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VODs for select games: http://www.wcg.com/6th/tv/tv_main.asp
+ Show Spoiler [Group Stages] +Group A
# ![[image loading]](http://file.worldcybergames.com/6th/statistic/result_w.gif) ![[image loading]](http://file.worldcybergames.com/6th/statistic/result_l.gif) ![[image loading]](http://file.worldcybergames.com/6th/statistic/result_t.gif) 1. 4-0-0 0pts Andrey "RoX.Androide" Ershov -------> Advances2. 3-1-0 0pts Marius "mTwAMD-HoRRoR" Overhageboeck -------> Advances3. 2-2-0 0pts Ivan "LRM)Lamer" Velikov 4. 1-3-0 0pts Thanh "proA.ThuocLao" Ha Le 5. 0-4-0 0pts Stefanos "TagoMago" Gogornas "One should note that Androide was not even supposed to play at this WCG. BRAT_OK and localhost had problems with their visas, preventing them from attending." - GosugamersGroup B
# 1. 3-0-0 0pts Christoph "ToT)Mondragon(" Semke -------> Advances2. 2-1-0 0pts Lyubomir "Masscata" Zanev -------> Advances3. 1-2-0 0pts Matija "MgZ)Ptak" Vragovic 4. 0-3-0 0pts Mauro "chivu" Castaneda "I'm not really sure I'm going to finish top 2 in this group." - MondragonGroup C
# 1. 3-1-0 0pts Valentin "ToT)Ace(" Vaczi -------> Advances2. 3-1-0 0pts Jose "CaStrO" Castro -------> Advances3. 2-2-0 0pts Jamie "ToT)MidiaN(" Hallam 4. 2-2-0 0pts Dmytro "RoX.DIMAGA" Filipchuk 5. 0-4-0 0pts Thiemo "faculty.Jogy" Wiegers "In the deciding game, Peruvian Zerg player CaStrO threw the game away, giving Ace a 3-1 score and thereby topping the group. CaStrO ends on second place with the same score. It is believed that CaStrO dropped the game because he wanted to avoid a Korean player in the playoff - presuming that Stork drops a game in order to avoid Jaedong." - GosugamersGroup D
# 1. 4-0-0 3pts Jaedong "Lecaf_Jaedong" Lee -------> Advances2. 3-1-0 3pts Igor "RoX.Bruce" Utkin -------> Advances3. 2-2-0 3pts Jos "ToT)ret(" de Kroon 4. 1-3-0 3pts Juan S "UsK" Alvarez C 5. 0-4-0 0pts Argentina (1st)Bruse did not originally qualify for the WCG Finals either.Group E
# 1. 4-0-0 0pts Chansu "KTF_Luxury" Park -------> Advances2. 3-1-0 0pts Yin "loveTT" Liu -------> Advances3. 2-2-0 0pts James "JohnRambo" Foo Ming Keet 4. 1-3-0 0pts Sergey "RoX.Pomi" Rodionov 5. 0-4-0 0pts Juan "gK_tOsS" Carlos Mora Group F
# 1. 3-1-0 0pts Tyler "eSTRO_NonY" Wasieleski -------> Advances2. 3-1-0 0pts Lei "ChinaTTTT" Zhang -------> Advances3. 2-2-0 0pts Aaron "CocoA" Deir 4. 2-2-0 0pts Rupert "ETBrooD" Soyka 5. 0-4-0 0pts Juan "RaiDen" Sanclemente Group G
# 1. 3-0-0 0pts Ievgen "MYM.Strelok" Oparyshev -------> Advances2. 2-1-0 0pts Vytautas "MYM.Arew" Graiciunas -------> Advances3. 1-2-0 0pts Carlo "ToT)ClouD(" Giannacco 4. 0-3-0 0pts Miguel "SMall" Serrato Group H
# 1. 4-0-0 0pts Byunggu "Samsung_Stork" Song -------> Advances2. 3-1-0 0pts Xian "Legend" Luo -------> Advances3. 2-2-0 0pts Krzysztof "Draco" Nalepka 4. 1-3-0 0pts Tomas "maix]DK[" Samol 5. 0-4-0 0pts Firdavs "Templar" Gasanov
+ Show Spoiler [Round of 16] + RoX.Androide vs ChinaTTTT Masscata vs KTF_LuxuryKTF_Luxury 2-0 Masscata ToT)Ace( vs LegendLegend 2-0 ToT)Ace RoX.Bruce vs MYM.StrelokMYM.Strelok 2-0 RoX.Bruce ToT)Mondragon( vs loveTTloveTT 2-0 ToT)Mondragon mTwAMD-HoRRoR vs eSTRO_NonYeSTRO_NonY 2-0 mTwAMD-HoRRoR Lecaf_Jaedong vs MYM.ArewLecaf_Jaedong 2-0 MYM.Arew CaStrO vs Samsung_StorkSamsung_Stork 2-0 CaStrO
+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +
Semifinals:
MYM.Strelok vs KTF_Luxury
Luxury 2-0 Strelok
Samsung_Stork vs loveTT
Stork 2-1 loveTT
Finals:
Samsung_Stork vs KTF_Luxury
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Third Place match:
loveTT vs MYM.Strelok
+ Show Spoiler +
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TY.
nice, ret advanced, congrats.
ahh Midian 
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motbob
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On November 06 2008 23:56 araav wrote:TY. nice, ret advanced, congrats. ahh Midian
Midian still has a chance to advance... and we don't yet know if   Ret has advanced or not.
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Thanks ! WGC site was (and still) lagging like hell
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thank you for this, really appreciated.
hope you will keep it up.
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6th November.
1st Round Map: Neo Baekdu Daegan
Group A TagoMago 0 < 1 mTwAMD-HoRRoR
Group A proA.ThuocLao 0 < 1 RoX.Logistic
Group B MgZ)Ptak 0 < 1 ToT)Mondragon(
Group B chivu 0 < 1 Masscata
Group C CaStrO 1 > 0 RoX.DIMAGA
Group C ToT)MidiaN( 1 > 0 faculty.Jogy
Group D ToT)ret( 1 > 0 UsK
Group D Argentina 0 < 1 RoX.Bruce
2nd Round Map: Python
Group A mTwAMD-HoRRoR 0 < 1 RoX.Logistic
Group A proA.ThuocLao 0 < 1 LRM)Lamer
Group B MgZ)Ptak 0 < 1 Masscata
Group B ToT)Mondragon( 1 > 0 chivu
Group C RoX.DIMAGA 1 > 0 faculty.Jogy
Group C ToT)MidiaN( 0 < 1 ToT)Ace(
Group D UsK 0 < 1 RoX.Bruce
Group D Argentina 0 < 1 Lecaf_Jaedong
3rd Round Map: Blue Storm
Group A LRM)Lamer 0 < 1 mTwAMD-HoRRoR
Group A TagoMago 0 < 1 RoX.Logistic
Group B ToT)Mondragon( 1 > 0 Masscata
Group B MgZ)Ptak 1 > 0 chivu
Group C CaStrO 1 > 0 faculty.Jogy
Group C ToT)Ace( 0 < 1 RoX.DIMAGA
Group D ToT)ret( 0 < 1 RoX.Bruce
Group D Lecaf_Jaedong 1 > 0 UsK
4th Round Map: Ride of Valkyries
Group A TagoMago 0 < 1 proA.ThuocLao
Group A LRM)Lamer 0 < 1 RoX.Logistic
Group C CaStrO 1 > 0 ToT)MidiaN(
Group C ToT)Ace( 1 > 0 faculty.Jogy
Group D ToT)ret( 1 > 0 Argentina
Group D Lecaf_Jaedong 1 > 0 RoX.Bruce
5th Round Map: Tau Cross
Group A proA.ThuocLao 0 < 1 mTwAMD-HoRRoR
Group A TagoMago 0 < 1 LRM)Lamer
Group C CaStrO 0 < 1 ToT)Ace(
Group C ToT)MidiaN( 1 > 0 RoX.DIMAGA
Group D ToT)ret( 0 < 1 Lecaf_Jaedong
Group D Argentina 0 < 1 UsK
7th November.
1st Round Map: Neo Baekdu Daegan
Group E loveTT 1 > 0 JohnRambo
Group E RoX.Pomi 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group F ETBrooD 1 >0 eSTRO_NonY
Group F CocoA 0 <1 ChinaTTTT
Group G ToT)ClouD( 0 <1 MYM.Arew
Group G SMall 0 < 1 MYM.Strelok
Group H maix]DK[ 0 < 1 Legend
Group H Templar 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
2nd Round Map: Python
Group E JohnRambo 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group E RoX.Pomi 1 > 0 gK_tOsS
Group F eSTRO_NonY 1> 0 ChinaTTTT
Group F CocoA 1 > 0 RaiDen
Group G ToT)ClouD( 0 < 1 MYM.Strelok
Group G MYM.Arew 1 > 0 SMall
Group H Templar 0 < 1 Draco
Group H Legend 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
3rd Round Map: Blue Storm
Group E loveTT 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group E gK_tOsS 0 < 1 JohnRambo
Group F ETBrooD 0 < 1 ChinaTTTT
Group F RaiDen 0 < 1 eSTRO_NonY
Group G ToT)ClouD( 1 > 0 мSMall
Group G MYM.Arew 0 < 1 MYM.Strelok
Group H maix]DK[ 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
Group H Draco 0 < 1 Legend
4th Round Map: Ride of Valkyries
Group E loveTT 1 > 0 RoX.Pomi
Group E gK_tOsS 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group F ETBrooD 0 >1 CocoA
Group F мRaiDen 0 < 1 ChinaTTTT
Group H Draco 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
Group H maix]DK[ 1 >0 Templar
5th Round Map: Tau Cross
Group E loveTT 1 > 0 gK_ tOsS
Group E RoX.Pomi 0 < 1 JohnRambo
Group F ETBrooD 1 > 0 RaiDen
Group F CocoA 0 < 1 eSTRO_NonY
Group H maix]DK[ 0 < 1 Draco
Group H Templar 0 < 1 Legend
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If Stork wins all games following games need following results.
