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RogerChillingworth
2854 Posts
Honestly Soma's almost too good. It's like auroboros or some shit. He's goin so fast and hitting every mark he goes back in time and is AFK during his match and loses to some weak shit. Or himself. I bet his off-race is BANGA. I thought ivOry played pretty good but had some questionable greed going on and some banana peel moments. If we get a PvZ finals where Soma's the Z I'm gonna grow a rubbery one. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On August 24 2023 20:28 Terrorbladder wrote: Remastered fix muta splash damage? How :O No, as I understand it remastered fixed Valkyrie splash damage by removing the occasions where sprite limits caused rockets to not spawn and hence not do damage. Affecting muta balance versus T from the other direction. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On August 24 2023 12:45 townhouse wrote: valks are so OP. what a dumb unit I would love to see someone saying this back in 2009 when FanTaSy was using them a bunch and everyone called them garbage hahaha. On August 25 2023 13:14 Turbovolver wrote: No, as I understand it remastered fixed Valkyrie splash damage by removing the occasions where sprite limits caused rockets to not spawn and hence not do damage. Affecting muta balance versus T from the other direction. I don't believe they ever actually fixed that, they planned to but I think either never put it in or removed it because it broke something else. Either way that wouldn't have any affect on the games we see right now it's only affected when the sprite limit is reached and that isn't done early game. It's mainly in late game with 200/200 but it's mainly when there's more than 2 people. | ||
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Ideas
United States8100 Posts
On August 25 2023 16:33 Qikz wrote: I would love to see someone saying this back in 2009 when FanTaSy was using them a bunch and everyone called them garbage hahaha. I don't believe they ever actually fixed that, they planned to but I think either never put it in or removed it because it broke something else. Either way that wouldn't have any affect on the games we see right now it's only affected when the sprite limit is reached and that isn't done early game. It's mainly in late game with 200/200 but it's mainly when there's more than 2 people. Yea I think that's always been a misconception about the BW remaster and valk micro and sprite limit lol. I don't think valks were ever busted in pro BW scene because of sprite limit.. only hard to micro until pros sorta figured it out in 2008/2009 with fantasy build. It does seem like valk micro has gotten a lot better in the last few years since Remastered came out (same as with muta micro), possibly due to turn rate being increased? But might just be that pros have gotten a lot better at it by having even more years of experience with it. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4098 Posts
As others have said, the sprite limit rarely (or perhaps never) affects regular 1v1. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
On August 25 2023 00:50 QOGQOG wrote: People are still on the "oh poor zerg" thing? After 2/3 advanced to the Ro16? Really? Hahaha my wife and I only tuned it for this last group and when we saw the Ro16 list, we were like I betcha Zergs are still bitching about something. On valks — I still clearly remember the TL writeup that had a pic of Fantasy, Oov, and Boxer. The caption was “Hyung, this little nooblet wants to use Valkyries in TvZ. I keep telling him no but he wont listen. Imma make him scrub toilets all weekend.” | ||
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moktira
Ireland1543 Posts
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Ideas
United States8100 Posts
On August 26 2023 00:20 Magic Powers wrote: Backshot with valkyries was discovered somewhat recently and that has made them more viable. That's the whole reason why we're seeing them being used more now. As others have said, the sprite limit rarely (or perhaps never) affects regular 1v1. What's the difference between modern valk micro and what is described in this thread from 2009? https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/98125-valkyrie-micro YT video showing it: Fantasy doing it in 2009 (you can see him failing it a lot beforehand though haha): | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4098 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
and wasn't the 100 sprite missile limit or whatever it's called like all the sprites on the screen at once including the valks, or only the valks? i could be completely wrong about everything tho, lol | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
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TMNT
2712 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
On August 26 2023 13:55 RKC wrote: Didn't Flash 3-0ed Zero in MSL final with valk builds? Such crisp timings. Man this is really testing my memory. Can’t recall game1. Game 2 I can’t really say what Flash’s build was, but the story here was Zero got the better of him in the opener when Flash did his typical fast scout to confirm 12hatch before he does a very fast expo. Zero hid his natural expansion so Flash’s expo timing and build was messed up. In the interview, Flash said he was mentally preparing for a loss before somehow pulling out the win. Game 3 I’m not sure if it was a mech switch midway, but essentially Flash got a group of vultures in and decimated Zero. It wasn’t game ending but down 2-0 against Flash with that much of a deficit, it might as well have been. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4990 Posts
1.  JyJ picks  Calm - Group A2. Mind picks Killer - Group B3. herO picks Ample - Group C4.  Best picks Sharp - Group D5. Sharp picks Action - Group D6. Ample picks SoulKey - Group C7. Killer picks effort - Group B8. Calm picks soma - Group A9. soma picks Mini - Group A10. effOrt picks Rush - Group B11. SoulKey picks Bisu - Group C12. RoyaL goes to Group D![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/FRGCQwd.png) JyJ gets last say and swaps Mini and effort![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/xr7ncf7.png) Schedule: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/3JBfVqG.png) | ||
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TMNT
2712 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
I'm really looking forward to Ample's TvZ if he can knock out monstrous herO or late game unbeatable SoulKey so Bisu has chance to get out. | ||
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
mini rush hero sk action best | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines553 Posts
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