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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 05:03 GMT
#2
Soma is a beast
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 05:40 GMT
#3
On April 27 2021 14:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Soma is a beast

Indeed he is.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1035 Posts
April 27 2021 07:03 GMT
#4
soma and not sharp
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 07:46 GMT
#5
Let's see this group!

I think Soma will qualify first.
Then Best, because he has to deal with terrans! His PvT is still one of the best ! Tho, he had to play vs JyJ ... and lost ! But now it's time for revenge !

LB: Soma and Best !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 10:12 GMT
#6
Oh no Best choking even before the match
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Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
April 27 2021 10:14 GMT
#7
Best and someone else, i don`t care.
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 10:20 GMT
#8
Soma had to play Flash in the 3rd place match of ASL9 (lost 0-3), lost two bo1's to Flash again in ASL8 IIRC, lost to Light
1-3 in the semis of ASL9, he's played these two exclusively. Hence the winrate, I guess.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:34 GMT
#9
Cattlebruisers incoming !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 27 2021 10:40 GMT
#10
Scouts and battlecruisers to make up for Flash's random.

ASL11 rocks!
gg no re thx
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:42 GMT
#11
JyJ! Good play !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 27 2021 10:42 GMT
#12
soma is a beast, losing with 3k min in the bank
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 10:43 GMT
#13
Wow, JyJ DID prove me wrong. Some questionable decisions by both players up to the midgame, but the macro stage was immense. Great job!
WriterReV hwaiting!
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 27 2021 10:43 GMT
#14
kill gas = ded zerg
gg no re thx
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
April 27 2021 10:45 GMT
#15
Battlecruiser range abuse to snipe the Gas looks brutal!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:46 GMT
#16
Ok Best! time to show your macro abilities !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:46 GMT
#17
51.6 % ... not so great... 16/15 for Best vs T
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-27 10:52:19
April 27 2021 10:47 GMT
#18
I've been thinking lately, why don't zergs start researching speed and transport their defilers (and also store their defilers in) overlords?

Especially during those midgame pushes where it is GG if a defiler gets in range and the Terran always irradiated en route?

Probably too much gas investment for the midgame since u need to rush consume but after that in the lategame it would make sense to at least store defilers in ovies. Moving ultras to a base? Grab 4 overlords and put a defiler in 1, unload when in position. Slight apm cost but would be worthwhile imo. Faster than burrow and u have mobility.

Anyways Soma big threw that game. Worst muta split of all time when he was close to finishing the game
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:48 GMT
#19
I swear Sharp had 797 apm at one point haha
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
April 27 2021 10:50 GMT
#20
On April 27 2021 19:45 SwordM13X24 wrote:
Battlecruiser range abuse to snipe the Gas looks brutal!


Yea trash map for Zerg vs that bs. They can keep out of plague and hydra range. That is partially why hero and a lot of other zergs are playing hydra defiler on that map.

Kind of absurd that zerg basically needs 5 gas to take on a 3 base Terran since they have to pay for ultras, defilers, and scourge. Soma was floating 3k mins with zero gas
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 27 2021 10:51 GMT
#21
eh did sharp did somthing illegal?
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:52 GMT
#22
Yes, gas walk is illegal. Just yesterday I was reading the competitive rules
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:53 GMT
#23
On April 27 2021 19:51 ggsimida wrote:
eh did sharp did somthing illegal?

But that wasn't gas walk.. just a shift click on the minerals
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:55 GMT
#24
AAA 2 probes sniped just as they want to make a 3rd base
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 27 2021 10:57 GMT
#25
lul
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 10:58 GMT
#26
DAT MINE
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SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
April 27 2021 10:58 GMT
#27
2 Reavers down to a mine! Ouchies!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:58 GMT
#28
nooooooooooooo

both reavers killed by a mine
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 10:59 GMT
#29
Best, this is your chance to qualify by avoiding a BO3 vs Soma !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:00 GMT
#30
fast reaction from Sharp , unsiegeing those tanks...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:03 GMT
#31
well this recall can buy some time
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
April 27 2021 11:05 GMT
#32
Tank line dies! Great storms!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:05 GMT
#33
jangbiesque storms right there !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 11:06 GMT
#34
Totally contrary to my prediction so far, I'm not really complaining since I'll always root for the Terran player, but damn...
WriterReV hwaiting!
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
April 27 2021 11:10 GMT
#35
That Vulture spin, rofl.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 11:11 GMT
#36
What was this recall about... wtf
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LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
April 27 2021 11:12 GMT
#37
Why best suicide recall at the new 1 o'clock in front of 14 tanks? He could have just flown down and killed the 3rd and traded way better
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 27 2021 11:14 GMT
#38
choker gotta choke
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:16 GMT
#39
Best lost like 10000 units to mines...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:19 GMT
#40
Can't even remember a game with P losing so much to mines...

