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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 13:15:18
December 05 2016 16:01 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 2


Tuesday, Dec 06 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 2
[image loading][ASL]Bisu and Stork Return!


Casters & Hosts


BisuDagger | Tasteless |Artosis


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
Afreeca TV (BisuDagger and FlashFTW)
twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis)
ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream


Matchups and Maps



[image loading]      [image loading]
(P)Stork              (T)Rush

[image loading]      [image loading]
(P)free              (Z)MisO





Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +




Recommended Games


+ Show Spoiler [Stork vs Rush] +
Poll: Recommend Stork vs Rush?

Yes (19)
 
66%

If you have time (6)
 
21%

No (4)
 
14%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Rush?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [free vs MIsO] +
Poll: Recommend Free vs Miso?

No (10)
 
43%

If you have time (9)
 
39%

Yes (4)
 
17%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Free vs Miso?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match] +
Poll: Recommend Winners' match?

Yes (14)
 
88%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

No (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Losers Match] +
Poll: Recommend Losers' match?

No (12)
 
67%

If you have time (5)
 
28%

Yes (1)
 
6%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +
Poll: Recommend Final match?

Yes (15)
 
83%

If you have time (2)
 
11%

No (1)
 
6%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time





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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 16:03:01
December 05 2016 16:01 GMT
#2
Posting early so that I don't have to do it at work like today lol

Poll: Who Will Advance First?

Stork (15)
 
48%

free (12)
 
39%

Rush (3)
 
10%

MIsO (1)
 
3%

31 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Advance First?

(Vote): Stork
(Vote): Rush
(Vote): MIsO
(Vote): free


Poll: Who Will Advance 2nd?

Stork (12)
 
39%

free (10)
 
32%

Rush (5)
 
16%

MIsO (4)
 
13%

31 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Advance 2nd?

(Vote): Stork
(Vote): Rush
(Vote): MIsO
(Vote): free

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
December 05 2016 16:07 GMT
#3
Isn't it a bit early?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 05 2016 16:10 GMT
#4
On December 06 2016 01:07 byj wrote:
Isn't it a bit early?


hey you tell me, pick early or pick late?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 05 2016 16:28 GMT
#5
early always :D
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
December 05 2016 16:30 GMT
#6
Miso for the upset!
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
December 05 2016 16:35 GMT
#7
free and Stork hopefully :d
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 05 2016 16:58 GMT
#8
This will be a fun one. Hoping for a great PvP. Stork has the most fun PvP.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1971 Posts
December 05 2016 17:55 GMT
#9
I assume Stork is still rusty.
I guess it will be free and rush.
Total Annihilation Zero
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 19:41:06
December 05 2016 19:40 GMT
#10
Stork is going to top the group
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 19:57:54
December 05 2016 19:57 GMT
#11
Flash and JD are in subsequent groups which will take place next weekend, right?
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
December 05 2016 20:08 GMT
#12
On December 06 2016 04:57 ProtossGG wrote:
Flash and JD are in subsequent groups which will take place next weekend, right?

Yes. Flash is playing sunday and JD monday
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
December 05 2016 20:20 GMT
#13
[image loading]
Calendaraka Foxhan
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 05 2016 23:51 GMT
#14
I will be very happy man if Stork advances.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
December 06 2016 00:46 GMT
#15
FlaShFTW Predictions: Free and Stork. So far: 2-2.
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 03:14:16
December 06 2016 03:13 GMT
#16
Prepare the -50 DKP penalty, someone's going down to dragons today.

We narrowly missed a Stork vs Bisu in the GiGA showmatch; I wanna have Stork vs Free to see where his PvP stands.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
December 06 2016 03:37 GMT
#17
Hi guys, any news about Jangbi? He hasn't played in tourneys these days.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 03:51 GMT
#18
On December 06 2016 12:37 Jubinell wrote:
Hi guys, any news about Jangbi? He hasn't played in tourneys these days.

He should be close to finishing his military service.
FBH #1!
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
December 06 2016 04:57 GMT
#19
Wow. I have missed so much. I am so glad I realised this tournment was back on and I only have a few games to catch up on. Stork's name was not assoicated with Broodwar last time I paid any attention. Some of my greatest E-sports memories come from watching him live in Yongsan. So it is great to see his name back in the hat.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
December 06 2016 05:24 GMT
#20
[image loading]

I am so hyped.
HzVee
Profile Joined August 2015
43 Posts
December 06 2016 05:49 GMT
#21
Although I mostly watch sc2 and only have watched few BW games, yesterday's games make me looking forward for this!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 06 2016 08:02 GMT
#22
Yeah, that game between effort and rain pretty much showed bw from its best side.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 06 2016 08:35 GMT
#23
free/Rush
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
December 06 2016 09:18 GMT
#24
On December 06 2016 17:02 Elroi wrote:
Yeah, that game between effort and rain pretty much showed bw from its best side.


Still, it pales compared to Bisu vs Effort in Sino league.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
December 06 2016 09:23 GMT
#25
The playoffs will be a protoss fest :x Stork and free to advance from this group.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 06 2016 09:37 GMT
#26
On December 06 2016 18:18 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 17:02 Elroi wrote:
Yeah, that game between effort and rain pretty much showed bw from its best side.


