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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
September 06 2018 11:52 GMT
#101
killer troop by mind, goind for the kill
BW is back
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
September 06 2018 11:53 GMT
#102
movie is just rolling over and dying, gg
BW is back
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
September 06 2018 11:54 GMT
#103
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Really? (16)
 
76%

No (4)
 
19%

Yes (1)
 
5%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Really?

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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
September 06 2018 11:54 GMT
#104
that was really bad, movie is such a low tier player nowadays
no surprises on group C
BW is back
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8541 Posts
September 06 2018 11:54 GMT
#105
On September 06 2018 20:49 TT1 wrote:
looks like both mind and movie got paid to throw this game, this is just atrocious gameplay


Mind didn't play too bad imho. Nothing spectacular but solid. That first push also wasn't that bad. Yes movie cleaned that up rather handily in the end but he killed quite a few probes on that push.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 11:55:22
September 06 2018 11:54 GMT
#106
Good to see a ok game tonight. Though I was worried after that first push by mind got stomped. Not sure what Movie was thinking when he first tried to push into Minds top center base.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
September 06 2018 11:55 GMT
#107
Movies games were so dodgy today:
-Makes no detection when he sees DTs and loses
-Doesn't make interceptor upgrade
-Rams head first into 12, tries to break it repeatedly when 1500 mmr players know that its a shit attack
-Morphs his storms into archons
-Etc..
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
September 06 2018 11:58 GMT
#108
Bad game from Movie. A shame when we know what he's capable of. Well, BeSt and Mind advance as expected.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Oya187
Profile Joined May 2018
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 12:03:18
September 06 2018 11:59 GMT
#109
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing laying on your couch at home relaxed and thus know the answers on what to do, doesn't mean the players who are in the heat of the moment automatically knows what you know.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
September 06 2018 12:03 GMT
#110
On September 06 2018 20:59 Oya187 wrote:
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing and thus know the answers on what to do that doesn't mean the players know.

No one said "I'd have done better". It's just frustrating to see Movie playing way below his true level.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
September 06 2018 12:04 GMT
#111
On September 06 2018 20:59 Oya187 wrote:
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing laying on your couch at home relaxed and thus know the answers on what to do, doesn't mean the players who are in the heat of the moment automatically knows what you know.

Yea but we haven't played starcraft professionally before nor do we spend most of our spare time playing this game

We also haven't qualified for ASL
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 12:25:27
September 06 2018 12:06 GMT
#112
On September 06 2018 20:54 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 20:49 TT1 wrote:
looks like both mind and movie got paid to throw this game, this is just atrocious gameplay


Mind didn't play too bad imho. Nothing spectacular but solid. That first push also wasn't that bad. Yes movie cleaned that up rather handily in the end but he killed quite a few probes on that push.


Mind should have won the game with his 1st move out, instead of hunting down p's army and constantly reinforcing his own army he decided to ignore it and hit his 3rd. That's such a cringe worthy rookie mistake to make, you're letting p cut off reinforcements and he can just re-engage with his units from the top.. he basically isolated his army for no reason when he had the opportunity to do the exact same thing to P. What should have ended up being a game ending push became a favorable trade for Movie.

After that he proceeds to get supply blocked for like 2 mins like he always does (on 160, he also got supply blocked vs Sacsri on 92 and floated 1.1k on 2bases) which made him float up to 3k mins when he wasnt even maxed. When Movie decided to throw his entire army at 12 (god knows why) he went up to 4k mins.

A few mins later, he moves out and sees p has carriers, instead of taking every expo on the map (cus hes floating a shitton of mins with no gas) he decides to take a single expo bot right, he even had an SCV sitting at 3oclock forever. That was beyond terrible play by both players, at least Mind got a good EMP off on Movie's 1st arb, that's the only good thing he did that game.

Let's not even talk about Movie.. his game vs BeSt is a perfect summary of his play tonight.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Oya187
Profile Joined May 2018
50 Posts
September 06 2018 12:07 GMT
#113
On September 06 2018 21:04 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 20:59 Oya187 wrote:
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing laying on your couch at home relaxed and thus know the answers on what to do, doesn't mean the players who are in the heat of the moment automatically knows what you know.

Yea but we haven't played starcraft professionally before nor do we spend most of our spare time playing this game

We also haven't qualified for ASL


Exactly my point, I rest my case.
Sd13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Vietnam186 Posts
September 06 2018 12:16 GMT
#114
On September 06 2018 20:59 Oya187 wrote:
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing laying on your couch at home relaxed and thus know the answers on what to do, doesn't mean the players who are in the heat of the moment automatically knows what you know.

People are not judging the players, they are not saying Movie is bad and they are better. They are giving opinion as spectator who have followed the game, understand the caliber of the players on the stage and give analysis based on that. They are saying Movie played badly not in comparison to their own performances but in comparison to other Protoss players performing in the same stage as well like Best, Stork, Rain, or even Movie' own performance in prior matches, leagues. He under-performed and did not show what he could have shown, that's what the comment is about. Think of them as objective criticism instead of flaming/ slandering the player.
정명훈 \m/
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
September 06 2018 12:18 GMT
#115
On September 06 2018 21:06 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 20:54 Miragee wrote:
On September 06 2018 20:49 TT1 wrote:
looks like both mind and movie got paid to throw this game, this is just atrocious gameplay


Mind didn't play too bad imho. Nothing spectacular but solid. That first push also wasn't that bad. Yes movie cleaned that up rather handily in the end but he killed quite a few probes on that push.