Use your observers , Best !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 27 2021 11:19 GMT
#41
Observers with speed are powerful late game units guys.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 27 2021 11:20 GMT
#42
most pvts would have snowballed out of control after that 6 o'clock recall
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 27 2021 11:22 GMT
#43
On April 27 2021 20:19 prosatan wrote:
Can't even remember a game with P losing so much to mines...

Use your observers , Best !!


in addition to best's neglience u have to give credit to sharp for being proactive with mining+ attacking best's reinforcement route to snipe hts
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 11:22 GMT
#44
This is KSL2/ASL7 Sharp, man. He's all over the place, sending squads of vults to snipe HTs, intercepting arbs with goliaths, so on top of stuff, wow
WriterReV hwaiting!
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
April 27 2021 11:24 GMT
#45
Gg from sharp all in all
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
April 27 2021 11:24 GMT
#46
Best taps out, GG Sharp!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:24 GMT
#47
Best... why ??? With your amazing macro...how can u take so much damage from those mines ?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 27 2021 11:24 GMT
#48
crazy game

Bests observer handling/lack of obs is disturbing though

~_~ so Soma/Best advancing already impossible --
hatred outlives the hateful
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 11:25 GMT
#49
funny how best lost like 3-4 obs being accidentally recalled in that recall on 9
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:25 GMT
#50
On April 27 2021 20:22 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 20:19 prosatan wrote:
Can't even remember a game with P losing so much to mines...

Use your observers , Best !!


in addition to best's neglience u have to give credit to sharp for being proactive with mining+ attacking best's reinforcement route to snipe hts


yes, 100% true... I feel bad for Best..
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 27 2021 11:25 GMT
#51
Sharp was amazing, incredibly well prepared for any possible harassment.

Best played at 60-65% of his online-self. As usual.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 11:25 GMT
#52
also praise the spinning vulture.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 11:26 GMT
#53
On April 27 2021 20:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
also praise the spinning vulture.

We have to pick a song for that one, don't we
WriterReV hwaiting!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6592 Posts
April 27 2021 11:29 GMT
#54
Is a Terran day i guess.Rip LB
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:30 GMT
#55
On April 27 2021 20:29 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Is a Terran day i guess.Rip LB

Yes...mine too eon....I might score 0/2 haha
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 11:31 GMT
#56
On April 27 2021 20:26 TaardadAiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 20:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
also praise the spinning vulture.

We have to pick a song for that one, don't we

send the clip to tank.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 11:36 GMT
#57
Sharp's apm spam, rofl
WriterReV hwaiting!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:37 GMT
#58
On April 27 2021 20:36 TaardadAiel wrote:
Sharp's apm spam, rofl


haha again with 700+ apm
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States190 Posts
April 27 2021 11:38 GMT
#59
Sharp loses the scout! Oh no!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 11:44 GMT
#60
guess the real beast is jyj
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 11:45 GMT
#61
or maybe terrorist is a better name.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 11:45 GMT
#62
A goliath with 11 kills! insane
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 11:50 GMT
#63
JyJ means business, it would seem.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 27 2021 11:50 GMT
#64
man if my LB of JyJ + soma is actually right im gonna feel like Nostradamus
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 11:57 GMT
#65
its fun watching 2 aggressive tvters
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 12:02 GMT
#66
Getting ready for a chess game !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 12:17 GMT
#67
that was a fun game 2
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 12:40 GMT
#68
those stacked scvs are so funny !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2729 Posts
April 27 2021 12:41 GMT
#69
On April 27 2021 20:24 prosatan wrote:
Best... why ??? With your amazing macro...how can u take so much damage from those mines ?

The problem is if he slowly clears those mines with Observer, it will take forever for his army to get where it needs to, let alone the apm dedicated to that task.

If Terran lays mines all over the map like that, Protoss mobility becomes a myth. At that point of the game, Gatewayman is no longer a viable option.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 27 2021 12:43 GMT
#70
On April 27 2021 21:02 prosatan wrote:
Getting ready for a chess game !


That's a great idea. Even if I hate chess, I still like it more than TvT!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 27 2021 12:44 GMT
#71
On April 27 2021 21:41 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 20:24 prosatan wrote:
Best... why ??? With your amazing macro...how can u take so much damage from those mines ?