Still, it pales compared to Bisu vs Effort in Sino league.


there are tons of PvZs I'd rate higher,so don't take that away from them.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 09:57 GMT
#27
Best predicts Free and Rush to advance
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
December 06 2016 09:58 GMT
#28
1 minute left HYPE!!!!
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:00 GMT
#29
I predict Miso and Rush. Don't hate me.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 10:05 GMT
#30
Miso is 100% getting out of this group. I can literally promise you all that.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:06 GMT
#31
Flash is so happy to see Stork.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:09 GMT
#32
LOL rush saying Miso is the weakest player of the 24 players.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 06 2016 10:09 GMT
#33
STORK STORK STORK
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:10 GMT
#34
Free" "My group is the easiest group of all" "I'll easily advance"
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
December 06 2016 10:12 GMT
#35
On December 06 2016 19:09 classicyellow83 wrote:
LOL rush saying Miso is the weakest player of the 24 players.

hehe just some friendly banter
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:12 GMT
#36
Flash: "I don't know about the other 3, but Free will advance"
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:19 GMT
#37
Flash predicted 8 scout double nexus.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
December 06 2016 10:19 GMT
#38
Sorry, but i'm not going to root for Stork today. I think we need a non-protoss now and miso and rush needs the money and attention more.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:22 GMT
#39
wtf are you doing rush!!
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 06 2016 10:22 GMT
#40
SONG BYUNG GOO!!
Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 10:22 GMT
#41
This game has actually made me angry.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
December 06 2016 10:22 GMT
#42
Talking about how SC2 may influence stork, and then a bitbybitprime from rush :^)
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 06 2016 10:24 GMT
#43
oh god this rush thinks he is freaking boxer or something ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
December 06 2016 10:24 GMT
#44
Why did ppl in the thread earlier say rush? This guy looks so lost
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 06 2016 10:26 GMT
#45
CARRIERS by stork
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:26 GMT
#46
STORK GOING FOR CARRIERS!!!
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 10:36:53
December 06 2016 10:28 GMT
#47
Stork is going to win. I promise.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:30 GMT
#48
carrier upgrade is faster than terran mech
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 10:31 GMT
#49
rush loses an armory and stork loses a carrier.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 06 2016 10:32 GMT
#50
love me some stork play
he always plays with big strokes
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
December 06 2016 10:34 GMT
#51
Rush gotta rush.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 10:37:13
December 06 2016 10:36 GMT
#52
Who is this player Rush is playing? An amateur?

and he won just like that? bs
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
December 06 2016 10:37 GMT
#53
Yay Stork!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 06 2016 10:37 GMT
#54
On December 06 2016 19:36 c3rberUs wrote:
Who is this player Rush is playing? An amateur?

and he won just like that? bs

some SC2 coach who wanted to try BW for some reason
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 10:37 GMT
#55
What a joy to see Stork win with carriers
FBH #1!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
December 06 2016 10:38 GMT
#56
Nice decision making from Stork. That early game stuff was brilliant. A bit sloppy on unit control (losing few of those initial carriers) and on macro (6 gate on like 5 bases) but still a great game from him.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 06 2016 10:38 GMT
#57
horrible first game
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 10:38 GMT
#58
Poll: Recommend Stork vs Rush?

Yes (19)
 
66%

If you have time (6)
 
21%

No (4)
 
14%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Rush?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 06 2016 10:39 GMT
#59
On December 06 2016 19:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 19:36 c3rberUs wrote:
Who is this player Rush is playing? An amateur?

and he won just like that? bs

some SC2 coach who wanted to try BW for some reason

No wonder he's so sloppy. He needs to practice some more to keep up with other ex-pros though
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 06 2016 10:40 GMT
#60
That was pretty hilarious. I think our best game will come from Stork vs Free in the winners match.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 06 2016 10:41 GMT
#61
SONG
BYUNG
GOO
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
December 06 2016 10:42 GMT
#62
On December 06 2016 19:24 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Why did ppl in the thread earlier say rush? This guy looks so lost

Because he is an ex-progamer and has had some decent results in minor leagues and what not. Meanwhile Stork just returned so it is expected that he is not in top shape. Nerves play a role as well
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
December 06 2016 10:43 GMT
#63
If Rush did not rush, he might have won a straight-up game.
Flash returns...
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 10:43 GMT
#64
As much as I like Free I really can't stand watching any more Zergs get smashed.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
December 06 2016 10:58 GMT
#65
where is tasteless btw ?
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 06 2016 10:58 GMT
#66
On December 06 2016 19:43 SCC-Faust wrote:
As much as I like Free I really can't stand watching any more Zergs get smashed.

Aaaaaanddd MisO is getting smashed
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 10:59 GMT
#67
On December 06 2016 19:58 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 19:43 SCC-Faust wrote:
As much as I like Free I really can't stand watching any more Zergs get smashed.

Aaaaaanddd MisO is getting smashed


It must be destiny. ASL 3 is a no Zerg's land.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 06 2016 11:00 GMT
#68
Where is like "no I'm not going to go Lurker vs pure zealot/archon". Hydras gogo, lol.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 06 2016 11:00 GMT
#69
Wow that was a lesson of PvZ.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 11:01 GMT
#70
Poll: Recommend Free vs Miso?

No (10)
 
43%

If you have time (9)
 
39%

Yes (4)
 
17%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Free vs Miso?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
December 06 2016 11:11 GMT
#71
tell your friends the dragons are back.

eon: hey erick the dragons are back!!!!

erick: hung up the phone.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 06 2016 11:12 GMT
#72
Free vs Stork

In a real offline league

in 2016
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 11:13 GMT
#73
I don't play SC2 but Artosis mentioned that PvP in SC2 is not as binary as BW.

In Brood War if PvP matches go long enough you see Zealots, Dragoons, DTs, Archons, HTs, Reavers... like, almost all the ground units. So what exactly is he talking about? I mean, SC2 has a shit ton of units so no duh you'll see more units in play. Does he just mean there are more strategies you can go? Ie it isn't always a goon fest early on like it is in BW?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 11:17 GMT
#74
On December 06 2016 20:13 SCC-Faust wrote:
I don't play SC2 but Artosis mentioned that PvP in SC2 is not as binary as BW.

In Brood War if PvP matches go long enough you see Zealots, Dragoons, DTs, Archons, HTs, Reavers... like, almost all the ground units. So what exactly is he talking about? I mean, SC2 has a shit ton of units so no duh you'll see more units in play. Does he just mean there are more strategies you can go? Ie it isn't always a goon fest early on like it is in BW?

Why are you still watching that stream if you don't play SC2?
FBH #1!
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 11:17 GMT
#75
Stork played that so well. That was crisp as fuck. Like, it felt so satisfying to watch.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 11:17 GMT
#76
Poll: Recommend Winners' match?

