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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 28 2013 01:39 GMT
#361
On February 28 2013 10:21 ghrur wrote:
Might I suggest Circuit Breaker instead of Fighting Spirit? That's a standard, balanced map yet varied enough to make for very different games.


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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
February 28 2013 01:49 GMT
#362
On February 28 2013 10:39 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 10:21 ghrur wrote:
Might I suggest Circuit Breaker instead of Fighting Spirit? That's a standard, balanced map yet varied enough to make for very different games.


<3

Why not have both? I don't see the downside of a bigger map pool with more map vetoes.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 02:52:39
February 28 2013 02:35 GMT
#363
On February 28 2013 09:49 Jealous wrote:
These are two of our new additions to Sun Kan, I am posting this more for my benefit than any official purpose, so I can keep track easier.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)

EDIT: They don't have TL accounts, but I am friends with them on FB so I can stay in touch easily.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)
NewJetCity (D+)

EDIT In case it wasn't clear (I saw someone update the LP), but

sGs.XKCD (D)

Is also back in the team but playing a different race this season.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
February 28 2013 03:15 GMT
#364
On February 28 2013 11:35 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 09:49 Jealous wrote:
These are two of our new additions to Sun Kan, I am posting this more for my benefit than any official purpose, so I can keep track easier.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)

EDIT: They don't have TL accounts, but I am friends with them on FB so I can stay in touch easily.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)
NewJetCity (D+)

EDIT In case it wasn't clear (I saw someone update the LP), but

sGs.XKCD (D)

Is also back in the team but playing a different race this season.


Don't mean to sound like an anal douche, but wouldn't it be simpler to say that KingGeedorah is that ZvT's?

And aww yeah, Xkcd has found the true way to Terran... No more imba Zerg.

Anyways, it looks like SunKan has 7 players, putting them at the "minimum" that we all set with 7. Thanks to BaBo, it looks like we have enough free agents to put every team at the 7 players we all want, plus a bit more... Maybe after every team reaches 8, teams are randomly selected to pick out the remaining free agents, or just leave it at the team with the least number of players filling up their teams will free agents?
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
February 28 2013 03:16 GMT
#365
On February 28 2013 10:38 SynC[gm] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 10:31 L_Master wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:32 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:20 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?


Im advocating for the BMWN maps to be used.


Two of the BWMN maps are being used, the two that were added to the ICCup mappack. Outsider and Destination were removed.

I thought I posted that about a week ago...maybe it didn't go through.


Updating OP is the best way to update. And there were 3 maps that were added, Gemlong, Resonance, and DeserTec.


DeserTec is pretty sketchy in terms of balance and many new players might not like the force field mechanic used so much...I approve of using those two BWMN maps tho hope to see some interesting games in Resonance II and Gemlong...
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 03:38:38
February 28 2013 03:33 GMT
#366
On February 28 2013 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 11:35 Jealous wrote:
On February 28 2013 09:49 Jealous wrote:
These are two of our new additions to Sun Kan, I am posting this more for my benefit than any official purpose, so I can keep track easier.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)

EDIT: They don't have TL accounts, but I am friends with them on FB so I can stay in touch easily.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)
NewJetCity (D+)

EDIT In case it wasn't clear (I saw someone update the LP), but

sGs.XKCD (D)

Is also back in the team but playing a different race this season.


Don't mean to sound like an anal douche, but wouldn't it be simpler to say that KingGeedorah is that ZvT's?

And aww yeah, Xkcd has found the true way to Terran... No more imba Zerg.

Anyways, it looks like SunKan has 7 players, putting them at the "minimum" that we all set with 7. Thanks to BaBo, it looks like we have enough free agents to put every team at the 7 players we all want, plus a bit more... Maybe after every team reaches 8, teams are randomly selected to pick out the remaining free agents, or just leave it at the team with the least number of players filling up their teams will free agents?

I also want to remind everyone that we are waiting on the additional player that thezanursic said might be joining our team, and we are awaiting an official ruling on puppykiller, because if he is allowed to play then because I've known him for a while I requested that he join our team and not participate in the draft as a player of no affiliation (he is also interested in joining our team).

I do want to make it known on pebble's behalf that he is against having puppykiller in DRTL, but if he is accepted into DRTL is okay with having him on our team (pending a team vote). I think that the reason why puppykiller should be granted an exception while other players in similar situations have not is because he isn't just guesstimating his rank with his offrace, but has actually laddered a fair number of games and has posted results consistent with this league's requirements. Here is his ladder account in case you are interested:

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/BigSandwich88.html

If I understand correctly, I think that his season 20 stats are from him playing Terran, but this was also a long time ago. I feel that combined with this evidence and the fact that other former high-rank players have been allowed based on current form and results, there isn't much of a reason to deny puppykiller entry into the league. Will await an official decision ofc.