The problem is if he slowly clears those mines with Observer, it will take forever for his army to get where it needs to, let alone the apm dedicated to that task.

If Terran lays mines all over the map like that, Protoss mobility becomes a myth. At that point of the game, Gatewayman is no longer a viable option.


To a point, yes.

However in that game, the balance was way all over to the Terran.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 27 2021 12:49 GMT
#72
On April 27 2021 21:44 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 21:41 TMNT wrote:
On April 27 2021 20:24 prosatan wrote:
Best... why ??? With your amazing macro...how can u take so much damage from those mines ?

The problem is if he slowly clears those mines with Observer, it will take forever for his army to get where it needs to, let alone the apm dedicated to that task.

If Terran lays mines all over the map like that, Protoss mobility becomes a myth. At that point of the game, Gatewayman is no longer a viable option.


To a point, yes.

However in that game, the balance was way all over to the Terran.


Gotta remember that Best was also constantly making shuttles off of 1 robo. So less time to make obs, every obs he loses hurts much more.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 27 2021 12:58 GMT
#73
soma vs best in the losers' match?! this is gonna be a soma stomp i predict. i want to believe protoss has zvp answers after taking a bo3 off of zero... prove me wrong, best :D
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 27 2021 13:02 GMT
#74
I actually took a nap and woke up in time for losers. Thanks, TvT!
gg no re thx
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 27 2021 13:02 GMT
#75
On April 27 2021 21:49 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 21:44 oxKnu wrote:
On April 27 2021 21:41 TMNT wrote:
On April 27 2021 20:24 prosatan wrote:
Best... why ??? With your amazing macro...how can u take so much damage from those mines ?

The problem is if he slowly clears those mines with Observer, it will take forever for his army to get where it needs to, let alone the apm dedicated to that task.

If Terran lays mines all over the map like that, Protoss mobility becomes a myth. At that point of the game, Gatewayman is no longer a viable option.


To a point, yes.

However in that game, the balance was way all over to the Terran.


Gotta remember that Best was also constantly making shuttles off of 1 robo. So less time to make obs, every obs he loses hurts much more.


And making arbiters, and making templars, that were getting decimated by vults. So overall he was playing through mollases all game.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 13:10 GMT
#76
soma playing only gamble gambles today huh.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 27 2021 13:11 GMT
#77
wow, brutal game. soma couldn't do anything at the end with the storms zoning him out.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 13:14 GMT
#78
3hatch before pool vs gateway first
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 13:16 GMT
#79
aaaaaaaaaa I thought Best would be brave enough to place his core next to gateway, not his forge haha
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-27 13:20:17
April 27 2021 13:20 GMT
#80
come on Best, don't blow it !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 27 2021 13:27 GMT
#81
Best the absolute mad man!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 13:29 GMT
#82
wow soma bombs out hard.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 27 2021 13:29 GMT
#83
soma play seems uninspired today
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
586 Posts
April 27 2021 13:29 GMT
#84
who knew that it would turn out to be such a group of death o_O all games are so intense
So... BW is back
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 13:29 GMT
#85
On April 27 2021 22:29 ggsimida wrote:
soma play seems uninspired today


they were inspired, inspired by some weird ideas.
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
April 27 2021 13:30 GMT
#86
Have no idea what's happening to this group. Any summary of what in the world is happening?
Oppa feeding style
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 27 2021 13:31 GMT
#87
what the fuck soma
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2729 Posts
April 27 2021 13:32 GMT
#88
Best probably practiced his PvZ so much that his PvT now actually slips behind. That's the only explanation.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
April 27 2021 13:33 GMT
#89
On April 27 2021 22:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 22:29 ggsimida wrote:
soma play seems uninspired today


they were inspired, inspired by some weird ideas.


hes solid but always felt his preparatory game/mindgame was the edge that alllowed him to perform so well offline till far (to the point of getting 2 ro4s and 1 finals appearance). its more standard today though, it was more disappointing to see than him being kicked out here. i was sort of expecting his dip in form since its difficult for anyone barring flash to maintain such high level of results for so long.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 27 2021 13:44 GMT
#90
everyone going to the casino with buildorders today geez
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 13:49 GMT
#91
I do see Best has observer speed upgrade ! Very good!!! Better to invest 150/150 than lose so many units to mines !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 13:50 GMT
#92
Or he hasn't ?!?! i am blind !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 27 2021 13:52 GMT
#93
Someone send Flash, Best would've played better against him.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 13:52 GMT
#94
WTF!!!! What is this ??!!?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
April 27 2021 13:54 GMT
#95
Offline Best is
it's not just a music it's something else
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 13:55 GMT
#96
MAKE OBSERVERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 27 2021 13:57 GMT
#97
WHAT? The zealot flank from behind!
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-27 14:00:03
April 27 2021 13:59 GMT
#98
I am sad that Afreeca doesn't work for me. Is it still the first game of Best vs Sharp?
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 27 2021 14:01 GMT
#99
On April 27 2021 22:59 kaspa84 wrote:
I am sad that Afreeca doesn't work for me. Is it still the first game of Best vs Sharp?


