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FT.aCt)BeyOnd
Profile Joined April 2006
United States33 Posts
April 28 2006 02:36 GMT
#461
Also, I know that A- isn't much to a pro gamer, but Love has lost alot of his talent for this game, and has no time to regain the lost skill. He has lost to numerous players of low ranking since his PGT in 07, however has been able to keep above many A+ gamers. Once again, his quote:
"I can beat everyone, but I can also lose to everyone" is quite fitting. However, given time to train, he would no longer "lose to everyone".

Gl-_-Hf('-'Gg^-^yO
Final Training - art Control Team Master
FT.aCt)BeyOnd
Profile Joined April 2006
United States33 Posts
April 28 2006 02:40 GMT
#462
The ones who tend to dodge are most likely trying to keep their records for fame.. however a simple matchlist check could show that they have not beaten the better gamers out there. In my opinion, gamers should just play PGT for training, dodging only possibly the lower skilled gamers. Play WCG and other major tournaments for respect, and play PGT/WGT to prepare for it.

Gl-_-Hf('-'Gg^-^yO
Final Training - art Control Team Master
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-28 03:30:43
April 28 2006 03:27 GMT
#463
On April 28 2006 09:21 FT.aCt)BeyOnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2006 22:18 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Apparently all you people calling me a moron don't understand that he didn't join a fucking SC clan with which he DOESN'T GAME so he could LEARN ENGLISH. He's living in the United States to study, you think he's trying to learn English through starcraft? ROFL.


For the last time, when I say moron, I am refering to those who do NOT know what they are talking about (ie: he didn't join a fucking SC clan with which he DOESN'T GAME so he could LEARN ENGLISH)

-FT.aCt) used to have majority of koreans(when love joined) (how would you know?)
-He does game with members (how would you know?)
-He didn't join to learn english (how would you know?)

Please, if you don't know what you are talking about, don't comment.

As for testie's post about anything less than an A+ being no challenge to a pro gamer, this might be true for top pro gamers.

Love, however, is no where near his peak with a lack of practice, and is able to lose to lower ranking gamers.

Here is a current quote by FT.aCt)Love:

"I can beat everyone but I can also lose to everyone"

I think this is quite appropriate, especially at his current state.

Also, TL admins, why do you allow lack of manner in your forums?

I suggest you put forth a bit more effort to keep forums clean. I'd have much more respect for this website.

Gl-_-Hf('-'Gg^-^yO

--;
I'd have a lot more respect for YOU if you didn't come off as oversensitive and arrogant.

Love himself told someone he joined to learn english, unless my memory is failing me, that's why people think so.

Are there bm people on this site? Sure. Are there idiots on this site? Sure.

There are these kinds of people on any site, but not exactly a lot of it in this thread, and your statements about this site is imo worse than anything that's been said by members of it.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
UseYourBusteR_br
Profile Joined April 2005
Brazil84 Posts
April 28 2006 04:53 GMT
#464
testie is right
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
April 28 2006 04:59 GMT
#465
So its better to have (for example) B- playing koreans and not dodging, instead of A and searching opponents etc..


Yeah i saw that most koreans with Ratio 50-60% play ALOT better than even 90-95% winratio Foreigners O_O
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
April 28 2006 05:02 GMT
#466
I originally said that Love joined to learn english (because I had thought that I had heard that from beyond). But at this point I honestly have no idea why he joined. I can't help but wonder if it's partly his healthy sense of humor (whether or not we're "good" now is irrelevant... when he joined, he joined through a public game tryout). Are we good now? Sure, we're much better than 2 months ago and still improving. Are we the kind of team that sasin)yeon would join because of the skill level? No, not at all, and I don't consider that an insult in any way.

Again, enter "join ft.act to be teamed with yeon" advertisement here.
iD.SquaLL
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Spain250 Posts
April 28 2006 05:18 GMT
#467
who is Buzz[Aegis]?
Don't take offense, better make amends, rip it all to shreds and let it go
FT.aCt)BeyOnd
Profile Joined April 2006
United States33 Posts
April 28 2006 05:24 GMT
#468
I am not bad mannering in anyway, I am merely making a single** suggestion about the lack of manner I have seen. Do I think this is a great site? Yes. Do I have respect for it? Yes. I would just like to see this site weed out the posts of the select few gamers who do not keep a decent manner level. A simple request of one TL.net member.

