EPTedit: I would also personally go onto the server to get selected races fom the players in these instances
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
edit: I would also personally go onto the server to get selected races fom the players in these instances | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:54 dRaW wrote: Actually I agree with the chinaman, racepickers should have a race to pick pre-game whispered to a ref vs a randomed or race-picked race. What if specter played against a random player, does he go random? Similarly any race picker should have 1 race picked vs an unknown opponent race. The last second switching in the countdown is also useless if they have to declare race during the opening seconds of the game, so I don't quite understand the logic in allowing them to do it. edit: I would also personally go onto the server to get selected races fom the players in these instances I don't think you understood that there was no match up that these two players would agree on. There's no point in wasting the referee's time and attention on a problem which is going to leave one player getting terribly destroyed anyway. One of the disadvantages of being a race picker is that sometimes you'll end up against another race picker who doesn't pick the same way you do. I don't see any reason to encourage race picking by creating rules that waste everyone's time for the sake of a problem which can't be fixed barring the banning of race picking. Furthermore, your inquiry doesn't follow any of the standards set in the thread, nor are you a team leader. This discussion is closed, the ruling will not change, given that there is no point in cluttering the thread with it more. Leaders may still send me PMs with their concerns. | ||
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
ps- who the hell pvps and zvzs specifically? lol | ||
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reps)Plumbum
Russian Federation484 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On August 21 2012 06:59 reps)Plumbum wrote: Switching races during countdown is obv AWESOME, cause its a miiiiiiindgames ! The mind games are great, we just need a way to let the caster know so that he can inform everyone about what is going on. | ||
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LML
Germany1794 Posts
On August 21 2012 07:51 hacklebeast wrote: The mind games are great, we just need a way to let the caster know so that he can inform everyone about what is going on. That's why you have to tell your race ingame if you switch it after the countdown is started. | ||
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yellowsmile
United States293 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On August 21 2012 09:03 yellowsmile wrote: why not just set a rule that all players HAVE TO select ONE RACE before any games? In another words, ban race pickers. for those who dodge zvz tvt and play pvz tvz instead, go back to practice zvz. Because I don't have to, there won't be many games which this rule affects, so to ban all race pickers because of 1 or 2 games they might run into... not worth it. | ||
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
On August 21 2012 09:03 yellowsmile wrote: why not just set a rule that all players HAVE TO select ONE RACE before any games? In another words, ban race pickers. for those who dodge zvz tvt and play pvz tvz instead, go back to practice zvz. Or let them dodge zvz but force them to announce all their matchups before the tourney? Like ZvP, ZvT, TvZ. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On August 21 2012 09:27 L3gendary wrote: Or let them dodge zvz but force them to announce all their matchups before the tourney? Like ZvP, ZvT, TvZ. It was a situation where one played PvZ PvT ZvP and the other PvP, ZvZ, PvT... There's no solution that leaves both players happy with the game. | ||
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yellowsmile
United States293 Posts
On August 21 2012 09:29 Eywa- wrote: It was a situation where one played PvZ PvT ZvP and the other PvP, ZvZ, PvT... There's no solution that leaves both players happy with the game. this is the issue. if no race pickers, everything is fine. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
On August 21 2012 09:29 Eywa- wrote: It was a situation where one played PvZ PvT ZvP and the other PvP, ZvZ, PvT... There's no solution that leaves both players happy with the game. haha wtf. That looks like specter just doesn't wanna play any macro games or something. Solution is pretty simple imo u dont allow people to race pick more than 1 mirror. Mirrors are lame anyway. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On August 21 2012 11:20 L3gendary wrote: haha wtf. That looks like specter just doesn't wanna play any macro games or something. Solution is pretty simple imo u dont allow people to race pick more than 1 mirror. Mirrors are lame anyway. ... I disagree, have you seen Karate vs TerrOr? | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1078 Posts
On August 21 2012 11:20 L3gendary wrote: haha wtf. That looks like specter just doesn't wanna play any macro games or something. Solution is pretty simple imo u dont allow people to race pick more than 1 mirror. Mirrors are lame anyway. Beware of him though... he just...+ Show Spoiler + all killed us TT | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On August 21 2012 22:14 HaFnium wrote: Beware of him though... he just...+ Show Spoiler + all killed us TT That's because Chinese players + Show Spoiler + absolutely can't stop cheese 2v2 Brutal at 2v2 micro war with 1v1 cheese builds Michael plays 2v2 | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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LML
Germany1794 Posts
On August 21 2012 11:20 L3gendary wrote: haha wtf. That looks like specter just doesn't wanna play any macro games or something. Solution is pretty simple imo u dont allow people to race pick more than 1 mirror. Mirrors are lame anyway. mirror match ups aren't lame at all. And since when are mirror match ups no macro games? especially TvT and PvP oftenly come into longer games which are macro games. ZvZ is alot more about micro than macro, true, but besides that, you're talking quite alot of nonsense. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On August 21 2012 22:27 Eywa- wrote: That's because Chinese players + Show Spoiler + absolutely can't stop cheese 2v2 Brutal at 2v2 micro war with 1v1 cheese builds Michael plays 2v2 actually chinese style is very micro oriented for the most part, they will do lots of probe cuts and timing attacks as you see in most of their games so far. The fact that none of the losing players gave the following players a heads up on the opening specter was using confuses me because he didn't deviate anything. edit: where can I find the map line up for the week? | ||
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