Jaedong < UsK
UsK > Bruce
This will give UsK 3 wins and 1 loss and with beating Jaedong he would finish first.
If thats not going to happen, Stork has to drop a game.
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Bruce > UsK
Jaedong advances, UsK is out
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grats ret 
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motbob
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CORRECTION: Group A is still up in the air as far as who will advance. Horror has not yet advanced, as I wrote before.
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Horror won Lamer so he will advance if they both will be 2-2
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"1. 3-0-0 0pts [image loading] [image loading] Jose "CaStrO" Castro -------> Advances"
CaStrO is not qualified yet.
Edit:
MidiaN>DIMAGA. So now CaStrO is in for sure .
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MidiaN > DIMAGA acording to Elsi
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Jaedong is 4-0. He won over UsK. This means Stork will have to drop a game.
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niiiiiiiice, mondragon fighting!
i really hope that horror will advance too
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can somebody explain me the group C? It is written Castro advanced, and in the end
"CaStrO" / "ToT)Ace(" vs Group H 2nd Place
so now what?
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wow... group G and H look crazy
can't wait for these results
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Ace > Castro
Castro and Ace advance!
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On November 07 2008 01:01 Geo.Rion wrote:
can somebody explain me the group C? It is written Castro advanced, and in the end
"CaStrO" / "ToT)Ace(" vs Group H 2nd Place
so now what?
When you read that, it wasn't final whether Castro would be 1st or 2nd in his group.
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Bruce > Ret
Bruce advances!
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Bruce > Ret so Ret is out
Pads, where is Elsi?
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erm with the PGR crew i guess
where were you sitting in the bruce vs jd game? i think you were on camera just before the game started
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ah damn, ret and midian out
GO NONY
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On November 07 2008 01:13 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:01 Geo.Rion wrote:
can somebody explain me the group C? It is written Castro advanced, and in the end
"CaStrO" / "ToT)Ace(" vs Group H 2nd Place
so now what? When you read that, it wasn't final whether Castro would be 1st or 2nd in his group.
yeah, thanks
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lol semifinals? is it ro16, quarter, semis?
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motbob
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On November 07 2008 01:19 SayaSP wrote:
lol semifinals? is it ro16, quarter, semis?
LOL oops
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why if mondragon 1st plays vs E group 1st???
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Ace? Is it real? First Hungarian to advance? :D
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oh god mondragon vs luxury
is mondragon can repeat what he did last year it would be fucking legendary
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On November 07 2008 01:29 Pads wrote:
oh god mondragon vs luxury
is mondragon can repeat what he did last year it would be fucking legendary
Last year vs sAviOr bo1
now vs Luxury Best Of 3! Biiiiig difference, GO DISSY!
Also Mondragon won't have to play Luxury until semi finals (if he manages to get that far)
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I cant believe Ace just made it... I'm so happy right now. :D
Too bad Stork will probably drop a game not to face JD too early and this way he faces Ace next round. o,o
Whatever, Ace's ZvP is quite good.  Gooooo Ace FTW! Hungary fighitngggg~~!!!
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On November 07 2008 01:16 Pads wrote:
erm with the PGR crew i guess
where were you sitting in the bruce vs jd game? i think you were on camera just before the game started
I was. I was sitting next to Zatic and the guy with the sign in Korean. How'd you recognise me?
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wowow nice Bruce advancing over Ret !!
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On November 07 2008 01:35 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:16 Pads wrote:
erm with the PGR crew i guess
where were you sitting in the bruce vs jd game? i think you were on camera just before the game started I was. I was sitting next to Zatic and the guy with the sign in Korean. How'd you recognise me?
i have your facebook remember
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Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually
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I really hope the english vods are posted soon.. I remember in the last WCG - we had to wait forever and even then GGL didn't have all of the vods.
Plus since djWHEAT isn't at WCG anymore, I doubt even GGL will have any of the vods..
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castro lost on purpose is the talk?
dunno though
kwark, come and say hi^^
im in pgr4
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Castro on purpose? Why should he? There is stork, Draco, lx and he probably will face stork. So...
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maybe he is counting on Stork to drop a game, and therefore wanted to play the firstplace in that group..
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On November 07 2008 02:17 Chanted wrote:
maybe he is counting on Stork to drop a game, and therefore wanted to play the firstplace in that group..
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Why would he want to play against Draco / Legend?
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On November 07 2008 02:23 True_Spike wrote:
Why would he want to play against Draco / Legend?
becauz zey are polisch krapp.
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ah... Draco is in big trouble :|
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On November 07 2008 02:23 True_Spike wrote:
Why would he want to play against Draco / Legend?
I daresay he has better shot against either of those than vs Stork...lol...
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On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually
I think, he changed it a year or two ago.
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I have a feeling someone in Group F (NonY/TTTT) will purposely drop a game to avoid the lower bracket with Koreans.
EDIT: Oh, they can't meet until the semis.
Well still.
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Argentina 0 < 1 RoX.Bruce
Lol
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On November 07 2008 01:33 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:29 Pads wrote:
oh god mondragon vs luxury
is mondragon can repeat what he did last year it would be fucking legendary Last year vs sAviOr bo1 now vs Luxury Best Of 3! Biiiiig difference, GO DISSY! Also Mondragon won't have to play Luxury until semi finals (if he manages to get that far)
What are you talking about? Mondragon is B1, and he will face E2, probably ChinaTT, not Luxury, he gonna be E1
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On November 07 2008 04:32 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:33 G.s)NarutO wrote:On November 07 2008 01:29 Pads wrote:
oh god mondragon vs luxury
is mondragon can repeat what he did last year it would be fucking legendary Last year vs sAviOr bo1 now vs Luxury Best Of 3! Biiiiig difference, GO DISSY! Also Mondragon won't have to play Luxury until semi finals (if he manages to get that far) What are you talking about? Mondragon is B1, and he will face E2, probably ChinaTT, not Luxury, he gonna be E1
I had messed up the brackets when they wrote that... I had Mondragon playing the group winner.
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On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago.
BTW, do you know why he did? It's not because of Georgia I hope^^
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wow androide 4-0'ing his group? good work dude!
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Tyler "eSTRO_NonY" Wasieleski
why is there no polish flag?
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On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago.
you dont just go and change your last name...
Besides he was still Kukhianidze at the last WCG so youre off.
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On November 07 2008 05:01 isbunk wrote:
Tyler "eSTRO_NonY" Wasieleski
why is there no polish flag?
I was about to make such post, didn't know had polish origin
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oh noes... US and Polish bandwagons united...
Will the world implode?
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his mother is polish but he was born and raised in the usa (i think) so i think that's a preety good reason to have a usa flag
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On November 07 2008 05:01 isbunk wrote:
Tyler "eSTRO_NonY" Wasieleski
why is there no polish flag?
Oh god.
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On November 07 2008 05:14 Pads wrote:
his mother is polish but he was born and raised in the usa (i think) so i think that's a preety good reason to have a usa flag
wouldnt a polish last name technically constitute a polish dad instead?^^
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yeah probably, i jsut remember him saying in his podcast that his mother was english but he never mentioned his father, i guess it's totally plausable that he too is polish
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On November 07 2008 05:12 Sfydjklm wrote:
oh noes... US and Polish bandwagons united...
Will the world implode?
Yea, let's add Poland as 51th state of US
Anyway, can't wait until Stork vs Draco match.(yup i'm Pole, don't ask me :X)
Cheerios
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today's games will hopefully be better than yesterdays
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On November 07 2008 05:07 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago. you dont just go and change your last name... Besides he was still Kukhianidze at the last WCG so youre off.
Androides surname is Ershov now it's hes mothers surname... In fact yes you just go nad change your last name... what's the big deal?
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On November 07 2008 05:56 foldy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 05:07 Sfydjklm wrote:On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago. you dont just go and change your last name... Besides he was still Kukhianidze at the last WCG so youre off. Androides surname is Ershov now it's hes mothers surname... In fact yes you just go nad change your last name... what's the big deal?
source?
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On November 07 2008 05:07 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago. you dont just go and change your last name... Besides he was still Kukhianidze at the last WCG so youre off.
It is not a problem to change your surname. One of my friends changed his surname: he also took the surname of his mother.
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Does anyone know where one can find decent quality VODs? I just watched Baezzi's upload of Jaedong vs Bruse, and it was frustrating 'cause I couldn't read the chat.
In addition, it'd be nice if it were our great english commentators as well.
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way to let the country down jamie wtf
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O_O; Russia and Germany doing well 
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Can we expect any videos or pictures from TL.net staff?
Videointerview with nony,mondragon, jaedong,stork etc?
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On November 07 2008 06:52 Bifur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 05:07 Sfydjklm wrote:On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago. you dont just go and change your last name... Besides he was still Kukhianidze at the last WCG so youre off. It is not a problem to change your surname. One of my friends changed his surname: he also took the surname of his mother.
people dont change their last names without a really good reason yknow. Especially someone whos dad is a fucking general^^
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unless his dad was general in the georgian army! :o OOOH THE MYSTERY.