EDIT: Obviously if we collect puppykiller and potentially the other player, that will push Sun Kan a lot farther away from drafting possibilities, and I'm glad that the added players could help other teams pick up a sufficient amount of players.

EDIT 2: @Sync I just posted Geedorah's MUs as he sent them to me on FB ^^
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 03:43:32
February 28 2013 03:34 GMT
#367
On February 28 2013 10:31 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:32 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:20 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?


Im advocating for the BMWN maps to be used.


Two of the BWMN maps are being used, the two that were added to the ICCup mappack. Outsider and Destination were removed.

I thought I posted that about a week ago...maybe it didn't go through.

Which 2? Too lazy to sift through which 2 you added. ICCup added 3 maps which were from BMWN.

On February 28 2013 12:33 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 11:35 Jealous wrote:
On February 28 2013 09:49 Jealous wrote:
These are two of our new additions to Sun Kan, I am posting this more for my benefit than any official purpose, so I can keep track easier.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)

EDIT: They don't have TL accounts, but I am friends with them on FB so I can stay in touch easily.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)
NewJetCity (D+)

EDIT In case it wasn't clear (I saw someone update the LP), but

sGs.XKCD (D)

Is also back in the team but playing a different race this season.


Don't mean to sound like an anal douche, but wouldn't it be simpler to say that KingGeedorah is that ZvT's?

And aww yeah, Xkcd has found the true way to Terran... No more imba Zerg.

Anyways, it looks like SunKan has 7 players, putting them at the "minimum" that we all set with 7. Thanks to BaBo, it looks like we have enough free agents to put every team at the 7 players we all want, plus a bit more... Maybe after every team reaches 8, teams are randomly selected to pick out the remaining free agents, or just leave it at the team with the least number of players filling up their teams will free agents?

I also want to remind everyone that we are waiting on the additional player that thezanursic said might be joining our team, and we are awaiting an official ruling on puppykiller, because if he is allowed to play then because I've known him for a while I requested that he join our team and not participate in the draft as a player of no affiliation (he is also interested in joining our team).

I do want to make it known on pebble's behalf that he is against having puppykiller in DRTL, but if he is accepted into DRTL is okay with having him on our team (pending a team vote). I think that the reason why puppykiller should be granted an exception while other players in similar situations have not is because he isn't just guesstimating his rank with his offrace, but has actually laddered a fair number of games and has posted results consistent with this league's requirements. Here is his ladder account in case you are interested:

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/BigSandwich88.html

If I understand correctly, I think that his season 20 stats are from him playing Terran, but this was also a long time ago. I feel that combined with this evidence and the fact that other former high-rank players have been allowed based on current form and results, there isn't much of a reason to deny puppykiller entry into the league. Will await an official decision ofc.

EDIT: Obviously if we collect puppykiller and potentially the other player, that will push Sun Kan a lot farther away from drafting possibilities, and I'm glad that the added players could help other teams pick up a sufficient amount of players.

Rofl, the fact that pk even brushes with C- with his OFFRACE is enough for me to be against him joining. Artanis himself hasn't even hit C- with Z (his main race was P iirc) and he's already voluntarily taken himself off.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
February 28 2013 03:40 GMT
#368
Yea the season 20 stats were me with terran I think a year ago. Actually my terran is low enough now that it would almost qualify for the league but I would rather play zerg because its more fun for me to learn a new race.

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/puppykiller.html

My current terran for reference...
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 28 2013 05:34 GMT
#369
Probably going to removed some map (Sniper/Jade/CB) and add in Pamir Plateur.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 28 2013 05:36 GMT
#370
On February 28 2013 12:34 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 10:31 L_Master wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:32 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:20 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?


Im advocating for the BMWN maps to be used.


Two of the BWMN maps are being used, the two that were added to the ICCup mappack. Outsider and Destination were removed.

I thought I posted that about a week ago...maybe it didn't go through.

Which 2? Too lazy to sift through which 2 you added. ICCup added 3 maps which were from BMWN.


Gemlong and Resonance.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
February 28 2013 05:51 GMT
#371
On February 28 2013 12:34 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 10:31 L_Master wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:32 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:20 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?


Im advocating for the BMWN maps to be used.


Two of the BWMN maps are being used, the two that were added to the ICCup mappack. Outsider and Destination were removed.

I thought I posted that about a week ago...maybe it didn't go through.

Which 2? Too lazy to sift through which 2 you added. ICCup added 3 maps which were from BMWN.

