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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
November 08 2007 11:33 GMT
#481
ugh

savior played very un-savior-esque throughout the entire series T.T

how frowny :[
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
saranghaeCY-
Profile Joined October 2007
United States446 Posts
November 08 2007 11:34 GMT
#482
This is a sad day
~
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
November 08 2007 11:34 GMT
#483
Mind played well, no doubt about it, but I still don't feel too wowed by him. I honestly felt like savior just played poorly and predictably. I don't think Mind is anything special YET. Once he ties up the loose ends in his game, I feel like he has the potential to be huge. In the meantime, I think he played well against a diminishing Savior. As much as I don't like Xellos, I feel that Xellos is much stronger than Mind.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
wifeH
Profile Joined March 2007
United States127 Posts
November 08 2007 11:37 GMT
#484
no one could stand up to Bisu now!
SCSE - UCSD
edzwoo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States469 Posts
November 08 2007 11:38 GMT
#485
On November 08 2007 20:34 Nintu wrote:
Mind played well, no doubt about it, but I still don't feel too wowed by him. I honestly felt like savior just played poorly and predictably. I don't think Mind is anything special YET. Once he ties up the loose ends in his game, I feel like he has the potential to be huge. In the meantime, I think he played well against a diminishing Savior. As much as I don't like Xellos, I feel that Xellos is much stronger than Mind.


I don't get this. People are getting pissed that Savior used predictable builds and such, but everyone fails to realize mind also micro/macroed VERY well and stopped a lot of savior's attacks. usually savior ends up demolishing an army somewhere around the middle and takes a bunch of expos. Mind didn't let that happen.

Plus, where's Bisu in the picture? Not to mention, as far as we know, TvT is probably Mind's strongest matchup. I don't really see what "loose ends" mind has to tie up.
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
November 08 2007 11:39 GMT
#486
Those drops were sexy. I see a parallel between mm drops and reaver drops vZ.
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
November 08 2007 11:39 GMT
#487
Horrible.

What a sad day for savior
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
November 08 2007 11:39 GMT
#488
mind is amazing.
CraZyIvan
Profile Joined October 2007
Malaysia4 Posts
November 08 2007 11:40 GMT
#489
why the fast hive
LaMoj
Profile Joined October 2007
Trinidad/Tobago88 Posts
November 08 2007 11:41 GMT
#490
After that flash loss, my mind said vote Mind. But I really thought that Savior had this. Well I know Bisu won't fuck this up !
gg yo !
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
November 08 2007 11:41 GMT
#491
On November 08 2007 20:29 ItchReliever wrote:
"savior sucks now" kind of statements are bullshit. mind if just goddamn good. mind will beat bisu in an epic series.


Savior is KeSPA #3 and Mind isn't even in the top 30.
So what do you expect? Sure you can always say "the winner played better" but until Mind gains many KeSPA ranks, he's just a bad noname and the reason why he's won is because Savior played like shit.
And if Mind loses to Bisu 0:3 (which is VERY likely) you'll probably say "well Mind is just bad in TvP", eh?
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
November 08 2007 11:42 GMT
#492
On November 08 2007 20:41 Brutalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 20:29 ItchReliever wrote:
"savior sucks now" kind of statements are bullshit. mind if just goddamn good. mind will beat bisu in an epic series.


Savior is KeSPA #3 and Mind isn't even in the top 30.
So what do you expect? Sure you can always say "the winner played better" but until Mind gains many KeSPA ranks, he's just a bad noname and the reason why he's won is because Savior played like shit.
And if Mind loses to Bisu 0:3 (which is VERY likely) you'll probably say "well Mind is just bad in TvP", eh?


fuck the rankings, did you see the games or not? stfu
edzwoo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-08 11:45:33
November 08 2007 11:45 GMT
#493
On November 08 2007 20:41 Brutalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 20:29 ItchReliever wrote:
"savior sucks now" kind of statements are bullshit. mind if just goddamn good. mind will beat bisu in an epic series.


Savior is KeSPA #3 and Mind isn't even in the top 30.
So what do you expect? Sure you can always say "the winner played better" but until Mind gains many KeSPA ranks, he's just a bad noname and the reason why he's won is because Savior played like shit.
And if Mind loses to Bisu 0:3 (which is VERY likely) you'll probably say "well Mind is just bad in TvP", eh?


Are you kidding? So what about kespa rankings? That's like saying, "well TLPD says Mind used to suck, so therefore he's just a noname"

You just said the only possible, even feasible reason Mind won is because Savior played bad.

So it's impossible for mind to have played better than savior if savior played well?
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-08 11:51:42
November 08 2007 11:47 GMT
#494
KeSPA is the objective skill ranking of all players.
It's about likeliness. It's much more likely that Savior lost because he played bad (mistake on his part) than because Mind is better than him (no mistake on Savior's part).
But I'm not going to argue any further with you, think what you want. But remember my words if Mind doesn't get far in the future.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
November 08 2007 11:47 GMT
#495
I did see the games and it was not insanely impressive. It seemed like a random proleague match with no passion in it whatsoever. I do believe Savior is the stronger player all around, but he played badly tonight.

I saw the games, I watched mind closely, and in my own humble opinion, Mind holds no candle to the other Terran's out there.

Just because he toppled Savior, doesn't mean he has to be some God.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
edzwoo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States469 Posts
November 08 2007 11:50 GMT
#496
On November 08 2007 20:47 Brutalisk wrote:
KeSPA is the objective skill ranking of all players.
It's about likeliness. It's much more likely that Savior lost because he played bad (mistake on his part) than because Mind is better than Savior (no mistake on Savior's part).
But I'm not going to argue any further with you, think what you want.


This I agree with. It was probably more likely, but your last post made it seem like you were in total denial of Mind possibly playing well.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 08 2007 11:55 GMT
#497
Mind's progaming winrate is less than 50%.
And he is in MSL finals.

We all know what that means.
OMG, Etter's FE might have a grave miscalculation!!!!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
November 08 2007 11:56 GMT
#498
mind strikes me as a robot. unshakable and calculating. i think his level of multi-task is just as high as bisu, and that's why the finals should be really interesting. and what i saw in those games was mind outplaying savior when they both played regular. i felt his overall skill was greater than savior's.
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
November 08 2007 11:56 GMT
#499
omg...................

i never watching savior play again T____T
go OVERSKY MODE!
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
November 08 2007 12:02 GMT
#500
lol savior ..
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