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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 25 2008 11:37 GMT
#181
Nevermind, this game is still over.
Meh
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 25 2008 11:37 GMT
#182
Ghosts are coming out. Amazing plays by Fantasy clawing his way back into this.
We see things they'll never see
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11300 Posts
November 25 2008 11:38 GMT
#183
Nukes might be coming for fantasy, he has covered ops! Tankline holds in the middle and Haksoo has to retreat.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
November 25 2008 11:38 GMT
#184
haha is fantasy really doing this? fun game
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
November 25 2008 11:38 GMT
#185
LOL Fantasy is building GHOSTS!! No nuke silo up yet, maybe lockdown?
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11300 Posts
November 25 2008 11:39 GMT
#186
Tanks siege inside the bottom right main, killing the gateways there. No silo for fantasy yet, so maybe a plain lockdown that is coming.

GG FROM HAKSOO.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
November 25 2008 11:39 GMT
#187
Man first Flash and now Fantasy, some AMAZING TvP comebacks today.
God Hates a Coward
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
November 25 2008 11:39 GMT
#188
Damn i wanted to see some nukes lol
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
November 25 2008 11:39 GMT
#189
Bisu = did not use templar/reaver = FAIL

Stork = forgot goon range at least once in his lifetime = FAIL

MJY = same for adrenal glands = FAIL

Boxer = WTF opening against Calm's 9-pool on Raid Assault 2 = FAIL

Flash = used to have bad teeth = FAIL

And the list goes on and on, so in short all them pros suck. Logic wins!
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2008 11:40 GMT
#190
On November 25 2008 20:35 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:24 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:13 baubo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


Their stars, Bisu and Best, are 15-5. That's a ridiculously good record no matter how you look it. How can you blame them? The reason they lose is because Fantasy's only mediocre(5-4), while the rest of the team is WINLESS.

That's right. SKT1 has only THREE players with any wins at all.

Best losing to Tempest, Bisu losing to Tazza. Of course I don't blame them since I dislike SKT T1 -.-


Can you name a single player who DOESN'T lose to lesser players? Bisu has 3 MSL titles and wins less than 60% of his games. No one's invincible.

HOLY CRAP that was some awesome stasis. And I thought Fantasy had this game wrapped up.

Of course, but that's why they lose >_> When the aces of an ace-riding team lose... sigh, nevermind.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
November 25 2008 11:40 GMT
#191
On November 25 2008 19:52 zatic wrote:
Please update results in OP.


Read page 1

Op now fully updated.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 25 2008 11:40 GMT
#192
I got to imagine Bisu for T1, and Yarnc/Type-B for OGN.
Meh
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 25 2008 11:41 GMT
#193
On November 25 2008 20:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:33 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:30 raga4ka wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:25 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:22 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:05 Tensai176 wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


True Bisu lost to a no-name but that no-name played really really well. His Reaver micro was one of the best i've seen and he made no mistake coming back into the game. Bisu's only fault is not fucking getting any storm or any reaver of his own

So it's excusable for a MSL-winner of all-protoss semis to lose to a person because his "reaver micro was really good"? Umm, no.


I think it's pretty damn excusable. His micro with goons + zeals was flawless.

His micro with reavers was god-like.

In mid-game PvP, that's all it is. The only problem is that Bisu didn't get reaver/ht - tech. Despite that fact, top tier players lose all the time, it's not like Bisu is slumping he'll get back in to it and hes allowed a loss or so once in a while.


It's not an excuse when your team depends an you and you play without reavers or HT vs a lesser known player ...


Bisu probably was looking for a timing window where he can exploit the beginners skill. He was looking to probably kill a shuttle carrying 2 reavers and overpower him with gateway units, something of that nature. Just didn't expect that the protoss he was facing was going to be that good.

Fantasy pulling off a come back right now o_o

Underestimating a player equals bad play. Sigh.


Meh everyone does it but the reason bisu is so good is because of his meta-game. If the other player did play a bit less brilliant than he did, then bisu would've had that easily i think and thats what he was thinknig with his four gate. A bit of underestimate on bisu's part. A bit of brilliant play to counter it. I still thinks its excusable.

