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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2036 Posts
December 19 2016 07:35 GMT
#101
Avalon is a terrible map. Please switch with anything else.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10125 Posts
December 19 2016 07:46 GMT
#102
On December 19 2016 16:35 kogeT wrote:
Avalon is a terrible map. Please switch with anything else.

I just lost allrespect for you. NO ONE DARE INSULTS OUR HOLY AVALON
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
December 19 2016 10:26 GMT
#103
Looking at it from a basic map diversity point of view...

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[image loading]


... there is a complete lack of a reverse map and a relative lack of three player maps in the current pool...
v1
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Estonia785 Posts
December 19 2016 10:43 GMT
#104
Please, pick R-Point :D!
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Minkzilla
Profile Joined September 2013
United States17 Posts
December 20 2016 01:58 GMT
#105
On December 19 2016 19:26 Freakling wrote:
Looking at it from a basic map diversity point of view...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


... there is a complete lack of a reverse map and a relative lack of three player maps in the current pool...


That is a good point, there should probably be a couple. 3 v 4 or 2 player maps I feel like doesnt matter as much though. I'm a noob though so I don't know much. diversity is definitely good though
I'm Batman!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10125 Posts
December 20 2016 08:27 GMT
#106
On December 19 2016 19:26 Freakling wrote:
Looking at it from a basic map diversity point of view...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


... there is a complete lack of a reverse map and a relative lack of three player maps in the current pool...

Outsider baby lets bring it back. Or for super diverse, bring back both Longinus and Neo Aztec.

Neo Jade is a good reverse ramper, dont know about the 2 player maps with reverse ramps.
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noname_
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
456 Posts
December 20 2016 11:41 GMT
#107
On December 19 2016 16:35 kogeT wrote:
Avalon is a terrible map. Please switch with anything else.

+1

On December 19 2016 19:43 v1 wrote:
Please, pick R-Point :D!

+1. Why not?

Or Reverse Temple. I`d like Geometry the most though :D.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States906 Posts
December 23 2016 06:53 GMT
#108
If you want reverse ramps, anything wrong with Byzantium?
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
December 25 2016 04:40 GMT
#109
Hi -

As you mention, A- and higher only, will there be a bypass for someone who fish ladders only?

For example, someone who gets D on Fish is even higher than Olympic in icc standards. If a player like that shows proof, can he play?

I'm assuming that such respect would be shown to players who play fish and don't waste time on icc.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
December 25 2016 05:25 GMT
#110
Hi Bisudagger, I know its Christmas and all, but keep us updated. I want to throw more money at this event :-D
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Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland553 Posts
December 29 2016 22:55 GMT
#111
On December 25 2016 13:40 ProtossGG wrote:
Hi -

As you mention, A- and higher only, will there be a bypass for someone who fish ladders only?

For example, someone who gets D on Fish is even higher than Olympic in icc standards. If a player like that shows proof, can he play?

I'm assuming that such respect would be shown to players who play fish and don't waste time on icc.


I suppose you might be one of the exceptions, but here you are. Certainly u're capable of killing even very top foreigners, yet you are not so known for your skill.
So in regards of Fish server, anyone who gets, let's say, at least 1300 points at Fish (which is middle E rank) should be considered as a player of great skill.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
December 30 2016 00:05 GMT
#112
Ill add important updates tomorrow regarding maps, signups, and answer everyones questions.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
December 30 2016 18:32 GMT
#113
On December 30 2016 07:55 Bonyth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2016 13:40 ProtossGG wrote:
Hi -

As you mention, A- and higher only, will there be a bypass for someone who fish ladders only?

For example, someone who gets D on Fish is even higher than Olympic in icc standards. If a player like that shows proof, can he play?

I'm assuming that such respect would be shown to players who play fish and don't waste time on icc.


I suppose you might be one of the exceptions, but here you are. Certainly u're capable of killing even very top foreigners, yet you are not so known for your skill.
So in regards of Fish server, anyone who gets, let's say, at least 1300 points at Fish (which is middle E rank) should be considered as a player of great skill.


Actually - In my opinion, someone who can even maintain 1175 over, let's say, 40 games even, should be allowed.

Obvioulsy it's hard to set a strict rule - but as you know, Bonyth, 1300 is FAR FAR greater than A- in iccup terms.

That will be up to admins to decide and figure out a fair ruling. But in all actuality, maintaining 1000 on fish over 50 games is probably A- lol. Anyways, this isn't meant to be a discussion on icc to fish translation so let's not go into that argument.

We will leave it to BisuDagger. Thanks.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-31 12:43:09
December 31 2016 01:31 GMT
#114
Registration
Registration for the first Fight Club begins January 7th. There will be a separate news thread created to remind everyone. Selection for the first two contenders will be announced on the 17th.