Final match.
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Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 27 2021 14:02 GMT
#100
On April 27 2021 22:55 prosatan wrote:
MAKE OBSERVERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1 robo, using all gas for HT and making shuttle all the time = low observer count.
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whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
April 27 2021 14:03 GMT
#101
It is so weird how the offline Best is just so off his game in the matchup that defines him. Sharp is playing well tho.
it's not just a music it's something else
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
April 27 2021 14:05 GMT
#102
On April 27 2021 19:47 LpTraxamillion wrote:
I've been thinking lately, why don't zergs start researching speed and transport their defilers (and also store their defilers in) overlords?

Especially during those midgame pushes where it is GG if a defiler gets in range and the Terran always irradiated en route?

Probably too much gas investment for the midgame since u need to rush consume but after that in the lategame it would make sense to at least store defilers in ovies. Moving ultras to a base? Grab 4 overlords and put a defiler in 1, unload when in position. Slight apm cost but would be worthwhile imo. Faster than burrow and u have mobility.

Anyways Soma big threw that game. Worst muta split of all time when he was close to finishing the game


Yesterday I was watching Eon have a crazy mined out late game vs protoss where he was doing plague drops with overlords
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 27 2021 14:06 GMT
#103
Maybe every player from B to D are secretly playing for second to avoid Zero...
gg no re thx
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
April 27 2021 14:14 GMT
#104
On April 27 2021 23:01 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2021 22:59 kaspa84 wrote:
I am sad that Afreeca doesn't work for me. Is it still the first game of Best vs Sharp?


Final match.


I just realized that they played on the second round. I know they are in the deciders match, but which game it is? How is the score if it's the second game?

Thanks.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 14:19 GMT
#105
sharp obs hunting really buying him some time back.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 27 2021 14:23 GMT
#106
"Wow, how did Best win this battle?"
-Scan

Nice build, best.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
April 27 2021 14:25 GMT
#107
Best is playing such bad PvT whole series, then suddenly he broke sharp's push and won the game 🤨 Confused
Oppa feeding style
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
April 27 2021 14:29 GMT
#108
sad sharp when that assimilator went up
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 27 2021 14:29 GMT
#109
On April 27 2021 23:25 weiliem wrote:
Best is playing such bad PvT whole series, then suddenly he broke sharp's push and won the game 🤨 Confused


He was down in upgrades, too. His micro has been sloppy but his macro is still solid. I think game 2 was decided by that arbiter timing. During the final battle he had four arbiters.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
April 27 2021 14:35 GMT
#110
"What the hell, that's double ebay"
XD
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 14:38 GMT
#111
i wanted Best to win, but now i feel bad for Sharp
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 27 2021 14:38 GMT
#112
based best
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
April 27 2021 14:39 GMT
#113
Lol sharp played good all game. One mistake tho
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 27 2021 14:40 GMT
#114
[image loading]

half man half horse, best of the best.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8047 Posts
April 27 2021 14:40 GMT
#115
Both SK Telecom players qualified
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 27 2021 14:41 GMT
#116
Ex-SKT still best KT.
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
April 27 2021 14:42 GMT
#117
Happy for Best but he's gonna have to play much better to go further..... Its wierd seeing a Best who played amazing PvZ and bad PvT in the same day, is he Bisu?
Oppa feeding style
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 27 2021 14:42 GMT
#118
On April 27 2021 23:41 Qikz wrote:
Ex-SKT still best KT.


MBCGame Hero best KT.
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Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
April 27 2021 14:43 GMT
#119
That jacket looks pretty comfortable
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 27 2021 14:51 GMT
#120
I'm never covering group B of the Ro16 that features Best alongside the runner-up again, last season it was the same thing and I was literally wrong about everything.


WriterReV hwaiting!
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria485 Posts
April 27 2021 15:18 GMT
#121
Absolute champion performance by Best! Very good games!
music is the best thing in the world
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 27 2021 15:40 GMT
#122
On April 27 2021 23:42 weiliem wrote:
Happy for Best but he's gonna have to play much better to go further..... Its wierd seeing a Best who played amazing PvZ and bad PvT in the same day, is he Bisu?


