I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it.
They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life.
Sorry

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Pat
Canada721 Posts
I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it. They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life. Sorry ![]() | ||
SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Just know we will appreciate your efforts a lot when you fix it. That way... you should fix faster..... drink some coffee to uplift your mood and all is good... right? That's life. | ||
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Canada31 Posts
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
Sorry Pat <3 | ||
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Canada811 Posts
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Xeroth
United States432 Posts
On December 29 2005 14:17 Chr1s wrote: Yup anyone who wants to head down to the ISP and teach them a lesson let us know... >: ( Address? | ||
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United States7219 Posts
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Pat
Canada721 Posts
On December 29 2005 14:37 iNsaNe- wrote: What kind of data, do you need to relaunch the season? Accounts and ladder stats seems to be fine but polls, game logs, stats, etc... ouch >_< | ||
LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
On December 29 2005 14:55 Pat wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 14:37 iNsaNe- wrote: What kind of data, do you need to relaunch the season? Accounts and ladder stats seems to be fine but polls, game logs, stats, etc... ouch >_< damn i wanted to register "iloveoov" ![]() gl pgt! | ||
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Sweden1963 Posts
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Canada2069 Posts
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<3 pat | ||
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MURICA15980 Posts
But that really sucks Pat... especially 'cause you have no control over the stupid HD. Hmmm -_- | ||
Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
i will no install starcraft for more 1 month =/ or =) | ||
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Canada2470 Posts
On December 29 2005 14:15 Pat wrote: Ok well, our current HD kinda died in our hands... It's still there but in bad shape. MySQL database got hardly damaged and a lot of data were lost. I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it. They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life. Sorry ![]() whats HD ? hardrive ? | ||
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On December 29 2005 17:19 YunhOLee wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 14:15 Pat wrote: Ok well, our current HD kinda died in our hands... It's still there but in bad shape. MySQL database got hardly damaged and a lot of data were lost. I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it. They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life. Sorry ![]() whats HD ? hardrive ? HD = Hydro Dextronics | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
Some Tape Back Up, some Rev IOMEGA drive, some... DVD ... something... Tell me that you only lost 1 day of bbdd please :S | ||
Pat
Canada721 Posts
We can't have BNet-X to freeze 10-15 mins/day =/ | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
We do have backups (somewhat), but they aren't quite recent. On the bright side, we did not lose any accounts, which would have really been bad. | ||
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United States2587 Posts
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
On December 29 2005 18:27 StarN wrote: pwew my 14 accounts are safe ![]() I was getting worried, then I couldn't abuse with the 10 D- accounts :O. <3 | ||
greatmeh
Canada1964 Posts
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Canada1225 Posts
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ubergamer15
United States645 Posts
On December 29 2005 17:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 17:19 YunhOLee wrote: On December 29 2005 14:15 Pat wrote: Ok well, our current HD kinda died in our hands... It's still there but in bad shape. MySQL database got hardly damaged and a lot of data were lost. I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it. They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life. Sorry ![]() whats HD ? hardrive ? HD = Hydro Dextronics 0 hits on Wikipedia. ![]() | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
ill do whatever i can to help | ||
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Jamaica11586 Posts
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Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
On December 29 2005 17:53 Pat wrote: We can't make database backups because it takes more than few minutes to do and when we do it. BNet-X freeze. We can't have BNet-X to freeze 10-15 mins/day =/ Do a direct copy of the database folder. That way, you won't get lockups, some files will probably get copied corrupted but it's easier to make myisamchk and truncate the 2 or 3 new records than to lose an entire database like that. | ||
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Greece277 Posts
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United States266 Posts
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Sweden2111 Posts
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Venezuela9376 Posts
On December 29 2005 20:45 DaZe wrote: Ilintar is the fucking master of computers, he should leave wgt (even though he is the one who makes everything work) and join up with PGT coz they could use a genius like him ;D Fuck yeah! | ||
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Canada191 Posts
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United States71 Posts
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Canada2127 Posts
