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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 23:11:12
November 18 2008 23:10 GMT
#401
On November 19 2008 01:08 jwd241224 wrote:
Kal's vP winrate is 44%...but he always beats Stork? lol.
The win ratio is deceiving, since his first semi-final against Jangbi hes had like a 60% win ratio or something along those lines.
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naladak
Profile Joined November 2008
United States10 Posts
November 19 2008 00:03 GMT
#402
I didn't expect stork to win his 1st match with Calm but the Ace match was a a little disappointing. As long as FBH & Jangbi are winning, I am satisfied.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 00:28:58
November 19 2008 00:28 GMT
#403
I just watched the games and wanted to ask a question, isnt it like 2 gates ranged goons + obs > 1 gate fast dark tech, meaning that if the darks do not do any damage the 2 gate goons can trap you in your base if there is a ramp or even finish you when there is no ramp..moreover if you fast expand after the darks who didnt do anydamage, isnt it even easier to lose , I know that stork neven attacked and Kal had time to do whatever, but I was expecting Stork to know these mechanics except if I am not completely off here

p.s. I was rooting for Kal
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
November 19 2008 00:32 GMT
#404
LOOKS LIKE OSL CURSE IS STILL ALIVE LOL
ish0wstopper effect
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 19 2008 00:40 GMT
#405
Guys stork said it himself. He has hard time vs Kal and his style.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 19 2008 00:53 GMT
#406
4 zealot drop nexus pwnage style
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MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 01:21:12
November 19 2008 01:20 GMT
#407
On November 19 2008 08:10 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 01:08 jwd241224 wrote:
Kal's vP winrate is 44%...but he always beats Stork? lol.
The win ratio is deceiving, since his first semi-final against Jangbi hes had like a 60% win ratio or something along those lines.


No.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/84_Kal/games/vs/P

Kal has been consistently mediocre at PvP. Without Stork, Kal's vP record would be a complete joke.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
November 19 2008 04:10 GMT
#408
Yay! STX is my second fav team after CJ, and I enjoy their wins almost as CJ's.

Btw, people need to stop underestimating Kal. He is pretty inconsistent, which makes his % good but not outstanding, even making his PvP look mediocre.

In a way he is like Free; on a bad day, this guy sucks ass, but when he is pretty much unbeatable no matter what you throw at him. He needs to learn to control his in-game nerves when things don't go his way and to focus not only when his royal butt wants to, but in every single game. Then he will go from A-Class to S-Class.

Oh yeah, Modesty's ZvZ, and especially his mutal/scourge control = sick. If this is not a fluke but a demonstration of what he has to offer, Modesty and Calm are more than enough for their zerg lineup. They could even trade July for a terran to backup Hwasin, and get rid of his huge contract in the process.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 19 2008 17:50 GMT
#409
On November 19 2008 09:40 OneOther wrote:
Guys stork said it himself. He has hard time vs Kal and his style.

You need a more alluring icon to make people read your important comments more
I like the snowman though, makes me concentrate
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Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
November 19 2008 18:35 GMT
#410
Stork has a plan when he approaches his games. Kal messes up his plans and Stork falls apart like a house of cards.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
November 19 2008 18:36 GMT
#411
GOD STORK WTFFFF

he is sooo bad vs kal
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-20 03:15:51
November 20 2008 03:14 GMT
#412
On November 19 2008 13:10 RamenStyle wrote:
Yay! STX is my second fav team after CJ, and I enjoy their wins almost as CJ's.

Btw, people need to stop underestimating Kal. He is pretty inconsistent, which makes his % good but not outstanding, even making his PvP look mediocre.

In a way he is like Free; on a bad day, this guy sucks ass, but when he is pretty much unbeatable no matter what you throw at him. He needs to learn to control his in-game nerves when things don't go his way and to focus not only when his royal butt wants to, but in every single game. Then he will go from A-Class to S-Class.

Oh yeah, Modesty's ZvZ, and especially his mutal/scourge control = sick. If this is not a fluke but a demonstration of what he has to offer, Modesty and Calm are more than enough for their zerg lineup. They could even trade July for a terran to backup Hwasin, and get rid of his huge contract in the process.


Ok what you said about July is just plain insulting. Where do you think Modesty learned that sick muta/scourge control? From Calm or from the guy who borderline invented mutamicro and is renowned for best muta control in the world? The guy just won an osl title thats not something you trade away just because hes had an off month. Golden mouse 3 osls thats alot of curse and yeah maby july does not practice so hard for proleague but he JUST won an osl he is still AMAZING and he damn sure is as great of player as ever.

ps- do not site the loss vs Pepe, July massively underestimated pepe and even 12 hatched even tho he scouted a rush he had no respect for his opponent and he made an error in judgment.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
November 20 2008 03:25 GMT
#413
On November 20 2008 12:14 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 13:10 RamenStyle wrote:
Yay! STX is my second fav team after CJ, and I enjoy their wins almost as CJ's.

