Jaehoon finally become Godlyhoon be defeating Sharp who got 3rd last starleague.
Pretty disappointed by Effort, he didn't have to face Flash, not even Bisu or any S player in his group but still lost and now out(?). If Bisu was there he would toyed Ssak.
1st I thought it's Offline Choker vs. Online King match but Sea was godly today. And interview was so awesome, this guy has balls. Sea is my favourite terran from now on.
Thought last match should be MVP - AlphaGo vs. 400 APM consistent Bisu crusher SSL champ zerg (we need a nickname bois). Hero just dismantled Mong last week so I thought Last gonna have a nightmare time vs. him, I fucking mean hero is top 3 zerg.. Game was on FS, nothing weird or cheese. Zerg lost to simple M&M push. It remminds be SSL11 where Mind crushed Killer because he didn't have enough sunkers, BUT Hero got like 4+ sunkens still it wasn't enough.
Feeling bad not seeing Artosis on. BW is reviving after 6 years and he gets vacation. So much passion... He is so stressed because of pashun so he goes to release it.../facepalm. Kudos to Wolf, he is really good caster (he is so serious sometimes though) and replaced him, I'm starting to get used and love TastyWolf
Sigma Σ (summary) = (not that sign on Taebaek map though) I think Last can take out Flash. This guy can beat T, Z, P and obtaion 70%, if he got those stats on KeSPA wonder who he could be... Best is out but Last remains. It means AlphaGo The Machine vs. The God match gonna occur.
Last note: Last deserves it, he's post kespa God if he wins this ASL because he was so underrated.
PS: Just reminding to not to harsh. Let's just stop criticizaing titans. We aren't gonna be, fail like them at least in 10k years. Every fucking player was/is/gonna be great on this tourney.
this tour develops into a Terran only party. Im not suprised, only with Flash, but the maps and player pool kinda favored this outcome. Where is Bisu when you need him and why did effort/larva/zero underperform so hard /-:
I'm the exact opposite of an expert but I think Circuit Breaker is a perfect example of a terran favored map. Close mineral third does so much for terrans. Vultures, turrets and marines(in ZvT) being such an effective mineral dumps. The 4th is so easy to just sort of blob your way towards(tanks on the high ground ramp defend your 3rd, 4th and even sort of your natural simultaneously lol) All the chokes just magnify the power of mech, and to a lesser extend even m/m since you need surface area to effectively engage. Maybe someone can pull up a map history for CB that will prove how wrong I am, but as long as terran doesn't get caught move commanding out in the open I'm not sure how you get a cost effective engagement ever.
The idea of out macroing a terran is fine and dandy, but you need to be able to get a base advantage and the way bases are spaced on a lot of the fighting spirit derivative maps, it seems really easy for the terran to harass without sacrificing much, and simultaneously be the most secure race against counter attacks. I'm crossing my fingers for Afreeca to mix up the map pool next tournament. Maybe even throw terrans under the bus for a bit, it's definitely more fun to root for the underdog race.
Everything was cool and dandy until Flash returned. His aura gave all Terran players +100 skills and now even the ex champion can't get out of group stage.
From pvz finals (SSL11, NSL), into TvT RO8 all the way to finals.
On August 01 2016 20:19 Wrath wrote: Everything was cool and dandy until Flash returned. His aura gave all Terran players +100 skills and now even the ex champion can't get out of group stage.
From pvz finals (SSL11, NSL), into TvT RO8 all the way to finals.
That's why I think people should stop complaining about maps like taekbaek mountain and pathfinder, we need those to balance everything and ALSO it gives some pretty epic games since the races at a disadvantage have to step up their game and come out with an interesting build or play differently. I think it's just good in general. The pros seems to prefer to always play on standard maps though.
On August 01 2016 20:19 Wrath wrote: Everything was cool and dandy until Flash returned. His aura gave all Terran players +100 skills and now even the ex champion can't get out of group stage.
From pvz finals (SSL11, NSL), into TvT RO8 all the way to finals.
