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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4150 Posts
April 15 2026 13:22 GMT
#181
On April 15 2026 17:37 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Is JD a true contender really?

Flash, Soma and Snow are the true contenders imo and Snow needs Flash and Soma to be on the other side of the bracket to really be a contender.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2232 Posts
April 15 2026 15:06 GMT
#182
On April 15 2026 17:37 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Is JD a true contender really?

JD can beat anyone right now, he is favourite vs Snow, even with Soma and underdog to Flash imo
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic947 Posts
April 15 2026 15:44 GMT
#183
Looking at recent performances I would just say it would be Bisu as first and possibly JD with him, but... and thats a big unknown... Flash hasnt been playing proleagues and showing himself up much recently, so I guess he is playing and practicing offstream a lot... and I am really wondering what he will come up with.
And well, we still have group with Light and RoyaL left and both are champion level players in solid shape. So I guess upcomming weeks will tell us.
never too old for starcraft :)
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
258 Posts
April 15 2026 18:35 GMT
#184
On April 16 2026 00:06 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2026 17:37 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Is JD a true contender really?

JD can beat anyone right now, he is favourite vs Snow, even with Soma and underdog to Flash imo

we really need to chill on the jd hype train, he is in no way favorite in that group, he basically is like 30-35% underdog vs flash and 45/55 vs bisu and thats on his solid days, he really needs to bring THAT form from before like 2-3 weeks to be able to overcome both of them
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1707 Posts
April 15 2026 23:36 GMT
#185
fuck hydra busts and fake hydra busts into crazy greedy droning

Rain was the better player today should have advanced

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
April 16 2026 11:31 GMT
#186
still laughing.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-16 15:02:22
April 16 2026 14:59 GMT
#187
Snow got out as expected. Organ got cooked as expected finally

I really enjoy zvp but god i hate hydra busts. It's such an annoying aspect of the matchup since even in the highest level execution of it is so easy compared to defending it.

Map makers should really just make maps unfavorable to hydra busts by feature. They did make all maps almost only one entrance that can be blocked anyways like it fixed broodwar it would fix the stupid matchup imbalance cause zvp outside that looks actually competitive for both races
this is a quote
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey688 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-16 17:29:31
April 16 2026 17:27 GMT
#188
Rain vs Hero, FE.
Winners Game 1, FE.
Winners Game 2 zealot archon: total victory. Does anybody still doubt zealot archon? Flash is literally quoted to insult Snow saying, "he played like the computer" in the last season.
FE is what causes you to lose, protoss! I cannot believe FE is still a thing.
Turrican
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4150 Posts
April 16 2026 19:41 GMT
#189
On April 16 2026 23:59 goody153 wrote:
Snow got out as expected. Organ got cooked as expected finally

I really enjoy zvp but god i hate hydra busts. It's such an annoying aspect of the matchup since even in the highest level execution of it is so easy compared to defending it.

Map makers should really just make maps unfavorable to hydra busts by feature. They did make all maps almost only one entrance that can be blocked anyways like it fixed broodwar it would fix the stupid matchup imbalance cause zvp outside that looks actually competitive for both races

The real issue is not the easiness of the execution imo, but the no real trade off for an all in. Its the only all in in BW where there is no trade off or penalty of any (meaningful) kind for the initiator. You either win or continue playing on even grounds.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada131 Posts
April 16 2026 22:47 GMT
#190
On April 14 2026 19:34 a-game wrote:
Ok so hero has 65% winrate ZvP meanwhile rain's PvZ is his weakest mu. yikes


You read that wrong, Rain actually has above average PvZ, and good (used to be godly but not anymore) PvP.

It's his PvT where he constantly gets slapped by mid level players
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5147 Posts
April 16 2026 23:37 GMT
#191
On April 17 2026 07:47 ruhtraeel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2026 19:34 a-game wrote:
Ok so hero has 65% winrate ZvP meanwhile rain's PvZ is his weakest mu. yikes


You read that wrong, Rain actually has above average PvZ, and good (used to be godly but not anymore) PvP.

It's his PvT where he constantly gets slapped by mid level players

? His PvP winrate is 73% PvT is 60% PvZ is 51%

PvZ is his weakest mu
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada131 Posts
April 17 2026 01:36 GMT
#192
On April 17 2026 08:37 a-game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2026 07:47 ruhtraeel wrote:
On April 14 2026 19:34 a-game wrote:
Ok so hero has 65% winrate ZvP meanwhile rain's PvZ is his weakest mu. yikes


You read that wrong, Rain actually has above average PvZ, and good (used to be godly but not anymore) PvP.

It's his PvT where he constantly gets slapped by mid level players

? His PvP winrate is 73% PvT is 60% PvZ is 51%

PvZ is his weakest mu


Where are you seeing his PvT being 60%? Right before the match starts, it shows his winrate as 47.9%
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey688 Posts
April 17 2026 02:00 GMT
#193
On April 17 2026 04:41 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2026 23:59 goody153 wrote:
Snow got out as expected. Organ got cooked as expected finally

I really enjoy zvp but god i hate hydra busts. It's such an annoying aspect of the matchup since even in the highest level execution of it is so easy compared to defending it.

Map makers should really just make maps unfavorable to hydra busts by feature. They did make all maps almost only one entrance that can be blocked anyways like it fixed broodwar it would fix the stupid matchup imbalance cause zvp outside that looks actually competitive for both races

The real issue is not the easiness of the execution imo, but the no real trade off for an all in. Its the only all in in BW where there is no trade off or penalty of any (meaningful) kind for the initiator. You either win or continue playing on even grounds.

It is not hydrabust win, rather FE build order loss. Hydras themselves are also deadend units. It is a race to the bottom to see who can sack their lategame the hardest.
PS: I still don't know how winners games maps differed so wildly from the final games maps. When you start with octagon and end with knockout, I can tell it is very pvz unfavoured.
Turrican
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5147 Posts
April 17 2026 09:29 GMT
#194
On April 17 2026 10:36 ruhtraeel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2026 08:37 a-game wrote:
On April 17 2026 07:47 ruhtraeel wrote:
On April 14 2026 19:34 a-game wrote:
Ok so hero has 65% winrate ZvP meanwhile rain's PvZ is his weakest mu. yikes


You read that wrong, Rain actually has above average PvZ, and good (used to be godly but not anymore) PvP.

It's his PvT where he constantly gets slapped by mid level players

? His PvP winrate is 73% PvT is 60% PvZ is 51%

PvZ is his weakest mu


Where are you seeing his PvT being 60%? Right before the match starts, it shows his winrate as 47.9%

(Wiki)Rain
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12029 Posts
19 hours ago
#195
Disappointed Rain and sSak haven't gotten through as an old head SKT fan, but ah well.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
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