EPT
[ASL21] Ro16 Group B
| Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments |
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
chongu
Malaysia2595 Posts
| ||
|
Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines632 Posts
| ||
|
HOLYBATS
Turkey777 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
Piano seems the obvious one to drop out given his TvP isn't great. But this being the season of upsets, who knows? Rain is too much of an X factor to predict. Just seems to never take the game seriously/play much but then rocks up to ASLs and qualifies pretty easily. Logic says Snow and Hero but I dunno. I think Rain is gonna make it so one of Snow/Hero drops out. Could all come down to matchups. Piano not great at TvP but I think he'd beat Hero TvZ. Snow > Piano Rain > Hero Rain > Snow Piano > Hero Snow > Piano or Snow > Piano Rain < Hero Hero > Snow Piano < Rain Snow < Rain Snow v Rain is a toss up but I don't like Snow's chances vs Hero. | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
Really wanna see Piano take out Rain 0-2, but Rain might even survive if for whatever reason hero isn't (soft) hydra busting and Rain gets dmg with a DT. Bisu knows how to counter hero really well, so he may have giving old team mate By.Sun some tips for today. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
On April 14 2026 13:40 BLinD-RawR wrote: Happy Birthday DPB Thank you! Happy Joining-TL Anniversary!  | ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
i dont see organ getting out, and rain is a wildcard | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8639 Posts
 | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8639 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22239 Posts
| ||
|
Naib
Hungary4878 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Naib
Hungary4878 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
| ||
|
Soulforged
Latvia937 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
| ||
|
SCRVN
166 Posts
On April 14 2026 19:28 gravity wrote: Funny to see probes being sent out to defend only for the opponent to immediately gg He overestimated Piano. Actually, he just needed 1/2 his Dragoons to counter it. Piano look likes a little boy who just borrows S rank account from his brother while he's just D rank player. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
guess he was playing league too much again | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22239 Posts
Sure getting exciting games today... | ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22239 Posts
On April 14 2026 19:38 Peeano wrote: wasn't a cheese, just an early marine + vulture push that got shut down and let dragoons kill his natural.I missed the first game. I'm reading that Piano failed his cheese? | ||
|
Rainalcar
Croatia434 Posts
On April 14 2026 19:45 Kaal wrote: cmon rain what was that? And he was supposed to do what? | ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
On April 14 2026 19:45 Gorsameth wrote: Zerg hydra busts, protoss dies. Sure getting exciting games today... thanks to a certain bum on these forums, every rain loss makes me laugh. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
On April 14 2026 19:45 Gorsameth wrote: Zerg hydra busts, protoss dies. Sure getting exciting games today... Lol ya the bo3 format for matches 3,4,5 is more time consuming but at least it will cure these stomps a bit | ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22239 Posts
Zerg casts Hydra bust, its super effective. | ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
Rainalcar
Croatia434 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:03 RowdierBob wrote: It’s baffling that in 2026 people are still losing to Hero hydra busts. Does he ever do anything else? Protoss having to guess in pvz is the worst gameplay design outcome in BW. | ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
Hopefully snow can have a better game 2 | ||
|
Sirris17
4 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22239 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:03 RowdierBob wrote: Because its a lose/lose. It’s baffling that in 2026 people are still losing to Hero hydra busts. Does he ever do anything else? If you pre-emptively build cannons the zerg just doesn't build hydra's and drones up instead and Protoss is way behind. I do think being behind going into the midgame is probably better then being dead tho, so you just have to take the economic hit. | ||
|
SCRVN
166 Posts
This build is so terrible for Protoss and audiences. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
On April 14 2026 19:06 prosatan wrote: Happy birthday DPB! Thanks! Hoping for Snow to take this. | ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:05 a-game wrote: Lmao that was a protoss map too Hopefully snow can have a better game 2 There are no protoss maps in PvZ. | ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
SCRVN
