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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
February 27 2013 21:25 GMT
#341
we should also have gods garden, neo medusa, andromeda, outsider, and tears of the protoss
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
February 27 2013 21:28 GMT
#342
On February 28 2013 06:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 06:08 arb wrote:
On February 28 2013 06:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
If there is a map you should take out it should be Fighting Spirit, imo. Some of the older maps like Destination should also go.

Replace with like...Dante's Peak, La Mancha, Ground Zero

Id much rather see shit like Jade and stuff go, and replace with some of the older more fun maps personally.


Is it because you're a dirty Terran?

HBR, Matchpoint sound like fine additions. I just wouldn't like watching games with Fighting Spirit and Destination in there because those are maps everyone seems familiar with and are just very boring now. I get enough snipealot fighting spirit games.

Destination is pretty swell imo, i can agree i really hate even looking at FS anymore.

HBR wouldnt be too bad, id like to see Longi and stuff like that too though.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 27 2013 22:13 GMT
#343
I don' t understand anymore why people are saying Sunkan Should merge with Phoenix or DeSPA. Neither persons or captains from any of those 2 teams said they wanted to merge, though if really necessary, then merging should be done.

The fact that we are having more new players sign up is quite a good thing, From previous seasons playing on Sun Kan, we never flat out dropped games even though our roster contained of only 5-6 players at most for a bo7. If people are signing up to play, then they show that they want to make commitments to this league. Walkovers will happen. It's a part of life playing brood war. Shit happens. It happens in every league, whether it be a bo7 or a bo3 between 2 guys. I don't think reducing match length is going to stop walkovers, but rather reduce the amount of players that can play.

Less matches necessarily creates less walkovers than more matches, this is a fact. If you have 4 people who can play on a day, and its a Bo5, you have 1 walk over. If its a bo7, you have 3 walk overs. This is simple math.

Talk of SunKan or Despa being made it merge is because previously, one of those teams had ONE player on them, and the other team had TWO. And we barely have enough free agents to get teams to the bare minimum they need. It only makes sense to merge them if we don't have enough players to fill the team.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 22:38:05
February 27 2013 22:36 GMT
#344
On maps:

If we're gonna play maps that are unusual, have little testing, are blatantly imbalanced, *please* have some sort of map rotation. I remember one season... I think it was DRTL3 where we had Chain Reaction, Jade, and Gladiator all in the same pool. Imagine how difficult it was to send poor Terrans out in an environment with 40-50% Protoss players and 60% maps that drastically favor P>T. I feel like Kipsate, a Terran, quit our team pretty rapidly because he just couldn't stand TvP, especially on those maps. Of course it could all just be the allure of DotA2 but that's another story...

Please please please think about maps carefully before just throwing in whatever seems cool.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 27 2013 22:46 GMT
#345
On February 28 2013 07:36 EchOne wrote:
On maps:

If we're gonna play maps that are unusual, have little testing, are blatantly imbalanced, *please* have some sort of map rotation. I remember one season... I think it was DRTL3 where we had Chain Reaction, Jade, and Gladiator all in the same pool. Imagine how difficult it was to send poor Terrans out in an environment with 40-50% Protoss players and 60% maps that drastically favor P>T. I feel like Kipsate, a Terran, quit our team pretty rapidly because he just couldn't stand TvP, especially on those maps. Of course it could all just be the allure of DotA2 but that's another story...

Please please please think about maps carefully before just throwing in whatever seems cool.

I strongly agree with this. Balance should be given consideration before all else when choosing maps.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
February 27 2013 23:14 GMT
#346
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 27 2013 23:15 GMT
#347
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 23:21:04
February 27 2013 23:20 GMT
#348
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces

I dont think anything would make me happier than collecting free TvZ wins on RH3
I do agree with adding some of the more balanced older maps in. Seeing FS and some of the shit maps we got now is kinda boring imo.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
February 27 2013 23:20 GMT
#349
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 27 2013 23:32 GMT
#350
On February 28 2013 08:20 SynC[gm] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?


Im advocating for the BMWN maps to be used.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
February 27 2013 23:39 GMT
#351
On February 28 2013 06:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
If there is a map you should take out it should be Fighting Spirit, imo. Some of the older maps like Destination should also go.