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 12:33 Jealous wrote:
On February 28 2013 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 11:35 Jealous wrote:
On February 28 2013 09:49 Jealous wrote:
These are two of our new additions to Sun Kan, I am posting this more for my benefit than any official purpose, so I can keep track easier.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)

EDIT: They don't have TL accounts, but I am friends with them on FB so I can stay in touch easily.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)
NewJetCity (D+)

EDIT In case it wasn't clear (I saw someone update the LP), but

sGs.XKCD (D)

Is also back in the team but playing a different race this season.


Don't mean to sound like an anal douche, but wouldn't it be simpler to say that KingGeedorah is that ZvT's?

And aww yeah, Xkcd has found the true way to Terran... No more imba Zerg.

Anyways, it looks like SunKan has 7 players, putting them at the "minimum" that we all set with 7. Thanks to BaBo, it looks like we have enough free agents to put every team at the 7 players we all want, plus a bit more... Maybe after every team reaches 8, teams are randomly selected to pick out the remaining free agents, or just leave it at the team with the least number of players filling up their teams will free agents?

I also want to remind everyone that we are waiting on the additional player that thezanursic said might be joining our team, and we are awaiting an official ruling on puppykiller, because if he is allowed to play then because I've known him for a while I requested that he join our team and not participate in the draft as a player of no affiliation (he is also interested in joining our team).

I do want to make it known on pebble's behalf that he is against having puppykiller in DRTL, but if he is accepted into DRTL is okay with having him on our team (pending a team vote). I think that the reason why puppykiller should be granted an exception while other players in similar situations have not is because he isn't just guesstimating his rank with his offrace, but has actually laddered a fair number of games and has posted results consistent with this league's requirements. Here is his ladder account in case you are interested:

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/BigSandwich88.html

If I understand correctly, I think that his season 20 stats are from him playing Terran, but this was also a long time ago. I feel that combined with this evidence and the fact that other former high-rank players have been allowed based on current form and results, there isn't much of a reason to deny puppykiller entry into the league. Will await an official decision ofc.

EDIT: Obviously if we collect puppykiller and potentially the other player, that will push Sun Kan a lot farther away from drafting possibilities, and I'm glad that the added players could help other teams pick up a sufficient amount of players.

Rofl, the fact that pk even brushes with C- with his OFFRACE is enough for me to be against him joining. Artanis himself hasn't even hit C- with Z (his main race was P iirc) and he's already voluntarily taken himself off.

But at the end of the day, if we ignore what someone's reputation is and just look at results, how are his stats any less acceptable than other players who brush C- in the league? o_O
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
February 28 2013 05:55 GMT
#372
On February 28 2013 14:34 L_Master wrote:
Probably going to removed some map (Sniper/Jade/CB) and add in Pamir Plateur.


What the heck is Pamir Pleateur...? O.o
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 28 2013 05:59 GMT
#373
On February 28 2013 14:55 SynC[gm] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 14:34 L_Master wrote:
Probably going to removed some map (Sniper/Jade/CB) and add in Pamir Plateur.


What the heck is Pamir Pleateur...? O.o

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400068#maps
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 06:20:23
February 28 2013 06:20 GMT
#374
On February 28 2013 14:59 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 14:55 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 14:34 L_Master wrote:
Probably going to removed some map (Sniper/Jade/CB) and add in Pamir Plateur.


What the heck is Pamir Pleateur...? O.o

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400068#maps

Wow, be fuckin' careful with your gateway placement vs. T on this shit.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
February 28 2013 06:54 GMT
#375
I personally think it looks a lot more interesting than CB.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
February 28 2013 06:57 GMT
#376
On February 28 2013 15:54 CobaltBlu wrote:
I personally think it looks a lot more interesting than CB.

Looks like a free win as T, i say this map should be in
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 08:07:56
February 28 2013 08:07 GMT
#377
Implement Gemlong, Grand Line and Circuit Breaker and ill be the happiest person ever

awesome and interesting maps too! so its totally worth it !
T H C makes ppl happy
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
February 28 2013 10:27 GMT
#378
On February 28 2013 14:59 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 14:55 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 14:34 L_Master wrote:
Probably going to removed some map (Sniper/Jade/CB) and add in Pamir Plateur.


What the heck is Pamir Pleateur...? O.o

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400068#maps

as a terran I vote yes for Pamir Plateau.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2608 Posts
February 28 2013 11:19 GMT
#379
Gemlong should be implemented imho. Really nice map, played some 2on2 on it, while it was MotW. Dunno how it is in 1on1, but since it is really similar to FS (imho), I cannot imagine it being bad.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
February 28 2013 13:04 GMT
#380
i Rather have Gemlong instead of pamir plateu.
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