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wow
jaedong's games were such rape
especially in the finals
even the announcers are like "wow this is sad"
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should nony advance, he will play either horror or androide, and he has good chances of beating them.
nony should make a nice run this wcg
lol @ jaedong vs bruce
so much trash talk
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On November 07 2008 04:41 motbob wrote:So who is ready for a   NonY -  Mondragon quarterfinal match :o
mondi is.
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On November 07 2008 11:56 wAVEland wrote:mondi is.
lol most def.
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Aww Smidiang ~_~
Aww Ret. Ooooo well.
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On November 07 2008 07:33 PH wrote:
Does anyone know where one can find decent quality VODs? I just watched Baezzi's upload of Jaedong vs Bruse, and it was frustrating 'cause I couldn't read the chat.
In addition, it'd be nice if it were our great english commentators as well.
I second this. I don't have the time to stay up (I'm in PST) and I really wanted to watch the games.
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strelok and cloud on the same group..
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Ret is out, castro still in...
Yep, karma's a bitch.
Go castro!
PS. castro arrived late and wasn't allowed to play Ace. That's why he got a loss. Just clearing that up.
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I was the one who 'beat' foru. Lost 1-2.
Androide 2-0'd Silent_Control the same year I did in 2005 Singapore.
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Thats still pretty good taking 1 game from the eventuall champion!
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i hope Stork get's eliminated :D haha
and Draco advances :D
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There is no non korean who has officially beaten foru or xellos in a BO3 series yet. A lot of them were close like sen and storm 1-2 foru
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Stork would throw a game and end up 2nd and luxury end up first. They gonna plan this to avoid each other. 3 koreans will be in top, bottom and center of the brackets.
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Fuck I wanted Dimaga to advance with Castro!
GW to Ace though, I think hes a weaker ZvP/T gamer than those two.
And damn ret, lose to Bruce?
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On November 07 2008 10:11 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 06:52 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 05:07 Sfydjklm wrote:On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago. you dont just go and change your last name... Besides he was still Kukhianidze at the last WCG so youre off. It is not a problem to change your surname. One of my friends changed his surname: he also took the surname of his mother. people dont change their last names without a really good reason yknow. Especially someone whos dad is a fucking general^^
I don't know whether his dad is general or not, and what country he belongs, but nowadays georgian surname is not convenient in Russia.
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On November 07 2008 19:25 Bifur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 10:11 Sfydjklm wrote:On November 07 2008 06:52 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 05:07 Sfydjklm wrote:On November 07 2008 04:00 Bifur wrote:On November 07 2008 01:47 Sfydjklm wrote:
Andoides last name is Kukhianidze actually I think, he changed it a year or two ago. you dont just go and change your last name... Besides he was still Kukhianidze at the last WCG so youre off. It is not a problem to change your surname. One of my friends changed his surname: he also took the surname of his mother. people dont change their last names without a really good reason yknow. Especially someone whos dad is a fucking general^^ I don't know whether his dad is general or not, and what country he belongs, but nowadays georgian surname is not convenient in Russia.
Man that is so crazy. I can't even think of going through something like that.
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ETBrooD- (10%)
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(90%) NonY
From ggbet..
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Cloud (66%)
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(34%) Arew
And right after.... omg
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Oh god ETBrood is so happy he dances around and calls his familiy and stuff
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zatic did you watch the game? what happened?
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CocoA 0 <1 ChinaTTTT
gK_tOsS 0 < 1 JohnRambo
maix]DK[ 1 > 0 Templar
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is nony choking? GET A GRIP MAN!
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RoX.Pomi 1 > 0 gK_tOsS
eSTRO_NonY 1> 0 ChinaTTTT
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go nony, hehe, he's 1-1 right?
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On November 07 2008 20:45 kroko wrote:
ETBrooD- (10%)
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(90%) NonY
From ggbet..
+87 Points sick life. <3
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On November 07 2008 22:21 motbob wrote:
Cloud is OUT OF WCG
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On November 07 2008 22:21 motbob wrote:
Cloud is OUT OF WCG
really? Wow, kinda surprised.
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On November 07 2008 17:41 Guybrush wrote:Fuck I wanted Dimaga to advance with Castro! GW to Ace though, I think hes a weaker ZvP/T gamer than those two. And damn ret, lose to Bruce?
you're wrong, Ace is great
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I'll laugh my ass off if it comes down to a NonY - ChinaTTTT - ETBrood tiebreak for first place LOL
Edit: ofc all of them has to beat Cocoa and Raiden first, but still - It'd be very funny
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On November 07 2008 22:34 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 17:41 Guybrush wrote:Fuck I wanted Dimaga to advance with Castro! GW to Ace though, I think hes a weaker ZvP/T gamer than those two. And damn ret, lose to Bruce? you're wrong, Ace is great
I second that.
IIRC it wasn't Dimaga or Castro who beat JF and Dreiven in the ESL, but Ace.
And hell, even I could take a game from Castro and I'm by no means an accomplished foreign level superstar or something
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
On November 07 2008 22:53 Hydrolisko wrote:
any Legend results?
Lx > Draco
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
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That's what happens when you don't practice.
Not surprised Cloud lost. He was in a group with Strelok and Arew.
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
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Nony > Raiden
So I think Nony is guaranteed a tiebreaker at least, if ETBrooD and ChinaTTTT win the rest of their games. Should advance otherwise.
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On November 07 2008 23:14 Pyrthas wrote:
Nony > Raiden
So I think Nony is guaranteed a tiebreaker at least, if ETBrooD and ChinaTTTT win the rest of their games. Should advance otherwise.
Come on NonY...you can do it.
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omg.... this will be interesting :D
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Stork or Jaedong one of them is going to win.... actually i would be so happy if a foreigner wins this!
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On November 07 2008 23:26 SassO wrote:
Stork or Jaedong one of them is going to win.... actually i would be so happy if a foreigner wins this!
Hahahaha...keep dreaming.
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17030 Posts
So wait, what happened to LS and that lameass Canadian hacker?
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hey excume me people is Androide playing? i thought that he was eliminated in Russia ...
gg =)
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On November 07 2008 23:29 Centric wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 23:26 SassO wrote:
Stork or Jaedong one of them is going to win.... actually i would be so happy if a foreigner wins this! Hahahaha...keep dreaming.
Its free, so its ok.
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On November 07 2008 23:49 CreationZealot wrote:
hey excume me people is Androide playing? i thought that he was eliminated in Russia ...
gg =)
He was but since #2 and #3 from WCG Russia (Brat_OK & localhost) had visa issues the following two players after them qualified and were sent instead. Pomi still went though, but now along with Androide and Bruce.
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On November 07 2008 23:49 CreationZealot wrote:
hey excume me people is Androide playing? i thought that he was eliminated in Russia ...
gg =)
brat_ok and another guy had visa problems
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thanks people and good for Russia, he is 1st in group A isnt he?
he has a lot of experience in this kind of tournaments =)
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-_- so no drop for stork this time. He gonna meet JD at r08
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so Stork 1st?
OMG but i cant believe he didnt drop a game to avoid jaedong
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 00:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Stork > LX
WHAT
looks like we're headed for a Jaedong-Stork Ro8 match.
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On November 08 2008 00:19 motbob wrote:WHAT looks like we're headed for a Jaedong-Stork Ro8 match.
He will just drop the game to Templar-_-
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On November 08 2008 00:19 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:19 motbob wrote:On November 08 2008 00:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Stork > LX WHAT looks like we're headed for a Jaedong-Stork Ro8 match. He will just drop the game to Templar-_-
no use though. If DK and LX win the remaining games, they will tie stork 3-1. Stork will still emerge as 1st seed.
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On November 08 2008 00:19 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:19 motbob wrote:On November 08 2008 00:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Stork > LX WHAT looks like we're headed for a Jaedong-Stork Ro8 match. He will just drop the game to Templar-_-
But then even if LX beats Templar, Stork should be 1 because he beat LX. Unless they're doing some really wacky tiebreaking.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 00:19 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:19 motbob wrote:On November 08 2008 00:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Stork > LX WHAT looks like we're headed for a Jaedong-Stork Ro8 match. He will just drop the game to Templar-_-
It doesn't work that way, Stork will still hold the tie-breaker. He needed to drop a game to the person that was going to win the group.
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maybe he is confident of beating jaedong since he is invincible before the final
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
P.S. you shouldn't have dropped that game Castro :D
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
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lol maybe the 3 koreans agreed to share the total prize they get and to keep their integrity intact. Last year, there are complaints about unsportmanship.
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On November 08 2008 00:27 Baddieko wrote:
lol maybe the 3 koreans agreed to share the total prize they get and to keep their integrity intact. Last year, there are complaints about unsportmanship.
Yeah, but that stupid tiebreaker only kept going because two people were dropping games (ra was the other, iirc). And, of course, Stork was finally the one that ended it. Not saying he was innocent; just saying it's unfair to focus only on the Koreans.
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Oh you guys are right.
If templar doesn't beat Draco and LX, Stork is going to be #1
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On November 08 2008 00:30 Pyrthas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:27 Baddieko wrote:
lol maybe the 3 koreans agreed to share the total prize they get and to keep their integrity intact. Last year, there are complaints about unsportmanship. Yeah, but that stupid tiebreaker only kept going because two people were dropping games (ra was the other, iirc). And, of course, Stork was finally the one that ended it. Not saying he was innocent; just saying it's unfair to focus only on the Koreans.
Yeah. Since they live in the same hotel room and came as a team. Its possible. Luxury could take this. The player that is least hyped. lol
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haha, Castro just got owned !
