[ASL6] Ro24 Group C - Page 8

On September 07 2018 05:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Players are critiqued based on expectations and how they perform in relation to their peers. Professional football players have terrible games sometimes, but even their terrible performance is better than the possible top performance of 99.9% of people criticizing them.

That said I didn't really mind movie's final game. The attack towards 12 was dumb. But losing an arbiter to a turret can happen to anyone. I've played this game semi-competitively for like, most of the past 20 years, and I can tell you one thing; the game you play from your own perspective always looks a whole lot better than from an observer's perspective. Even when I've had the feeling 'man, I played really well that game', if I watch the cast, or a replay of the game, I end up thinking 'damn, I kinda sucked that game' because suddenly all the mistakes I made are put on display. The observers don't catch everything also, very frequently there's some skirmish detracting the attention of a player which makes the player lose focus of what is happening on the actual screen. This is the beauty of bw; with the exception of Flash, all players make significant mistakes in every single game.

The not building a forge against the dt, that's on another level, akin to the not upgrading 3-2 melee/carapace in group A for 10 minutes. But at least here, I can see how maybe he actually tried to start building the forge, but maybe a probe got in the way, or he started a goon which made his resources go down to 146 right before the forge was about to start, or whatever, and then he didn't go back to his base for 40 seconds because he was busy microing his attack, and then he's like oh my god I didn't start the forge. Or whatever. The game is amazingly chaotic and unintended stuff happens all the time.

Now, if upon noticing that dts were attacking his units he actually thought 'I'm gonna counter-dt rush 3 minutes later than him and make cannons in some weird place', then he's a total idiot worthy of all the derision in the world, but I find that very unlikely.

On September 07 2018 09:05 BigFan wrote:
Folks are free to criticize the gameplay of the players such as Movie's late forge in his game vs Best and 2 cannons on some random base, Movie losing an arbiter to a turret, Movie attacking Mind's fourth base through a choke, Mind's isolation of his army or Sacsri not noticing the dt which cleaned up two bases etc... However, it is absolutely unacceptable to attack them personally, question their intelligence or throw matchfixing allegations around, as if these players need some dirt thrown on them.

Matchfixing allegations on TL are taken very seriously and are actionable regardless of who posted the comment. Please don't make such allegations and remember that all players, well, except Flash, seem to have good and bad days. In this case, there is likely some reasons for Movie's decisions which may not be apparent to observers who have complete vision of the game.

Was Movie and Mind's performance disappointing? For sure. Movie was a top players during the Sonic era and is an OSL finalist. We know he is much more capable than what he showed today, however, he also came back to BW with ASL5 and has had his focus switch from purely BW to other things as implied in the pre-game interview. Only he know if he'll ever return to his previous form. As for Mind, his TvP is really inconsistent and for whatever reason, micro seemed to be non-existent in his Autobahn game today, but at least he made the Ro16 and he usually shows better games later on.

On September 07 2018 05:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Players are critiqued based on expectations and how they perform in relation to their peers. Professional football players have terrible games sometimes, but even their terrible performance is better than the possible top performance of 99.9% of people criticizing them.

That said I didn't really mind movie's final game. The attack towards 12 was dumb. But losing an arbiter to a turret can happen to anyone. I've played this game semi-competitively for like, most of the past 20 years, and I can tell you one thing; the game you play from your own perspective always looks a whole lot better than from an observer's perspective. Even when I've had the feeling 'man, I played really well that game', if I watch the cast, or a replay of the game, I end up thinking 'damn, I kinda sucked that game' because suddenly all the mistakes I made are put on display. The observers don't catch everything also, very frequently there's some skirmish detracting the attention of a player which makes the player lose focus of what is happening on the actual screen. This is the beauty of bw; with the exception of Flash, all players make significant mistakes in every single game.

The not building a forge against the dt, that's on another level, akin to the not upgrading 3-2 melee/carapace in group A for 10 minutes. But at least here, I can see how maybe he actually tried to start building the forge, but maybe a probe got in the way, or he started a goon which made his resources go down to 146 right before the forge was about to start, or whatever, and then he didn't go back to his base for 40 seconds because he was busy microing his attack, and then he's like oh my god I didn't start the forge. Or whatever. The game is amazingly chaotic and unintended stuff happens all the time.

Now, if upon noticing that dts were attacking his units he actually thought 'I'm gonna counter-dt rush 3 minutes later than him and make cannons in some weird place', then he's a total idiot worthy of all the derision in the world, but I find that very unlikely.