Replace with like...Dante's Peak, La Mancha, Ground Zero

Calm down there Pucca.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10156 Posts
February 27 2013 23:55 GMT
#352
On February 28 2013 08:39 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 06:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
If there is a map you should take out it should be Fighting Spirit, imo. Some of the older maps like Destination should also go.

Replace with like...Dante's Peak, La Mancha, Ground Zero

Calm down there Pucca.

Seconded. FS must remain in the map pool. It is the most balanced map that everyone knows. If people who are pressed for time and need to be in the line-up, they can be put on FS because they don't need to learn the map or fail trying to get ladder games on the weird maps in the little time they have left.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
February 27 2013 23:56 GMT
#353
Hitchhiker, Judgement Day and Holy World !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
February 27 2013 23:57 GMT
#354
On February 28 2013 06:19 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 06:10 rauk wrote:
i vote for 2008-10 maps like holy world, match point, and hbr huehue

Hahaha triathalon please. Soo that I can go practice some funky mind control builds and go super fast arbs.

it was an awesome map

yes please !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
February 28 2013 00:02 GMT
#355
On February 28 2013 08:55 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:39 Nagisama wrote:
On February 28 2013 06:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
If there is a map you should take out it should be Fighting Spirit, imo. Some of the older maps like Destination should also go.

Replace with like...Dante's Peak, La Mancha, Ground Zero

Calm down there Pucca.

Seconded. FS must remain in the map pool. It is the most balanced map that everyone knows. If people who are pressed for time and need to be in the line-up, they can be put on FS because they don't need to learn the map or fail trying to get ladder games on the weird maps in the little time they have left.

Agreed. The pool needs at least one basic map in case players get busy and don't have time to learn new maps for whatever reason.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10156 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 00:49:54
February 28 2013 00:49 GMT
#356
These are two of our new additions to Sun Kan, I am posting this more for my benefit than any official purpose, so I can keep track easier.

ImAtTheBeach (D+)
v, v, v KingGeedorah (D+)

EDIT: They don't have TL accounts, but I am friends with them on FB so I can stay in touch easily.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
February 28 2013 01:21 GMT
#357
Might I suggest Circuit Breaker instead of Fighting Spirit? That's a standard, balanced map yet varied enough to make for very different games.
darkness overpowering
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
February 28 2013 01:22 GMT
#358
On February 28 2013 08:56 Sinedd wrote:
Hitchhiker, Judgement Day and Holy World !!!

Hitchhiker lol. Easy mode TvZ.

The map pool looks fine to me. Icarus would be fun though. And maybe Colosseum. Anyway, I hope that the the pool will be static, so 5 maps, or maybe a fixed rotation with 7. Otherwise, there will be too many maps to practice imo.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 28 2013 01:31 GMT
#359
On February 28 2013 08:32 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:20 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?


Im advocating for the BMWN maps to be used.


Two of the BWMN maps are being used, the two that were added to the ICCup mappack. Outsider and Destination were removed.

I thought I posted that about a week ago...maybe it didn't go through.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
February 28 2013 01:38 GMT
#360
On February 28 2013 10:31 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:32 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:20 SynC[gm] wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:15 Sentenal wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:14 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I agree on using some 2007 - 2010 maps but only the balanced ones. Rotating pool would be cool. Rush Hour 3 IMHO =p

I thought you said only the balanced onces


The "=p" was probably the part where he was joking...

But yeah, I do agree that maps like Fighting Spirit should be removed. It might be a rather balanced map in terms of natural matchup advantages, where P>T>Z>P, but it hardly shows any innovative play that might inspire other players to go for...

Maps like Tau Cross, Andromeda, and Triathlon... Heck, why not add some BMWN, like Gemlong or Resonance?


Im advocating for the BMWN maps to be used.


Two of the BWMN maps are being used, the two that were added to the ICCup mappack. Outsider and Destination were removed.

I thought I posted that about a week ago...maybe it didn't go through.


Updating OP is the best way to update. And there were 3 maps that were added, Gemlong, Resonance, and DeserTec.
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