Oversensitive? I just want information to be correct so that the members of TL.net are not confused between contradictory statements. I am a bit edgy, however, because not only was his aka mentioned, but false information is being given out. If you do not understand where I am coming from, then I apologize, FrozenArbiter.

As for being arrogant.. thats the first time I've heard such a comment, I am only trying to clear up the details.

Also, I'm not out to get respect. Love didn't even want to be known, and I respected that and kept it within the team.. and since someone had to speak out of who he was on this site, I feel it is my responsibility to separate fact from fiction.

Yes, Love is learning english from some players in the team (ie myself).

Was that his original intention upon joining our team?

Love joined when we were a majority of korean and foreign gamers (non American).

He joined through a tryout game (ironic) AND THEN quickly befriended pHiLlY who proceeded to volunteer to assist him with learning english (philly is korean living in USA).

Maybe one of the reasons he stayed at the beginning (having not become familiar with the members) was because of his learning english, but it was not stated that he would join the team on the condition to learn english. How do I know this? I was right there from the time he joined the tryout game, to the time he joined the team.

Once again, I would greatly appreciate it if players would know the straight facts and not from "Love himself told someone he joined to learn english". Love "himself" is my friend, and I have been in contact with him since day 1, and I already know the truth of the situation. So far, mostly all of the information I have seen posted on this forum regarding Love (not Love himself) has been false.

If you do have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I am greatful that TL.net members are putting what they think or what they know out there, I would just like it to be verified first.

Gl-_-Hf('-'Gg^-^yO
Final Training - art Control Team Master
Mr.Testie
Profile Joined February 2006
973 Posts
April 28 2006 05:26 GMT
#469
God, is that what I sound like when I defend myself?
God... really.. wow.. i'm sorry everyone.
lol
Footloose
Profile Joined April 2006
Finland149 Posts
April 28 2006 05:39 GMT
#470
haha testie
maybe let it go bout yeon and ft.act) ?
one last thing,maybe u shud ask him to make a pgt rep pack?sure a lot of ppl wud love to see that
FT.aCt)BeyOnd
Profile Joined April 2006
United States33 Posts
April 28 2006 06:02 GMT
#471
Well, I've already posted that I will give replays if anyone would like them, as for a replay pack, if he doesnt put one together, I could ;p

Once I gather some more replays, I can create one.
Final Training - art Control Team Master
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 28 2006 06:20 GMT
#472
On April 28 2006 14:24 FT.aCt)BeyOnd wrote:
I am not bad mannering in anyway, I am merely making a single** suggestion about the lack of manner I have seen. Do I think this is a great site? Yes. Do I have respect for it? Yes. I would just like to see this site weed out the posts of the select few gamers who do not keep a decent manner level. A simple request of one TL.net member.

Oversensitive? I just want information to be correct so that the members of TL.net are not confused between contradictory statements. I am a bit edgy, however, because not only was his aka mentioned, but false information is being given out. If you do not understand where I am coming from, then I apologize, FrozenArbiter.

As for being arrogant.. thats the first time I've heard such a comment, I am only trying to clear up the details.

Also, I'm not out to get respect. Love didn't even want to be known, and I respected that and kept it within the team.. and since someone had to speak out of who he was on this site, I feel it is my responsibility to separate fact from fiction.

Yes, Love is learning english from some players in the team (ie myself).

Was that his original intention upon joining our team?

Love joined when we were a majority of korean and foreign gamers (non American).

He joined through a tryout game (ironic) AND THEN quickly befriended pHiLlY who proceeded to volunteer to assist him with learning english (philly is korean living in USA).

Maybe one of the reasons he stayed at the beginning (having not become familiar with the members) was because of his learning english, but it was not stated that he would join the team on the condition to learn english. How do I know this? I was right there from the time he joined the tryout game, to the time he joined the team.