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Castro would have made the worst decision then. Since for amateurs they will like to go as far as possible for monetary gains.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 00:33 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:30 Pyrthas wrote:On November 08 2008 00:27 Baddieko wrote:
lol maybe the 3 koreans agreed to share the total prize they get and to keep their integrity intact. Last year, there are complaints about unsportmanship. Yeah, but that stupid tiebreaker only kept going because two people were dropping games (ra was the other, iirc). And, of course, Stork was finally the one that ended it. Not saying he was innocent; just saying it's unfair to focus only on the Koreans. Yeah. Since they live in the same hotel room and came as a team. Its possible. Luxury could take this. The player that is least hyped. lol
Luxury to win in a ZvZ final against JD?
...no
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
Luxury > GKToss
Legend > maix
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iloveyoukh + nony advance to next round
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On November 08 2008 00:36 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iloveyoukh + nony advance to next round
What happened to guarantee these? (Not challenging, just want more results!)
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On November 08 2008 00:38 Pyrthas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:36 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iloveyoukh + nony advance to next round What happened to guarantee these? (Not challenging, just want more results!)
I dont know, German Admin being there live said that.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 00:38 Pyrthas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:36 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iloveyoukh + nony advance to next round What happened to guarantee these? (Not challenging, just want more results!)
ETbrood lost, long story short.
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On November 08 2008 00:41 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:38 Pyrthas wrote:On November 08 2008 00:36 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iloveyoukh + nony advance to next round What happened to guarantee these? (Not challenging, just want more results!) ETbrood lost, long story short.
To who? Cocoa or to Raiden?
Edit: oh it's up on GG.net, he lost to CocoA. Hehe
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
doesn't look like draco will advance =(
this blows. bottom half has all of my favorite players in it. its matchups will be interesting though - probably the winner of Mondragon v NonY vs the winner of Stork and Jaedong
pretty much the top foreign PvZ and the top korean PvZ? winners to duke it out for the right to play luxury?
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Stork 4-0
and Lx will beat templar to get 3-1, templar is weakest in the group.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Yes, Draco has been eliminated.
+ Show Spoiler +Don't worry, the Poles can still root for Mr. Wasieleski
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A German admin just told me that Stork won over templar and not over LX. Please fix it.
It seems like Stork vs LX is deciding now.. (LOL @ Coverage fail on mainpage of broodwar.de)
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so wait, it's guarenteed a foreigner in the top 3?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 00:54 G.s)NarutO wrote:
A German admin just told me that Stork won over templar and not over LX. Please fix it.
It seems like Stork vs LX is deciding now.. (LOL @ Coverage fail on mainpage of broodwar.de)
There are a LOT of sources that say that Stork has gone 4-0 in his group. I'm not changing anything until I get another confirmation. No offense.
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On November 08 2008 00:58 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:54 G.s)NarutO wrote:
A German admin just told me that Stork won over templar and not over LX. Please fix it.
It seems like Stork vs LX is deciding now.. (LOL @ Coverage fail on mainpage of broodwar.de) There are a LOT of sources that say that Stork has gone 4-0 in his group. I'm not changing anything until I get another confirmation. No offense.
Yeah, i strongly think he would drop against Lx. Its the case of going further and maximising prize money for korean team.
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On November 08 2008 01:00 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 00:58 motbob wrote:On November 08 2008 00:54 G.s)NarutO wrote:
A German admin just told me that Stork won over templar and not over LX. Please fix it.
It seems like Stork vs LX is deciding now.. (LOL @ Coverage fail on mainpage of broodwar.de) There are a LOT of sources that say that Stork has gone 4-0 in his group. I'm not changing anything until I get another confirmation. No offense. Yeah, i strongly think he would drop against Lx. Its the case of going further and maximising prize money for korean team.
If he doesn't drop a game, Koreans cannot finish #1 #2 #3.. This would mean less money.
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u can be sure they will share the price pool and not treat it like individual league. some of the $ goes to korea progaming and broadcasting team.
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castro was like glock but he will be punished for his act...
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United States10328 Posts
LOL CASTRO GOT OWNED... don't try to be tricky by dropping games next time ;o
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Naruto, I don't know where you got your information, but Stork definitely went 4-0.
EDIT: Here's what we've got:
China WCG says Draco went 4-0
so does GG
so does broodwar.de?
But we have a man on the ground saying that he has not. So I'll change the OP and hope that your info is good.
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I got a confirmation again.
Stork > Templar
but Stork vs LX has to be played.
Oh fuck it nevermind bleh..
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the informations given are misleading due to poor coverage.
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On November 08 2008 01:09 motbob wrote:
Naruto, I don't know where you got your information, but Stork definitely went 4-0.
EDIT: Here's what we've got:
China WCG says Draco went 4-0
so does GG
so does broodwar.de?
But we have a man on the ground saying that he has not. So I'll change the OP and hope that your info is good.
I relied on the Coverage of the person standing LIVE at the players area, but he failed me.
Stork went 4-0, not my fault-_- I was just trying to help
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Oh well, it would really be better if they had great streams..
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 01:13 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 01:09 motbob wrote:
Naruto, I don't know where you got your information, but Stork definitely went 4-0.
EDIT: Here's what we've got:
China WCG says Draco went 4-0
so does GG
so does broodwar.de?
But we have a man on the ground saying that he has not. So I'll change the OP and hope that your info is good. I relied on the Coverage of the person standing LIVE at the players area, but he failed me. Stork went 4-0, not my fault-_- I was just trying to help
LOL it's OK
OP back to normal.
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Minor note: motbob, you only have three of CocoA's four games recorded. (And since he beat ETBrooD, he should be third in the group, right?)
Thanks for keeping the results up to date!
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
By the way, the Round of 16 is set! And things couldn't look better for foreigners.
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
Final results of today games:
1st Round Map: Neo Baekdu Daegan
Group E loveTT 1 > 0 JohnRambo
Group E RoX.Pomi 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group F ETBrooD 1 >0 eSTRO_NonY
Group F CocoA 0 <1 ChinaTTTT
Group G ToT)ClouD( 0 <1 MYM.Arew
Group G SMall 0 < 1 MYM.Strelok
Group H maix]DK[ 0 < 1 Legend
Group H Templar 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
2nd Round Map: Python
Group E JohnRambo 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group E RoX.Pomi 1 > 0 gK_tOsS
Group F eSTRO_NonY 1> 0 ChinaTTTT
Group F CocoA 1 > 0 RaiDen
Group G ToT)ClouD( 0 < 1 MYM.Strelok
Group G MYM.Arew 1 > 0 SMall
Group H Templar 0 < 1 Draco
Group H Legend 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
3rd Round Map: Blue Storm
Group E loveTT 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group E gK_tOsS 0 < 1 JohnRambo
Group F ETBrooD 0 < 1 ChinaTTTT
Group F RaiDen 0 < 1 eSTRO_NonY
Group G ToT)ClouD( 1 > 0 мSMall
Group G MYM.Arew 0 < 1 MYM.Strelok
Group H maix]DK[ 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
Group H Draco 0 < 1 Legend
4th Round Map: Ride of Valkyries
Group E loveTT 1 > 0 RoX.Pomi
Group E gK_tOsS 0 < 1 KTF_Luxury
Group F ETBrooD 0 >1 CocoA
Group F мRaiDen 0 < 1 ChinaTTTT
Group H Draco 0 < 1 Samsung_Stork
Group H maix]DK[ 1 >0 Templar
5th Round Map: Tau Cross
Group E loveTT 1 > 0 gK_ tOsS
Group E RoX.Pomi 0 < 1 JohnRambo
Group F ETBrooD 1 > 0 RaiDen
Group F CocoA 0 < 1 eSTRO_NonY
Group H maix]DK[ 0 < 1 Draco
Group H Templar 0 < 1 Legend
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On November 08 2008 01:16 The.Crow wrote:Just did a videointerview with NonY, 10minutes one http://www.mymym.com/en/coverage/536/45.htmlHe seemed pretty tired after his matches and sooo focused on the tournament. Hope you like it!
Haha, the dangers of poor obs placement. Glad to hear he's pretty comfortable with his play, though. That's encouraging.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 01:15 Pyrthas wrote:
Minor note: motbob, you only have three of CocoA's four games recorded. (And since he beat ETBrooD, he should be third in the group, right?)
Thanks for keeping the results up to date!
Thanks for pointing that out! I wouldn't have caught it otherwise. Gosugamers has Cocoa/Chronic playing 5 games instead of the correct number, 4, which was the source of the confusion, I think.
By the way, if anyone has the winner of Lamer vs Tagomago, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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On November 08 2008 01:34 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 01:15 Pyrthas wrote:
Minor note: motbob, you only have three of CocoA's four games recorded. (And since he beat ETBrooD, he should be third in the group, right?)
Thanks for keeping the results up to date! Thanks for pointing that out! I wouldn't have caught it otherwise. Gosugamers has Cocoa/Chronic playing 5 games instead of the correct number, 4, which was the source of the confusion, I think. By the way, if anyone has the winner of Lamer vs Tagomago, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
Lamer won
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so much weird results in this WCG it scares me
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Zurich15358 Posts
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
The 3rd place price in competitive virtual pool, a brand new Samsung MP3 player, goes toooooooo
vgl-Rage!
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On November 08 2008 01:16 The.Crow wrote:Just did a videointerview with NonY, 10minutes one http://www.mymym.com/en/coverage/536/45.htmlHe seemed pretty tired after his matches and sooo focused on the tournament. Hope you like it!
thanks, this interview is awesome, the best one i watched with Nony so far
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
nony losing series 1 with etbrood then coming back to make it out of the group is fukcing awesome
tyler has serious evolved.. his nerves are prolevel now imo.
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On November 08 2008 02:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nony losing series 1 with etbrood then coming back to make it out of the group is fukcing awesome
tyler has serious evolved.. his nerves are prolevel now imo.