166 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:07 Gorsameth wrote: Because its a lose/lose. If you pre-emptively build cannons the zerg just doesn't build hydra's and drones up instead and Protoss is way behind. I do think being behind going into the midgame is probably better then being dead tho, so you just have to take the economic hit. what you said it's exactly can't exist in the great eSport game, huh? | ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1209 Posts
| ||
|
Maks
Ukraine179 Posts
| ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
Edit: and Snow of course being utterly shocked and unprepared when it hits. | ||
|
Rainalcar
Croatia434 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:20 BLinD-RawR wrote: we're so getting another bust next set Yup. herO needs to drop his honor and just stick to what works. | ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
GG | ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8639 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:37 prosatan wrote: It is 1-1 ? Yep! | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22239 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:37 prosatan wrote: yesIt is 1-1 ? | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8639 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
He beat the 65% ZvP raid boss | ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
HOLYBATS
Turkey777 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:44 oxKnu wrote: 98% of PvZ's on this map that don't end before the 12 minute mark will go to a lurker contain and slow death for the Protoss. Reverse Benzene. we're so far removed from the heyday of matchpoint being one of the best 2p maps. | ||
|
M3t4PhYzX
Poland4248 Posts
 | ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: we're so far removed from the heyday of matchpoint being one of the best 2p maps. Has it ever been good? Don't remember the ~2011 era. I'm assuming a lot of it was random play. I think the zerg brain is very comfortable with Benzene/Matchpoint type maps. It's a washed up layout. Mapmakers have to stop being lazy about 2p maps. | ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
oxKnu
1256 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:52 gravity wrote: Given that Snow only built a couple of Sairs, I wonder if Hero should have built some Mutas to snipe Templars (maybe he didn't have enough resources). What was Hero actually doing? That seemed like such poor play for some reason. | ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:53 oxKnu wrote: What was Hero actually doing? That seemed like such poor play for some reason. Yeah it somehow seemed like an easier win for Snow than the previous game despite him being under more pressure at the start in this one. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:53 oxKnu wrote: What was Hero actually doing? That seemed like such poor play for some reason. Looked ike his game plan was hitting probes with lurkers at both expos and then just comfortably out macro while keeping control of the high ground slap at Snow's mineral only (and then end once 2-0 kicked in, I imagine.) It seemed like herO was also actively trying to bluff dropping Snow's main, but Snow didn't get fooled by it. | ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
Rainalcar
Croatia434 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
On April 14 2026 21:15 Peeano wrote: No way Piano is beating Rain on Match Point, so this Bo3 feels already done. I hope so! | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
Rainalcar
Croatia434 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines522 Posts
| ||
|
TMNT
3139 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
Anyways rain fighting ~ | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
Rainalcar
Croatia434 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
VioleTAK
4350 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
VioleTAK
4350 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
On April 14 2026 22:25 gravity wrote: Hero has spent a lot of time supply blocked tonight Thankfully for Rain, that slowed down the possible hydra bust. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2074 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
| ||
|
VioleTAK
4350 Posts
| ||
|
doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1281 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13385 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States45532 Posts
On April 14 2026 22:32 gravity wrote: Rain had the pressure on Hero, but somehow fell behind in supply (maybe sacking too much to attack that hatch?) and didn't have nearly enough to hold that last attack. He threw away a bunch of corsairs too, which exposed his high templar to muta snipes. | ||
|
Talaris
Switzerland761 Posts
On April 14 2026 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote: all that work, to get hydra busted again 2 games in a row. you called it, when Zerg is in doubt, hydra bust | ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