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On December 29 2005 19:03 ubergamer15 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 17:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote: On December 29 2005 17:19 YunhOLee wrote: On December 29 2005 14:15 Pat wrote: Ok well, our current HD kinda died in our hands... It's still there but in bad shape. MySQL database got hardly damaged and a lot of data were lost. I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it. They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life. Sorry ![]() whats HD ? hardrive ? HD = Hydro Dextronics 0 hits on Wikipedia. ![]() hmm thought Hydro Dextronics was its scientific name, try the slang term "hydextonicanical" | ||
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USA29055 Posts
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United States4991 Posts
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
This is micro FFS - - | ||
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Sweden163 Posts
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USA29055 Posts
On December 30 2005 01:00 DreamScaR wrote: b.net stands for Battle net shakti. This is micro FFS - - SHIT sorry >_< | ||
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United States7081 Posts
On December 29 2005 21:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 19:03 ubergamer15 wrote: On December 29 2005 17:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote: On December 29 2005 17:19 YunhOLee wrote: On December 29 2005 14:15 Pat wrote: Ok well, our current HD kinda died in our hands... It's still there but in bad shape. MySQL database got hardly damaged and a lot of data were lost. I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it. They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life. Sorry ![]() whats HD ? hardrive ? HD = Hydro Dextronics 0 hits on Wikipedia. ![]() hmm thought Hydro Dextronics was its scientific name, try the slang term "hydextonicanical" It's Hydro Dextrinics | ||
Sha-Mat
Greece277 Posts
On December 30 2005 05:11 -_- wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 21:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote: On December 29 2005 19:03 ubergamer15 wrote: On December 29 2005 17:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote: On December 29 2005 17:19 YunhOLee wrote: On December 29 2005 14:15 Pat wrote: Ok well, our current HD kinda died in our hands... It's still there but in bad shape. MySQL database got hardly damaged and a lot of data were lost. I am too much in a bad mood to explain more than that but you got a good picture of it. They will get us a new server and save our files/data. This will be a LOOOOT of work for us but heh, that's life. Sorry ![]() whats HD ? hardrive ? HD = Hydro Dextronics 0 hits on Wikipedia. ![]() hmm thought Hydro Dextronics was its scientific name, try the slang term "hydextonicanical" It's Hydro Dextrinics I thought it as Hudro Doxtrinics wrong? | ||
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United States6657 Posts
Buahahah k on a more serious note, gl 2 PGT! | ||
Babibo
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DaZe
Sweden2111 Posts
On December 30 2005 01:10 StarOfDust wrote: gl hf and love to pgt, I'm sure you'll be back soon ![]() haha noob ![]() ![]() | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
On December 29 2005 19:16 Ilintar wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 17:53 Pat wrote: We can't make database backups because it takes more than few minutes to do and when we do it. BNet-X freeze. We can't have BNet-X to freeze 10-15 mins/day =/ Do a direct copy of the database folder. That way, you won't get lockups, some files will probably get copied corrupted but it's easier to make myisamchk and truncate the 2 or 3 new records than to lose an entire database like that. Sounds like a good idea :p. It's kinda funny that you mention this, because that's what got corrupted. The server froze out of no where and the next reboot half of our /var filesystem was corrupted. | ||
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United States6657 Posts
On December 30 2005 07:36 DaZe wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2005 01:10 StarOfDust wrote: gl hf and love to pgt, I'm sure you'll be back soon ![]() haha noob ![]() ![]() I failed my first test. Passed my second. WTF HOW DID I FORGET TO DO A 3 POINT TURN?!?! My brain just froze when he said it and I was like "wtf was that again" and then as soon as we get back in I remembered what it was. | ||
StarOfDust
Sweden163 Posts
On December 30 2005 07:36 DaZe wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2005 01:10 StarOfDust wrote: gl hf and love to pgt, I'm sure you'll be back soon ![]() haha noob ![]() ![]() Did I mntion htat I've missed it twice? :O Like, seriolsly, it's like bad and stuff. I hate it, stupid 1 little mistake adn then fucked all like thing. 1 more try ion a week! btw, thanks for noticing me, ur like famouns and stuff right+? | ||
Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
The database is actually just the files in /var/lib/mysql (or wherever they're stored). If the filesystem gets corrupted, so do the files. Buggy HDD? | ||
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United States7081 Posts
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T_T
Vatican City State593 Posts
On December 29 2005 17:53 Pat wrote: We can't make database backups because it takes more than few minutes to do and when we do it. BNet-X freeze. We can't have BNet-X to freeze 10-15 mins/day =/ announce a fixed downtime everyday for 30 minutes for backups, server maintenance and stuff. a lot of sites do this. everyone with half a brain should understand. | ||
Last.RavaGe
United States114 Posts
On December 30 2005 09:10 T_T wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 17:53 Pat wrote: We can't make database backups because it takes more than few minutes to do and when we do it. BNet-X freeze. We can't have BNet-X to freeze 10-15 mins/day =/ announce a fixed downtime everyday for 30 minutes for backups, server maintenance and stuff. a lot of sites do this. everyone with half a brain should understand. but they have to always keep in mind those without that precious half a brain =[ | ||