Mind should have won the game with his 1st move out, instead of hunting down p's army he decided to ignore it and hit his 3rd. That's such a cringe worthy rookie mistake to make, you're letting p cut off reinforcements and he can just re-engage with his units from the top.. he basically isolated his army for no reason when he had the opportunity to do the exact opposite to P.

After that he proceeds to get supply blocked for like 2 mins like he always does (on 160, he also got supply blocked vs Sacsri on 92 and floated 1.1k on 2bases) which made him float up to 3k mins when he wasnt even maxed. When Movie decided to throw his entire army at 12 (god knows why) he went up to 4k mins.

A few mins later, he moves out and sees p has carriers, instead of taking every expo on the map (cus hes floating a shitton of mins with no gas) he decides to take a single expo bot right, he even had an SCV sitting at 3oclock forever. That was beyond terrible play by both players, at least Mind got a good EMP off on Movie's 1st arb, that's the only good thing he did that game.


Yeah I did notice Mind floating minerals both times. I wish the casters could have called stuff like that, Tastosis included.

Definitely something off about today's games, and I don't mean matchfixing. But I definitely haven't seen a progamer make that many series in a day before. Having no detection long after DTs were out, parking an arbiter over a turret, attacking without Stasis, and finally not having the interceptor upgrade were shocking to witness.
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3119 Posts
September 06 2018 12:33 GMT
#116
On September 06 2018 21:07 Oya187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 21:04 Motivate wrote:
On September 06 2018 20:59 Oya187 wrote:
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing laying on your couch at home relaxed and thus know the answers on what to do, doesn't mean the players who are in the heat of the moment automatically knows what you know.

Yea but we haven't played starcraft professionally before nor do we spend most of our spare time playing this game

We also haven't qualified for ASL


Exactly my point, I rest my case.


If you don't like people talking about the games maybe you should head elsewhere.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Oya187
Profile Joined May 2018
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 15:23:45
September 06 2018 12:48 GMT
#117
On September 06 2018 21:33 NoS-Craig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 21:07 Oya187 wrote:
On September 06 2018 21:04 Motivate wrote:
On September 06 2018 20:59 Oya187 wrote:
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing laying on your couch at home relaxed and thus know the answers on what to do, doesn't mean the players who are in the heat of the moment automatically knows what you know.

Yea but we haven't played starcraft professionally before nor do we spend most of our spare time playing this game

We also haven't qualified for ASL


Exactly my point, I rest my case.


If you don't like people talking about the games maybe you should head elsewhere.


Talking about the games and constantly bitchin' about what terrible players in this case Sacsri and Movie are is two completely different things. And I love that the people that actually know the least always has the most to say. We already have two experts Tastosis/RAPiD commenting and talking about the games pointing out everything which is enough. No need to have a bunch of wannabe experts rant on what mistakes were made and how terrible they were when the fact is that you probably can't even make a proper split to begin with. Just enjoy the games. Dont hate, appreciate.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 13:07:25
September 06 2018 13:06 GMT
#118
I'll keep enjoying the games as always. I'll also keep posting like everyone else. No need to go psycho on me. These threads have always been like this. If the commentators are enough for you then maybe don't bother with the thread in the first place if you're so touchy.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Sokokrey
Profile Joined January 2018
74 Posts
September 06 2018 13:29 GMT
#119
what a threw by movie again, i'm pretty sure that he is the new match fixer

User was warned for this post
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
September 06 2018 13:35 GMT
#120
On September 06 2018 21:48 Oya187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 21:33 NoS-Craig wrote:
On September 06 2018 21:07 Oya187 wrote:
On September 06 2018 21:04 Motivate wrote:
On September 06 2018 20:59 Oya187 wrote:
Lol, who are you to judge these players? You guys talk an awful lot from the observer perspective, it's easy to know what the perfect play is when you are just a spectator. I would like to see every one of you bashing Movie going up on that stage and playing the best game of your life and not do a single mistake. Pffft, keep in mind that just because you see the whole map and see what both of them are doing laying on your couch at home relaxed and thus know the answers on what to do, doesn't mean the players who are in the heat of the moment automatically knows what you know.

Yea but we haven't played starcraft professionally before nor do we spend most of our spare time playing this game

We also haven't qualified for ASL


Exactly my point, I rest my case.


If you don't like people talking about the games maybe you should head elsewhere.


Talking about the games and constantly bitchin' about what terrible players in this example Sacsri and Movie are is two completely different things. And I love that the people that actually know the least always has the most to say. We already have two experts Tastosis/RAPiD commenting and talking about the games pointing out everything which is enough. No need to have a bunch of wannabe experts rant on what mistakes were made and how terrible they were when the fact is that you probably can't even make a proper split to begin with. Just enjoy the games. Dont hate, appreciate.

It's quite hard to enjoy terrible games :/ recommended games polls just show the quality of games played.

On the bright side, the rest of groups look promising. Also RO16 will be stacked!
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