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ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
November 08 2007 13:46 GMT
#521
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore savior fans who said savior is going to be the next Boxer or NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why savior and bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like naDa and boxer in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now nada is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast savior simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( nada,boxer,oov )



lol

games are lot more competitive now then before
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
November 08 2007 13:47 GMT
#522
who gives a fuck about nada in this thread
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
November 08 2007 13:48 GMT
#523
On November 08 2007 22:43 Jathin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore savior fans who said savior is going to be the next Boxer or NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why savior and bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like naDa and boxer in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now nada is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast savior simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( nada,boxer,oov )


They don't need to be in pro-gaming for as long as Boxer/NaDa to prove that they are consistent. They currently ARE dominant forces, and more importantly they HAVE shown their longevity. Keep in mind that Savior lost in the semi-finals. Boxer/NaDa have lost before the semi-finals many times in their careers.

Savior and Bisu are two of the most consistent players around. Even if they don't qualify for an OSL or MSL (which hasn't even happened yet), they're still consistent and pop up with regularity. Until one of them drops off the face of the earth (like Midas), you can't really say that they aren't comparable to the other consistent vets like Nada/Boxer.


WORD.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
November 08 2007 14:05 GMT
#524
OMGGG LOL MIND AT FINALS HOLY FUCK LOL LOL LOL SAVIOR IS A CRAP.
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
November 08 2007 14:05 GMT
#525
On November 08 2007 22:48 minus_human wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 22:43 Jathin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore savior fans who said savior is going to be the next Boxer or NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why savior and bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like naDa and boxer in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now nada is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast savior simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( nada,boxer,oov )


They don't need to be in pro-gaming for as long as Boxer/NaDa to prove that they are consistent. They currently ARE dominant forces, and more importantly they HAVE shown their longevity. Keep in mind that Savior lost in the semi-finals. Boxer/NaDa have lost before the semi-finals many times in their careers.

Savior and Bisu are two of the most consistent players around. Even if they don't qualify for an OSL or MSL (which hasn't even happened yet), they're still consistent and pop up with regularity. Until one of them drops off the face of the earth (like Midas), you can't really say that they aren't comparable to the other consistent vets like Nada/Boxer.


WORD.



Tell Savior or Bisu to come back 6 OSL finals later and then we'll talk
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
November 08 2007 14:06 GMT
#526
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore savior fans who said savior is going to be the next Boxer or NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why savior and bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like naDa and boxer in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now nada is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast savior simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( nada,boxer,oov )

Savior's there already. None of those players you listed dominated for a period longer than Savior has. He dominated for two years and has 4 major titles. That's more than Boxer and one less than oov, and his came in an era of higher overall level of competition. As much as I respect Nada's achievements, his 3 MSL victories are not nearly as impressive as Savior's 3.

Bisu I agree is not there yet, but "lightyears away" is an overstatement.
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DOgMeAt
Profile Joined August 2005
Czech Republic142 Posts
November 08 2007 14:10 GMT
#527
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore (Z)sAviOr fans who said (Z)sAviOr is going to be the next (T)BoxeR or (T)NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why (Z)sAviOr and (P)Bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like (T)NaDa and (T)BoxeR in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now (T)NaDa is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast (Z)sAviOr simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long (P)Bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( (T)NaDa,(T)BoxeR,(T)Oov )


very funny
Ban Baal
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
November 08 2007 14:25 GMT
#528
On November 08 2007 21:10 wliu2385 wrote:
Even if Savior never wins another game in his life I'll still auto vote him every time.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 21:05 ambit!ous1 wrote:
Funny thread from fomos " 김택용이 죽이고 이성은이 판 무덤에 박성균이 밀어넣다 "

" Bisu kills Savior, FireBathero digs a hole for Savior and Mind buries Savior "


Also, what did PJ do?


PJ will talk at the ceremony about Savior.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
November 08 2007 14:33 GMT
#529
MSL: Bisu beating Xellos -> Bisu vs. Light
OSL: Light beating Iris (possible), Bisu beating Shudder. -> Bisu vs. Light

pattern anyone?
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afiddy
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada108 Posts
November 08 2007 14:35 GMT
#530
Fucking sigh.
Alpha and Omega.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
November 08 2007 14:38 GMT
#531
Like I predicted. Thanks Mind!
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
wifeH
Profile Joined March 2007
United States127 Posts
November 08 2007 14:39 GMT
#532
the world has ended.
SCSE - UCSD
Q(-_-Q)
Profile Joined August 2007
United States348 Posts
November 08 2007 14:40 GMT
#533
*slowly claps.... then falls over from the shock*
SC2 = Alpha = End Balance Speculations?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
November 08 2007 15:02 GMT
#534
AHAHHHA

DREADFUL FBH FEELING WAS RIGHT D:
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Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
November 08 2007 15:02 GMT
#535
the problem is that T is Imba

we almost dont see new zerg and protoss players going to the top
but a lot of T players come from nothing and make to the semis, etc

t_T
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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 08 2007 15:02 GMT
#536
On November 08 2007 23:06 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore savior fans who said savior is going to be the next Boxer or NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why savior and bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like naDa and boxer in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now nada is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast savior simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( nada,boxer,oov )

Savior\'s there already. None of those players you listed dominated for a period longer than Savior has. He dominated for two years and has 4 major titles. That\'s more than Boxer and one less than oov, and his came in an era of higher overall level of competition. As much as I respect Nada\'s achievements, his 3 MSL victories are not nearly as impressive as Savior\'s 3.

