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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
November 16 2015 12:22 GMT
#81
Bisu fans are gonna be happy.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
November 16 2015 12:22 GMT
#82
OH
MY
GOD
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
November 16 2015 12:23 GMT
#83
sea: offline choker?

nah...not yet
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
November 16 2015 12:23 GMT
#84
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Yes (15)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
November 16 2015 12:23 GMT
#85
Nice :D
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
ddengster
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore129 Posts
November 16 2015 12:23 GMT
#86
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol
Check out NEO Impossible Bosses, RTS-MOBA boss rush at http://neoimpossiblebosses.coder-ddeng.com
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-16 12:27:28
November 16 2015 12:26 GMT
#87
On November 16 2015 21:23 ddengster wrote:
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol

Players fight over gas expansions.
hero was running out of gas.
SK is relatively cheap per unit.
Build a few BCs. Force Zerg to spawn scourges. Less gas for units like ultralisk or defiler.
That's why hero was throwing zerglings all over the map.
But if Zerg doesn't get scourge, you rape with BCs.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
November 16 2015 12:29 GMT
#88
That game was absolutely insane. I did not see that ending coming until it happened.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
November 16 2015 12:29 GMT
#89
impressive from sea... a win is a win, especially an elimination game against hero

in hindsight, cattlebruisers were the only logical alternative after the window to switch to mech closed and bio just wasn't doing it
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
November 16 2015 12:30 GMT
#90
Epic day!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
jinhyeokhyun
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (South)18 Posts
November 16 2015 12:30 GMT
#91
On November 16 2015 21:26 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:23 ddengster wrote:
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol

Players fight over gas expansions.
hero was running out of gas.
SK is relatively cheap per unit.
Build a few BCs. Force Zerg to spawn scourges. Less gas for units like ultralisk or defiler.
That's why hero was throwing zerglings all over the map.
But if Zerg doesn't get scourge, you rape with BCs.



I see. it makes sense. I thought BCs were completely idiotic when I saw them.
TBLS
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 16 2015 12:30 GMT
#92
let the salt mines commence operations!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
November 16 2015 12:30 GMT
#93
On November 16 2015 21:23 okum wrote:
Nice :D


that game was so good it brought okum back.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8594 Posts
November 16 2015 12:35 GMT
#94
On November 16 2015 21:30 jinhyeokhyun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:26 feckless wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:23 ddengster wrote:
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol

Players fight over gas expansions.
hero was running out of gas.
SK is relatively cheap per unit.
Build a few BCs. Force Zerg to spawn scourges. Less gas for units like ultralisk or defiler.
That's why hero was throwing zerglings all over the map.
But if Zerg doesn't get scourge, you rape with BCs.



I see. it makes sense. I thought BCs were completely idiotic when I saw them.


It only makes sense if the zerg is short on gas though. If you have 4-5 or more gas as zerg it doesn't matter anymore. The gas costs to kill a battle cruiser with scourges are the same costs as for the battle cruiser. Honestly, the gas hero invested into scourges would have amounted in about 3 ultras, that's not a lot...

I think the more important fact about this game was that Sea built a massive amount of firebats when hero was short on gas.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
November 16 2015 12:37 GMT
#95
On November 16 2015 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:23 okum wrote:
Nice :D


that game was so good it brought okum back.

Hey

Never left entirely, but often seem to miss the live matches...
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
November 16 2015 12:47 GMT
#96
On November 16 2015 21:37 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:23 okum wrote:
Nice :D


that game was so good it brought okum back.

Hey

Never left entirely, but often seem to miss the live matches...


lets see if I can summon RealPenguin too.
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Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
November 16 2015 13:01 GMT
#97
On November 16 2015 21:35 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:30 jinhyeokhyun wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:26 feckless wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:23 ddengster wrote:
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol

Players fight over gas expansions.
hero was running out of gas.
SK is relatively cheap per unit.
Build a few BCs. Force Zerg to spawn scourges. Less gas for units like ultralisk or defiler.
That's why hero was throwing zerglings all over the map.
But if Zerg doesn't get scourge, you rape with BCs.



I see. it makes sense. I thought BCs were completely idiotic when I saw them.


It only makes sense if the zerg is short on gas though. If you have 4-5 or more gas as zerg it doesn't matter anymore. The gas costs to kill a battle cruiser with scourges are the same costs as for the battle cruiser. Honestly, the gas hero invested into scourges would have amounted in about 3 ultras, that's not a lot...

I think the more important fact about this game was that Sea built a massive amount of firebats when hero was short on gas.