Yes (14)
 
88%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

No (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 06 2016 11:17 GMT
#77
HOLY SHIT STORK GOES THROUGH 2-0
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
December 06 2016 11:18 GMT
#78
My man Stork! gg
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 11:18 GMT
#79
STORKU!!!!!
FBH #1!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
December 06 2016 11:18 GMT
#80
interesting,poor Rush xDD
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 11:18 GMT
#81
On December 06 2016 20:17 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 20:13 SCC-Faust wrote:
I don't play SC2 but Artosis mentioned that PvP in SC2 is not as binary as BW.

In Brood War if PvP matches go long enough you see Zealots, Dragoons, DTs, Archons, HTs, Reavers... like, almost all the ground units. So what exactly is he talking about? I mean, SC2 has a shit ton of units so no duh you'll see more units in play. Does he just mean there are more strategies you can go? Ie it isn't always a goon fest early on like it is in BW?

Why are you still watching that stream if you don't play SC2?


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I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 06 2016 11:18 GMT
#82
Wow Stork, easy ! Go Free now !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 06 2016 11:19 GMT
#83
I told you Stork doesn't need to practice to be good. xD Very impressive, that micro was crisp as fuck.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 11:20:43
December 06 2016 11:20 GMT
#84
Stork can just play mobile games all day and still play BW like a boss.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 06 2016 11:20 GMT
#85
On December 06 2016 20:19 Miragee wrote:
I told you Stork doesn't need to practice to be good. xD Very impressive, that micro was crisp as fuck.

Yeah, all those years of playing WoW rather than practicing BW paid off here ^_^ hehe
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 11:23:24
December 06 2016 11:22 GMT
#86
Stork actually trained hardcore for the last 3 years and no one noticed since everyone was being so obsessed with who's onlystar, then timena and then 424.
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
December 06 2016 11:23 GMT
#87
This confirms it. It goes protoss => terran => zerg (least to most) in terms of time you need to get good again :D
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 06 2016 11:23 GMT
#88
Stork! What a baller!
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 06 2016 11:24 GMT
#89
Why does Zest, Bogus, Byun, Stats, herO get so few viewers? Never thought SC2 would drop in interest so much these days.

[image loading]
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 06 2016 11:26 GMT
#90
On December 06 2016 20:24 letian wrote:
Why does Zest, Bogus, Byun, Stats, herO get so few viewers? Never thought SC2 would drop in interest so much these days.

[image loading]

smaller online tournament that just started competing with ASL for viewership. Zest and herO haven't even played yet in Leifeng
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 06 2016 11:26 GMT
#91
Heh please just comment about the games, not again BW vs SC2 ;;
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 11:27 GMT
#92
On December 06 2016 20:26 Glioburd wrote:
Heh please just comment about the games, not again BW vs SC2 ;;


I like Brood War.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 06 2016 11:28 GMT
#93
Flash after stork advanced: "Class is forever"
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
TsogiMaster
Profile Joined October 2014
191 Posts
December 06 2016 11:41 GMT
#94
On December 06 2016 20:24 letian wrote:
Why does Zest, Bogus, Byun, Stats, herO get so few viewers? Never thought SC2 would drop in interest so much these days.

[image loading]


That is just online tournament vs ASL, an offline tournament. You cant compare their viewers. IEM Gyeonggi will get more viewers than ASL for sure.
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
December 06 2016 11:41 GMT
#95
This Stork guy is pretty good.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 11:45 GMT
#96
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 06 2016 11:45 GMT
#97
That game was a mess...
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 06 2016 11:45 GMT
#98
How did MisO get qualified and ZerO not?
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
December 06 2016 11:45 GMT
#99
So glad BW is back in force, although it's a bit different than last time I watched since now instead of staying up all night to watch I'm waking up early and going to work zz
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 11:50:14
December 06 2016 11:46 GMT
#100
On December 06 2016 20:41 Sayle wrote:
This Stork guy is pretty good.

Yeah I checked his items on his paladin, pretty good stuff.

On December 06 2016 20:45 letian wrote:
How did MisO get qualified and ZerO not?


ZerO didn't participate to the qualifiers. (Also HiyA).
MisO qualified maybe because playing on stage when you're not used to it can impact a lot your level. In a bad way for some players.
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
December 06 2016 11:47 GMT
#101
Zero didn't participate? Anyway miso was doing relatively fine with his mutalisk micro but his lurkers weren't in place. After you lose your third once, you might as well gg.
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
December 06 2016 11:48 GMT
#102
On December 06 2016 20:45 letian wrote:
How did MisO get qualified and ZerO not?

by actually trying to qualify?
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neilmellor
Profile Joined December 2010
China49 Posts
December 06 2016 11:50 GMT
#103
poor zergs in this ASL so far.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
December 06 2016 11:51 GMT
#104
On December 06 2016 20:46 Glioburd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 20:41 Sayle wrote:
This Stork guy is pretty good.

Yeah I checked his items on his paladin, pretty good stuff.

Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 20:45 letian wrote:
How did MisO get qualified and ZerO not?


ZerO didn't participate to the qualifiers. (Also HiyA).
MisO qualified maybe because playing on stage when you're not used to it can impact a lot your level. In a bad way for some players.

Hiya participated in seoul. He was sitting behind of me.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
neilmellor
Profile Joined December 2010
China49 Posts
December 06 2016 11:52 GMT
#105
On December 06 2016 20:47 B-royal wrote:
Zero didn't participate? Anyway miso was doing relatively fine with his mutalisk micro but his lurkers weren't in place. After you lose your third once, you might as well gg.


It seems that it is not convenient for him to participate the offline games from where he lives.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 06 2016 11:53 GMT
#106
On December 06 2016 20:51 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 20:46 Glioburd wrote:
On December 06 2016 20:41 Sayle wrote:
This Stork guy is pretty good.

Yeah I checked his items on his paladin, pretty good stuff.

On December 06 2016 20:45 letian wrote:
How did MisO get qualified and ZerO not?


ZerO didn't participate to the qualifiers. (Also HiyA).
MisO qualified maybe because playing on stage when you're not used to it can impact a lot your level. In a bad way for some players.