Bisu I agree is not there yet, but \"lightyears away\" is an overstatement.

I hate arguing with fanboys, becouse I consifer myself one, but. Saying that Savior dominated for 2 years is a little bit too much.You could say that he dominated MSL,thats correct, but if my memory is correct a the time Savior was winning pringles, other guys were winning OSLs. Casy and Nada I think. Thats not a domination IMO. A bit later he was really domimant for several months, but two years is a bit too much.
Desade
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany50 Posts
November 08 2007 15:04 GMT
#537
Now I want to beat savior too plz!

No honestly this is very very sad. Was so looking forward to a legendary Savior/Bisu rematch.
I only can hope that after some time a newborn savior will rise again.
(maybe he will switch to terran now thinking "this race is just imba" lol)
I love 1 base bos
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
November 08 2007 15:09 GMT
#538
On November 09 2007 00:02 mdb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 23:06 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore savior fans who said savior is going to be the next Boxer or NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why savior and bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like naDa and boxer in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now nada is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast savior simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( nada,boxer,oov )

Savior\'s there already. None of those players you listed dominated for a period longer than Savior has. He dominated for two years and has 4 major titles. That\'s more than Boxer and one less than oov, and his came in an era of higher overall level of competition. As much as I respect Nada\'s achievements, his 3 MSL victories are not nearly as impressive as Savior\'s 3.

Bisu I agree is not there yet, but \"lightyears away\" is an overstatement.

I hate arguing with fanboys, becouse I consifer myself one, but. Saying that Savior dominated for 2 years is a little bit too much.You could say that he dominated MSL,thats correct, but if my memory is correct a the time Savior was winning pringles, other guys were winning OSLs. Casy and Nada I think. Thats not a domination IMO. A bit later he was really domimant for several months, but two years is a bit too much.


Exactly. When savior was IPX nobody really took notice of him even, it was only when he beat Boxer 3-0 in the superfight that people started to take notice of me. Plus an MSL win is not a major title, it is a minor title. Especially in Korea, an OSL win is worth far more than an MSL win. It's much easier to be eliminated in the OSL compared to the MSL (double elimination). MSL has second chances, the OSL doesn't. Its evident that its much harder to dominate in the OSL because so few players have one multiple titles, and only Boxer has won back to back titles. In the MSL, we have 2 players with 3 consecutive titles, and 2 players with back to back titles. Why couldn't they do this in the OSL? It's because its not that easy to do in the OSL.

MSL wins don't mean nearly as much as an OSL.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
November 08 2007 15:15 GMT
#539
On November 09 2007 00:09 himurakenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2007 00:02 mdb wrote:
On November 08 2007 23:06 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 08 2007 22:28 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Im just laughing off my ass.. All these hardcore savior fans who said savior is going to be the next Boxer or NaDa .. guys..

Thats exactly why savior and bisu are still lightyears away from gamers like naDa and boxer in terms of success and pure force.. For sure right now nada is a shadow of himself..
but just see how fast savior simply begins to not win anymore..

Lets see how long bisu can be the dominant force..
gonna take a while for him to be around at the top as long as the true legend ( nada,boxer,oov )

Savior\'s there already. None of those players you listed dominated for a period longer than Savior has. He dominated for two years and has 4 major titles. That\'s more than Boxer and one less than oov, and his came in an era of higher overall level of competition. As much as I respect Nada\'s achievements, his 3 MSL victories are not nearly as impressive as Savior\'s 3.

Bisu I agree is not there yet, but \"lightyears away\" is an overstatement.

I hate arguing with fanboys, becouse I consifer myself one, but. Saying that Savior dominated for 2 years is a little bit too much.You could say that he dominated MSL,thats correct, but if my memory is correct a the time Savior was winning pringles, other guys were winning OSLs. Casy and Nada I think. Thats not a domination IMO. A bit later he was really domimant for several months, but two years is a bit too much.


Exactly. When savior was IPX nobody really took notice of him even, it was only when he beat Boxer 3-0 in the superfight that people started to take notice of me. Plus an MSL win is not a major title, it is a minor title. Especially in Korea, an OSL win is worth far more than an MSL win. It's much easier to be eliminated in the OSL compared to the MSL (double elimination). MSL has second chances, the OSL doesn't. Its evident that its much harder to dominate in the OSL because so few players have one multiple titles, and only Boxer has won back to back titles. In the MSL, we have 2 players with 3 consecutive titles, and 2 players with back to back titles. Why couldn't they do this in the OSL? It's because its not that easy to do in the OSL.

MSL wins don't mean nearly as much as an OSL.


Wait, you = IPXZerg?
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 08 2007 15:15 GMT
#540
MSL has had better games and better players for a while though. Fuck prestige.
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