I know the 6 is a small base land wise, but would spores be possible considering the high amount of minerals hero had?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-16 13:33:01
November 16 2015 13:30 GMT
#98
On November 16 2015 21:35 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:30 jinhyeokhyun wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:26 feckless wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:23 ddengster wrote:
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol

Players fight over gas expansions.
hero was running out of gas.
SK is relatively cheap per unit.
Build a few BCs. Force Zerg to spawn scourges. Less gas for units like ultralisk or defiler.
That's why hero was throwing zerglings all over the map.
But if Zerg doesn't get scourge, you rape with BCs.



I see. it makes sense. I thought BCs were completely idiotic when I saw them.


It only makes sense if the zerg is short on gas though. If you have 4-5 or more gas as zerg it doesn't matter anymore. The gas costs to kill a battle cruiser with scourges are the same costs as for the battle cruiser. Honestly, the gas hero invested into scourges would have amounted in about 3 ultras, that's not a lot...

I think the more important fact about this game was that Sea built a massive amount of firebats when hero was short on gas.

Define "more important". It's certainly easy to use firebats to help secure a victory. But I don't think they were the turning point. There's a reason hero was basically forced into spawning zerglings only, without much variation in units. There's a reason, then, that the firebats helped so much.

I think the BCs were a turning point, because up until then the bio play was doing damage, but wasn't working completely. hero had lost 6:00, rebuilt, and then held. Then he lost it to BCs. And then soon after he lost 12:00, too. His aggressiveness lost its momentum, and starved on gas, was basically inclined to build mostly zerglings. By both denying hero a fourth gas and then forcing him to spend necessary gas on scourges, Sea ensured the presence of less ultralisks/defilers/lurkers. Which meant more zerglings. Which meant that firebats looked like hot shit.

On November 16 2015 22:01 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:35 Miragee wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:30 jinhyeokhyun wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:26 feckless wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:23 ddengster wrote:
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol

Players fight over gas expansions.
hero was running out of gas.
SK is relatively cheap per unit.
Build a few BCs. Force Zerg to spawn scourges. Less gas for units like ultralisk or defiler.
That's why hero was throwing zerglings all over the map.
But if Zerg doesn't get scourge, you rape with BCs.



I see. it makes sense. I thought BCs were completely idiotic when I saw them.


It only makes sense if the zerg is short on gas though. If you have 4-5 or more gas as zerg it doesn't matter anymore. The gas costs to kill a battle cruiser with scourges are the same costs as for the battle cruiser. Honestly, the gas hero invested into scourges would have amounted in about 3 ultras, that's not a lot...

I think the more important fact about this game was that Sea built a massive amount of firebats when hero was short on gas.

I know the 6 is a small base land wise, but would spores be possible considering the high amount of minerals hero had?

Spores would be possible, but how viable they are is another story.
Especially considering that Sea had parked a sieged tank on the other side of the wall.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
November 16 2015 13:42 GMT
#99
I hope we could get translations on the winners interviews
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8594 Posts
November 16 2015 14:41 GMT
#100
On November 16 2015 22:01 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 21:35 Miragee wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:30 jinhyeokhyun wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:26 feckless wrote:
On November 16 2015 21:23 ddengster wrote:
how did sea go cattlebruisers and win that lol

Players fight over gas expansions.
hero was running out of gas.
SK is relatively cheap per unit.
Build a few BCs. Force Zerg to spawn scourges. Less gas for units like ultralisk or defiler.
That's why hero was throwing zerglings all over the map.
But if Zerg doesn't get scourge, you rape with BCs.



I see. it makes sense. I thought BCs were completely idiotic when I saw them.


It only makes sense if the zerg is short on gas though. If you have 4-5 or more gas as zerg it doesn't matter anymore. The gas costs to kill a battle cruiser with scourges are the same costs as for the battle cruiser. Honestly, the gas hero invested into scourges would have amounted in about 3 ultras, that's not a lot...

I think the more important fact about this game was that Sea built a massive amount of firebats when hero was short on gas.

I know the 6 is a small base land wise, but would spores be possible considering the high amount of minerals hero had?


I don't have any experience with this but I don't think it would have been a good idea. First of siege tanks are able to siege a big area of the 6 so that shrinks the area to build spores by a lot. He had 2 Battlecruisers and you need 3-4 spores firing simultaniously at them to win. I don't think it's possible to build so many spore there. And even if, the battlecruisers only have one range less than spores so you can always approach from one side and kill off the spores.
That's not even including yamatos. And I honestly don't know if hero really had that much minerals. I assume he had just not enough gas but an appropiate amount of minerals.

@feckless: Sorry, I'll come to you later, I'm running out of time.
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