Pat
Canada721 Posts
On December 30 2005 09:00 -_- wrote: When is PGT expected to come up? If you cannot tell me because you don't know then tell me that. If you can't tell me because it's your policy not to tell even if you do know, or have a strong idea, then tell me that. If you can't respond to these kinds of posts... then don't respond and make me cry. All I can say is that they are currently building us a new machine and installing appropriate OS/software and then they will put our current HD as slave so we can put everything back (that was not damaged). Then our Server Admin will set our server for maximum efficiency (install linux threads for MySQL, SMP support, etc...) Then we will have to reinstall everything back (BNet-X, website and database). | ||
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United States114 Posts
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Pat
Canada721 Posts
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
:D Geoff... And such webmasterly love going on here. | ||
Mortality
United States4790 Posts
T_T, it was my luck that jinxed PGT. Had I played all the games up front, this problem would not be happening. Pat, you should tell the boys at FighterForum what's going on and how quickly you think it can be back up so that they don't revoke your sponsorship. :o | ||
TserHossHiBreed
Algeria87 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 30 2005 13:21 TserHossHiBreed wrote: guess it's WGT time for now.... no pgtour.. no bw and 1v1's at all D= D; | ||
greatmeh
Canada1964 Posts
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ilovego
United States15 Posts
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Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
On December 30 2005 10:00 Carnac wrote: alright, i'm no tech expert, so don't beat me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't you be able to have a backup without going offline using a raid system or whatever? You should. Once you pay an extra $1000 a month for it ;D | ||
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Austria66 Posts
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Slovakia865 Posts
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tAi.BcHyDrO
Canada7 Posts
On December 30 2005 14:55 greatmeh wrote: Traitor! WGTour is just as good, gogo WGT :p poor PAT >< PGT just won't stay fixed ![]() | ||
Last.tRipPy
United States22 Posts
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Last.RavaGe
United States114 Posts
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iG....CoolT
Canada193 Posts
What caused the server to reboot...? Is it just a bad hardware crash? | ||
Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On December 30 2005 21:37 iG....CoolT wrote: As a professional server admin myslef, I want to understand that too... and what just happened seems to be really strange. What caused the server to reboot...? Is it just a bad hardware crash? On December 30 2005 07:38 Chr1s wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2005 19:16 Ilintar wrote: On December 29 2005 17:53 Pat wrote: We can't make database backups because it takes more than few minutes to do and when we do it. BNet-X freeze. We can't have BNet-X to freeze 10-15 mins/day =/ Do a direct copy of the database folder. That way, you won't get lockups, some files will probably get copied corrupted but it's easier to make myisamchk and truncate the 2 or 3 new records than to lose an entire database like that. Sounds like a good idea :p. It's kinda funny that you mention this, because that's what got corrupted. The server froze out of no where and the next reboot half of our /var filesystem was corrupted. "....out of no where" But I think it's because their ISP is hosting their server on a Dell™. | ||
Pat
Canada721 Posts
On December 30 2005 21:37 iG....CoolT wrote: As a professional server admin myslef, I want to understand that too... and what just happened seems to be really strange. What caused the server to reboot...? Is it just a bad hardware crash? 2 possibilities left: 1) HD fault (we did a full system swap, except for HD, few months ago hoping it would stop but it didn't) 2) Power supply not powerful enough when system load is high (but unlikely) It reboots randomly like this for awhile but on the last reboot, all files that were in use got deleted (many files in /var, a lot of tables got emptied in iour database, etc...) | ||
LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
I know what kind of machine is running the server, and Its possible that for a back up task the time needed is under 15 seconds. (doing right of course). 2 years ago, 1 of our HD where BBDD were running (MS SQL 2000) simply crash and our server admins didn´t got any kind of procedure to avoid the data lost. After this, and with a huge trouble to deal, we just demand to our servers providers the RIGHT of to get our datas totally protected against hardware failures. Maybe is time to change your server provider Pat | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
On December 31 2005 06:54 LG)cheloman wrote: Sorry, but I still don´t know how its possible that your server admins dont have the Databases in a mirror HD or in a very simple procedure for make back ups in real time without detach the BBDD or a simple back up task. I know what kind of machine is running the server, and Its possible that for a back up task the time needed is under 15 seconds. (doing right of course). 2 years ago, 1 of our HD where BBDD were running (MS SQL 2000) simply crash and our server admins didn´t got any kind of procedure to avoid the data lost. After this, and with a huge trouble to deal, we just demand to our servers providers the RIGHT of to get our datas totally protected against hardware failures. Maybe is time to change your server provider Pat Most hosting providers charge extra to perform backups, we decided not to pay that extra cost, which means we are responsible for taking backups. Backing up the database took about 10 minutes, and would cause the server load to go very high thus lagging up the whole server including BNet-X, which is why we decided not to perform database backups. Once we get everything back up, we certainly learned from this bad experience and will take backups by tar'ing the appropriate folders found in /var, which will be much faster than using mysqldump. | ||