I think it's just good in general. Everyone seems to prefer to always play on standard maps though.
FTFY.
Anyway what you said is correct. With Jaedong return, hopefully Zerg can step up their game. But Protoss won't until Bisu stop trolling or with Jangbi and Stork return which looks won't be happening.
Terran domination was predictable scenario even before the new maps was played if you look race distribution in the begining of the tournament - Protoss (4) Terran (8) Zerg (4) 50% of the players are terran. I dont remember such thing in the last tours. Flash came back and all the terrans rise, like if hes given them so much power just by his return.
On August 01 2016 02:46 Miragee wrote: Just watched the rest of the vods. Damn, such a disappointing day. Matches were quite bad, especially the last two and all zergs lost. So we have 1 zerg in the Ro8. Awesome. -.-'
On August 01 2016 02:42 _Animus_ wrote:
On July 31 2016 23:47 sixfour wrote: weird that of all of today's games that the only one worth watching features jaehoon playing well
Ssak and effort played incredibly have you not seen that? Ssak strat was perfect counter to effort to put him behind then never let him get back.
Ssak played incredibly sloppy and still won because effort never got his economy going.
What was sloppy? He never let his opponent breathe. We are talking about Effort here who gave everything and didnt gain almost nothing in the game.
Yeah, sacrificing vessels left and right because he parked them everywhere without marines as well as leaving his main entrance open to runbys 14 minutes into the game isn't sloppy. Alright. We might have watched different games then. It almost seemed to me that Ssak didn't care at all because he was so far ahead economy-wise...
well yeah at that time ssak was far ahead so he didnt care about vessels and lings, im talking about how he locked efforts possibilities in the game, played it perfectly. Effort was not expecting ssak to be that well prepared for him, he cut his 3rd, made fast wraith, denying muta and forcing hydra while imprisoning effort in his base with mines.
I thought Effort was playing ssak pretty even until close to the end, and the loss - or at least how quickly it came - was due to trying to force the game with mutas rather than switching back to dark swarm play after the goliaths started piling up too fast.
There was a lot of sloppy play on both sides: ssak was completely unable to protect his vessels, and Effort never secured the 3rd/4th properly.
It was an interesting game, but not a very well-played one, if that makes sense.
On August 01 2016 02:46 Miragee wrote: Just watched the rest of the vods. Damn, such a disappointing day. Matches were quite bad, especially the last two and all zergs lost. So we have 1 zerg in the Ro8. Awesome. -.-'
On August 01 2016 02:42 _Animus_ wrote:
On July 31 2016 23:47 sixfour wrote: weird that of all of today's games that the only one worth watching features jaehoon playing well
Ssak and effort played incredibly have you not seen that? Ssak strat was perfect counter to effort to put him behind then never let him get back.
Ssak played incredibly sloppy and still won because effort never got his economy going.
What was sloppy? He never let his opponent breathe. We are talking about Effort here who gave everything and didnt gain almost nothing in the game.
Yeah, sacrificing vessels left and right because he parked them everywhere without marines as well as leaving his main entrance open to runbys 14 minutes into the game isn't sloppy. Alright. We might have watched different games then. It almost seemed to me that Ssak didn't care at all because he was so far ahead economy-wise...
well yeah at that time ssak was far ahead so he didnt care about vessels and lings, im talking about how he locked efforts possibilities in the game, played it perfectly. Effort was not expecting ssak to be that well prepared for him, he cut his 3rd, made fast wraith, denying muta and forcing hydra while imprisoning effort in his base with mines.
I thought Effort was playing ssak pretty even until close to the end, and the loss - or at least how quickly it came - was due to trying to force the game with mutas rather than switching back to dark swarm play after the goliaths started piling up too fast.
There was a lot of sloppy play on both sides: ssak was completely unable to protect his vessels, and Effort never secured the 3rd/4th properly.
It was an interesting game, but not a very well-played one, if that makes sense.
Effort said that the game was lost when his third was delayed for so long.