I'd wait until he gets any sort of stage match and see how he does there before calling his nerves prolevel, but yea GJ of him to get out of the group.
GO NONY!
Edit: Is the Ro16 BO3 or just 1 game?
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NM, if the above is true...
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'Stork successfully dropped a game'
lol
also btw seems like asian ppl wll dominate WCG this year.. 3 from china + 3 korea..
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in WCG's website, in details about Lx vs Stork it says : Lx (W) - Stork (L)
Lx won that game :O
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I don't really trust WCG to be right about anything
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
According to the coverage on broodwar.de both Stork and Legend didn't want to win and at one point Legend simply surrendered with no apparent reason, lol
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Zurich15358 Posts
It is wrong, I just watched the replay. Stork won. I just told them they are fixing it.
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damn poor cloud, tough group -_-;
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R16 predictions!
RoX.Androide > ChinaTTTT
Masscata < KTF_Luxury
ToT)Ace( < Legend
RoX.Bruce < MYM.Strelok
ToT)Mondragon( > loveTT
mTwAMD-HoRRoR < eSTRO_NonY
Lecaf_Jaedong > MYM.Arew
CaStrO < Samsung_Stork
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On November 08 2008 02:53 cujo2k wrote:
damn poor cloud, tough group -_-;
yea... is means cloud's going to retire right?
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everyone says their gonna "retire" that means their just gonna smurf for a few months and pretend their not playing
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i think castro can take stork "lol" :D
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On November 08 2008 03:47 SassO wrote:
i think castro can take stork "lol" :D
CastrO has the power of the flute band behind him!
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
I'll bet Castro planned it all like this so that he could unveil the "CASTRO BUILD" and shock the world by 2-0ing Stork.
What is the Castro build? Why, mass ling/queen, of course!
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damnit... i knew draco wouldnt advance but i was hoping i was wrong
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On November 08 2008 04:06 likeaboss wrote:damnit... i knew draco wouldnt advance but i was hoping i was wrong
It actually surprised me somewhat. I wished he had too, but if he didn't play well enough to do it, he shouldn't advance. It's only worthwhile if he's playing as hard as he can.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
The WCG official website is wrong. Ask zatic for confirmation. Wait, don't ask him, just look up this thread, on page 11.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
From gosugamers:
"One noteable game was the one between Legend and Stork. Neither player wished to win in the game, as the seeding for the loser would more advantageous. In this fight, Legend came out on top. Stork could only watch helplessly as his units proceeded to roll Legend and claiming the victory."
Hahahaha. I can't wait to see that replay.
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so Luxury is really happy hehehe
Jaedong vs Stork (RO8) who win that game will be the 2008 WCG Champion
2nd Luxury
3th Lx
gg all
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How does the map selection work?
I think if Stork gets Python, RoV, AND Peaks, he might have a chance doing some unorthodox stuff, maybe proxy gates.
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wow, i'm surprised Pomi went 1-3...JohnRambo is beastly on lans!
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imo JhonRambo plays funny and he has a lot of experience in wcg
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here u go guys for prediction purposes.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
wow, i'm pissed that Bruce advanced instead of ret.
edit: my predictions...
+ Show Spoiler +Androide 0-2 ChinaTTTT
Luxury 2-0 Masscata
Ace 1-2 Legend
Strelok 2-0 Bruce
Mondragon 2-0 love
Nony 2-1 Horror
Jaedong 2-0 Arew
Stork 2-0 Castro
ChinaTTTT 0-2 Luxury
Legend 2-1 Strelok
Mondragon 1-2 Nony
Jaedong 2-1 Stork
Luxury 2-0 Legend
Nony 0-2 JaeDong
Nony 2-1 Legend
Luxury 0-2 JaeDong
Lee Jae Dong hwaiting!
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interesting, alll 3 koreans advancing in 1st place, all 3 chinese advancing in second.
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1st place finishers can thumbs down (veto) 1 map from pool.
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the tl.net calander says that the Round of 16 is on Monday.? I thought they where going to play r16 tomorrow/today(Saturday) ?
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Let's do it Masscata, 2-0 that newb!
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
On November 08 2008 06:05 SayTT wrote:
the tl.net calander says that the Round of 16 is on Monday.? I thought they where going to play r16 tomorrow/today(Saturday) ?
According to fomos there should be WCG tomorrow morning. (EST)
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Yeah, the bracket says it's tomorrow too. 12 PM - GMT or CET? Also does anyone know which games will be broadcasted?
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
WCG2008
경기시간-20:00
-WCG2008 독일-
*시간-한국시간
스타크래프트 16강(20:00)
16강1조 - A조(1위) vs F조(2위)
16강2조 - E조(1위) vs B조(2위)
16강3조 - C조(1위) vs H조(2위)
16강4조 - G조(1위) vs D조(2위)
16강5조 - B조(1위) vs E조(2위)
16강6조 - F조(1위) vs A조(2위)
16강7조 - D조(1위) vs G조(2위)
16강8조 - H조(1위) vs C조(2위)
◆스타크래프트 8강(22:30)
8강1조 - 16강 1조 vs 16강 2조
8강2조 - 16강 3조 vs 16강 4조
8강3조 - 16강 5조 vs 16강 6조
8강4조 - 16강 7조 vs 16강 8조
◆스타크래프트 4강(24:00)
8강1조 vs 8강2조
8강3조 vs 8강4조
From fomos
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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games start in; 13 hours, 34 minutes
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United States10774 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Anyway, why would you go to Fomos when the WCG official site has the times up? Simply go here and you'll see that the games are today, 21:00, Korean time / tomorrow, ~8:00AM, Eastern Standard Time.
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
On November 08 2008 06:35 motbob wrote:Anyway, why would you go to Fomos when the WCG official site has the times up? Simply go here and you'll see that the games are today, 21:00, Korean time / tomorrow, ~8:00AM, Eastern Standard Time.
WCG is turtling for me =p Besides that I trust fomos just as much. Thanks for the info!
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United States12607 Posts
NonY is looking solid: play through Horror and Mondi = semifinal spot against winner of Jaedong-Stork. Hopefully Tyler can give us some great games against the Koreans (assuming he can beat Horror and Mondi, which I think is likely but will be very tough)!
I want to see the cheese he mentioned during the TL podcast.
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So does this mean that Korea can no longer take Gold, Silver, and Bronze?
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Mondragon's zvp is one of the best foreigner matchups of all-time at WCG. I mean, he's 3-0'd Zeus, 1-2'd Reach and had a pretty damn good series again Nal fucking Ra. It's one of those matchups that you just don't expect to lose against a foreigner, and often good enough to give the koreans a run for their money. Historically, some other matchups I'd consider around the same level (at their primes obv) would be Testie's PvT, Draco's PvT, Elky's TvZ.
I know Elky did lose to Blackman, which shows that the "invincible" aura can be defeated. But until it happens, I don't think you can in good conscience predict that it will fall before it actually happens.
That said, if Nony wins it would, imo, be a huge statement and allow him to absolutely hit the ground running when he gets to Korea.
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damn
I sooo wanted to see Mondi x Stork and Nony x Jaedong
only 1 match is possible now T_T
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 08 2008 07:17 radar14 wrote:
Mondragon's zvp is one of the best foreigner matchups of all-time at WCG. I mean, he's 3-0'd Zeus, 1-2'd Reach and had a pretty damn good series again Nal fucking Ra. It's one of those matchups that you just don't expect to lose against a foreigner, and often good enough to give the koreans a run for their money. Historically, some other matchups I'd consider around the same level (at their primes obv) would be Testie's PvT, Draco's PvT, Elky's TvZ.
I know Elky did lose to Blackman, which shows that the "invincible" aura can be defeated. But until it happens, I don't think you can in good conscience predict that it will fall before it actually happens.
That said, if Nony wins it would, imo, be a huge statement and allow him to absolutely hit the ground running when he gets to Korea.
At the same time, I think the cadre of US zergs would agree that PvZ is NonY's best matchup. I'm looking forward to a good series.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
nony has been training to be a professional.. his PvZ is top outside of korea imo. Mondragon had and maybe still has the top ZvP outside of korea but he hasn't beenplaying as actively..I favor nony.
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United States1259 Posts
whoa did castro just completely screw himself?
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On November 08 2008 07:17 radar14 wrote:
Mondragon's zvp is one of the best foreigner matchups of all-time at WCG. I mean, he's 3-0'd Zeus, 1-2'd Reach and had a pretty damn good series again Nal fucking Ra. It's one of those matchups that you just don't expect to lose against a foreigner, and often good enough to give the koreans a run for their money. Historically, some other matchups I'd consider around the same level (at their primes obv) would be Testie's PvT, Draco's PvT, Elky's TvZ.
I know Elky did lose to Blackman, which shows that the "invincible" aura can be defeated. But until it happens, I don't think you can in good conscience predict that it will fall before it actually happens.
That said, if Nony wins it would, imo, be a huge statement and allow him to absolutely hit the ground running when he gets to Korea.
Yea the best zvp
but what happened in the game vs stork in the last wcg?
he survived for like 5 or 6 minutes?
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I don't dispute that Nony's PvZ is his best matchup. I might even give you that his PvZ might be the best outside Korea (JF, Drieven and others might have a legitimate beef with that). And I definitely expect (and hope for) a good series. I just don't think there's any good evidence other than the consensus of "American zergs" (who are not insincere in talking him up imo, but you're just naturally going to feel confident in the good players you see regularly).
I guess the fact that Mondi isn't playing as much should favor Nony but that has also been claimed in years past, and I don't recall his results suffering much.
