Bisu and Best, are 15-5. That's a ridiculously good record no matter how you look it. How can you blame them? The reason they lose is because Fantasy's only mediocre(5-4), while the rest of the team is WINLESS.

That's right. SKT1 has only THREE players with any wins at all.

Best losing to Tempest, Bisu losing to Tazza. Of course I don't blame them since I dislike SKT T1 -.-


Can you name a single player who DOESN'T lose to lesser players? Bisu has 3 MSL titles and wins less than 60% of his games. No one's invincible.

HOLY CRAP that was some awesome stasis. And I thought Fantasy had this game wrapped up.
Meh
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11300 Posts
November 25 2008 11:36 GMT
#180
Fantasy exploiting the middle terrain as a pushbreaker and pushing towards bottom right now. He has a decently sized army, but Haksoo still has more bases.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
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