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Canada10458 Posts
On December 31 2005 11:48 Mickey[aCt] wrote: Pat your gonna be remembered as a great man for BW. I salute you. Haha, what an understatement. But well said. ![]() | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
My body's alread shaking.. the addiction's soo big 8[ HEEEEEEELP ME D; | ||
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Canada580 Posts
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Bulgaria492 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
just an idea for the future | ||
Contagious
United States1319 Posts
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Leejungterran
Korea (South)572 Posts
thx for info and thx again for pgtour | ||
PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 31 2005 14:29 RiSE wrote: Just get fisheye's penis to soothe you. congrats for one more post about fisheye penetrating me with his penis. Great work. You are the man. Fucking idiot T_T I didnt even put the word ''FiSheYe'' in my mouth in this thread and you have no better idea.. then.. omg you are so stupid. | ||
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France1070 Posts
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United States678 Posts
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United States7081 Posts
On December 31 2005 15:57 MaGic~PhiL wrote: congrats for one more post about fisheye penetrating me with his penis. Great work. You are the man. Fucking idiot T_T I didnt even put the word ''FiSheYe'' in my mouth in this thread and you have no better idea.. then.. omg you are so stupid. Sure you didn't put the word fisheye in your mouth, but that didn't stop him from putting his penis there. | ||
7x)Rus_Brain
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happy new year ^^;; | ||
funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
Then a link to this thread, at least they got what they need to get the job done and open the ladder again =P | ||
decafchicken
United States20041 Posts
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qG.OptiX
Russian Federation14 Posts
Happy New Year guys!!! | ||
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
I think it's about time someone showed Pat how its done. All these server crashes and bullshit. What a fucking slacker, if you're not going to do the job right, don't do it at all.</end sarcasm> thats more of an insult than a joke adding sarcasm at the back of it still doesnt tone it down a lot . . . | ||
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United States317 Posts
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Jamaica246 Posts
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Walkman_
Hungary2 Posts
On December 31 2005 08:15 Chr1s wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2005 06:54 LG)cheloman wrote: Sorry, but I still don´t know how its possible that your server admins dont have the Databases in a mirror HD or in a very simple procedure for make back ups in real time without detach the BBDD or a simple back up task. I know what kind of machine is running the server, and Its possible that for a back up task the time needed is under 15 seconds. (doing right of course). 2 years ago, 1 of our HD where BBDD were running (MS SQL 2000) simply crash and our server admins didn´t got any kind of procedure to avoid the data lost. After this, and with a huge trouble to deal, we just demand to our servers providers the RIGHT of to get our datas totally protected against hardware failures. Maybe is time to change your server provider Pat Most hosting providers charge extra to perform backups, we decided not to pay that extra cost, which means we are responsible for taking backups. Backing up the database took about 10 minutes, and would cause the server load to go very high thus lagging up the whole server including BNet-X, which is why we decided not to perform database backups. Once we get everything back up, we certainly learned from this bad experience and will take backups by tar'ing the appropriate folders found in /var, which will be much faster than using mysqldump. I didn't try it, but what could happen if you change the mysqldump's priority/nice to a lower level (where Bnet-X could run without lagging) and that required more time to backup the data (more than 10 minutes, it's sure...) but, you have a backup. It could be enough once a day, I think. What you mean ? | ||
Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
What you mean ?" Doesn't work that way. When mysqldump backups a table, it does "lock table <table>" first. Because of this, all the processes/threads using that table (mainly the Bnet-x server if it's a table the server uses) suddenly deadlock since they need the table lock to get cleared. I don't know if a binlog isn't enough to backup a database, I know that you can backup it by copying the files but you might lose some table integrity if the table is modified in the meanwhile (still, I think that's better - you lose only a little portion of data instead of everything). | ||
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hiscv
Poland35 Posts
On January 01 2006 09:43 MhX wrote: Is there any ETA for when it might be back up ? | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Korea (South)1 Post
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TserHossHiBreed
Algeria87 Posts
guess you can still read through the 4-5 quotes though --; | ||
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Chile5114 Posts
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ChoboCop
United States954 Posts
