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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12055 Posts
March 04 2019 13:40 GMT
#41
On March 04 2019 02:12 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2019 01:20 oxKnu wrote:
Maybe they're testing the waters for an actual tournament?


Well if we are lucky and Blizzard pulls out of Starcraft like they did out of Heroes, that 100k fee might go down as well. I'm pretty sure OGN would be more inclined to try a tournament again if it wasn't so super expensive to get the license from Blizz.


Blizzard pulling out of StarCraft would be way worse for the scene.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 05 2019 04:29 GMT
#42
I know some of you guys prefer to have an english cast so I tried my hand at casting these games because why not? First time casting a pro series so some pauses here and there to collect my thoughts or wait to see what goes down. Probably a couple of silly mistakes too due to speed. Feedback is welcome!

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Zaibakk
Profile Joined May 2017
101 Posts
March 07 2019 12:12 GMT
#43
Thank you BigFan! Nice casting!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 07 2019 16:21 GMT
#44
Thanks!
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 07 2019 20:27 GMT
#45
On March 03 2019 06:01 Garrl wrote:
that first game especially felt honestly depressing, I know it's a showmatch but the fact that Flash felt comfortable building BCs in a TvZ is like, on par with BM scouts. JD also looked pretty despondent when they showed him on camera during games.


Uhh...BCs are pretty common with Bio terran, especially when terran is a comfortable relative position gaswise. Very gas expensive for zerg to deal with, and deal damage if Z isn't prepared. Scouts you never get out of them what you put in unless you get super, super fortunate. BCs are very easy to be gas effective, and really take away from the ultra count.

I'm sure it's tough for JD to go from being right there with Flash to a upper middle tier zerg, especially since it's not like he went inactive. His body just kinda failed him. That's never easy.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 07 2019 20:31 GMT
#46
Indeed. BCs are seeing a lot more usage nowadays and in the last year at least with players like Light making them a lot more in the late game. Also, 2 BCs require quite the resource investment and attention from a Zerg player to manage.
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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
March 07 2019 21:58 GMT
#47
BCs being more common these days doesn't mean that wasn't a depressing game though.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 07 2019 22:43 GMT
#48
On March 08 2019 06:58 errol1001 wrote:
BCs being more common these days doesn't mean that wasn't a depressing game though.

I don't believe L_Master was saying otherwise for a JD fan, but the idea that building BCs is like using scouts is far from reality since BCs have their uses as previously outlined while for scouts, their purposes more times than not is to BM.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
March 08 2019 00:26 GMT
#49
Ironically, BCs (the most expensive unit in the game ... well Carrier plus Interceptors is technically more but close enough) and Cracklings (the cheapest unit in the game) share the property of being "fire and forget" units in late game that cause your opponent way more trouble to deal with than the effort required to cause that trouble.

Two BCs can just be sent to a Zerg base and be super annoying.

Random control groups of Cracklings can be thrown around the map (e.g. on Circuit Breaker, the Mineral only bases are basically just free Crackling farms). They'll cause lots of damage if not responded to quickly.
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
March 08 2019 03:15 GMT
#50
On March 08 2019 07:43 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2019 06:58 errol1001 wrote:
BCs being more common these days doesn't mean that wasn't a depressing game though.

I don't believe L_Master was saying otherwise for a JD fan, but the idea that building BCs is like using scouts is far from reality since BCs have their uses as previously outlined while for scouts, their purposes more times than not is to BM.


I agree.

I think the observer is part of why at this point, the game felt depressing to me. Because once the cruisers go in, theoretically, Flash should be using that time to do something else... but the observer just stared at the battlecruisers the whole time.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
March 08 2019 03:51 GMT
#51
Well looks like in the past few offline matches the skill discrepancy between JD and Flash has been widening and they aren't on par with each other anymore.
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