I think I just try to temper my expectations of players who are active in the TL community in general, because obviously they have more friends here who support them. I think I recall Eriador calling Rekrul's PvT like top 5 in the world or something. I don't think he was trying to mislead us, as he strikes me as a decent guy, but when Rekrul went to Korea he was just getting raped left and right, even in his best matchup.
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On November 08 2008 09:13 AstraBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 07:17 radar14 wrote:
Mondragon's zvp is one of the best foreigner matchups of all-time at WCG. I mean, he's 3-0'd Zeus, 1-2'd Reach and had a pretty damn good series again Nal fucking Ra. It's one of those matchups that you just don't expect to lose against a foreigner, and often good enough to give the koreans a run for their money. Historically, some other matchups I'd consider around the same level (at their primes obv) would be Testie's PvT, Draco's PvT, Elky's TvZ.
I know Elky did lose to Blackman, which shows that the "invincible" aura can be defeated. But until it happens, I don't think you can in good conscience predict that it will fall before it actually happens.
That said, if Nony wins it would, imo, be a huge statement and allow him to absolutely hit the ground running when he gets to Korea.
Yea the best zvp but what happened in the game vs stork in the last wcg? he survived for like 5 or 6 minutes?
yeah well
go up against enough S-class progamers and you're probably going to look like a scrub at some point
mondragon still has a far longer history of winning big zvp matches on AND offline than nony has of winning pvz's
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cant believe ret lost..
and what happened to cloud..
also feel so bad for draco.. he deserves to be in round of 16..
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Androide said in the interview that because he was a last minute substitute he didn't practice much for the event. Only (attention!) 180 (one-hundred-eighty) games in 4 (four) days.
I mean - REALLY? It would take me a month to play this amount of games. SICK.
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On November 08 2008 09:37 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Androide said in the interview that because he was a last minute substitute he didn't practice much for the event. Only (attention!) 180 (one-hundred-eighty) games in 4 (four) days.
I mean - REALLY? It would take me a month to play this amount of games. SICK.
one game = approximately 15 minutes
180 games = 45 hours
Hence, he was training 11 hours every day.
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LOL good job castro nice "stork dodge"
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In fairness to castro, it was going to be tough in first or second. Either way, you're up against Stork/Lx/Draco.
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that being said, he screwed up midian/dimaga for no reason then?
very rude of him.
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i was watching stork today playing pvz, and as much as i like him jaedong will rape him. mix it with jaedong's incredible zvz (prolly against lux) and you know the wcg gold medalist.
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luxury's zvz is considered the best in korea FYI above Jaedong
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androide the wcg ninja !1!!
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Surprisingly few mirrors for the Ro16. Should be exciting to watch!
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Yeah, too bad Androide has a tough road ahead of him, first ChinaTTT, and if he makes it pass him, it'll be Luxury.
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On November 08 2008 09:13 AstraBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 07:17 radar14 wrote:
Mondragon's zvp is one of the best foreigner matchups of all-time at WCG. I mean, he's 3-0'd Zeus, 1-2'd Reach and had a pretty damn good series again Nal fucking Ra. It's one of those matchups that you just don't expect to lose against a foreigner, and often good enough to give the koreans a run for their money. Historically, some other matchups I'd consider around the same level (at their primes obv) would be Testie's PvT, Draco's PvT, Elky's TvZ.
I know Elky did lose to Blackman, which shows that the "invincible" aura can be defeated. But until it happens, I don't think you can in good conscience predict that it will fall before it actually happens.
That said, if Nony wins it would, imo, be a huge statement and allow him to absolutely hit the ground running when he gets to Korea.
Yea the best zvp but what happened in the game vs stork in the last wcg? he survived for like 5 or 6 minutes?
what's your point? everyone loses to cheesy shit at some point?
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On November 08 2008 10:39 zuqbu wrote:
i was watching stork today playing pvz, and as much as i like him jaedong will rape him. mix it with jaedong's incredible zvz (prolly against lux) and you know the wcg gold medalist.
I was reading Zatic's live report on that game. It was clear that Stork tried to throw the game and simply failed. Stork's PvZ is his worst matchup, but he still owns 2nd tier PROGAMING zergs. He's not so bad as to have trouble against some random noname foreigner.
Luxury's ZvZ is at least on par with Jaedong's. The reason he can't win starleagues is he can't play vP. Hence he's considered a lesser player. But Luxury's amazing vZ and vT.
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On November 08 2008 10:39 zuqbu wrote:
i was watching stork today playing pvz, and as much as i like him jaedong will rape him. mix it with jaedong's incredible zvz (prolly against lux) and you know the wcg gold medalist.
I totally agree. Jaedong seems to be really strong against zerg, especially in a bo3 or bo5. I'm pretty sure he'll win the whole thing.
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On November 08 2008 11:04 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 10:39 zuqbu wrote:
i was watching stork today playing pvz, and as much as i like him jaedong will rape him. mix it with jaedong's incredible zvz (prolly against lux) and you know the wcg gold medalist. I was reading Zatic's live report on that game. It was clear that Stork tried to throw the game and simply failed. Stork's PvZ is his worst matchup, but he still owns 2nd tier PROGAMING zergs. He's not so bad as to have trouble against some random noname foreigner. Luxury's ZvZ is at least on par with Jaedong's. The reason he can't win starleagues is he can't play vP. Hence he's considered a lesser player. But Luxury's amazing vZ and vT.
no, stork tried to drop a game against a chinese toss. the game i was talking about was his second group match. and jaedong is simply amazing zvz, he is the one guy who made everyone think this matchup isn't luck at all.
don't take it personal, lux is a great guy, but he won't beat jaedong in a best of 3.
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Luxury lost his two last best of 3 matches against zerg - both versus Jeadong (WCG Korea and MSL S4). He'll lose the next one, too.
Edit: ok, he won against July...
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On November 08 2008 09:15 radar14 wrote:
I don't dispute that Nony's PvZ is his best matchup. I might even give you that his PvZ might be the best outside Korea (JF, Drieven and others might have a legitimate beef with that). And I definitely expect (and hope for) a good series. I just don't think there's any good evidence other than the consensus of "American zergs" (who are not insincere in talking him up imo, but you're just naturally going to feel confident in the good players you see regularly).
I guess the fact that Mondi isn't playing as much should favor Nony but that has also been claimed in years past, and I don't recall his results suffering much.
I think I just try to temper my expectations of players who are active in the TL community in general, because obviously they have more friends here who support them. I think I recall Eriador calling Rekrul's PvT like top 5 in the world or something. I don't think he was trying to mislead us, as he strikes me as a decent guy, but when Rekrul went to Korea he was just getting raped left and right, even in his best matchup.
ya all those newbies who actually you know... play with the players in practice games when theyre at their best... ya they dont know shit.
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On November 08 2008 11:39 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 09:15 radar14 wrote:
I don't dispute that Nony's PvZ is his best matchup. I might even give you that his PvZ might be the best outside Korea (JF, Drieven and others might have a legitimate beef with that). And I definitely expect (and hope for) a good series. I just don't think there's any good evidence other than the consensus of "American zergs" (who are not insincere in talking him up imo, but you're just naturally going to feel confident in the good players you see regularly).
I guess the fact that Mondi isn't playing as much should favor Nony but that has also been claimed in years past, and I don't recall his results suffering much.
I think I just try to temper my expectations of players who are active in the TL community in general, because obviously they have more friends here who support them. I think I recall Eriador calling Rekrul's PvT like top 5 in the world or something. I don't think he was trying to mislead us, as he strikes me as a decent guy, but when Rekrul went to Korea he was just getting raped left and right, even in his best matchup. ya all those newbies who actually you know... play with the players in practice games when theyre at their best... ya they dont know shit.
I'm not saying they don't know anything...I'm just saying it's natural to be biased towards your friends. And the continual self-overrating and underperformance of the US at WCG doesn't exactly help
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Wow, didn't realize that Daniel Lee was with Tasteless commentary, the only thing that doesn't suck at WCG.
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Any leaked replays!?!?!?! (or vods w/ tasteless and daniel lee)
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Wow can't believe Nony dropped a game NOT to chinattt :D
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On November 08 2008 10:31 GTR-2-Go wrote:
that being said, he screwed up midian/dimaga for no reason then?
very rude of him.
True! That is shitty.
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Man, Cmon LX!
You are still my favorite foreigner and definately one of the best.
I believe!
And Nony, obv I want you to do well too. ~_~ But not over my LX baby.
If anyone beats a Korean, I hope it's LX in resounding fashion. Maybe he pounds on Jaedong.
I hope so ~_~ But so so so unlikely.
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Androide fighting! Believe in metal!
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Aside from Koreans, GO NONYYYYYYY! Pride of TeamLiquid?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Wow, good morning, looks like I missed some action.
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On November 08 2008 22:06 motbob wrote:
Wow, good morning, looks like I missed some action.
I hate it when my g/f says that... :p
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On November 08 2008 22:06 motbob wrote:
Wow, good morning, looks like I missed some action.
I think that if you put in the spoilers the results as well it will be nicer, I mean something like ChinaTTT- Mondragon 2:0
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On November 08 2008 10:43 Ash wrote:
luxury's zvz is considered the best in korea FYI above Jaedong
whats this supposed to mean?
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It's really fucking good and no zerg besides 2 other zergs in the world can ever ever EVER EVER EVER beat him. Fact. Truth. Word.
Niggaaa
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On November 08 2008 22:25 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 10:43 Ash wrote:
luxury's zvz is considered the best in korea. FYI, above Jaedong whats this supposed to mean?
clear now?
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LOL@Stork, looks like he'll do a Boxer.