Who qualifies:
The selection of via a random drawing. After selecting a name, I will be verifying the following criteria: That you are A- and above ranked based on ICCUP standing. If you only play on Fish, but believe you are rated high enough to be A-rated please register. If your name is selected, my committee will research your credentials and make a determination on whether it is equivalent or above an A-rating. I will not share the details of this process, but I assure you it will be fair.

Map Rules: To be clear, a map can only be played once. Reigning champion always picks the first map. The loser after each game picks a new map from the list below. Please share your thoughts on the changes.

Old Map Lineup
+ Show Spoiler +
Avalon
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Eye of the Storm
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Overwatch (foreign map)
Pathfinder
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map)


New Map Lineup
Korean Maps:
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Demian
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Pathfinder

Foreign Maps:
Overwatch
(3)Reap the Storm
(4)Kiseyras


Change:
Avalon out, (3)Reap the Storm in
Eye of the Storm out, Demian in
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map) out, Kiseyras in

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Minkzilla
Profile Joined September 2013
United States17 Posts
December 31 2016 06:17 GMT
#115
On December 31 2016 10:31 BisuDagger wrote:
Registration
Registration for the first Fight Club begins January 7th. There will be a separate news thread created to remind everyone. Selection for the first two contenders will be announced on the 17th.

Who qualifies:
The selection of via a random drawing. After selecting a name, I will be verifying the following criteria: That you are A- and above ranked based on ICCUP standing. If you only play on Fish, but believe you are rated high enough to be A-rated please register. If your name is selected, my committee will research your credentials and make a determination on whether it is equivalent or above an A-rating. I will not share the details of this process, but I assure you it will be fair.

Map Rules: To be clear, a map can only be played once. Reigning champion always picks the first map. The loser after each game picks a new map from the list below. Please share your thoughts on the changes.

Old Map Lineup
+ Show Spoiler +
Avalon
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Eye of the Storm
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Overwatch (foreign map)
Pathfinder
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map)


New Map Lineup
Korean Maps:
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Demian
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Pathfinder

Foreign Maps:
Overwatch
(3)Reap the Storm
(4)Kiseyras


Change:
Avalon out, (3)Reap the Storm in
Eye of the Storm, Demian in
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map) out, Kiseyras in



Sad to see Avalon go. Other than that though, everything looks great. Super excited for these games to get under way! Thanks again for organizing all of this!
I'm Batman!
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
December 31 2016 14:18 GMT
#116
On December 31 2016 10:31 BisuDagger wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Registration
Registration for the first Fight Club begins January 7th. There will be a separate news thread created to remind everyone. Selection for the first two contenders will be announced on the 17th.

Who qualifies:
The selection of via a random drawing. After selecting a name, I will be verifying the following criteria: That you are A- and above ranked based on ICCUP standing. If you only play on Fish, but believe you are rated high enough to be A-rated please register. If your name is selected, my committee will research your credentials and make a determination on whether it is equivalent or above an A-rating. I will not share the details of this process, but I assure you it will be fair.

Map Rules: To be clear, a map can only be played once. Reigning champion always picks the first map. The loser after each game picks a new map from the list below. Please share your thoughts on the changes.

Old Map Lineup
+ Show Spoiler +
Avalon
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Eye of the Storm
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Overwatch (foreign map)
Pathfinder
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map)


New Map Lineup
Korean Maps:
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Demian
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Pathfinder

Foreign Maps:
Overwatch
(3)Reap the Storm
(4)Kiseyras


Change:
Avalon out, (3)Reap the Storm in
Eye of the Storm out, Demian in
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map) out, Kiseyras in


Just out of curiosity, is there a reason the mains on (3)Reap the Storm are so tiny? I mean especially on 10 o'clock as T you can just barely fit 9 facs and all the other stuff in, if you align everything very neatly.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-31 15:11:36
December 31 2016 15:06 GMT
#117
On December 31 2016 23:18 Cryoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 10:31 BisuDagger wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Registration
Registration for the first Fight Club begins January 7th. There will be a separate news thread created to remind everyone. Selection for the first two contenders will be announced on the 17th.

Who qualifies:
The selection of via a random drawing. After selecting a name, I will be verifying the following criteria: That you are A- and above ranked based on ICCUP standing. If you only play on Fish, but believe you are rated high enough to be A-rated please register. If your name is selected, my committee will research your credentials and make a determination on whether it is equivalent or above an A-rating. I will not share the details of this process, but I assure you it will be fair.