Amazing comeback from fantasy though XDD
We see things they'll never see
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 25 2008 11:41 GMT
#194
midas or bisu for SKT
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2008 11:41 GMT
#195
On November 25 2008 20:39 Metallingus wrote:
Bisu = did not use templar/reaver = FAIL

Stork = forgot goon range at least once in his lifetime = FAIL

MJY = same for adrenal glands = FAIL

Boxer = WTF opening against Calm's 9-pool on Raid Assault 2 = FAIL

Flash = used to have bad teeth = FAIL

And the list goes on and on, so in short all them pros suck. Logic wins!

Lol keep defending your T1, maybe it can catch up to eSTRO =)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
November 25 2008 11:44 GMT
#196
On November 25 2008 20:40 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:35 baubo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:24 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:13 baubo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:03 Shikyo wrote:
THIS right here is why SKTT1 loses games. Their big players can't consistantly win against no-names. Their Zergs don't help either..


Their stars, Bisu and Best, are 15-5. That's a ridiculously good record no matter how you look it. How can you blame them? The reason they lose is because Fantasy's only mediocre(5-4), while the rest of the team is WINLESS.

That's right. SKT1 has only THREE players with any wins at all.

Best losing to Tempest, Bisu losing to Tazza. Of course I don't blame them since I dislike SKT T1 -.-


Can you name a single player who DOESN'T lose to lesser players? Bisu has 3 MSL titles and wins less than 60% of his games. No one's invincible.

HOLY CRAP that was some awesome stasis. And I thought Fantasy had this game wrapped up.

Of course, but that's why they lose >_> When the aces of an ace-riding team lose... sigh, nevermind.

lol what dont you understand?? Best and Bisu are perfoming GREAT in PL, if the rest of their team had perfomed mediocre they would have been in the top of the league. When only 3players on a team is able to win games its not their fault the team suffers the few times they lose games... It would be like saying some soccer striker fails his team cuz he only scores 3 goals a game but his defence sucks and lets the opponent score 4 times.
God Hates a Coward
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 25 2008 11:44 GMT
#197
that shikyo dude is a pure idiot
Terran & Potato Salad.
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 11:45:58
November 25 2008 11:45 GMT
#198
On November 25 2008 20:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:39 Metallingus wrote:
Bisu = did not use templar/reaver = FAIL

Stork = forgot goon range at least once in his lifetime = FAIL

MJY = same for adrenal glands = FAIL

Boxer = WTF opening against Calm's 9-pool on Raid Assault 2 = FAIL

Flash = used to have bad teeth = FAIL

And the list goes on and on, so in short all them pros suck. Logic wins!

Lol keep defending your T1, maybe it can catch up to eSTRO =)


To be honest, I'm not defending T1. There's no excuse for losing, especially when your team depends on you like you've already said. Seriously though, some of the logic applied in the thread is horrible, losing being excusable included. On the other hand, Bisu being a worse PvPer than Kal and Jangbi (who are both less than 50% in the MU) because of losing this match? Come on.
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 25 2008 11:45 GMT
#199
On November 25 2008 20:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:39 Metallingus wrote:
Bisu = did not use templar/reaver = FAIL

Stork = forgot goon range at least once in his lifetime = FAIL

MJY = same for adrenal glands = FAIL

Boxer = WTF opening against Calm's 9-pool on Raid Assault 2 = FAIL

Flash = used to have bad teeth = FAIL

And the list goes on and on, so in short all them pros suck. Logic wins!

Lol keep defending your T1, maybe it can catch up to eSTRO =)


Oh, you betta watch out. Afta tonight we will be ahead of eSTRO!! XD.

Blind Fanboyism ftw.
We see things they'll never see
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2008 11:46 GMT
#200
On November 25 2008 20:45 Metallingus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 20:41 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2008 20:39 Metallingus wrote:
Bisu = did not use templar/reaver = FAIL

Stork = forgot goon range at least once in his lifetime = FAIL

MJY = same for adrenal glands = FAIL

Boxer = WTF opening against Calm's 9-pool on Raid Assault 2 = FAIL

Flash = used to have bad teeth = FAIL

And the list goes on and on, so in short all them pros suck. Logic wins!

Lol keep defending your T1, maybe it can catch up to eSTRO =)


To be honest, I'm not defending T1. There's no excuse for losing, especially when your team depends on you like you've already said. Seriously though, some of the logic applied in the thread is horrible, losing being excusable included.

Of course, but.... sigh, if a player of that caliber loses to a player on his first... well, they deserve the bashing =P

Fantasy pulled off a Flash O_o But OGN's protosses were pretty impressive, their line up is seriously so, so deep.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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