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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6757 Posts
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ilovemmy
Italy30 Posts
On October 02 2017 08:26 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: What about getting the real new bloody ridge ? I've got the map from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/460_New_Bloody_Ridge Is that incorrect ? | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6757 Posts
On October 02 2017 08:33 ilovemmy wrote: I've got the map from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/460_New_Bloody_Ridge Is that incorrect ? if you check the vods of that link u will see there is a difference,i for example never did play that version we re using in the italian qual,i dont know if this version is a 2017 update from a foreigner mapmaker and non one did mention the changes or just a mistake from tl,in any case that map is different from the one used for years in tournaments and proleague. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On October 02 2017 08:24 ilovemmy wrote: If someone by mistake creates the wrong map and also the opponent doesn't notice, proceeding to start and finish the game I would take that as both of them accepted to play on that map. Considering valid the result. However I agree with you that there's some inconsistency in the rules regarding this aspect and it will be fixed. Also if you guys have any other feedback and / or suggestion to share you are more than welcome to do so.  I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say... It fair to assume that both players have checked the exact version of the map and therefore, they are considered to have agreed to play it Yet, it's unfair to DQ both players for shared responsibility of playing an illegal map because they might not be aware that it's an illegal map? Is that right? | ||
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ilovemmy
Italy30 Posts
On October 02 2017 09:22 Eywa- wrote: I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say... It fair to assume that both players have checked the exact version of the map and therefore, they are considered to have agreed to play it Yet, it's unfair to DQ both players for shared responsibility of playing an illegal map because they might not be aware that it's an illegal map? Is that right? Yes that's correct, any dispute should arise in the lobby and / or during the early stage of the game. Not after finishing the match. I think that would be unfair to DQ both of them for something that they didn't in purpose. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On October 02 2017 09:55 ilovemmy wrote: Yes that's correct, any dispute should arise in the lobby and / or during the early stage of the game. Not after finishing the match. I think that would be unfair to DQ both of them for something that they didn't in purpose. Well, if it's viewed as a mistake, then it can't also be viewed as consent. That's the point I'm trying to make... | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6757 Posts
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
https://m.blog.naver.com/daum1313/30186963886 i couldnt find any other difference in 5 mins. liquipedia only lists new bloody ridge 2.0 | ||
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ilovemmy
Italy30 Posts
On October 02 2017 16:10 Bakuryu wrote: new bloody ridge 2.1 is the newest version which has a smaller main entrance compared to 2.0 https://m.blog.naver.com/daum1313/30186963886 i couldnt find any other difference in 5 mins. liquipedia only lists new bloody ridge 2.0 Yeah I managed also to find the 2.1 version. Which has only the entrance different. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/x6K3cfF.jpg) I will ask to get that replaced on the map pack. @eonzerg, about the bug on the left corner that's really weird. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On October 02 2017 11:36 Eywa- wrote: Well, if it's viewed as a mistake, then it can't also be viewed as consent. That's the point I'm trying to make... No admin can join every game before it starts and re-check every small detail. At some point the players are required to do that yourself. If no player involved realizes beforehand, it usually is a mistake by both, yet both agree to play the map, even if the consent is done out of ignorance: If one had a problem, he would have noticed (especially in the case of a map version that is indicated by the map name). Cases like the one for tacz is rare and the admin has to call the shot. If anyone should be able to comment about it, it should be tacz, bonyth and the admins, not random bystanders. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On October 02 2017 19:54 GeckoXp wrote: No admin can join every game before it starts and re-check every small detail. At some point the players are required to do that yourself. If no player involved realizes beforehand, it usually is a mistake by both, yet both agree to play the map, even if the consent is done out of ignorance: If one had a problem, he would have noticed (especially in the case of a map version that is indicated by the map name). Cases like the one for tacz is rare and the admin has to call the shot. If anyone should be able to comment about it, it should be tacz, bonyth and the admins, not random bystanders. Given the discussions (or lack thereof) you've had with both players about the issue, you're the random bystander here. It's fine though, I've said what I have to say. 1) A bad map should never be counted as the result 2) The decision should never be put on the players | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2041 Posts
Example @ 5:29: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/79318_sOs_vs_ZerO/vod | ||
HaN-
France1920 Posts
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HsDLTitich
Italy830 Posts
BTW, big announcement! Here are the first two invites to the LAN ![[image loading]](https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22154640_10155851856249225_3817696825596698806_n.png?oh=335c35ff9bd90c55f98c81e6d585f871&oe=5A401F62) https://www.facebook.com/ESLItalia/photos/a.10150166655289225.339899.361887749224/10155851856249225/?type=3 | ||
Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6757 Posts
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GTR
51497 Posts
On October 04 2017 20:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: oh man they are inviting some imba Terran from Korea :D and his name? lim yo hwan + Show Spoiler + haha i wish | ||
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NeV
Italy370 Posts
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jamesz
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