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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 24 2012 07:59 GMT
#341
On June 24 2012 16:57 blabber wrote:
hero's line of thinking: "oh he's making mutas? i'll make colossus."

right.


Well they're imba, aren't they?! AREN'T THEY?!

Hero[join['s stats come from balance whine threads. I refuse to shorten that name and risk confusion with Liquid'Hero, who's actually good.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#342
On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote:
same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).

Zergs go hardcore muta when they have the chance to, at least they used to do that, protoss has a very hard time dealing with it, current meta is all about infestor play though.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
June 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#343
On June 24 2012 16:58 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:57 Ribbon wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:56 sGs.Stregon wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:54 Ribbon wrote:
Okay, hero[join] is just fucking bad at SC2.


as bad as Flash would you say?


Flash is playing greedy and blind.

Hero is just awful around the board.

Do you think flash of all people would simply "play blind" for no reason?


yes. that's all flash does in bw too. he just has insane game sense (don't want to bother to dig up thread, but there are videos of him just like randomly scanning an area above a cliff and seeing like dropships incoming; some translations of koreans calling him "hacker" or wahtever for his game knowledge). Terran also can take a much more defensive posture in bw.

but he doesn't have as much sc2 sense yet, as well as the design of terran being completely different (and game in general).
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#344
On June 24 2012 16:58 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:57 Ribbon wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:56 sGs.Stregon wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:54 Ribbon wrote:
Okay, hero[join] is just fucking bad at SC2.


as bad as Flash would you say?


Flash is playing greedy and blind.

Hero is just awful around the board.

Do you think flash of all people would simply "play blind" for no reason?


Well....he did, twice, so.....yeah.

He has a reason, I guess, Effort did a good job of distracting with lings (and splitting them to maximize the time Flash spent killing them!), but still. If you go 14CC, you can afford a scan.
sGs.Stregon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States161 Posts
June 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#345
On June 24 2012 16:57 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:56 sGs.Stregon wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:54 Ribbon wrote:
Okay, hero[join] is just fucking bad at SC2.


as bad as Flash would you say?


Flash is playing greedy and blind.

Hero is just awful around the board.


I dont know if you know this or not.. But the current state of TvZ in ScToo is the Terran HAS to play greedy, because they cannot effectivly harass and/or contain Zerg ((because Queen range buff)).. and Terran playing greedy is succeptable to 2 base all ins from zerg, if the zerg doesnt decide to just out greed the Terran and win late game regardless.. What I am saying is the current state of TvZ in ScToo is if your Terran just GG out as soon as the game starts, because every second that passes by, your chances or winning reduce considerably.. ((better all-in with whatever forces you have and all of your scv's by the 10 min mark if you want to win))
Sc:Bw4Life ; 14+ years, aint gunna stop
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 08:02:39
June 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#346
Glad the OP is updating the results for sc2 as well

If you aren't going to do both sets don't make a thread T_T I missed all the games but from what I gather flash played effort and lost as efforts sexy and action won the next game?
When I think of something else, something will go here
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 24 2012 08:03 GMT
#347
On June 24 2012 17:01 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote:
same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).

Zergs go hardcore muta when they have the chance to, at least they used to do that, protoss has a very hard time dealing with it, current meta is all about infestor play though.


Range Phoenixes gigglestomp mutas, but aren't good for much else, so the "proper" response is Psi Storm, unless you already opened stargate.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 08:08:27
June 24 2012 08:04 GMT
#348
On June 24 2012 17:03 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 17:01 IshinShishi wrote:
On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote:
same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).

Zergs go hardcore muta when they have the chance to, at least they used to do that, protoss has a very hard time dealing with it, current meta is all about infestor play though.


Range Phoenixes gigglestomp mutas, but aren't good for much else, so the "proper" response is Psi Storm, unless you already opened stargate.

I consider toss not opening stargate all the chance zerg needs to go mass muta, even against storm.

Btw, Nestea is doing mass muta right now in the IPL5 KR regionals.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
June 24 2012 08:05 GMT
#349
Strange to see no Lizzy or Acacia, looks like the SC2-focus players are getting caught up skill-wise.
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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
June 24 2012 08:05 GMT
#350
On June 24 2012 16:59 Windwaker wrote:
action made the perfect desicion to go for muta in the game, its nearly impossible to defend well enough against muta if you go for such a sentry heavy build

I can see what came across in Browder's mind...

"Let's make Air Force Fields!"
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 24 2012 08:05 GMT
#351
Wooki out for KT
vs
Skyhigh
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 08:06:53
June 24 2012 08:06 GMT
#352
On June 24 2012 17:01 blade55555 wrote:
Glad the OP is updating the results for sc2 as well

If you aren't going to do both sets don't make a thread T_T I missed all the games but from what I gather flash played effort and lost as efforts sexy and action won the next game?

Flash vs EffOrt = Flash dying to roach/ling.bane all in after he went cc first into reactor hellions into 3rd cc into double upgrades (oh flash...)

Next game action went muta/ling off 3 base and herO went stalker/colossus and attempted a half-hearted base trade scenario.
Flash 하나님
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 24 2012 08:06 GMT
#353
Skyhigh vs Protoss hmm i don't know if i like this .
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 24 2012 08:06 GMT
#354
Hey, no mirrors today? Nice.

Surprised to see a Terran on Entombed, though.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 24 2012 08:07 GMT
#355
Skyhigh play like you did in WL finals, please D;
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
June 24 2012 08:08 GMT
#356
I know it's very unfair, but I can't help but compare the quality of the games to the GSL.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
June 24 2012 08:08 GMT
#357
On June 24 2012 17:07 X10A wrote:
Skyhigh play like you did in WL finals, please D;

Or like vs Flash on Fortress...
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 24 2012 08:08 GMT
#358
Skyhigh blue terran 5 oclock
Wooki red toss 11 oclock
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
annedeman
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
June 24 2012 08:08 GMT
#359
On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote:
same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).

its used to be used alot, but it has grown out of style because a archon/2 hts(with awarenes) and enough cannons can practily defend vs any number of mutas and archon ht(also protosses started establishing their thirds alot earlier wich is pretty tough when mutas were out) shits on ling mutas in any direct engaments, so nowadays mutas are used hardcore less often.
RAIN!!!, MMA!!,Innovation!!,Parting!!
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 08:09:17
June 24 2012 08:09 GMT
#360
On June 24 2012 17:06 raga4ka wrote:
Skyhigh vs Protoss hmm i don't know if i like this .

Skyhigh 1-0 Wooki
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