[QUOTE]On January 01 2006 06:50 MyTHicaL wrote: [quote]I think it's about time someone showed Pat how its done. All these server crashes and bullshit. What a fucking slacker, if you're not going to do the job right, don't do it at all.</end sarcasm>[/quote] Keep it up ludwig and I'm writing a recommendation letter to assamite about not promoting you. Please learn how to do kind sarcasms. Considering the news he made about him being royally pissed a few months ago on PGT I would not have done that at all, but at best it could've been : [quote]careful Pat, if you keep the crashes up we'll all ditch you for WGT ![]() but that's really the limit. Try to respect him a bit more, this is weighting heavily on him, w/o saying more details.[/QUOTE] Don't punk out your boy on the public forum. Not cool, you look like a nerd. | ||
tAi.BcHyDrO
Canada7 Posts
[QUOTE]On January 01 2006 18:46 TserHossHiBreed wrote: [QUOTE]On January 01 2006 06:50 MyTHicaL wrote: [quote]I think it's about time someone showed Pat how its done. All these server crashes and bullshit. What a fucking slacker, if you're not going to do the job right, don't do it at all.</end>[/quote] Keep it up ludwig and I'm writing a recommendation letter to assamite about not promoting you. Please learn how to do kind sarcasms. Considering the news he made about him being royally pissed a few months ago on PGT I would not have done that at all, but at best it could've been : [quote]careful Pat, if you keep the crashes up we'll all ditch you for WGT ![]() but that's really the limit. Try to respect him a bit more, this is weighting heavily on him, w/o saying more details.[/QUOTE] Don't punk out your boy on the public forum. Not cool, you look like a nerd.[/QUOTE] and talking gangsta on the internet.... make you cool? | ||
TserHossHiBreed
Algeria87 Posts
You guys have no clue whatsoever. | ||
Orgasm
Korea (South)1 Post
Too many guys waiting for pgtour.net~ I hope i see soon it : ) I really wanna play pgtour~ T_T | ||
-_-
United States7081 Posts
[QUOTE]On January 01 2006 06:50 MyTHicaL wrote: [quote]I think it's about time someone showed Pat how its done. All these server crashes and bullshit. What a fucking slacker, if you're not going to do the job right, don't do it at all.</end sarcasm>[/quote] Keep it up ludwig and I'm writing a recommendation letter to assamite about not promoting you. Please learn how to do kind sarcasms. Considering the news he made about him being royally pissed a few months ago on PGT I would not have done that at all, but at best it could've been : [quote]careful Pat, if you keep the crashes up we'll all ditch you for WGT ![]() but that's really the limit. Try to respect him a bit more, this is weighting heavily on him, w/o saying more details.[/QUOTE] If you know this guy, and simply want to tell him to be more tactful in using sarcasm, then just use the post message system. Do not chew him out on the forum, and say you are going to write a letter to his superiors; it makes it seem like you are trying to act like a big-time boss, which just seems stupid when it is about starcraft. Hope that's not too gansta 4 u, son. | ||
TserHossHiBreed
Algeria87 Posts
You're right though, private mail would've been better. I deleted my post, probably won't make much of a diff though. I've just got this tendency of settling user-to-user matters on the forum, it often looks like I'm trying to get the attention but that's really not the case, sorry for that. | ||
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Canada2170 Posts
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France1070 Posts
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Canada2170 Posts
On January 02 2006 07:24 MyTHicaL wrote: ![]() As others have stated, backing up a database so large so often would lag the server incredibly. I mean, would you like to server to go down at least once a day for back-ups? I wouldn't. | ||
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hiscv
Poland35 Posts
Anyway, nobody tried to answer question repeated few times already: whats ETA to see PGTour working once again? Whats main problem to relaunch at least bnet-x server? If you cant revive part of database including stats, would be problem to use just previous points/rank with no stats at all? And no, I'm not whining, I enjoy PGTour and I'd love to see it back asap, just give us some ETA so we can wait patiently ![]() Best regards~ _ R | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
On January 02 2006 09:46 hiscv wrote: Same here. And no backup at least once weekly is kinda rudiculous I think, but please try to make a good lesson now and never make same mistake, then nobody would complain again, for sure. Anyway, nobody tried to answer question repeated few times already: whats ETA to see PGTour working once again? Whats main problem to relaunch at least bnet-x server? If you cant revive part of database including stats, would be problem to use just previous points/rank with no stats at all? And no, I'm not whining, I enjoy PGTour and I'd love to see it back asap, just give us some ETA so we can wait patiently ![]() Best regards~ _ R The reason why we aren't giving an ETA is because we don't have one. We have just finished tweaking our server, now we are focusing on recovering the most we can from our old database backups. We have not lost any of the stats or ratings. We've lost a lot of the match reports, all the teams, and all the polls. We were able to recover some of the teams using our previous backup and same for the polls. We are working as hard as we can to get PGTour back up. | ||
KoBe-Vi
United States1 Post
give me a holla | ||
Polygon
United States105 Posts
~Polygon | ||
Last.tRipPy
United States22 Posts
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BloodOfAChamp
United States266 Posts
On January 02 2006 11:56 Polygon wrote: Yeah we have well gl guys see you back when the site gets up.well chris, pat, rest of the admin team, you have been through shit before, and im confident that you guys will pull through yet again, best of luck! ~Polygon | ||
Crimson..