Hiya participated in seoul. He was sitting behind of me.

Oh okay, my bad then.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 06 2016 12:11 GMT
#107
Tough luck for Free.

Grats to Rush though. gg
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 06 2016 12:11 GMT
#108
The weakest group indeed, glad Stork went through.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 06 2016 12:11 GMT
#109
Okay then, here you go. That's the Rush we know. That was just very very solid.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
December 06 2016 12:11 GMT
#110
"easiest group" hahahah
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 06 2016 12:13 GMT
#111
Wow.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
December 06 2016 12:13 GMT
#112
idk what free was doing that game. such a late natural and even later 3rd. well played from rush.
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valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 06 2016 12:14 GMT
#113
Damn I missed this, have the vods been uploaded?
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 06 2016 12:15 GMT
#114
On December 06 2016 21:14 valaki wrote:
Damn I missed this, have the vods been uploaded?

it's technically still running, should be on twitch right after it ends if GSL channel works like that.
Michael Probu
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 12:20 GMT
#115
Poll: Recommend Final match?

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11%

No (1)
 
6%

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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 06 2016 12:20 GMT
#116
Free was probably dissing Stork (they're buds from GM)
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 06 2016 12:26 GMT
#117
i mean i love stork but how the fuck did he advance with like 1 month of gaming
The Bomber boy
Maks
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine167 Posts
December 06 2016 12:29 GMT
#118
how many zergs left in the tournament now?
Kim "ZerO" Myung Woon: I think that there is no way to beat a good Terran as Zerg. This is mainly because good mutalisk micro just cannot beat good marine-medic micro.
wander
Profile Joined October 2008
Japan45 Posts
December 06 2016 12:32 GMT
#119
Wow, wp rush

And I can't believe stork is back and in the ro16!
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
December 06 2016 12:57 GMT
#120
Missing final match because my internet is down
:/
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 13:03:10
December 06 2016 13:02 GMT
#121
On December 06 2016 21:26 Wintex wrote:
i mean i love stork but how the fuck did he advance with like 1 month of gaming

Because he's muthafucking Song Byung Gu

... He probably practiced a hell lot in secrecy.

edit - this is also very, very sad

[image loading]
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 06 2016 13:03 GMT
#122
On December 06 2016 21:29 Maks wrote:
how many zergs left in the tournament now?


Terror, Soulkey, Jaedong, hero. So some chances we are getting at least 1-2 zergs in the ro16.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 06 2016 13:05 GMT
#123
Noooo Free
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
December 06 2016 13:07 GMT
#124
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 06 2016 13:19 GMT
#125
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


hmm, would you take Bisudagger and FlashFTW?
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
December 06 2016 13:27 GMT
#126
I don't know, never tuned in there. Was linked to the YT-Cast via IRC and usually don't watch BW anymore. Gonna try that if I have time to see another match. Thanks.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 02:27:12
December 06 2016 13:31 GMT
#127
"...10 terran, 10 protoss and 8 zerg. You can't even thank David Kim for that cause he wasn't around for BroodWar" LMAO! Golden words from Rapid. Also stop Artosis fixing Rapid, he was right about that Stork vs. Flash game on Destination, not vs. Jeadong like you said.

Rush was being silly going for SCV pull. I think he got more chance on normal game judging from his goliath micro to take out carriers, but still Stork is carrier god. Free played so perfect vs. Miso(Where), it didn't even look fair. But at winners game Stork crushed Free, what a monster! Then Rush outplayed Where and crushed Free who made a mistake by not recalling, trying to break out a walled with depo, turrets + bunker location isn't an easy task. Rush was impressive today!
sunbeams are never made like me...
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
December 06 2016 13:43 GMT
#128
On December 06 2016 22:02 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 21:26 Wintex wrote:
i mean i love stork but how the fuck did he advance with like 1 month of gaming

Because he's muthafucking Song Byung Gu

... He probably practiced a hell lot in secrecy.

edit - this is also very, very sad

[image loading]

I mean... Terror/JD/SK/hero haven't played yet.
kiss kiss fall in love
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
December 06 2016 13:45 GMT
#129
It would be rather funny to have Terror be the only zerg to advance
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
December 06 2016 13:58 GMT
#130
Yeah I'm not gonna fight you on that. Would enjoy.

And then he has to win.
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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
December 06 2016 14:07 GMT
#131
Guess i underestimated Stork, the guy was getting in Starleague finals while playing wow.
No worries about zergs though, hero is a given and SK/JD have good chances
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
December 06 2016 14:08 GMT
#132
Also 3T and 1P were seeded anyway it looks like, so I think it makes sense for it to look a bit lopsided.
kiss kiss fall in love
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 06 2016 14:27 GMT
#133
Rush looked fantastic in those last two games. Just flawless on every play, if I didn't see the names I could easily believe it was Flash or Last playing.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 06 2016 14:33 GMT
#134
On December 06 2016 23:27 iamho wrote:
Rush looked fantastic in those last two games. Just flawless on every play, if I didn't see the names I could easily believe it was Flash or Last playing.

He really did. His major mistake in the beginning was the only real issue he had and his response to take his half of the map was perfect.
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
December 06 2016 15:01 GMT
#135
Holy crap Stork! How did he do it??
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 06 2016 15:11 GMT
#136
On December 06 2016 23:27 iamho wrote:
Rush looked fantastic in those last two games. Just flawless on every play, if I didn't see the names I could easily believe it was Flash or Last playing.


is the Rush Hype train alive again?
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 15:49:30
December 06 2016 15:32 GMT
#137
It's up to Terror now then. He's the one who's going to change perception of zergs ^^
+ Show Spoiler +
No worries zergs! JD will advance 100%
sunbeams are never made like me...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 16:00:42
December 06 2016 15:57 GMT
#138
On December 06 2016 22:31 outscar wrote:
"...10 terran, 10 protoss and 8 zerg. You can't even think David Kim for that cause he wasn't around for BroodWar" LMAO! Golden words from Rapid. Also stop Artosis fixing Rapid, he was right about that Stork vs. Flash game on Destination, not vs. Jeadong like you said.