Valid point, that looked like Bisu in today's PvTs.

Those army engagements were on point though, I don't think he lost one badly: he either traded or crushed the fight.
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia918 Posts
April 27 2021 16:36 GMT
#123
Best and Snow always had the issue where only one of [PvZ, PvT] their matchups is hot at any given moment.
Not unusual to see them play a lot vs one race in a tournament, produce great games, then lose to a different race player that they consistently beat in spons.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
April 27 2021 17:17 GMT
#124
Awesome group!

Excellent games

GGs
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LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
April 27 2021 23:03 GMT
#125
Concerned we might only get 1 zerg in the ro8

I am big on hero though I think he has a chance to go deep
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-28 02:39:10
April 28 2021 02:34 GMT
#126
Why the concern?

Last season had 4Z in QF, 3Z in SF, 2Z in Finals (and Z were being knocked out by other Z - except for Flash in 3rd/4th match placing).

The only interesting highlight for me during the entire elimination stage was Flash's random (and maybe soma's run from a narrative perspective). ZvZ is just plain boring (maybe it's an acquired taste). ZvP were just tragic smackdowns.

I'm looking forward for less Zerg in this ASL. That said, I have a feeling that Larva/Effort (or both!) will advance, and Zero will very likely hang on till SF at minimum (funny feeling is that he'll luck out with an ez QF draw given this season's unpredictability).

Ultimately, it would be nice to have diversity. But between two extremes, I would rather have a Zerg-free season of TvP and TvT (rather than a Zerg fiesta of ZvP and ZvZ).
gg no re thx
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13007 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 03:01:03
April 29 2021 02:59 GMT
#127
On April 28 2021 08:03 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Concerned we might only get 1 zerg in the ro8

I am big on hero though I think he has a chance to go deep

One of larva/effort, if not both, will get out of group c. Both too strong at ZvP.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 04:49:03
April 29 2021 04:48 GMT
#128
Both Groups A and B were like LOTR-style long epic battle films. I'm so glad that we have Bo3's for the Winner's/Loser's/Final matches.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 29 2021 05:11 GMT
#129
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.
May the BeSt man win.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 29 2021 10:51 GMT
#130
Could we add Nyoken's Twitter to the OP template? (mostly as a courtesy to him since some of his counterparts have links)
Thx!
ERSJ
Profile Joined October 2018
Sweden57 Posts
April 29 2021 11:00 GMT
#131
<3 Nyoken and Scan, definitely great
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 29 2021 14:07 GMT
#132
On April 29 2021 14:11 Djabanete wrote:
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.


I way prefer the OSL round robin bo1 format for the Ro16, I wish we had a tournament that still used it
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 17:26:49
April 29 2021 17:26 GMT
#133
On April 29 2021 23:07 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 14:11 Djabanete wrote:
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.


I way prefer the OSL round robin bo1 format for the Ro16, I wish we had a tournament that still used it

Hahah that was such a zany format! It always seemed odd to me that the fate of Player A often hinged on the outcome of Player B vs Player C. I remember someone making a "comic" out of photos of Flash and Jaedong from Fomos. They're both wearing fancy suits and Flash is explaining that even though he's down 0-2, he's still alive in the tournament --- he just needs Horang2 to beat Kal, and then Flash needs to win his third match, and then Flash needs to win the tiebreak match. And Jaedong is examining his cuff saying "Still, it is difficult for Horang2 to beat Kal..." (IRL he was probably saying "dang, I've never worn a suit before...")

Anyone still know where to find that?

Oh yeah and the tiebreaks. There was no way to guarantee that a 3-way tiebreak match couldn't go on until the end of time. The record was a tiebreak match that re-tied three times before getting broken on the fourth tiebreak, wasn't it?

Still, I can see the upside. Players had a LOT of time to prepare for each individual match. There wasn't a single Ro16 game where a player hadn't had a chance to craft a plan for that specific opponent on that specific map.
May the BeSt man win.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
April 29 2021 17:41 GMT
#134
On April 30 2021 02:26 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2021 23:07 Qikz wrote:
On April 29 2021 14:11 Djabanete wrote:
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.


I way prefer the OSL round robin bo1 format for the Ro16, I wish we had a tournament that still used it

Hahah that was such a zany format! It always seemed odd to me that the fate of Player A often hinged on the outcome of Player B vs Player C. I remember someone making a "comic" out of photos of Flash and Jaedong from Fomos. They're both wearing fancy suits and Flash is explaining that even though he's down 0-2, he's still alive in the tournament --- he just needs Horang2 to beat Kal, and then Flash needs to win his third match, and then Flash needs to win the tiebreak match. And Jaedong is examining his cuff saying "Still, it is difficult for Horang2 to beat Kal..." (IRL he was probably saying "dang, I've never worn a suit before...")

