EPT[SSL] Grand Finals - Page 63
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thezanursic
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neptunusfisk
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On March 16 2014 03:21 thezanursic wrote: Sayle's VODs are available. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20996870 | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2056 Posts
 as much as anyone could have hoped for, although I guess i hoped hero could pull it off lol. Game 5 looked like his plan was thrown way off bcuz of the 2gate opening and he tried to play close base style with a far 3rd :p | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ... the problem is Bisu is just on another planet ... and last game proved it! | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
Oh man i rly love 2gate opening. It was the norm long time ago | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
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Dodgin
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On March 16 2014 05:30 Xiphos wrote: The 2 gate last game was really risky but yet Bisu managed to pull it off. that's some impressive planning. I wonder if it had to do anything with hero not knowing how to react to it or something. I mean, he ended up getting rolled after easily defending it and putting Bisu behind ><; | ||
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:03 BigFan wrote: I wonder if it had to do anything with hero not knowing how to react to it or something. I mean, he ended up getting rolled after easily defending it and putting Bisu behind ><; It would make sense. Its like boxing. Forge Expand is the equivalent of playing conservative while 2 Gate is more of a Mike Tyson's all out aggressive style. hero probably was expecting something different and then couldn't wrap his head in time in order to figure out a proper strat to counter it. Overally hero's play at game 5 did everything he was able to do mechanically speaking but faltered in the strategical department. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:12 Rodiel3 wrote: This 2 gate build beside not doing much direct damage delayed hero 3rd/tech It also forced out A LOT of lings to counter any potential Zealot run-bys, crippling larva economy further. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On March 16 2014 08:35 Xiphos wrote: It would make sense. Its like boxing. Forge Expand is the equivalent of playing conservative while 2 Gate is more of a Mike Tyson's all out aggressive style. hero probably was expecting something different and then couldn't wrap his head in time in order to figure out a proper strat to counter it. Overally hero's play at game 5 did everything he was able to do mechanically speaking but faltered in the strategical department. ya but as someone who was cheering for hero, it was heartbreaking to see :/ | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
At the time; Hero had overlord speed, full hydra upgrades, lurker aspect (some morphing) and 5hatcheries. Bisu only sent 7zlots and a goon (+1 just finished before he engaged) he then had the 5 gates, a stargate and leg speed just finished (no high templar). Bisu didnt reinforce right away either, so assuming Hero deflected it, Bisu has no robotics or storm to defend Hero's counter and will be contained for probably the remainder of the game or just die to hydra lurk. edit: the 2gw build didn't do much and put him behind, it was also predictable as he did some 1 base vs Larva in the semi finals, and the follow up wasn't that great (did he really even have a plan for this BO?) | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
Bisu said in the post-game interview that the build was planned, and was meant to pressure the Zerg and not to end the game straight up. So it seems it went exactly as he wanted it. Kind of hard to say that it "didn't do much" and "put him behind" when he also had the next steps planned out, and everything worked his way. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On March 16 2014 10:00 dRaW wrote: You guys all know that Bisu was quite behind when he did that timing attack? The only reason it worked was, because if you look at the mini map, Hero was out of position with half his army near his third (so I guess he didn't see the attack coming?) At the time; Hero had overlord speed, full hydra upgrades, lurker aspect (some morphing) and 5hatcheries. Bisu only sent 7zlots and a goon (+1 just finished before he engaged) he then had the 5 gates, a stargate and leg speed just finished (no high templar). Bisu didnt reinforce right away either, so assuming Hero deflected it, Bisu has no robotics or storm to defend Hero's counter and will be contained for probably the remainder of the game or just die to hydra lurk. edit: the 2gw build didn't do much and put him behind, it was also predictable as he did some 1 base vs Larva in the semi finals, and the follow up wasn't that great (did he really even have a plan for this BO?) Hero was expecting the attack not at the main but at the 3rd, he had moved his hydra army from his nat to his third after pushing out for map control; also the sairs were harassing at the bottom and he hadn't built his spore yet, so he had weak air defenses, and probably expected a zealot+sair attack there. Bisu's play on this map is a 2gate with lots to more zealot pressure on the nat/3rd depending on how well the first attack went, and threatening either a speed and/or a +1 timing attack with his composition, while he expands and builds a sair fleet behind it. It relies on forcing either sunks or lots of lings from the opponent (which both happened) to keep him even on the ground. On this specific game, he was already building towards a reaver (IIRC Support Bay was already warping in during that attack) when he launched it, fully expecting that IF he didn't face hero's army at the main (where his lots get wiped), he'd have a reaver w/ shuttle out by the time they hit his natural, counting on his micro to keep both alive and break any contain. | ||
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