I just want to say again how amazing it is to have this tournament being cast by tastosis. I don't know if they still read TL, but I hope they ratchet up the depth on their casting from time to time. It's awesome to help new people into the game, but it's also cool to show off the depth and lose them a little so they realize just how sick this game can be.
On August 02 2016 00:42 Dental Floss wrote: I just want to say again how amazing it is to have this tournament being cast by tastosis. I don't know if they still read TL, but I hope they ratchet up the depth on their casting from time to time. It's awesome to help new people into the game, but it's also cool to show off the depth and lose them a little so they realize just how sick this game can be.
I think its safe to say that Tasteless has no idea about BW anymore and has been phoning in his casting for years now anyway. He reminds me of Fred Willard in the movie Best in Show tbh
On August 02 2016 00:42 Dental Floss wrote: I just want to say again how amazing it is to have this tournament being cast by tastosis. I don't know if they still read TL, but I hope they ratchet up the depth on their casting from time to time. It's awesome to help new people into the game, but it's also cool to show off the depth and lose them a little so they realize just how sick this game can be.
I think its safe to say that Tasteless has no idea about BW anymore and has been phoning in his casting for years now anyway. He reminds me of Fred Willard in the movie Best in Show tbh
He should watch more korean streams in order to get what is in the meta. He is casting like he is from 2008 thrown into a time machine and suddenly has to cast 2016 meta games
If he watched some expro-streams like he said, I am pretty sure he knows, what the current gameplay looks like. But telling how the "meta" still changes in this day and age makes for a good story for potential newcomers. In the group stage we will have seen every match-up (except ZvZ, but with 1 remaining Zerg, that doesn't matter), so I hope they will increase the time talked about tactics and strategy with the beginning of the elimination bracket instead of consistently explaining how BW basics work.
On August 01 2016 08:03 outscar wrote: .... Feeling bad not seeing Artosis on. BW is reviving after 6 years and he gets vacation. So much passion... He is so stressed because of pashun so he goes to release it.../facepalm. Kudos to Wolf, he is really good caster (he is so serious sometimes though) and replaced him, I'm starting to get used and love TastyWolf
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Hey outscar, I dont think you should be derisive of Artosis, Dan has done more for this community than 99% of people. Also, consider that he most likely had that vacation planned for a while. You also have to consider that he has a wife and daughter, and possibly other family that he is meeting up with while on vacation. In that context, missing a few days of casting BW versus cancelling plans with your loved ones is an easy decision to make. Remember that they're planning on continuing this tournament, Tasteless constantly reminds us that they want BW back completely, these aren't just "legends matches' or a one off thing. So we'll get more Artosis casting in the future.
Personally, this is a dream come true. I never thought we would have tastosis casting BW, and yet here we are. Flash vs Sea, wow! Great games. Between BW and how good LotV is now, I dont think there's ever been a better time for SC fans.
On August 01 2016 08:03 outscar wrote: .... Feeling bad not seeing Artosis on. BW is reviving after 6 years and he gets vacation. So much passion... He is so stressed because of pashun so he goes to release it.../facepalm. Kudos to Wolf, he is really good caster (he is so serious sometimes though) and replaced him, I'm starting to get used and love TastyWolf
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Hey outscar, I dont think you should be derisive of Artosis, Dan has done more for this community than 99% of people. Also, consider that he most likely had that vacation planned for a while. You also have to consider that he has a wife and daughter, and possibly other family that he is meeting up with while on vacation. In that context, missing a few days of casting BW versus cancelling plans with your loved ones is an easy decision to make. Remember that they're planning on continuing this tournament, Tasteless constantly reminds us that they want BW back completely, these aren't just "legends matches' or a one off thing. So we'll get more Artosis casting in the future.
Personally, this is a dream come true. I never thought we would have tastosis casting BW, and yet here we are. Flash vs Sea, wow! Great games. Between BW and how good LotV is now, I dont think there's ever been a better time for SC fans.
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