Rush was being silly going for SCV pull. I think he got more chance on normal game judging from his goliath micro to take out carriers, but still Stork is carrier god. Free played so perfect vs. Miso(Where), it didn't even look fair. But at winners game Stork crushed Free, what a monster! Then Rush outplayed Where and crushed Free who made a mistake by not recalling, trying to break out a walled with depo, turrets + bunker location isn't an easy task. Rush was impressive today!


I don't think free played good vs Miso. Free is just leagues ahead of Miso in terms of macro and probably everything else. To be fair, he played really sloppy all game. He basically sacrificed tons of zealots and just played sauron protoss until the end while Miso failed to morph a single lurker and instead played hydra only against zealot/archon...

On December 06 2016 23:07 ortseam wrote:
Guess i underestimated Stork, the guy was getting in Starleague finals while playing wow.
No worries about zergs though, hero is a given and SK/JD have good chances


I don't know how movie is doing but SK will probably have a hard time. I think Jaedong has a rather easy group, he should advance. For hero I don't know. How is he doing as of late? Because he kind of played quite bad at the time of the last ASL, especially again terran which is his weakness. If this still is the case, even Iris can be dangerous for him.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
December 06 2016 16:16 GMT
#139
JD's group isn't that easy, Benzene ZvT is kinda hard and Best has decent PvZ when he feels like it. Hero shouldn't have any problems, Iris hasn't really shown any good play for a long time. Dunno for SK/Movie though
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
December 06 2016 16:20 GMT
#140
On December 07 2016 00:01 lastride wrote:
Holy crap Stork! How did he do it??

Power of the Commander b r o.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 06 2016 16:44 GMT
#141
On December 07 2016 01:16 ortseam wrote:
JD's group isn't that easy, Benzene ZvT is kinda hard and Best has decent PvZ when he feels like it. Hero shouldn't have any problems, Iris hasn't really shown any good play for a long time. Dunno for SK/Movie though

I never discount movie before ro8.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
December 06 2016 16:51 GMT
#142
Oh pls don't call SoulKey SK. I was really confused. SK Telecom, SK terran - that abbrevation spot is taken so much...
sunbeams are never made like me...
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 06 2016 17:06 GMT
#143
On December 07 2016 01:51 outscar wrote:
Oh pls don't call SoulKey SK. I was really confused. SK Telecom, SK terran - that abbrevation spot is taken so much...


agreed.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
December 06 2016 17:08 GMT
#144
So glad Stork advanced, he looked so happy.

And wtf was Free doing in the last game? He took his 3rd base at 12 mins!!
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
December 06 2016 17:32 GMT
#145
SO HAPPY! cant describe my feelings accurately the smiles from stork after advancing it tells a complete story! and than free and stork bobing into each other and free grinning at stork !! haha like two friends do fantastic

STORK is home where he belongs <3
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
December 06 2016 17:49 GMT
#146
On December 07 2016 02:08 Dante08 wrote:
So glad Stork advanced, he looked so happy.

And wtf was Free doing in the last game? He took his 3rd base at 12 mins!!

He never used an arbiter spell aswell
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 06 2016 18:01 GMT
#147
On December 07 2016 01:51 outscar wrote:
Oh pls don't call SoulKey SK. I was really confused. SK Telecom, SK terran - that abbrevation spot is taken so much...

but SK terran stands for SoulKey terran Different SoulKey though.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
December 06 2016 18:57 GMT
#148
On December 07 2016 03:01 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 01:51 outscar wrote:
Oh pls don't call SoulKey SK. I was really confused. SK Telecom, SK terran - that abbrevation spot is taken so much...

but SK terran stands for SoulKey terran Different SoulKey though.


I totally forgot about that lol
sunbeams are never made like me...
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
December 06 2016 19:13 GMT
#149
Er, just watching today's games, but did the game start screen always say Obersvers?

[image loading]
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 19:21 GMT
#150
Nice catch, but are you surprised?
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ArcTimes
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru269 Posts
December 06 2016 19:36 GMT
#151
lmao Obersvers
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 20:27:40
December 06 2016 20:26 GMT
#152
What I am wondering is, whether Free forgot to research recall and only noticed it when he already went in the Terrans main because that arbiter sacrifice was really weird. He also didn't use stasis and I could imagine, that it wasn't done at the crucial time because the recall research had to finish first.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 21:14:30
December 06 2016 21:14 GMT
#153
The way Rush places his depos at his nat and 3rd to block attacks is pretty sick.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 06 2016 21:24 GMT
#154
Any recommended games?
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 06 2016 21:36 GMT
#155
On December 07 2016 06:24 stuchiu wrote:
Any recommended games?

+ Show Spoiler +

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Yes (19)
 
66%

If you have time (6)
 
21%

No (4)
 
14%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Rush?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Free vs Miso?

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43%

If you have time (9)
 
39%

Yes (4)
 
17%

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(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Winners' match?

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88%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

No (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

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(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Losers' match?

No (12)
 
67%

If you have time (5)
 
28%

Yes (1)
 
6%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final match?

Yes (15)
 
83%

If you have time (2)
 
11%

No (1)
 
6%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final match?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time


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DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
December 06 2016 22:13 GMT
#156
The final game was really excellent showing by Rush, nice to see a new Terran making his way!

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
December 06 2016 23:09 GMT
#157
On December 07 2016 04:13 sixfour wrote:
Er, just watching today's games, but did the game start screen always say Obersvers?

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It's UMS, that means the Forces are named by the map maker, not by BroodWar. So this is a misspelling on this particular map.
LML
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
December 07 2016 00:35 GMT
#158
Thanks for the updates, all.

Props to TheNewEra for the LP updates

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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 01:13 GMT
#159
Good games, but a pretty boring day when literally everything you think is going to happen happens. Just couldn't see Free getting out of this group much as I would have liked it.
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ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
December 07 2016 01:35 GMT
#160
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 07 2016 01:47 GMT
#161
Finally my signature I've had for years is true yet again.