Btw, people need to stop underestimating Kal. He is pretty inconsistent, which makes his % good but not outstanding, even making his PvP look mediocre.

In a way he is like Free; on a bad day, this guy sucks ass, but when he is pretty much unbeatable no matter what you throw at him. He needs to learn to control his in-game nerves when things don't go his way and to focus not only when his royal butt wants to, but in every single game. Then he will go from A-Class to S-Class.

Oh yeah, Modesty's ZvZ, and especially his mutal/scourge control = sick. If this is not a fluke but a demonstration of what he has to offer, Modesty and Calm are more than enough for their zerg lineup. They could even trade July for a terran to backup Hwasin, and get rid of his huge contract in the process.


Ok what you said about July is just plain insulting. Where do you think Modesty learned that sick muta/scourge control? From Calm or from the guy who borderline invented mutamicro and is renowned for best muta control in the world? The guy just won an osl title thats not something you trade away just because hes had an off month. Golden mouse 3 osls thats alot of curse and yeah maby july does not practice so hard for proleague but he JUST won an osl he is still AMAZING and he damn sure is as great of player as ever.

ps- do not site the loss vs Pepe, July massively underestimated pepe and even 12 hatched even tho he scouted a rush he had no respect for his opponent and he made an error in judgment.


If you say that it was July's fault that he scouted a rush and still 12 hatched, then why can't we cite it. July's incredibly inconsistent, god mode someday, and play sucky other times. Pepe did play impressively that series, displaying great micro. However, July is considered to have only one good MU currently in ZvP. But I agree that they should not trade July away, but chill, it's not like he was openly saying how July sucks.
Jaedong
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8121 Posts
November 20 2008 04:04 GMT
#414
July's ZvZ isn't exactly bad, it's not just A-class any more. He really just needs to work on his ZvT and he will probably be used more by STX (they seem too afraid of being sniped by a terren player).
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-20 05:23:44
November 20 2008 05:20 GMT
#415
On November 20 2008 12:25 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2008 12:14 Kuja900 wrote:
On November 19 2008 13:10 RamenStyle wrote:
Yay! STX is my second fav team after CJ, and I enjoy their wins almost as CJ's.

Btw, people need to stop underestimating Kal. He is pretty inconsistent, which makes his % good but not outstanding, even making his PvP look mediocre.

In a way he is like Free; on a bad day, this guy sucks ass, but when he is pretty much unbeatable no matter what you throw at him. He needs to learn to control his in-game nerves when things don't go his way and to focus not only when his royal butt wants to, but in every single game. Then he will go from A-Class to S-Class.

Oh yeah, Modesty's ZvZ, and especially his mutal/scourge control = sick. If this is not a fluke but a demonstration of what he has to offer, Modesty and Calm are more than enough for their zerg lineup. They could even trade July for a terran to backup Hwasin, and get rid of his huge contract in the process.


Ok what you said about July is just plain insulting. Where do you think Modesty learned that sick muta/scourge control? From Calm or from the guy who borderline invented mutamicro and is renowned for best muta control in the world? The guy just won an osl title thats not something you trade away just because hes had an off month. Golden mouse 3 osls thats alot of curse and yeah maby july does not practice so hard for proleague but he JUST won an osl he is still AMAZING and he damn sure is as great of player as ever.

ps- do not site the loss vs Pepe, July massively underestimated pepe and even 12 hatched even tho he scouted a rush he had no respect for his opponent and he made an error in judgment.


If you say that it was July's fault that he scouted a rush and still 12 hatched, then why can't we cite it. July's incredibly inconsistent, god mode someday, and play sucky other times. Pepe did play impressively that series, displaying great micro. However, July is considered to have only one good MU currently in ZvP. But I agree that they should not trade July away, but chill, it's not like he was openly saying how July sucks.


I was not knocking pepe at all i think he played the series of his life to be honest. July still 12 hatched because of arrogance and a lack of respect for pepe who he flat out embarrassed in the 1st game. He didnt practice as much as he should have for it because he was thinking "pfft pepe" and he paid for it imo. I even think the 12 hatch after rush was to straight up embarrass pepe because no pro would make that mistake without doing it consciously, which is kind of out of character for july usually hes very respectful but there isnt any other explanation, he goofed around. I really want to see july play a late game zvt havent seen one since he beat like sea last year.
OMG you nasty gurl
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14898 Posts
November 20 2008 06:02 GMT
#416
=( stork..
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