On April 14 2026 22:32 gravity wrote: Rain had the pressure on Hero, but somehow fell behind in supply (maybe saccing too much to attack that hatch?) and didn't have nearly enough to hold that last attack. Could be the turning point sacrificing 10 zealots and not even killing the hatchery Anyways ggs! | ||
|
Zografa
258 Posts
| ||
|
kAra
Germany1409 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
| ||
|
M2
Bulgaria4150 Posts
On April 14 2026 22:35 kAra wrote: sad to lose a protoss with this distribution but well deserved win from hero Bisu needs to qualify (sorry JD) from his group and we will have pretty good race and title contenders per race distribution. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5407 Posts
Why right click and pray you will wreck it before all zealots are killed? This the tournament of tournaments. But tbf I don't think Snow would have gone for that trade even if he could have. Seems like the sacrifice is just too big, unless you're already far ahead. | ||
|
sataNik[pG]
Greece724 Posts
| ||
|
VioleTAK
4350 Posts
On April 14 2026 22:45 M2 wrote: Bisu needs to qualify (sorry JD) from his group and we will have pretty good race and title contenders per race distribution. Bisu and JD Sorry Flash. | ||
|
Rainalcar
Croatia434 Posts
| ||
|
TMNT
3139 Posts
On April 14 2026 20:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Hero purposely showed the lair and then cancelled it! Actually, that fake Lair served no purpose other than revealing Hero's trick to Snow. Snow sees that the Lair is still morphing at 5:20 which makes no sense because the normal time for Lair to finish with that build is before 5:00. The funny thing is if he didn't fake that, Snow would be left wondering whether Hero builds a Lair in his main. But since he does that, Snow knows for sure that this guy is up to something, that's why he puts not one but two cannons down right after. Kind of a shame that the 2 English casters are both Zerg players but the best guess Saiyan could come up with to explain Snow's decision is "did he catch the retreating vision" And the crazy thing is that without that fake Lair, Snow may have died to the hydra bust. There's 12 Hydras at his door when it happens and with only 2 cannons he'd probably die. | ||
|
Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines632 Posts
On April 14 2026 15:17 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: snow, hero xD hero 4-killed in PL several days ago, so i knew mr. consistency was regaining some of his form | ||
|
Destroyer
Czech Republic947 Posts
On April 14 2026 23:00 sataNik[pG] wrote: Most indicative of the mental state was the hidden dt that attacked an almost completed hatch instead of waiting for the drones. Hey old fella! ;-) | ||
|
Destroyer
Czech Republic947 Posts
On April 15 2026 02:43 TMNT wrote: Actually, that fake Lair served no purpose other than revealing Hero's trick to Snow. Snow sees that the Lair is still morphing at 5:20 which makes no sense because the normal time for Lair to finish with that build is before 5:00. The funny thing is if he didn't fake that, Snow would be left wondering whether Hero builds a Lair in his main. But since he does that, Snow knows for sure that this guy is up to something, that's why he puts not one but two cannons down right after. Kind of a shame that the 2 English casters are both Zerg players but the best guess Saiyan could come up with to explain Snow's decision is "did he catch the retreating vision" And the crazy thing is that without that fake Lair, Snow may have died to the hydra bust. There's 12 Hydras at his door when it happens and with only 2 cannons he'd probably die. Exactly! I have really enjoyed Snow's reaction, he just knew it wasnt right and boom made correctly three cannons. | ||
|
sataNik[pG]
Greece724 Posts
Hey man! What's up, you playing? | ||
|
Destroyer
Czech Republic947 Posts
Nono, havent really for decades, but I still do enjoy to just watch people who do and do it really well. | ||
|
Simplistik
2121 Posts
On April 14 2026 22:45 M2 wrote: Bisu needs to qualify (sorry JD) from his group and we will have pretty good race and title contenders per race distribution. Actually, JD or Bisu doesn't matter for balance. We already have 2Z, 2T and 2P qualified, so as long as it's not Flash and Ample the balance will be as good as it gets. (That said, I'd prefer Bisu to make it...) | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10367 Posts
On April 15 2026 03:39 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: xD hero 4-killed in PL several days ago, so i knew mr. consistency was regaining some of his form Damn, my mr. consistency nickname is starting to stick for Hero. | ||
|
M2
Bulgaria4150 Posts
On April 15 2026 13:58 Simplistik wrote: Actually, JD or Bisu doesn't matter for balance. We already have 2Z, 2T and 2P qualified, so as long as it's not Flash and Ample the balance will be as good as it gets. (That said, I'd prefer Bisu to make it...) True, but the major difference is qualitative. If Bisu qualifies than both Z and P will have two title contenders (or at least pretty good players) each, but if JD qualifies than Z will have three contenders and P will only have Snow | ||