Stork and BW forever!
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 01:50 GMT
#162
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 02:36:20
December 07 2016 02:35 GMT
#163
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


The random guy you said also casted previous ASL with Wolf when Artosis was on vacation and also did hardest job by casting solo TvT. Were you asleep wtf. Catspaw, with all respect, are you serious?
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 02:47 GMT
#164
On December 07 2016 11:35 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


The random guy you said also casted previous ASL with Wolf when Artosis was on vacation and also did hardest job by casting solo TvT. Were you asleep wtf. Catspaw, with all respect, are you serious?


You mean the single greatest cast in starcraft history...it was....magical
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 04:08:33
December 07 2016 04:05 GMT
#165
On December 07 2016 00:01 lastride wrote:
Holy crap Stork! How did he do it??

Because he is the fucking Commander.

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ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 04:22:04
December 07 2016 04:21 GMT
#166
On December 07 2016 13:05 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 00:01 lastride wrote:
Holy crap Stork! How did he do it??

Because he is the fucking Commander.

+ Show Spoiler +
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stop, i can only get so erect
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
December 07 2016 06:48 GMT
#167
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?
LML
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 07:28:51
December 07 2016 07:26 GMT
#168
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
December 07 2016 08:11 GMT
#169
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.

This was uncalled for.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 08:33:22
December 07 2016 08:24 GMT
#170
On December 07 2016 17:11 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.

This was uncalled for.


Truth hurts, and if that is uncalled for, then what the hell is "doesn't even know basic build orders"? Just a boldfaced lie? "Oh no someone im not familiar with is casting Broodwar and doesn't know the exact timings of these things. This is interfering with my wet dream of only BW players and personalities I care about coming back and replicating 2008 again." How about you enjoy the fact we get a free top level Korean BW cast in English from people who do actually know what they're talking about. "Oh no they mentioned SC2, this is ruining my nostalgic immersion because they are helping people who've never watched pro BW more than a handful of times WHICH IS THE FUCKING MAJORITY OF THE GSL STREAM!!! Im so sick and tired of this stupid broodwar vs SC2 bullshit. People need to grow the fuck up.

RANT OVER.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 07 2016 08:43 GMT
#171
^Why do you let it get to you? The only important thing these arguments tell me is that right now BW is hot.
FBH #1!
goddamnitdell
Profile Joined December 2016
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 08:54:23
December 07 2016 08:53 GMT
#172
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.


He clearly doesn't because he shouldn't be surprised or confused by Light's mech build against Effort. Any terran player who still remembers Brood War back in the day would immediately remember Flash rolling Jaedong with it during his first championship run.

That's why people aren't liking his commentary. He acts like he knows a lot but he's clearly forgotten so much that he's basically a colour commentator. Its not terribly insightful and he's not particularly right a lot of the time. Obviously if you don't like it watch a different steam but people still have a right to voice their complaints.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 07 2016 09:32 GMT
#173
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


And Sayle was criticised for not being knowledgable back in the day, which is somewhat true. The problem I have with Artosis right now is that he seems to think he still knows everything but he actually forgot almost everything. That leads to the problem that he doesn't even try to acquire the knowledge he needs to let his analytical style cast work.

I don't think BisuDagger is too knowledgable, but he is leagues ahead of Artosis right now. And he works on himself, which is the most important thing. I like his casts because they are passionate, entertaining and you can see improvement.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
December 07 2016 09:34 GMT
#174
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.

I don't really know why you get so angry, but you should think of the complaints voiced here more to improve the cast, because everyone who played or even just watched some BW streams for a couple of hours in the last months would see, that they apparently don't even know what the most standard opening in ZvP is right now (and also has been during in the final pro BW days) for example which is 3 Hatch spire into 5 Hatch vs Forge Fast Expand with the 3rd Hatch being build either at the next gas base or the closest 3rd base location. We saw that in every PvZ on Benzene and the casters were surprised every time and wondering why P send the first zealots to the 3rd even when they hadn't scouted it.
Their audience is mainly non-BW players so this is actually not really a drawback for their cast because no one there knows, that a lot of the things they say are not correct, but wouldn't it improve the cast, if they had at least some basic knowledge and would some more correct calls?
Neither English cast has really good strategic knowledge, but Bisudagger and Co. atleast know the bare basics in the matchups they play themselves.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 07 2016 09:35 GMT
#175
On December 07 2016 17:53 goddamnitdell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.


He clearly doesn't because he shouldn't be surprised or confused by Light's mech build against Effort. Any terran player who still remembers Brood War back in the day would immediately remember Flash rolling Jaedong with it during his first championship run.

That's why people aren't liking his commentary. He acts like he knows a lot but he's clearly forgotten so much that he's basically a colour commentator. Its not terribly insightful and he's not particularly right a lot of the time. Obviously if you don't like it watch a different steam but people still have a right to voice their complaints.


Tastosis literally said during the last season of ASL and I'm quoting "we are going to be learning and relearning right alongside you all, we'll be holding hands during these casts." What planet do you live on?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 07 2016 10:01 GMT
#176
I agree with you long shot. I think the casting was really nice. No problem if they made some misstakes from time to time (who doesnt?). If this gets more people from sc2 into the game - that is great. Besides I think artosis comparisons with sc2 are often pretty spot on and interesting.

Gonna tune in to hear Bisudagger and Flashftw (?) next time though to get a chance to catch the more hardcore BW casting.

Seriously, since I started following ASL again it feels like I'm walking on clouds. It feels like the old pro BW is coming back and I'm so profoundly happy about it. Now if Jaedong could somehow advance to the finals and win this, I will be once again a child on Christmas morning. A child who is simply happy to be at that exact moment when everything makes sense, and all is right with the world.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
December 07 2016 10:01 GMT
#177
No day 4 today? where is it? :S
goddamnitdell
Profile Joined December 2016
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 12:19:21
December 07 2016 12:05 GMT
#178
On December 07 2016 18:35 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 17:53 goddamnitdell wrote:
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.


He clearly doesn't because he shouldn't be surprised or confused by Light's mech build against Effort. Any terran player who still remembers Brood War back in the day would immediately remember Flash rolling Jaedong with it during his first championship run.