Anyone still know where to find that?

Oh yeah and the tiebreaks. There was no way to guarantee that a 3-way tiebreak match couldn't go on until the end of time. The record was a tiebreak match that re-tied three times before getting broken on the fourth tiebreak, wasn't it?

Still, I can see the upside. Players had a LOT of time to prepare for each individual match. There wasn't a single Ro16 game where a player hadn't had a chance to craft a plan for that specific opponent on that specific map.


Usually a "long time to plan a bo1" involved a cleverly crafted cheese. BO3 format seems a lot better, games were more similar to long games on KCM race wars
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-29 19:31:48
April 29 2021 19:26 GMT
#135
On April 30 2021 02:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2021 02:26 Djabanete wrote:
On April 29 2021 23:07 Qikz wrote:
On April 29 2021 14:11 Djabanete wrote:
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.


I way prefer the OSL round robin bo1 format for the Ro16, I wish we had a tournament that still used it

Hahah that was such a zany format! It always seemed odd to me that the fate of Player A often hinged on the outcome of Player B vs Player C. I remember someone making a "comic" out of photos of Flash and Jaedong from Fomos. They're both wearing fancy suits and Flash is explaining that even though he's down 0-2, he's still alive in the tournament --- he just needs Horang2 to beat Kal, and then Flash needs to win his third match, and then Flash needs to win the tiebreak match. And Jaedong is examining his cuff saying "Still, it is difficult for Horang2 to beat Kal..." (IRL he was probably saying "dang, I've never worn a suit before...")

Anyone still know where to find that?

Oh yeah and the tiebreaks. There was no way to guarantee that a 3-way tiebreak match couldn't go on until the end of time. The record was a tiebreak match that re-tied three times before getting broken on the fourth tiebreak, wasn't it?

Still, I can see the upside. Players had a LOT of time to prepare for each individual match. There wasn't a single Ro16 game where a player hadn't had a chance to craft a plan for that specific opponent on that specific map.


Usually a "long time to plan a bo1" involved a cleverly crafted cheese. BO3 format seems a lot better, games were more similar to long games on KCM race wars

I really enjoy cleverly crafted cheese strategies, but I don't enjoy seeing players go home disappointed after playing a single six-minute game. Bo3s give players more chances to show what they've prepared and to claw their way back after a loss, if they're able, so I'm with you on that.
May the BeSt man win.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
April 29 2021 19:42 GMT
#136
On April 30 2021 04:26 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2021 02:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
On April 30 2021 02:26 Djabanete wrote:
On April 29 2021 23:07 Qikz wrote:
On April 29 2021 14:11 Djabanete wrote:
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.


I way prefer the OSL round robin bo1 format for the Ro16, I wish we had a tournament that still used it

Hahah that was such a zany format! It always seemed odd to me that the fate of Player A often hinged on the outcome of Player B vs Player C. I remember someone making a "comic" out of photos of Flash and Jaedong from Fomos. They're both wearing fancy suits and Flash is explaining that even though he's down 0-2, he's still alive in the tournament --- he just needs Horang2 to beat Kal, and then Flash needs to win his third match, and then Flash needs to win the tiebreak match. And Jaedong is examining his cuff saying "Still, it is difficult for Horang2 to beat Kal..." (IRL he was probably saying "dang, I've never worn a suit before...")

Anyone still know where to find that?

Oh yeah and the tiebreaks. There was no way to guarantee that a 3-way tiebreak match couldn't go on until the end of time. The record was a tiebreak match that re-tied three times before getting broken on the fourth tiebreak, wasn't it?

Still, I can see the upside. Players had a LOT of time to prepare for each individual match. There wasn't a single Ro16 game where a player hadn't had a chance to craft a plan for that specific opponent on that specific map.


Usually a "long time to plan a bo1" involved a cleverly crafted cheese. BO3 format seems a lot better, games were more similar to long games on KCM race wars

I really enjoy cleverly crafted cheese strategies, but I don't enjoy seeing players go home disappointed after playing a single six-minute game. Bo3s give players more chances to show what they've prepared and to claw their way back after a loss, if they're able, so I'm with you on that.

bo3 DE all the way

it's obviously a better format
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-30 07:18:18
April 30 2021 07:14 GMT
#137
On April 30 2021 04:26 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2021 02:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
On April 30 2021 02:26 Djabanete wrote:
On April 29 2021 23:07 Qikz wrote:
On April 29 2021 14:11 Djabanete wrote:
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.