Canada54 Posts
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Sha-Mat
Greece277 Posts
are u close now? anu news? | ||
Pat
Canada721 Posts
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whatever
Mexico693 Posts
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Last.RavaGe
United States114 Posts
On January 02 2006 23:04 ChOsU wrote: I love you, if u ever come to Mexico pmme so we can have tequila and do stuff that in your country are crime but over here no one cares ![]() that last part screams of i wanna rape you ![]() | ||
PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
you could get a good ammount of money if the koreans are able to read the post so they could donate. | ||
PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On January 02 2006 23:24 PuertoRican wrote: if yer havin money problems, you can always ask for donations. you could get a good ammount of money if the koreans are able to read the post so they could donate. Even not, there's plenty of people here who would cough up a few bucks to help out PGTour. | ||
Zeller
United States1109 Posts
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SMiLE[bwd]
United States233 Posts
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
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TreY
United States997 Posts
!!!! Almost done! | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
On January 03 2006 09:59 hasuprotoss wrote: The website was just up, and then it shut right back down. Our forums database magically emptied itself, so we're uploading a backup to restore them. Uploading a 400mb file takes a few hours, so we will be back up soon.. | ||
MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
On January 02 2006 23:24 PuertoRican wrote: if yer havin money problems, you can always ask for donations. you could get a good ammount of money if the koreans are able to read the post so they could donate. -_- no i doubt koreans would donate any faster than i would... which isnt very fast to say the least i think i might donate a euro if ur lucky ![]() | ||
~AreS]
Canada2170 Posts
On January 03 2006 10:48 Chr1s wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2006 09:59 hasuprotoss wrote: The website was just up, and then it shut right back down. Our forums database magically emptied itself, so we're uploading a backup to restore them. Uploading a 400mb file takes a few hours, so we will be back up soon.. Precious...precious forums. I account for about, 50MB of that. Haha. ![]() | ||
ReTr0[p.S]
Argentina1590 Posts
On January 03 2006 11:48 ~AreS] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2006 10:48 Chr1s wrote: On January 03 2006 09:59 hasuprotoss wrote: The website was just up, and then it shut right back down. Our forums database magically emptied itself, so we're uploading a backup to restore them. Uploading a 400mb file takes a few hours, so we will be back up soon.. Precious...precious forums. I account for about, 50MB of that. Haha. ![]() And hopefully that's the only dammaged part of the db. :D J_ghost351 | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
how much time u need now????... ![]() ![]() | ||
Leejungterran
Korea (South)572 Posts
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sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
Working working working.... For more information: Click here. We are slowly recovering from our losses.. Sorry for the downtime and happy new year! [Jan 3rd, 1:00PM Est] We just ran into some last minute problems.. We are currently uploading an old backup to fix this problem. PGTour should be back and running in a few hours. Thanks! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
pat----> ![]() ![]() ![]() lol ![]() i need pgt ...... | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() were are u all? ? ? | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
![]() pat ........................ | ||
funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
dead. | ||
MartianBlood
Spain21 Posts
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sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
u know how much time has left .... TT ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
plz say anything . , . hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | ||
~AreS]
Canada2170 Posts
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paaltje
Netherlands359 Posts
GOGOGO PGT !!! | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
can u say any reasons,any time.....etc when webmaster will lauanch it?_?_?_?_?_?..... -------??_ __---__-_----_-???-_-) | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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.taSteOfweSt.
Germany6 Posts
Pat you are my hero! take as much time as you need ![]() | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
[pat] plz look on time...u can undestand some numbers??? u say PGTour should be back and running in a few hours when u say it??and what time now???????????????? omg wtf TT [pat] this is my 3 words | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
On January 03 2006 16:57 sinsky wrote: .taSteOfweSt ignore [pat] plz look on time...u can undestand some numbers??? u say PGTour should be back and running in a few hours when u say it??and what time now???????????????? omg wtf TT [pat] this is my 3 words I'm the one who put that, we've run into problems since then. You should start appreciating the work we've done for you. You should realize that we worked on getting PGTour.net back up during new years holidays. While other people are partying, we are working to get this site back up for you guys. Show a bit more appreciation next time thanks. | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11583 Posts
On January 03 2006 17:06 Chr1s wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2006 16:57 sinsky wrote: .taSteOfweSt ignore [pat] plz look on time...u can undestand some numbers??? u say PGTour should be back and running in a few hours when u say it??and what time now???????????????? omg wtf TT [pat] this is my 3 words I'm the one who put that, we've run into problems since then. You should start appreciating the work we've done for you. You should realize that we worked on getting PGTour.net back up during new years holidays. While other people are partying, we are working to get this site back up for you guys. Show a bit more appreciation next time thanks. i agree with u chr1s, people. PGT is a privelidge to your gaming, NOT a right. | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