Map Rules: To be clear, a map can only be played once. Reigning champion always picks the first map. The loser after each game picks a new map from the list below. Please share your thoughts on the changes.

Old Map Lineup
+ Show Spoiler +
Avalon
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Eye of the Storm
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Overwatch (foreign map)
Pathfinder
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map)


New Map Lineup
Korean Maps:
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Demian
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Pathfinder

Foreign Maps:
Overwatch
(3)Reap the Storm
(4)Kiseyras


Change:
Avalon out, (3)Reap the Storm in
Eye of the Storm out, Demian in
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map) out, Kiseyras in


Just out of curiosity, is there a reason the mains on (3)Reap the Storm are so tiny? I mean especially on 10 o'clock as T you can just barely fit 9 facs and all the other stuff in, if you align everything very neatly.


??!

[image loading]
(and this is assuming that you build nothing at any other base and lift and keep all buildings landed, which is not realistic ; also, by that point you are most definitely mined out in your main which gives you space for at least 2 more factories, at least four if you also lift your CC out to another expansion.)

Or just open a picture of FS, CB, Demian, Aztec or any other standard map and compare the main sizes, you will realize that this is pretty normal.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
December 31 2016 15:36 GMT
#118
On January 01 2017 00:06 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 23:18 Cryoc wrote:
On December 31 2016 10:31 BisuDagger wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Registration
Registration for the first Fight Club begins January 7th. There will be a separate news thread created to remind everyone. Selection for the first two contenders will be announced on the 17th.

Who qualifies:
The selection of via a random drawing. After selecting a name, I will be verifying the following criteria: That you are A- and above ranked based on ICCUP standing. If you only play on Fish, but believe you are rated high enough to be A-rated please register. If your name is selected, my committee will research your credentials and make a determination on whether it is equivalent or above an A-rating. I will not share the details of this process, but I assure you it will be fair.

Map Rules: To be clear, a map can only be played once. Reigning champion always picks the first map. The loser after each game picks a new map from the list below. Please share your thoughts on the changes.

Old Map Lineup
+ Show Spoiler +
Avalon
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Eye of the Storm
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Overwatch (foreign map)
Pathfinder
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map)


New Map Lineup
Korean Maps:
Circuit Breaker
Benzene
Demian
New Bloody Ridge
New Sniper Ridge
Pathfinder

Foreign Maps:
Overwatch
(3)Reap the Storm
(4)Kiseyras


Change:
Avalon out, (3)Reap the Storm in
Eye of the Storm out, Demian in
Queensbridge 1.3 (foreign map) out, Kiseyras in


Just out of curiosity, is there a reason the mains on (3)Reap the Storm are so tiny? I mean especially on 10 o'clock as T you can just barely fit 9 facs and all the other stuff in, if you align everything very neatly.


??!

[image loading]
(and this is assuming that you build nothing at any other base and lift and keep all buildings landed, which is not realistic ; also, by that point you are most definitely mined out in your main which gives you space for at least 2 more factories, at least four if you also lift your CC out to another expansion.)

Or just open a picture of FS, CB, Demian, Aztec or any other standard map and compare the main sizes, you will realize that this is pretty normal.

I am talking main only without ebay and barracks, recall defense, one two tile gap between your factories to be able to defend recalls better and the correct number of depots (last time I checked T needed 22 on 3 bases for 200 supply, not 14).
You also outsourced Academy and armories in your picture.
And you certainly can fulfill those conditions, but you better never misplace a depot in the heat of a batttle or you get yourself screwed later on.
In FS the bases are at the corner, so you don't need to leave a gap to one side and you can outsource most of the recall defense. Demian I have too little experience to comment about but Aztec is an equally terrible map in that regard, but there you can atleast build supply depots at the high ground of the nat+3rd base because everything is buildable. Here you cannot even do that.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-31 16:16:51
December 31 2016 16:11 GMT
#119
Armories at nat are standard in TvP.
I was assuming that you build some depots at other bases (in fact you should do that for defensive wallins and optimizing worker pathing) and/or together with forward turrets to simcity defend on the mid ground. Other bases actually have quite a bit of building space, so you do not need to squeeze everything in your main.
There is still wiggling room for wider gaps, Unless you want to place four factories side by side, half of them with machine shops and with a two tile gap in between each one of them, which I think you cannot do on any map (this would require space equivalent to one quarter across the map. No main has ever been that big, and a map like that would have a very small middle section because half the space would be taken up by just the mains...).

Also, you do not really need more than nine factories on three bases, I think...

Can you post a screenshot of your building setup or something like that?
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
December 31 2016 16:25 GMT
#120
is there an actual list of a "pool of available players" so far?
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
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