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On November 08 2008 23:09 Guybrush wrote:
LOL@Stork, looks like he'll do a Boxer.
Just staying loyal to his origins - being the second Korean to win two WCGs (in a row)
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United States43362 Posts
Nony and Lx both lost 2-1 as far as I know.
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NOOO :O OMFG how the heck did Jaedong managed to loose 1-2 against Stork?!? God Fucking Damnit!!
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when will semis be played?
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Semifinals in 40 minutes, any streams?
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On November 08 2008 22:29 Ash wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2008 22:25 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 08 2008 10:43 Ash wrote:
luxury's zvz is considered the best in korea. FYI, above Jaedong whats this supposed to mean? clear now?
No
Jaedong 42-12 77.78% win
Luxury 38-19 66.68% win
Jaedong vs Luxury 5-2
Jaedong is concidered the best zvz in korea, above luxury.
Now its clear.
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noticed how group c is all z...
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On November 08 2008 23:50 SayTT wrote:
Semifinals in 40 minutes, any streams?
u sure?
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wtf is the point of doing all of hte spoilers if you're going to have the semifinal games listed in the OP
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Nony
Edit: The spoilers, I'm guessing, are to keep it from getting super long. When we were in the group stages, the results weren't spoilered. Same principle, I assume.
Think of it like a news site. The headlines weren't "Election Day! [Click to show electoral map development through the night]"
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
Luxury 2:0 Strelok
Stork 2:1 loveTT
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damn jaedong is getting knocked out of tournaments left and right
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So much for a foreigner winning WCG this year
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Getting knocked out of a tournament by Stork isn't particularly disgraceful, even if you're Jaedong.
Edit: And grats to Strelok. (Since it hasn't been updated yet, Strelok 2-0 LoveTT.)
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Too bad for Nony. I would've loved to see his PvP against Stork. But LoveTT's PvP today has been ridiculous.
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Oh wow thanks for the videos especially Stork vs Jaedong. How'd you manage to get the videos?
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So LoveTT is the only one to take a game from a korean this year?
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The vods are also available from wcg.com
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Thanks, I needed a general overview to catch what I missed.
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damn nony that sucks
that was a great run ^^
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Are they in englsh?
aim downloading dem naoo
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holy shit, everyone should watch game 3 of Jaedong vs Stork. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time!!
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
vlc: mmsh://75.126.18.2:2221
jd vs stork series
lovett vs luxury
draco vs stork
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I'm surprised strelok did so well, especially considering he didn't even place 1st in his nation - I knew he had the ability, but for him to beat lovett for bronze -> thats surprising.
For all of those who doubted the strength of the chinese players, there you go!
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On November 09 2008 04:12 FirstProbe wrote:
I'm surprised strelok did so well, especially considering he didn't even place 1st in his nation - I knew he had the ability, but for him to beat lovett for bronze -> thats surprising.
For all of those who doubted the strength of the chinese players, there you go!
strelok isn't chinese
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On November 09 2008 04:33 Medix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 04:12 FirstProbe wrote:
I'm surprised strelok did so well, especially considering he didn't even place 1st in his nation - I knew he had the ability, but for him to beat lovett for bronze -> thats surprising.
For all of those who doubted the strength of the chinese players, there you go! strelok isn't chinese
meeh, thats why FirstProbe's post is split in 2 paragraphs..
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OMG!
noooooooo i dont want freakin stork to have the 2nd WCG victory!
i only want boxer to be the only one....
Luxury you better destroy his ass
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On November 09 2008 05:11 Darkmole wrote:
OMG!
noooooooo i dont want freakin stork to have the 2nd WCG victory!
i only want boxer to be the only one....
Luxury you better destroy his ass
ROFL
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yea luxury...lol thatll be the day. Id say for lux to win he needs atleast 1 cheese win.
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Stork's PvZ is kinda unpredictable ~.~ but I am cheering for him as always!
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Oh wow Strelok. Congrats on your Bronze Medal!
I'm quite surprised at the results.
NT NonY =(
And sucks that Jaedong lost in the Ro8.
Stork for another gold yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Wow great job Strelok, congrats!! Also very impressive that loveTT took a game off Stork ^^
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Wow, that Stork game where both are trying to throw it is hilarious.
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Wow congratulations to Strelok! I have always loved his play and I am happy that he won third place!
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WOW i cant believe this
gj stork
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Wow Jaedong .
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Very impressive display by Strelok! Did not see that coming, congrats!
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I guess no pressure from the daddy this year since the opponent is another Korean -.-
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Why did Jaedong and Stork have to fight in the RO8 and not Luxury or someone else?
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On November 09 2008 09:34 deathgod6 wrote:
Why did Jaedong and Stork have to fight in the RO8 and not Luxury or someone else?
welcome to the WCG Grand Finals where it's really beyond the game
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I like BWWI's brackets better where there was a loser's bracket
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Luxury will send Stork back to the silver mines.
I believe Luxury.
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On November 09 2008 10:05 Nitan wrote:
Luxury will send Stork back to the silver mines.
I believe Luxury.
You believe in Luxury's ZvP? I feel for you, bud.
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On November 09 2008 11:01 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 10:05 Nitan wrote:
Luxury will send Stork back to the silver mines.
I believe Luxury. You believe in Luxury's ZvP? I feel for you, bud.
It's simple, Stork goes into a game with a plan and Luxury's..."interesting" ZvP will totally throw him off his game.
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Alot of bad players don't realize what stork did in game 3 against jaedong so I will fill you in.
He completely mind fucked him.
Showing sair/reaver with +1 core and not +1 forge is 100% (normally) indicator of pure sair/reaver -> island expo before gateways. After showing jaedong these, he proceeds to build sairs, just to nullifiy muta threat and then cuts probes completely for a dramatic 6 gate zealot legs switch. He tricked jaedong into going for a super early drop(not that he knew he would do it) AND overexpanding , his meta-game completely threw jaedong and it was brilliant, esp after jaedongs failed scout denialand storks timming push into goon/reaver the game before.
Stork gave jaedong weird information and jaedongs "shitty" drop was a result of that.
I've never minded my favorite player losing so little, but man stork really tricked him hard, and I like that!
I hope everybody who watchs this match looks for these small meta-game things they are what make the pro's pro's.
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On November 09 2008 11:16 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 11:01 Avidkeystamper wrote:On November 09 2008 10:05 Nitan wrote:
Luxury will send Stork back to the silver mines.
I believe Luxury. You believe in Luxury's ZvP? I feel for you, bud. It's simple, Stork goes into a game with a plan and Luxury's..."interesting" ZvP will totally throw him off his game.
have you ever seen stork vs luxury before?
It doesn't work out like that t.t
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anyone got replays (both from sc and wc3) yet?
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On November 09 2008 11:28 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 11:16 Nitan wrote:On November 09 2008 11:01 Avidkeystamper wrote:On November 09 2008 10:05 Nitan wrote:
Luxury will send Stork back to the silver mines.
I believe Luxury. You believe in Luxury's ZvP? I feel for you, bud. It's simple, Stork goes into a game with a plan and Luxury's..."interesting" ZvP will totally throw him off his game. have you ever seen stork vs luxury before? It doesn't work out like that t.t
You'll see! You'll all see!
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On November 09 2008 11:29 GTR-2-Go wrote:
anyone got replays (both from sc and wc3) yet?
waiting for those as well, to bad there wasnt a korean Terran in WCG ...
at least there's strelok
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Russian Federation386 Posts
Wow, Stork lost a game to foreigner lol
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On November 09 2008 11:26 AttackZerg wrote:
Alot of bad players don't realize what stork did in game 3 against jaedong so I will fill you in.
He completely mind fucked him.
Showing sair/reaver with +1 core and not +1 forge is 100% (normally) indicator of pure sair/reaver -> island expo before gateways. After showing jaedong these, he proceeds to build sairs, just to nullifiy muta threat and then cuts probes completely for a dramatic 6 gate zealot legs switch. He tricked jaedong into going for a super early drop(not that he knew he would do it) AND overexpanding , his meta-game completely threw jaedong and it was brilliant, esp after jaedongs failed scout denialand storks timming push into goon/reaver the game before.
Stork gave jaedong weird information and jaedongs "shitty" drop was a result of that.
I've never minded my favorite player losing so little, but man stork really tricked him hard, and I like that!
I hope everybody who watchs this match looks for these small meta-game things they are what make the pro's pro's.
You're still forgetting the fact that Jaedong did not even attempt to scout Stork before going for the drop. He tried to do so with some scourges and failed. Then he immediately went for the drop. The drop was also scouted too.
Although you can excuse him for assuming Stork went full blown corsair/reaver, at the very least he could've suicided some more scourges or ovie just to make sure.
In the end, his choice was at the very least a risky play. Even if it can be considered justified.
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who is lovett? He seems really good knocking off nony and taking a game vs stork
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Losing to a guy who took a game off of Stork. No shame in that. Good showing USA!!
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LoveTT is winner of WCG China
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On November 09 2008 12:53 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 11:26 AttackZerg wrote:
Alot of bad players don't realize what stork did in game 3 against jaedong so I will fill you in.
He completely mind fucked him.
Showing sair/reaver with +1 core and not +1 forge is 100% (normally) indicator of pure sair/reaver -> island expo before gateways. After showing jaedong these, he proceeds to build sairs, just to nullifiy muta threat and then cuts probes completely for a dramatic 6 gate zealot legs switch. He tricked jaedong into going for a super early drop(not that he knew he would do it) AND overexpanding , his meta-game completely threw jaedong and it was brilliant, esp after jaedongs failed scout denialand storks timming push into goon/reaver the game before.
Stork gave jaedong weird information and jaedongs "shitty" drop was a result of that.