That's why people aren't liking his commentary. He acts like he knows a lot but he's clearly forgotten so much that he's basically a colour commentator. Its not terribly insightful and he's not particularly right a lot of the time. Obviously if you don't like it watch a different steam but people still have a right to voice their complaints.


Tastosis literally said during the last season of ASL and I'm quoting "we are going to be learning and relearning right alongside you all, we'll be holding hands during these casts." What planet do you live on?


I live on a planet where I expect a decent degree of competence from someone who is making it clear that he was deep in the golden age of Korean Brood War. The comparisons with SC2 isn't even an issue if done correctly, the issue is Artosis is doing his job like the SC1 commentator equivalent of Reggie Miller.

To be quote honest, I actually think Rapid is better than Artosis is right now. He can be funny, has shown progress over the last season and doesn't have pre-existing conceptions of the game and players. He even did pretty well casting by himself.

Artosis' problem right now is that he's a homer commentator fluffing older players or players with some degree of achievement, hasn't remembered old standard builds and players nor kept up with current trends yet sort of props himself up as a figure of authority, and misses important cues and moves. If you're "going to be learning and relearning right alongside you all", you should probably cast like Rapid or GOM-era Tasteless.
IntoTheStorm
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
116 Posts
December 07 2016 12:53 GMT
#179
Stork, my man, that was awesome. And this dude, Rush, wow, the way he handed free - spectacular.

As for commentators, I like them, it's a small miracle we get to have them in English so I don't complain.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 13:17:10
December 07 2016 13:16 GMT
#180
On December 06 2016 20:51 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 20:46 Glioburd wrote:
On December 06 2016 20:41 Sayle wrote:
This Stork guy is pretty good.

Yeah I checked his items on his paladin, pretty good stuff.

On December 06 2016 20:45 letian wrote:
How did MisO get qualified and ZerO not?


ZerO didn't participate to the qualifiers. (Also HiyA).
MisO qualified maybe because playing on stage when you're not used to it can impact a lot your level. In a bad way for some players.

Hiya participated in seoul. He was sitting behind of me.


How many people were trying to qualify?

Did you try to qualify? How hard was it, I assume everyone tried?
It will be fun watching you when you qualify next time.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 23:49:44
December 07 2016 23:36 GMT
#181
Is it wrong to be giddy simply because there's still a BW tournament with Flash, Jaedong, Stork and Bisu in it?

We are some lucky f**ks to still have this in 2016, eighteen years after release. Even if this one is gonna be a Protoss-fest.



User was warned for being hilarious
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
December 08 2016 01:17 GMT
#182
On December 08 2016 08:36 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Is it wrong to be giddy simply because there's still a BW tournament with Flash, Jaedong, Stork and Bisu in it?

We are some lucky f**ks to still have this in 2016, eighteen years after release. Even if this one is gonna be a Protoss-fest.




No, never wrong to be enjoying and basking in the glory that is brood war. I will never stop being hyped about brood war. This game will never die, we will always be here.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 08 2016 08:05 GMT
#183
STORK IS BACK!!!! :D:D:D:D
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 08:17:01
December 08 2016 08:13 GMT
#184
On December 07 2016 17:24 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 17:11 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 07 2016 16:26 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 15:48 LML wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 07 2016 10:35 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On December 06 2016 22:07 GeckoXp wrote:
I realize it's supposed to be constructive, but I really didn't think the cast was by Artosis and this other random person was good. Lots and lots strange SCII comparisons, "interesting" analysis and artificial almost-yelling. Can someone get Catspaw to cast this stuff in the future?


I also didn't think the cast was very good... I've been listening to a lot of Sayle's proleague casts from 2012 recently, and he is much more informed about strategy and what's going on in the game than Artosis. Would give my firstborn for Sayle casting ASL


RAPID is the memelord, how dare ye. And considering at least half if not more of the people watching on the GSL stream are familiar with SC2 more than BW some watching for the first or second time the comparison is more than warranted.


What good are memes when he doesn't even know basic build orders?


Well for 1, he does. He doesn't know everything about the current Korean "Pro" BW meta but then again probably only a few thousand people on the planet do. And most of them don't live in Korea, speak perfect english, work for a media company and are able to cast at the drop of a hat. You also don't have to watch that stream, there are others. You can keep your precious BW boys club intact if you want to.

This was uncalled for.


Truth hurts, and if that is uncalled for, then what the hell is "doesn't even know basic build orders"? Just a boldfaced lie? "Oh no someone im not familiar with is casting Broodwar and doesn't know the exact timings of these things. This is interfering with my wet dream of only BW players and personalities I care about coming back and replicating 2008 again." How about you enjoy the fact we get a free top level Korean BW cast in English from people who do actually know what they're talking about. "Oh no they mentioned SC2, this is ruining my nostalgic immersion because they are helping people who've never watched pro BW more than a handful of times WHICH IS THE FUCKING MAJORITY OF THE GSL STREAM!!! Im so sick and tired of this stupid broodwar vs SC2 bullshit. People need to grow the fuck up.

RANT OVER.


The guy literally doesn't know some basic build orders, though. It's not a "boldfaced lie".
LML
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
December 08 2016 12:38 GMT
#185
I love you stork!!!!!!
This day 3 bring me the probw days experience, sooo goood.

Typical free losses, and great play by rush. In one of the previous tournaments, he showed incredible army management vs zero, but lacked on game knowledge and lost. Hope he achieve at least ro8 this time.
Luv ya BroodWar!
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 08 2016 14:55 GMT
#186
Personally I would be very surprised if somebody who follows brood war as long as artosis suddenly would forget what the meta game was at the end of BW. From what I can tell it also often the case that Rapid says something weird, and I can see that it would harm the cast more to constantly correct him instead of just follow up something wrong.

