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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10381 Posts
June 30 2012 08:06 GMT
#601
Zappa it was 3/2. Flash attacked right after getting +3 attack
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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
June 30 2012 08:07 GMT
#602
That timing attack with the air upgrade was nice by Flash
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
June 30 2012 08:07 GMT
#603
zappa: thanks ^^
sharkie: good for you

still, it`s weird that some people simply can not watch it via youtube. (and dont know why : / )
keep it deep! @zulison
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 08:09:13
June 30 2012 08:08 GMT
#604
On June 30 2012 17:04 zappa372 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 17:02 BgSBendeR wrote:
This is the reason why I kind of hate SC2.
Sit there, max( since it's so easy compare to BW and also the overall speed of the game) . 1 Attack to win the game.
So boring


I'm hoping it's because of the current skill level to read information, clearly Jaehoon wasn't expecting nor ready for that timing attack.


It was a timing attack because Jaehoon didn't have anything. He stopped making Colossus for a long time, and was behind in upgrades. Flash scanned right as the first Templar of the tech-switch warped in. The timing wasn't on Flash's end (though he was ahead in upgrades), Flash realized that Jaehoon was really weak at that exact moment and won the game. He had about 30 seconds before all the money Jaehoon put in to getting storm became usable (HTs had to build the energy), and that was the window he exploited

Edit: Apparently it was also right when +3 attack finished, which is probably what prompted the scan, but it was still Jaehoon being weak more than Flash being strong.
zappa372
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Chile365 Posts
June 30 2012 08:08 GMT
#605
Thanks flashftw,
Hokey guys, my work here is done, it's currently 4 am in here, I'm feeling sleppy.
Cya!

+ Show Spoiler +
Go T8!
EE HAN TIMING!
nweb
Profile Joined June 2011
198 Posts
June 30 2012 08:08 GMT
#606
On June 30 2012 17:02 BgSBendeR wrote:
This is the reason why I kind of hate SC2.
Sit there, max( since it's so easy compare to BW and also the overall speed of the game) . 1 Attack to win the game.
So boring


Now is it SC2 or KESPA players playing like it is 2010?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
June 30 2012 08:08 GMT
#607
On June 30 2012 17:07 zul wrote:
zappa: thanks ^^
sharkie: good for you

still, it`s weird that some people simply can not watch it via youtube. (and dont know why : / )


I think only Germans and Swedens? have this problem...
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
June 30 2012 08:09 GMT
#608
On June 30 2012 17:00 sharkeyanti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 16:58 Norada wrote:
that game was so boring. macro to 200 then push attack whoever wins the big ball fight wins the game. god that was so sad >:


so boring

well if u have 1 player that stays at his base to max out with colossi and dies to a straight up push with no colossi or stalker control. 0 forcefields and 0 templars... yes its boring
njoe
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden26 Posts
June 30 2012 08:10 GMT
#609
Not all SC2 games play out in this horrible fashion, like some seem to suggest. There are amazing SC2 games as well where there is action all over the map. I think a lot of the BW pros don't allow themselves to play more intricate games yet if they don't have to. Heart of the Swarm will open up for a more dynamic metagame imo and I think it is introducing units that will sit well with the BW pros.
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 08:12:25
June 30 2012 08:11 GMT
#610
On June 30 2012 17:02 BgSBendeR wrote:
This is the reason why I kind of hate SC2.
Sit there, max( since it's so easy compare to BW and also the overall speed of the game) . 1 Attack to win the game.
So boring


Well, it doesn't help when players doesn't get their timings/compositions right. But hey, if you want to want to watch multiple engagement all over the map, you should watch GSL/GSTL instead (Sculp vs Symbol on GSTL that aired at the same time was so goooooood).
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densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
June 30 2012 08:11 GMT
#611
On June 30 2012 17:02 BgSBendeR wrote:
This is the reason why I kind of hate SC2.
Sit there, max( since it's so easy compare to BW and also the overall speed of the game) . 1 Attack to win the game.
So boring