Once again, I would greatly appreciate it if players would know the straight facts and not from "Love himself told someone he joined to learn english". Love "himself" is my friend, and I have been in contact with him since day 1, and I already know the truth of the situation. So far, mostly all of the information I have seen posted on this forum regarding Love (not Love himself) has been false.

If you do have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I am greatful that TL.net members are putting what they think or what they know out there, I would just like it to be verified first.

Gl-_-Hf('-'Gg^-^yO

Fair enough, I just feel it's unjustified to complain about the way this site is run, people who act out of line are dealt with.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
FT.aCt)BeyOnd
Profile Joined April 2006
United States33 Posts
April 28 2006 06:37 GMT
#473
Not complain, suggestion ^^, I think site is run great. As long as they are dealt with I'm fine with it ^^
Final Training - art Control Team Master
Footloose
Profile Joined April 2006
Finland149 Posts
April 28 2006 06:43 GMT
#474
yes id love to see a rep pack thx
Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
April 28 2006 06:52 GMT
#475
JianG
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada48 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-28 07:02:38
April 28 2006 06:57 GMT
#476
Hmmmmm I have to disagree with almost everything Testie said and I have to say it is rather bad manner.

I've seen Oldy do very well in every tournament he has entered since he has gotten A+ and well i don't know if he has played any pro's or semi pros but I have and i admit I'm not at a pro level but my friend WooJi is progamer in Curritel Pantech Curriors Team and he has never gotten A+ altho he prolly could if he tried lil harder and I've also practiced with TheManiaMST 1 of the newest and most famous terran progamers to hit the scene recently and i do have a winning rec vs him so there goes the "5-0 or 4-1" theory out the window

lets also point out the fact I reiched A+ with 70% win ratio and Reason(foriegner) got it with over 80% win ratio.

I refused Testie's games cuz it was during the week mon~fri in wich i don't play any games at all. To Prove this i played sen & atleast 1 other person who was using ToT)Sen( account on PGT so i don't dodge.

I think trashing draco is bullshit the guy is really really good and he should know who he's playing, especially when it's people he knows from europe server. because u just pointed out "Dissy 2-0'ed Draco" thats bm cuz who knows who he won vs.... he should know who he's playing.. when u guys smurf vs him then lose he doesnt know but when you win it becomes public.

I am not at progamer level but i don't think I should be pointed out like this just because i didn't play nick a game after a long day just getting home from work. Actually i shouldn't even have to explain myself to why i didn't play him.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 28 2006 07:13 GMT
#477
uh implying that any progamer would struggle at all to get A+ is kinda clueless...
and mentioning reason getting A+ with like 80% win just backs up testies case even more.
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SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
April 28 2006 07:23 GMT
#478
On April 28 2006 15:57 JianG wrote:
I think trashing draco is bullshit the guy is really really good and he should know who he's playing, especially when it's people he knows from europe server. because u just pointed out "Dissy 2-0'ed Draco" thats bm cuz who knows who he won vs.... he should know who he's playing.. when u guys smurf vs him then lose he doesnt know but when you win it becomes public.


Rest was bullshit.
-,-
Tarmak_mk
Profile Joined May 2004
Macedonia410 Posts
April 28 2006 07:33 GMT
#479
OO testie maybe u right but when u get A/A+ lot players msg u for game and dont know why u mean that i not play all i played all who msg me but with some i played after 1 day or something
well i just know that even semi-pro/pro players not get A+ so easy....
because thay not play lot games for getting better like some non koreans + we are not same time with koreans so u cant say that we dodge koreans i always want to play koreans because i not lose anything i just can get better and better.....
but most of games are for fun ^.^ <3 Testie <3 Janice <3 Sata <3 Oldy <3 ALL;;;;
OctoberZerg
Tarmak_mk
Profile Joined May 2004
Macedonia410 Posts
April 28 2006 07:37 GMT
#480
i can bet that no1 non korean cant get A+ playing only vs koreans with 80%ratio
OctoberZerg
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