if u worked on getting PGTour.net back up during new years holidays......so we must playing pgt now but i think u dont know what to do u cant say what u done what udoing know u cant say anythink because u dont undestand anythink u made such stupid mistakes.......... u in big ass i think PGTour goes down very offen because of stupid admins i dont know any other server such as pgtour u have good idea with ladders and etc....pgtour i think best by it but u havent got good hands to do all work that u whant and i think u dont try to get back pgtour because(how i said)u dont know what to do and plz if u cant say some real instead of: m the one who put that, we've run into problems since then. You should start appreciating the work we've done for you. You should realize that we worked on getting PGTour.net back up during new years holidays. While other people are partying, we are working to get this site back up for you guys. Show a bit more appreciation next time thanks. Working working working.... For more information: Click here. We are slowly recovering from our losses.. Sorry for the downtime and happy new year! [Jan 3rd, 1:00PM Est] We just ran into some last minute problems.. We are currently uploading an old backup to fix this problem. PGTour should be back and running in a few hours. Thanks! and etc.. so plz shut up OMG yeeeh? | ||
Binky1842
United States2599 Posts
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sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
if u worked on getting PGTour.net back up during new years holidays......so we must playing pgt now but i think u dont know what to do u cant say what u done what udoing know u cant say anythink because u dont undestand anythink u made such stupid mistakes.......... u in big ass i think PGTour goes down very offen because of stupid admins i dont know any other server such as pgtour u have good idea with ladders and etc....pgtour i think best by it but u havent got good hands to do all work that u whant and i think u dont try to get back pgtour because(how i said)u dont know what to do and plz if u cant say some real instead of: m the one who put that, we've run into problems since then. You should start appreciating the work we've done for you. You should realize that we worked on getting PGTour.net back up during new years holidays. While other people are partying, we are working to get this site back up for you guys. Show a bit more appreciation next time thanks. Working working working.... For more information: Click here. We are slowly recovering from our losses.. Sorry for the downtime and happy new year! [Jan 3rd, 1:00PM Est] We just ran into some last minute problems.. We are currently uploading an old backup to fix this problem. PGTour should be back and running in a few hours. Thanks! and etc.. so plz shut up OMG yeeeh? | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
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bloodcanadiaN
Canada114 Posts
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sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
i see u from canada..... it is ur answer???or im wrong | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
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Moggle
Canada327 Posts
Someone ban him, jesus christ. So much disrespect and spamming. You think that helps anything? "OH PAT HURRY UP AND FIX IT! OMG CHRIS YOU'RE STUPID OMGZ SHUT UP!" Are you fucking retarded? I swear to god PGT should just shut down because theres so much disrespect flying around. I sure as hell wouldn't continue working for assholes who don't appreciate my work so I don't see why Pat and his admins should. | ||
.taSteOfweSt.
Germany6 Posts
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Moggle
Canada327 Posts
On January 03 2006 17:27 .taSteOfweSt. wrote: ![]() I think you misread my post. Sinsky is pissing me off with his bullshit. Pat and his team work so hard and they don't get paid for their work. It makes no sense trying to rush a free service because they could just drop the entire project at anytime. Rather than rushing them and spouting off crap, sinsky needs to learn how to sit down and shut the hell up. I seriously salute the Pgtour team for all of their hard work, its unbelieveable. | ||
UnS)GamBiT
Brazil1 Post
GO PGTOUR | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
disrespect flying around....i respect pgtour very much and people who made it but!!! i try to tell u only one thing.... u made a mistake,or u dont? u made a serious mistake,or not? u made a STUPID mistake!!!!! and after that u tell everybody that it is ok and pgt wiill bach after some hours!!!!!!! it nomanners!!!!u can say omg ./... big mistake ..... etc u sade that u are a god and everything will be ok im here for 4 hour.... i whant to ask u.. WHAT A FUCK? why i must spend my time by flooding in some chat?! why?because u say ........................... OMG | ||
.taSteOfweSt.
Germany6 Posts
I dont want anybody to ban you ![]() | ||
Chr1s
Canada31 Posts
Our hard drive died, so we lost a lot of the database. We've been busy recovering as much as possible from old backups. Just as we were getting ready to open the site back up, we noticed that all the forum posts were lost. So we quickly closed the site back, and we are attempting to recover as many forum topics as possible. We could just say "whatever.. these people don't deserve it" and just put empty forums, but we care about PGTour.net and our visitors. You may think we're just playing with you guys with these "be back in 2 hours", but we're not. sry but i think cr1s real stupid... TT HaHa.. Your a very funny guy... How 'bout you learn how to spell my name lol.. | ||
Noun
United States1026 Posts
On January 03 2006 17:33 sinsky wrote: sry but i think cr1s real stupid... TT disrespect flying around....i respect pgtour very much and people who made it but!!! i try to tell u only one thing.... u made a mistake,or u dont? u made a serious mistake,or not? u made a STUPID mistake!!!!! and after that u tell everybody that it is ok and pgt wiill bach after some hours!!!!!!! it nomanners!!!!u can say omg ./... big mistake ..... etc u sade that u are a god and everything will be ok im here for 4 hour.... i whant to ask u.. WHAT A FUCK? why i must spend my time by flooding in some chat?! why?because u say ........................... OMG Stop spamming and shut the fuck up if you don't know how to form a coherent sentence like normal human beings. | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
if my language not so good i must shut up?if i dont live in eng language country i must shut up? u fuck.... ?$?#$?#$#$?#$# #?$#?$#$ #?$#? $#$?#$?# $? !!!! ok? now for Chr1s: ok.....somethink u can say....im happy now...why u cant make new season? why u must repair forums?people will be much interested in pgt not in its forum,i think i think people may write again what they ....... in forum | ||
.taSteOfweSt.