I agree with you, but be aware that this only pertains to PL right now. If you watch the GSL/GSTL it is extremely rare to see such games (although a higher ratio occurs in PvZ due to strong 2-base timings). SC2 itself cannot be judged by what is seen in PL, it's actually the skill and knowledge level of the Kespa players that is producing such games.
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 30 2012 08:12 GMT
#612
On June 30 2012 17:10 njoe wrote:
Not all SC2 games play out in this horrible fashion, like some seem to suggest. There are amazing SC2 games as well where there is action all over the map. I think a lot of the BW pros don't allow themselves to play more intricate games yet if they don't have to. Heart of the Swarm will open up for a more dynamic metagame imo and I think it is introducing units that will sit well with the BW pros.


Let's not start this fight. That game was bad and Jaehoon should feel bad.

Sea vs Action was pretty decent until Action threw away his army being stupid. Most other SPL games have been bad.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 30 2012 09:49 GMT
#613
Just saw the results, whoa that must have been legendary. Flash losing to Jaehoon but proceeding to kick his as in the ace. GG :D
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 30 2012 10:13 GMT
#614
I'm curious of whose ZvP is better from today's gams, Crazy-hydra or Effort.
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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 10:22:55
June 30 2012 10:21 GMT
#615
Damn no Jaedong for ace match... tt. I guess T8 knew Flash was gonna be sent out, and so seeing as Jaehoon already beat him it was their best chance.

That last game was boring though. I haven't seen a game play out like that in a long time to be honest. Jaehoon was wayyy too late getting templar tech though.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
June 30 2012 10:43 GMT
#616
Jaedong lost to Stats in BW? I wonder if he even practices anymore :/
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
June 30 2012 11:57 GMT
#617
On June 30 2012 19:21 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Damn no Jaedong for ace match... tt. I guess T8 knew Flash was gonna be sent out, and so seeing as Jaehoon already beat him it was their best chance.

That last game was boring though. I haven't seen a game play out like that in a long time to be honest. Jaehoon was wayyy too late getting templar tech though.

Yeah, Flash played pretty much perfectly (though a passive game, his timing with +3 and max was excellent and no macro mistakes or composition problems whatsoever). Great scouting as well really let him just dominate Jaehoon who just isn't as good at all.

Makes you wonder why Flash even bothered with a proxy rax strategy if Jaehoon is really that weak in a macro game. Jaehoon's micro was really great in their first game, but he doesn't understand tech transitions and solid builds in general while flash has that all down.
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dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
June 30 2012 14:24 GMT
#618
jaehoon Used for Experimentation XD GG
This is the way
BgSBendeR
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada170 Posts
June 30 2012 14:29 GMT
#619
On June 30 2012 16:44 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 16:42 FuRong wrote:
On June 30 2012 16:35 raga4ka wrote:
Is Flash the best at SC2 in KT also ? The coach seems to use him regardless of his performance in SC2 and he has OSL as well .


We can't really know, but it seems that Lizzy has been sent back to the B team for the time being.

Sometimes it just makes sense to send your most clutch player in these key moments.


Has he? I am wondering what happened to him he like isn't played anymore and he went 2-2 so idk seems weird he must not be good anymore or something xD


The reason he was sent back to B-Team is plain and simple. He has no BW and isn't very good in SC2 either.
There's no reason to keep him in A-team. He lost all his BW games and went 2-2 for Sc2 which is kind of bad for someone who only plays sc2.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 14:52:52
June 30 2012 14:51 GMT
#620
jaehoon just rly bad macro. way too late 3rd, no archons or storm on the field so late in the game. his probe production was so low as well.

flash just played solid and showcased his superior macro. no spectacular multidrop or anything.
sadly, PvT on entombed is a 3 base sit back turtle map anyways, dont know why the map is in the pool honestly
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