That being I only watched a few of their casts together and I enjoy Rapid's solo casts.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
December 08 2016 15:07 GMT
#187
Well Tastosis probably stopped following BW once SC2 came out, so about early 2010 i believe.
Rapid has done a great job so far, given that he has probably never followed BW
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
December 08 2016 15:21 GMT
#188
On December 09 2016 00:07 ortseam wrote:
Well Tastosis probably stopped following BW once SC2 came out, so about early 2010 i believe.
Rapid has done a great job so far, given that he has probably never followed BW

Rapid used to follow BW. He said in a cast that he used to be a fan of the youtube commentator nukethestars.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 16:37:26
December 08 2016 16:36 GMT
#189
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 08 2016 17:04 GMT
#190
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
December 08 2016 17:19 GMT
#191
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.


I have never seen Tasteless cast bw, apart from last ASL, but I know what you mean considering I was an avid SC2 follower. Honestly, I don't know which Tasteless we will get. I just hope, considering that you could physically feel his passion for BW last ASL, that he put a lot of work into following BW more and learning more about the current meta.
If he did, I think Tastosis will work very well in BW, though they probably would need to switch up their commentary roles (usually Artosis with the knowledge and Tasteless with the color commentary).
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
December 08 2016 18:12 GMT
#192
What's with these people coming from sc2 back to bw and just casually advancing?
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
December 08 2016 19:41 GMT
#193
On December 09 2016 03:12 ggrrg wrote:
What's with these people coming from sc2 back to bw and just casually advancing?

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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 08 2016 20:47 GMT
#194
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 08 2016 20:54 GMT
#195
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 23:09:18
December 08 2016 23:07 GMT
#196
On December 09 2016 05:54 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.


No, it was Tasteless. Tasteless had 10 years of Brood War experience. This was before Day9.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
December 08 2016 23:27 GMT
#197
They were both high level players at the time for foreigner levels and his Analysis was mostly spot on. I am mostly disappointed that they apparently did not invest any time in refreshing their knowledge about bw so their excitement should be taken with a grain of salt.
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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 01:17:04
December 09 2016 01:16 GMT
#198
On December 09 2016 08:07 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 05:54 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.


No, it was Tasteless. Tasteless had 10 years of Brood War experience. This was before Day9.


No, you're wrong. As was said above, Day[9] was known for his in-depth analysis. Tasteless was known (and is known) specifically for his lack thereof. He's known for his extremely entertaining casting style and chemistry with co-casters.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 05:31:15
December 09 2016 05:29 GMT
#199
Geez, who the hell cares if Tastosis is the best thing since sliced-bread or not?

If you like 'em, listen to 'em. If you don't, there's these two others guys named BisuDagger and FlashFTW who are pretty good (though those two need to equalize their mic levels... FlashFTW is consistently waaay louder).

Guess what I'm sayin' is, isn't it nice to have choices?

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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 09 2016 09:37 GMT
#200
FlashFTW is louder because he likes to roar into his micro with everything he has. :D Synching their streams would be a better advice.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 09 2016 17:34 GMT
#201
On December 09 2016 10:16 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 08:07 usopsama wrote:
On December 09 2016 05:54 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.


No, it was Tasteless. Tasteless had 10 years of Brood War experience. This was before Day9.


No, you're wrong. As was said above, Day[9] was known for his in-depth analysis. Tasteless was known (and is known) specifically for his lack thereof. He's known for his extremely entertaining casting style and chemistry with co-casters.
Hes known for being a play by play caster, not for a lack of game knowledge. He also analyzed games more often as a solo caster by virtue of having to fill more air time.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
December 09 2016 20:08 GMT
#202
On December 10 2016 02:34 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2016 10:16 LucasWoJ wrote:
On December 09 2016 08:07 usopsama wrote:
On December 09 2016 05:54 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 05:47 sabas123 wrote:
On December 09 2016 02:04 Miragee wrote:
On December 09 2016 01:36 TheNewEra wrote:
First: I'm not one of the big critics of Artosis, considering that I've never watched BW in it's prime. So, many mistakes they do while commentating stay unnoticed by me.
What I mainly dislike about their cast is especially the many SC2 references ( even though it's a bit toned down compared to the first season of ASL). Some are fine, especially if they talk about Rain, Soulkey and other players who also became succesful in SC2.
Mostly when people say they dislike Artosis for his game knowledge I can't follow, because as said before I was never that big into broodwar until last year. But I can understand this. I think though, that we should cut Rapid some slack. Yes he followed BW once, but we don't know if he has ever since. Also he is not contracted to Afreeca to cast ASL. He is just subbing in for Tasteless. Artosis on the other hand should be better. Considering he was a pro for many years. I think this duo works well, but could work even better if Rapid had someone casting with him who has deep game knowledge, because he can easily do color commentary. That he knows the game at all and trivia/history about players became obvious the last broadcasts.

I think though that Tasteless will be more up to date with the meta and game than Artosis so I'm looking forward to their cast


I like your attitude. I don't know if Tasteless will be more up to date. I kind of doubt it. He was never the "deep knowledge" guy, neither in BW nor in SC2. His SC2 casts were all about passion and the chemistry with Artosis. He often got things wrong. So I expect him to do the same in BW, especially when he didn't play nor watch it for years. Maybe he will teach me a lesson though. If he does, I will be a happy man.

Wait, Tasteless was know for his deep knowledge about brood war wasn't he?


No, that was his brother, Day9.


No, it was Tasteless. Tasteless had 10 years of Brood War experience. This was before Day9.


No, you're wrong. As was said above, Day[9] was known for his in-depth analysis. Tasteless was known (and is known) specifically for his lack thereof. He's known for his extremely entertaining casting style and chemistry with co-casters.
Hes known for being a play by play caster, not for a lack of game knowledge. He also analyzed games more often as a solo caster by virtue of having to fill more air time.


Heyhey, let's not turn statements around. I never said he was known for his lack of game knowledge in BW. I just said he wasn't known for his game knowledge in BW. Those two are not the same.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 11 2016 01:48 GMT
#203
Very defensive.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 12 2016 01:28 GMT
#204
no recommended poll for this day?
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killer1nz
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand164 Posts
December 12 2016 01:34 GMT
#205
On December 12 2016 10:28 TanGeng wrote:
no recommended poll for this day?


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