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spammerA
Profile Joined July 2006
China355 Posts
December 02 2006 14:59 GMT
#221
What does the yellow encircled "12" on the top right corner mean?
AyOnY
Profile Joined July 2006
Pitcairn1026 Posts
December 02 2006 15:01 GMT
#222
On December 02 2006 23:59 HonestTea wrote:
Could someone please explain for me what happened?

Was that just exceptional timing by Midas?

Pusan pulled his troops back. Midas attacked, pusan's army separated, half blocked off by mines and midas took out the other half, midas gradually pushed in w/ mines tanks and pusan lost his goons gg
GoRush fan~
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 02 2006 15:01 GMT
#223
On December 02 2006 23:59 Last Romantic wrote:
Pusan got raped really, really hard. He went for a really greedy expo, and I suppose instead of researching mode midas just got more tanks w/o siege... and raped. really, really hard. I don't even know what that build was, but it destroyed.

yeah i thought he was getting siege right away but after mines started going down was surprised not to see any siege come out ....

that was a real do or die build by pusan. ...he definitely died
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
December 02 2006 15:03 GMT
#224
I think everyone (even his opponents) just expects an FD from Midas every single game. Midas actually kinda faked one at the start, with a halfhearted poke near his natural with 4 rines, one scv and a tank. Presumably Pusan just fell for it
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 02 2006 15:04 GMT
#225
Hurray for our new TvP BO! FFD ftw~
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 02 2006 15:04 GMT
#226
hmm so did pusan take his 2nd expo really early or what?
those reports were confusing x.x
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-02 15:08:11
December 02 2006 15:07 GMT
#227
On December 03 2006 00:04 Plexa wrote:
hmm so did pusan take his 2nd expo really early or what?
those reports were confusing x.x

thats exactly what happened..i think pusan felt he could contain midas until it went down ....he didn't even start to cannon it though because the nexus was half done when midas broke the contain and started to advance on the xpansion. By that time it was just a 50:50 chance where pusan had to defend the best he could but by that time was already fucked due to midas's build
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 02 2006 15:08 GMT
#228
On December 03 2006 00:04 Plexa wrote:
hmm so did pusan take his 2nd expo really early or what?
those reports were confusing x.x


Ah, sorry.

midas went for 2fac with shop, speed, mine, no mode, moved out with like five tanks five vults. pusan got nat with like six goons. mines split pusan's army, half of it died to tank fire/mines, other half retreated to join reinforcements from his main. however, midas army too strong and it forced pusan to cancel nexus. then some more nice mine/tank micro and pusan lost everything.

last minute or so was just vultures and tanks slaughtering a mass of probes, pusan couldn't move up his dragoons because of mines. eventually midas just killed last dragoon with tank/vult and pusan surrendered.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
December 02 2006 15:09 GMT
#229
Ok so I organized it in my head.

Midas fakes the FD and instead goes 2-fac with marines.

Pusan gets 2-gates, than (and here is his mistake) went for reavers while expanding at his nat. Midas' push was excellently timed, coming with unseiged tanks, speed+mine vultures, and marines. To block that Pusan should've went 3-gate, mixing in some zeals. If he had chosen only one of either the robo or the 2nd nexus he could've had a chance. Instead he got greedy, taking robo tech and nexus with only 2 gates and resting goon production.

Granted, he did have around 9 goons at that time, so it might have looked safe. But Midas had two facs, plus a handful of marines to make the difference.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 02 2006 15:09 GMT
#230
oov was just given a weekly MVP ...im not sure what for
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 02 2006 15:09 GMT
#231
You never cannon a FE in PvT.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 02 2006 15:10 GMT
#232
ahic, thanks guys

itwas just all over so fast haha
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GarlicPepper
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States563 Posts
December 02 2006 15:11 GMT
#233
Poor Yellow.. He's been on a really bad run lately, I think he needs a fellow Zerg player to him help out, someone who could go over the games with him and make suggestions, a Savior if you will.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
December 02 2006 15:12 GMT
#234
The best Pusan could have done in that situation was to take his goons out to Midas' nat and greet the push as far away from his base as possible. Then he could have sniped some vultures and marines while retreating, and make Midas waste his mines. I'm 100% certain that with reinforcements on the way, Pusan could have blocked Midas' push that way.

So, Pusan had bad fighting and bad army management to top off the bad build. I don't know what happened to this guy.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 02 2006 15:12 GMT
#235
On December 03 2006 00:09 HonestTea wrote:
Ok so I organized it in my head.

Midas fakes the FD and instead goes 2-fac with marines.

Pusan gets 2-gates, than (and here is his mistake) went for reavers while expanding at his nat. Midas' push was excellently timed, coming with unseiged tanks, speed+mine vultures, and marines. To block that Pusan should've went 3-gate, mixing in some zeals. If he had chosen only one of either the robo or the 2nd nexus he could've had a chance. Instead he got greedy, taking robo tech and nexus with only 2 gates and resting goon production.

Granted, he did have around 9 goons at that time, so it might have looked safe. But Midas had two facs, plus a handful of marines to make the difference.


I wasn't watching too carefully, but I think he didn't put up support bay until after Midas was already in his main. The robo/obs bay still cost money he could've used for troops out of a third gateway though, so your point still stands.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
December 02 2006 15:12 GMT
#236
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-02 15:14:25
December 02 2006 15:13 GMT
#237
On December 03 2006 00:11 GarlicPepper wrote:
Poor Yellow.. He's been on a really bad run lately, I think he needs a fellow Zerg player to him help out, someone who could go over the games with him and make suggestions, a Savior if you will.


He's got ChOJJa to help out his zvp.

He's starting to slump in zvt, too, though... which is odd, considering that's his best mu. T-T

He hasn't changed much as a player, just everyone else has trained to beat his style. He also spends too much time as lifeisjust.

Oh yeah, when I told him that poker = bad, he ignored me XD
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-02 15:15:47
December 02 2006 15:14 GMT
#238
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AyOnY
Profile Joined July 2006
Pitcairn1026 Posts
December 02 2006 15:15 GMT
#239
On December 03 2006 00:12 HonestTea wrote:
The best Pusan could have done in that situation was to take his goons out to Midas' nat and greet the push as far away from his base as possible. Then he could have sniped some vultures and marines while retreating, and make Midas waste his mines. I'm 100% certain that with reinforcements on the way, Pusan could have blocked Midas' push that way.

So, Pusan had bad fighting and bad army management to top off the bad build. I don't know what happened to this guy.

Well everything except the build was ok. The build wasn't that bad just PuSan retreated his units ALL the way back to his base.
GoRush fan~
AyOnY
Profile Joined July 2006
Pitcairn1026 Posts
December 02 2006 15:16 GMT
#240
On December 02 2006 23:59 spammerA wrote:
What does the yellow encircled "12" on the top right corner mean?

I think it's the tv channel.
GoRush fan~
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