Germany6 Posts
would be so great ![]() | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
i dont say anything nomanners i say as i think,as they show me it...... | ||
Noun
United States1026 Posts
If you can't even obey simple tl.net rules, or don't have anything positive to say (at least in this thread), then don't even bother to post. It's that simple. | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
it is ur opinion | ||
MartianBlood
Spain21 Posts
On January 03 2006 17:18 Binky1842 wrote: ![]() 100% agree with Binky | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
im clicked...then omg im hear and i try to find some information | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
binki wrote only one word can u explain why? | ||
~AreS]
Canada2170 Posts
Now Chr1s and Pat and god knows who else are staying up all night and working their asses off to fix this problem and restore as much information as they possibly can so that when we log in, we'll be able to go about our gaming and posting without any troubles. They're not spending all of this time because "they screwed up" but rather because they want us to enjoy PGTour. None of the Webmasters are payed to do this job, they do it because they want us to be happy. Chr1s gave an ETA because many of you were demanding it. Unfortunately, since then, the situation has changed and the ETA must be re-adjusted. Do you know what ETA stands for? Estimated time of arrival. Estimated. It's nothing set in stone; it's a guess. Please respect Chr1s because if anyone can get PGTour back up and running, it's Chr1s. I'm talking to him all the time and he's always busy trying to recover something. He's more than capable of doing the job and he's doing it well, he doesn't need someone criticizing and insulting him for doing what he needs to do. | ||
DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
There's my little bit on this, if you have a problem with what I've said. PM me @ WGTour. Micro-Lzuruha | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
im real happy real good post respect | ||
MartianBlood
Spain21 Posts
On January 03 2006 17:49 sinsky wrote: .taSteOfweSt. man i whant find a true(i dont know how it in eng) i dont say anything nomanners i say as i think,as they show me it...... On January 03 2006 17:15 sinsky wrote: PGTour goes down very offen because of stupid admins On January 03 2006 17:33 sinsky wrote: sry but i think cr1s real stupid... TT You are very very manner. GL pat Regards | ||
LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
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MartianBlood
Spain21 Posts
On January 03 2006 18:01 sinsky wrote: MartianBlood binki wrote only one word can u explain why? I can't explain you why binky have wrote only one word but I can explain you that if you spam being bad manner and disturbing people you must be banned. Have you understood now? | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
because im not as koreans and not as u.... i dont have good inet suck as adsl because in my country it is tooo hard adls unlim-400$ ok? and i play by modem by 8........... telephone is...intertown and im cry when people(koreans) say u are stupid try to ask any korean does he know sucj country as Belarus???? they know only chine,korea(south,noth)thats all omg TT ignore u i dont respect u | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
u only a human,u not a person TT for u | ||
Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism <= here, read it, might enlighten you a bit. And stop bitching people for working tons of hours to get you something for free. | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
Constructive criticism is more likely to be accepted if the criticism is focused on the recipient's work or behavior. That is, personality issues must be avoided as much as is possible. Critical thinking can help identify relevant issues to focus on. | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
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sCV
Jamaica246 Posts
gogogo pgt | ||
funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
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sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
respect | ||
MartianBlood
Spain21 Posts
On January 03 2006 18:33 sinsky wrote: im on pgt now.......good job respect You don't respect people or people work... When you write "respect", this word haven't value. | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
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GoGoGo[cF]
China545 Posts
Now I hope they can fix the teams right quick as well ![]() | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
stupid by what? Othewise hundreds of people banned by now.... | ||
Pat
Canada721 Posts
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sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
can u tell me ur opinion? | ||
Pat
Canada721 Posts
On January 03 2006 19:03 Pat wrote: It will be put down in a few so they remove our old HD (that was set as slave during recovery). Done ![]() | ||
mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
On January 03 2006 19:05 sinsky wrote: pat are u read my posts? can u tell me ur opinion? ok, now you have your beloved pgt back. get out tl.net plz. dumbass. | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
ok np if u whant so much | ||
sinsky
Zimbabwe36 Posts
thx fo all dint offend on me | ||
Leejungterran
Korea (South)572 Posts
![]() thx for be up fast like that ! | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
Okay, after going back a page or two, I decided going through the trouble of an IP ban is worth it for that sad nut-case. EDIT: Okay, there. I feel better now. | ||
YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
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~SaTaN~
United States71 Posts
But if you did that he might go kill his self ![]() So ban him plz lol Give PgTour his IP | ||
PlayJunior
Armenia833 Posts
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~SaTaN~
United States71 Posts
Hope he is not Modem like he said lol | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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~AreS]
Canada2170 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
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