I way prefer the OSL round robin bo1 format for the Ro16, I wish we had a tournament that still used it

Hahah that was such a zany format! It always seemed odd to me that the fate of Player A often hinged on the outcome of Player B vs Player C. I remember someone making a "comic" out of photos of Flash and Jaedong from Fomos. They're both wearing fancy suits and Flash is explaining that even though he's down 0-2, he's still alive in the tournament --- he just needs Horang2 to beat Kal, and then Flash needs to win his third match, and then Flash needs to win the tiebreak match. And Jaedong is examining his cuff saying "Still, it is difficult for Horang2 to beat Kal..." (IRL he was probably saying "dang, I've never worn a suit before...")

Anyone still know where to find that?

Oh yeah and the tiebreaks. There was no way to guarantee that a 3-way tiebreak match couldn't go on until the end of time. The record was a tiebreak match that re-tied three times before getting broken on the fourth tiebreak, wasn't it?

Still, I can see the upside. Players had a LOT of time to prepare for each individual match. There wasn't a single Ro16 game where a player hadn't had a chance to craft a plan for that specific opponent on that specific map.


Usually a "long time to plan a bo1" involved a cleverly crafted cheese. BO3 format seems a lot better, games were more similar to long games on KCM race wars

I really enjoy cleverly crafted cheese strategies, but I don't enjoy seeing players go home disappointed after playing a single six-minute game. Bo3s give players more chances to show what they've prepared and to claw their way back after a loss, if they're able, so I'm with you on that.


prepare what? there are too many maps to prepare for and the selection is double blind, they don't have picks, only bans.

why do you think FS is even on the map map pool.
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-30 20:34:00
April 30 2021 20:30 GMT
#138
On April 30 2021 16:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2021 04:26 Djabanete wrote:
On April 30 2021 02:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
On April 30 2021 02:26 Djabanete wrote:
On April 29 2021 23:07 Qikz wrote:
On April 29 2021 14:11 Djabanete wrote:
BESSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Both Group A and Group B have been phenomenal. LOTR-style epic battles is right. Bo3 >>> the old OSL format.


I way prefer the OSL round robin bo1 format for the Ro16, I wish we had a tournament that still used it

Hahah that was such a zany format! It always seemed odd to me that the fate of Player A often hinged on the outcome of Player B vs Player C. I remember someone making a "comic" out of photos of Flash and Jaedong from Fomos. They're both wearing fancy suits and Flash is explaining that even though he's down 0-2, he's still alive in the tournament --- he just needs Horang2 to beat Kal, and then Flash needs to win his third match, and then Flash needs to win the tiebreak match. And Jaedong is examining his cuff saying "Still, it is difficult for Horang2 to beat Kal..." (IRL he was probably saying "dang, I've never worn a suit before...")

Anyone still know where to find that?

Oh yeah and the tiebreaks. There was no way to guarantee that a 3-way tiebreak match couldn't go on until the end of time. The record was a tiebreak match that re-tied three times before getting broken on the fourth tiebreak, wasn't it?

Still, I can see the upside. Players had a LOT of time to prepare for each individual match. There wasn't a single Ro16 game where a player hadn't had a chance to craft a plan for that specific opponent on that specific map.


Usually a "long time to plan a bo1" involved a cleverly crafted cheese. BO3 format seems a lot better, games were more similar to long games on KCM race wars

I really enjoy cleverly crafted cheese strategies, but I don't enjoy seeing players go home disappointed after playing a single six-minute game. Bo3s give players more chances to show what they've prepared and to claw their way back after a loss, if they're able, so I'm with you on that.


prepare what? there are too many maps to prepare for and the selection is double blind, they don't have picks, only bans.

why do you think FS is even on the map map pool.

Are you saying they don't prepare for their Ro16 matches? That would be crazy.

Sure, this format has a lot more uncertainty than the old OSL format, where you had a week or more (?) to prepare one game on one map against one opponent. In this ASL format, your first game is like that, and then you have back-to-back Bo3s; the first is against one of two possible opponents, and the second is against one of three possible opponents, and in each Bo3 you know that 3 out of 4 possible maps will come up. That's a lot of uncertainty, but also a lot of information on which to base strategies. Do correct me if I've misunderstood any part of the process.

