On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote: same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).
Zergs go hardcore muta when they have the chance to, at least they used to do that, protoss has a very hard time dealing with it, current meta is all about infestor play though.
On June 24 2012 16:54 Ribbon wrote: Okay, hero[join] is just fucking bad at SC2.
as bad as Flash would you say?
Flash is playing greedy and blind.
Hero is just awful around the board.
Do you think flash of all people would simply "play blind" for no reason?
yes. that's all flash does in bw too. he just has insane game sense (don't want to bother to dig up thread, but there are videos of him just like randomly scanning an area above a cliff and seeing like dropships incoming; some translations of koreans calling him "hacker" or wahtever for his game knowledge). Terran also can take a much more defensive posture in bw.
but he doesn't have as much sc2 sense yet, as well as the design of terran being completely different (and game in general).
On June 24 2012 16:54 Ribbon wrote: Okay, hero[join] is just fucking bad at SC2.
as bad as Flash would you say?
Flash is playing greedy and blind.
Hero is just awful around the board.
Do you think flash of all people would simply "play blind" for no reason?
Well....he did, twice, so.....yeah.
He has a reason, I guess, Effort did a good job of distracting with lings (and splitting them to maximize the time Flash spent killing them!), but still. If you go 14CC, you can afford a scan.
On June 24 2012 16:54 Ribbon wrote: Okay, hero[join] is just fucking bad at SC2.
as bad as Flash would you say?
Flash is playing greedy and blind.
Hero is just awful around the board.
I dont know if you know this or not.. But the current state of TvZ in ScToo is the Terran HAS to play greedy, because they cannot effectivly harass and/or contain Zerg ((because Queen range buff)).. and Terran playing greedy is succeptable to 2 base all ins from zerg, if the zerg doesnt decide to just out greed the Terran and win late game regardless.. What I am saying is the current state of TvZ in ScToo is if your Terran just GG out as soon as the game starts, because every second that passes by, your chances or winning reduce considerably.. ((better all-in with whatever forces you have and all of your scv's by the 10 min mark if you want to win))
Glad the OP is updating the results for sc2 as well
If you aren't going to do both sets don't make a thread T_T I missed all the games but from what I gather flash played effort and lost as efforts sexy and action won the next game?
On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote: same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).
Zergs go hardcore muta when they have the chance to, at least they used to do that, protoss has a very hard time dealing with it, current meta is all about infestor play though.
Range Phoenixes gigglestomp mutas, but aren't good for much else, so the "proper" response is Psi Storm, unless you already opened stargate.
On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote: same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).
Zergs go hardcore muta when they have the chance to, at least they used to do that, protoss has a very hard time dealing with it, current meta is all about infestor play though.
Range Phoenixes gigglestomp mutas, but aren't good for much else, so the "proper" response is Psi Storm, unless you already opened stargate.
I consider toss not opening stargate all the chance zerg needs to go mass muta, even against storm.
Btw, Nestea is doing mass muta right now in the IPL5 KR regionals.
On June 24 2012 16:59 Windwaker wrote: action made the perfect desicion to go for muta in the game, its nearly impossible to defend well enough against muta if you go for such a sentry heavy build
On June 24 2012 17:01 blade55555 wrote: Glad the OP is updating the results for sc2 as well
If you aren't going to do both sets don't make a thread T_T I missed all the games but from what I gather flash played effort and lost as efforts sexy and action won the next game?
Flash vs EffOrt = Flash dying to roach/ling.bane all in after he went cc first into reactor hellions into 3rd cc into double upgrades (oh flash...)
Next game action went muta/ling off 3 base and herO went stalker/colossus and attempted a half-hearted base trade scenario.
On June 24 2012 16:59 N.geNuity wrote: same thing happened to sun. "mutas? guess I'll go colossus". though I don't think people really go hardcore muta (I think I saw crazymoving do it while ago, in my limited sctoo watching).
its used to be used alot, but it has grown out of style because a archon/2 hts(with awarenes) and enough cannons can practily defend vs any number of mutas and archon ht(also protosses started establishing their thirds alot earlier wich is pretty tough when mutas were out) shits on ling mutas in any direct engaments, so nowadays mutas are used hardcore less often.