|
ZeroByte13
795 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
| ||
|
M2
Bulgaria4150 Posts
On April 15 2026 17:37 ZeroByte13 wrote: Is JD a true contender really? Flash, Soma and Snow are the true contenders imo and Snow needs Flash and Soma to be on the other side of the bracket to really be a contender. | ||
|
johanes
Czech Republic2232 Posts
On April 15 2026 17:37 ZeroByte13 wrote: Is JD a true contender really? JD can beat anyone right now, he is favourite vs Snow, even with Soma and underdog to Flash imo | ||
|
Destroyer
Czech Republic947 Posts
And well, we still have group with Light and RoyaL left and both are champion level players in solid shape. So I guess upcomming weeks will tell us. | ||
|
Zografa
258 Posts
On April 16 2026 00:06 johanes wrote: JD can beat anyone right now, he is favourite vs Snow, even with Soma and underdog to Flash imo we really need to chill on the jd hype train, he is in no way favorite in that group, he basically is like 30-35% underdog vs flash and 45/55 vs bisu and thats on his solid days, he really needs to bring THAT form from before like 2-3 weeks to be able to overcome both of them | ||
|
ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1707 Posts
Rain was the better player today should have advanced | ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
| ||
|
goody153
44260 Posts
I really enjoy zvp but god i hate hydra busts. It's such an annoying aspect of the matchup since even in the highest level execution of it is so easy compared to defending it. Map makers should really just make maps unfavorable to hydra busts by feature. They did make all maps almost only one entrance that can be blocked anyways like it fixed broodwar it would fix the stupid matchup imbalance cause zvp outside that looks actually competitive for both races | ||
|
mtcn77
Turkey688 Posts
Winners Game 1, FE. Winners Game 2 zealot archon: total victory. Does anybody still doubt zealot archon? Flash is literally quoted to insult Snow saying, "he played like the computer" in the last season. FE is what causes you to lose, protoss! I cannot believe FE is still a thing. | ||
|
M2
Bulgaria4150 Posts
On April 16 2026 23:59 goody153 wrote: Snow got out as expected. Organ got cooked as expected finally I really enjoy zvp but god i hate hydra busts. It's such an annoying aspect of the matchup since even in the highest level execution of it is so easy compared to defending it. Map makers should really just make maps unfavorable to hydra busts by feature. They did make all maps almost only one entrance that can be blocked anyways like it fixed broodwar it would fix the stupid matchup imbalance cause zvp outside that looks actually competitive for both races The real issue is not the easiness of the execution imo, but the no real trade off for an all in. Its the only all in in BW where there is no trade off or penalty of any (meaningful) kind for the initiator. You either win or continue playing on even grounds. | ||
|
ruhtraeel
Canada131 Posts
On April 14 2026 19:34 a-game wrote: Ok so hero has 65% winrate ZvP meanwhile rain's PvZ is his weakest mu. yikes You read that wrong, Rain actually has above average PvZ, and good (used to be godly but not anymore) PvP. It's his PvT where he constantly gets slapped by mid level players | ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
On April 17 2026 07:47 ruhtraeel wrote: You read that wrong, Rain actually has above average PvZ, and good (used to be godly but not anymore) PvP. It's his PvT where he constantly gets slapped by mid level players ? His PvP winrate is 73% PvT is 60% PvZ is 51% PvZ is his weakest mu | ||
|
ruhtraeel
Canada131 Posts
On April 17 2026 08:37 a-game wrote: ? His PvP winrate is 73% PvT is 60% PvZ is 51% PvZ is his weakest mu Where are you seeing his PvT being 60%? Right before the match starts, it shows his winrate as 47.9% | ||
|
mtcn77
Turkey688 Posts
On April 17 2026 04:41 M2 wrote: The real issue is not the easiness of the execution imo, but the no real trade off for an all in. Its the only all in in BW where there is no trade off or penalty of any (meaningful) kind for the initiator. You either win or continue playing on even grounds. It is not hydrabust win, rather FE build order loss. Hydras themselves are also deadend units. It is a race to the bottom to see who can sack their lategame the hardest. PS: I still don't know how winners games maps differed so wildly from the final games maps. When you start with octagon and end with knockout, I can tell it is very pvz unfavoured. | ||
|
a-game
Canada5147 Posts
On April 17 2026 10:36 ruhtraeel wrote: Where are you seeing his PvT being 60%? Right before the match starts, it shows his winrate as 47.9%  Rain | ||
|
Qikz
United Kingdom12029 Posts
| ||
| ||
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/652.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/92.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/82.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/697.jpg)