I've never minded my favorite player losing so little, but man stork really tricked him hard, and I like that!
I hope everybody who watchs this match looks for these small meta-game things they are what make the pro's pro's. You're still forgetting the fact that Jaedong did not even attempt to scout Stork before going for the drop. He tried to do so with some scourges and failed. Then he immediately went for the drop. The drop was also scouted too. Although you can excuse him for assuming Stork went full blown corsair/reaver, at the very least he could've suicided some more scourges or ovie just to make sure. In the end, his choice was at the very least a risky play. Even if it can be considered justified.
storks unique build, and it was done differently then normal, created an unusual situation. Like I said stork can't be credited with jaedong drop, but he can be credited with confusing jaedongs strategy, jaedong did not scout the gateways , I agree it was his fault, but it was stork play that made him not scout as much as he normally does.
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On November 09 2008 13:34 f10esqftw wrote:
Losing to a guy who took a game off of Stork. No shame in that. Good showing USA!!
Yeah, great job Nony and Strelok!
Also is LX the same persyn as LoveTT? If so, why are people calling him that? If not, can someone help me out here since no one seems to be called LX on the wcg site.
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On November 09 2008 13:44 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 12:53 baubo wrote:On November 09 2008 11:26 AttackZerg wrote:
Alot of bad players don't realize what stork did in game 3 against jaedong so I will fill you in.
He completely mind fucked him.
Showing sair/reaver with +1 core and not +1 forge is 100% (normally) indicator of pure sair/reaver -> island expo before gateways. After showing jaedong these, he proceeds to build sairs, just to nullifiy muta threat and then cuts probes completely for a dramatic 6 gate zealot legs switch. He tricked jaedong into going for a super early drop(not that he knew he would do it) AND overexpanding , his meta-game completely threw jaedong and it was brilliant, esp after jaedongs failed scout denialand storks timming push into goon/reaver the game before.
Stork gave jaedong weird information and jaedongs "shitty" drop was a result of that.
I've never minded my favorite player losing so little, but man stork really tricked him hard, and I like that!
I hope everybody who watchs this match looks for these small meta-game things they are what make the pro's pro's. You're still forgetting the fact that Jaedong did not even attempt to scout Stork before going for the drop. He tried to do so with some scourges and failed. Then he immediately went for the drop. The drop was also scouted too. Although you can excuse him for assuming Stork went full blown corsair/reaver, at the very least he could've suicided some more scourges or ovie just to make sure. In the end, his choice was at the very least a risky play. Even if it can be considered justified. storks unique build, and it was done differently then normal, created an unusual situation. Like I said stork can't be credited with jaedong drop, but he can be credited with confusing jaedongs strategy, jaedong did not scout the gateways , I agree it was his fault, but it was stork play that made him not scout as much as he normally does.
That's true. Although I was still surprised that Jaedong seemed pretty unprepared for Stork's builds. This isn't the mechanical Stork of 2007. Recently Stork has relied on unorthodox plays as much as his mechanics for his wins. And Jaedong should've been the better preparer for the match given that his coach was on-location to help him.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Stork > Bisu
Stork > Jaedong
Stork ? Flash
Stork doesn't want to be 2nd anymore
Lets see how he fares later on with the man who killed Reaver/Carrier
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Stork got another 1st place, amazing
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Wow, I'd really like to see the Stork / LoveTT series where Stork dropped a game.
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I checked the site and the replays aren't up.
Anybody have a rough idea when they will be?
(I need to setup a couple hour block of free time!)
Thanks in advance.
Attackzerg,
RAWR,
meow,
WOOF!
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On November 09 2008 11:01 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2008 10:05 Nitan wrote:
Luxury will send Stork back to the silver mines.
I believe Luxury. You believe in Luxury's ZvP? I feel for you, bud.
A lot of people would say that about Stork's PvZ, and look where he ended up there?
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This WCG bracket system is beyond terrible, if you watched stork vs legend in group, both tried their best to lose the game to avoid jaedong, for examples: stork double expanding even he sees the 4 gate from legend, legend is about to kill a pylon, which powers 6 gates by itself but he decides to not to kill it, legend dances his goons without hitting once and for shit like that, they really need to change their bracket system.
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Legend said in NeoTV interview that this year's WCG may be his last. He is retiring T_T
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i just watched stork vs jaedong and i love stork but i smell a luxury win. I think this "new" build is vulnerable to agro-zerg style. Of course thats unless stork comes with another nice build suitable to counter luxurys style (like that 1 gate tech on destination), but still my instinct tells me luxury.
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Unlike going against Jaedong, Stork doesn't need a special build against luxury. Luxury has never shown good game sense against protoss. And he was Stork's whipping boy in both the OSL and the proleague finals.
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whats the deal with ppl dissing Luxury's ZvP? hes 54% vs P and 56% vs T ...
28-23 vs P.
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Good job Strelok!
After so many years he was finally able to go to WCG, and there is a bronze medal...
beating those two top Chinese players was huge, so it's totally deserved
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Yeah, that's awesome (i'm talking about Strelok)!
And he's 9-1 against non-korean players (all TvP). Pretty impressive. :-o
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whoa holy shit strelok beat lovett o.O
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hey, would anyone be so kind to post the CS results so far ? :s
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
Stork proved again that he is a silver boy
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On November 09 2008 10:05 Nitan wrote:
Luxury will send Stork back to the silver mines.
I believe Luxury.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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I love luxury, its good to see he finally beat Stork.
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On November 09 2008 17:45 Hyperionnn wrote:
This WCG bracket system is beyond terrible, if you watched stork vs legend in group, both tried their best to lose the game to avoid jaedong, for examples: stork double expanding even he sees the 4 gate from legend, legend is about to kill a pylon, which powers 6 gates by itself but he decides to not to kill it, legend dances his goons without hitting once and for shit like that, they really need to change their bracket system.
i wanna watch those games,is there a link to them?
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Belgium6774 Posts
I was actually thinking about the possibility of 2 people trying really hard to drop a game and wondered what the result would be. I saw the Legend vs Stork replay and wow..
Legend goes cross pos 2gate zealrush
he almost kills the pylon but then runs away at 90 hp and throws his units
stork then double expands while legend makes 4 gates lol
legend then just proceeded to blatantly throw his units away and gg's, it was pretty funny
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On November 09 2008 11:26 AttackZerg wrote:
Alot of bad players don't realize what stork did in game 3 against jaedong so I will fill you in.
He completely mind fucked him.
Showing sair/reaver with +1 core and not +1 forge is 100% (normally) indicator of pure sair/reaver -> island expo before gateways. After showing jaedong these, he proceeds to build sairs, just to nullifiy muta threat and then cuts probes completely for a dramatic 6 gate zealot legs switch. He tricked jaedong into going for a super early drop(not that he knew he would do it) AND overexpanding , his meta-game completely threw jaedong and it was brilliant, esp after jaedongs failed scout denialand storks timming push into goon/reaver the game before.
Stork gave jaedong weird information and jaedongs "shitty" drop was a result of that.
I've never minded my favorite player losing so little, but man stork really tricked him hard, and I like that!
I hope everybody who watchs this match looks for these small meta-game things they are what make the pro's pro's.
Thx for that , and they say bw is shallow ~~
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Watching Strelok play was amazing, he deserved the third place. I was standing behind LoveTT, and he was never in control of the games against him.
Luxury looked like invincible against foreigners in his first person view, he was in total control. Masscata never did anything against him and ChinaTTTT never left his base without getting massacred. In fact it was quite an achievement by Strelok to dispute his map control for a while in the second game ^^
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Hoho looks like Stork got killed 0-2.
Lucky for him WCG world final doesn't count for much.
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On November 10 2008 04:25 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I was actually thinking about the possibility of 2 people trying really hard to drop a game and wondered what the result would be. I saw the Legend vs Stork replay and wow..
Legend goes cross pos 2gate zealrush
he almost kills the pylon but then runs away at 90 hp and throws his units
stork then double expands while legend makes 4 gates lol
legend then just proceeded to blatantly throw his units away and gg's, it was pretty funny
Yeah this was so funny and sad at the same time.
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 09 2008 19:21 baubo wrote:
Unlike going against Jaedong, Stork doesn't need a special build against luxury. Luxury has never shown good game sense against protoss. And he was Stork's whipping boy in both the OSL and the proleague finals. im so good with my instinct
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It would be sad if Stork regressed after this.
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well stork won osl so who cares.
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On November 10 2008 08:32 Raithed wrote:
well stork won osl so who cares.
It's like misplaced hope.
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Its the OSL CURSE!
Even the girfriend loving down to earth guy couldn't avoid it...
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I'm not sure which WCG thread to post this, but where can I find the infamous Stork vs Legend game? The WCG website doesn't seem to have it, and it won't load any other games. Also, can I find the WC3 finals commentated in english anywhere? Those, the WCG does have, but the player flakes out.
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On November 13 2008 17:58 CDRdude wrote:
I'm not sure which WCG thread to post this, but where can I find the infamous Stork vs Legend game? The WCG website doesn't seem to have it, and it won't load any other games. Also, can I find the WC3 finals commentated in english anywhere? Those, the WCG does have, but the player flakes out.
you mean the rep? the vod is in youtube iirc jon747 there are some wcg wc3 too
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=u4JiPxXwkpg
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luxury played really well ;d
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LoveTT played 1-2 vs Stork, now that is really impressive. Stork PvP isn't bad ....
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Netherlands13554 Posts
LoveTT should've won the third game actually 
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Im happy that Nony made it to the ro8, too bad he didnt beat LoveTT. Also glad that Luxury won in the finals, even though they were pretty anti-climactic.
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