I've struggled with stage nerves in my profession. I don't think I'm anomalous --- I don't fall apart under pressure, but I can only deliver 85--90% until I've had a chance to limber up. Many seasoned performers are the same way. (Sharp was definitely nervous against Shuttle in ASL S1 finals. Heck, Sharp even built a double ebay against Best in this series. Jangbi misplaced his forge against Luxury in the MSL finals, and Jangbi is a boss. One of my professional mentors has won a world competition and said he was literally shaking at the start.) Some people can deliver 98% as soon as they're on the stage, but very few people are at 100% from the very start. Jaedong may be. You need to give people a few minutes or you won't see their 100%. So I don't like Bo1s as a way of eliminating players. The feeling of going home after 5 minutes of underperforming is just the worst.

Naturally, overcoming nerves is part of being a progamer. If it's too big a problem for you, you just won't get far. Supposedly that's Jaehoon's deal. But as a spectator who enjoys seeing great SCBW, I want to see people get in the zone and play well. I don't want a format that *specifically selects* for people who are 100% from the get-go and punishes the others, because there are just too many other skills I'd rather select for. Any day, I'll take a format where someone who can do 95% from the get-go has a decent chance to advance.

Of course, I don't mind a format where you know in advance exactly who your opponent is and what maps you'll play on. The GSL format (the BW GSL that Jaedong/Bisu/Flash won) was like that, as you recall, with no groups, just single elimination in a BoX. That was a good format too.
May the BeSt man win.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
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Last Edited: 2021-04-30 20:50:16
April 30 2021 20:48 GMT
#139
These guys have played these maps probably hundreds of times in the past two months through sponsored games. They know them very well already.

If anything, the BO1 incentivizes them to keep a good build for each map from each other and bust that out in tournament play.

Soma right now has the best online results out of any BW player and he got eliminated. Outlines how open the field really is in a Flash-less tournament. The format wouldn't change that very much.

The format is always designed to fit in the broadcast not the other way around.

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May 02 2021 19:21 GMT
#140
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
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May 04 2021 08:07 GMT
#141
Seems like Sharp played 2 tactically excellent games against Best. Shame that the 3rd map of the final matchup is a TvP graveyard
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-04 12:19:01
May 04 2021 12:15 GMT
#142
FlaSh being God again by predicting that JyJ is the future of terran because he played like he was on steroids. What a masterful TvT! Destroying best 2nd zerg SoMa and dismantling Sharp who is in form? Who could expect him to come this far.
Get rekt SoMa, your winrate this season is 0%.
Pros who said Sharp is one of the "tasty meat" on group ceremony must be ashamed right now. Sharp's vulture control and mine placement were superb against BeSt! And he proved it in first and final games. But I never expected that BeSt is going to win two last games, especially that 2nd game it was incredible! He's still looking sexy please BeSt, win an ASL, it's about time!!!
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Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
May 05 2021 05:54 GMT
#143
On May 04 2021 21:15 outscar wrote:
FlaSh being God again by predicting that JyJ is the future of terran because he played like he was on steroids. What a masterful TvT! Destroying best 2nd zerg SoMa and dismantling Sharp who is in form? Who could expect him to come this far.
Get rekt SoMa, your winrate this season is 0%.
Pros who said Sharp is one of the "tasty meat" on group ceremony must be ashamed right now. Sharp's vulture control and mine placement were superb against BeSt! And he proved it in first and final games. But I never expected that BeSt is going to win two last games, especially that 2nd game it was incredible! He's still looking sexy please BeSt, win an ASL, it's about time!!!

I just want to say that a lot of the things the players say in the group selection are in a very joking manner. You can't take it too seriously Of course they know that Sharp is a great player. Just like in MMA fights or boxing matches etc they do some trash talk for fun to get people hyped for the games. I'm sure in reality all of the players who are still playing brood war at this level have a lot of respect for each other.

I agree with you about Best, he seems better than he's ever looked, but I think it's going to be very very difficult. I wish him the best though
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-05 07:23:43
May 05 2021 07:21 GMT
#144
On May 04 2021 21:15 outscar wrote:
FlaSh being God again by predicting that JyJ is the future of terran because he played like he was on steroids. What a masterful TvT! Destroying best 2nd zerg SoMa and dismantling Sharp who is in form? Who could expect him to come this far.
Get rekt SoMa, your winrate this season is 0%.
Pros who said Sharp is one of the "tasty meat" on group ceremony must be ashamed right now. Sharp's vulture control and mine placement were superb against BeSt! And he proved it in first and final games. But I never expected that BeSt is going to win two last games, especially that 2nd game it was incredible! He's still looking sexy please BeSt, win an ASL, it's about time!!!


Best prob has 5% equity to win, but that would go up substantially if JyJ is able to beat zero
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